Current card ain't bad at all, but it seems like so many of us are afraid of booking shenanigans...

WWE World Heavyweight Championship:
-John Cena (c) vs. Brock Lesnar

WWE Divas Championship:
-AJ Lee (c) vs. Paige

WWE Intercontinental Championship:
-The Miz (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler

Flag Match:
-Jack Swagger vs. Rusev

Lumberjack Match:
-Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose

-Roman Reigns vs. Randy Orton

-Bray Wyatt vs. Chris Jericho (Luke Harper and Erick Rowan are banned from ringside)

-Brie Bella vs. Stephanie McMahon

You have to figure something will get added for the Usos to get on the preshow at least. Dean Ambrose selecting a lumberjack match is bad, but we'll see how it goes. Miz vs Zig is your 'steal the show' match. It would be cool if Reigns really came out of this Orton match looking great. Otherwise, they might REALLY slow-play his rise.

I can't decide whether I'm more afraid of a Cena win or a Brock win where he still can't be bothered to show up and do stuff. Yeah...Cena win.

Jimaveli

which is a crock of shit but whatever

I figured it would have been cage, but perhaps there's a specific idea to it. Maybe HHH will surround the ring with solely heel wrestlers for example(?)

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Apparently he got hurt a few Raws ago. I think it's clear how necessary both the US Title and Sheamus actually are.

the IC and US titles may get a real chance to shine if Brock wins the heavyweight title and it isn't showcased as much as usual?

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Like what WCW was running with in the 90s. A true midcard title defended weekly on TV. Quick, 10-minute time limit matches. It gives every show a meaningful match, frequent title changes would be welcomed, and it would allow them to give longer, better reigns to the bigger titles without worrying about having all of the same champions all the time. It would also give the midcarders like Fandango and Bo something they could legitimately attain, as well as throw some other bigger name guys in the mix (the Sheamuses, Dolphs, etc) to give the title a little bit more legitimacy and the midcarders a rub.

Because really, what IS the difference between the IC and US title? Even when the WWF had the IC and Euro titles, the Euro title was initially a title the was to only be defended in Europe, until it eventually became the lower midcard title.

My ideal world, which would never happen, would be more emphasis on EARNING a World Title shot, with less frequent tile matches (only the big PPVs really). IC title defended every month, TV title defended weekly. Make the bigger title's matches mean something, not just "I pick you to have the next WWE Title shot, and then the 2 PPVs after that where we recycle the same match with diff stipulations and rematch contracts"

I had actually forgotten about the TV title stipulations - you're right, it would make a real exciting addition to Raw.

I guess the US and IC titles made sense when they were each specific to separate shows which isn't really the case any more. I don't really have a problem with the titles co-existing, I just dislike titles not being used - Ambrose wore the US title for like 5 months and never defended it which is pointless. Use them or lose them.

You talk about 'earning' title matches which is a really interesting point - also interesting to note how quickly things happen in wrestling nowadays compared to the 90s. Can you believe Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels were active WWF wrestlers for like 7/8 years before they won their first Heavyweight title?! People are already chomping for Reigns to get the Gold but he's a relative rookie compared to back then. (Not a comment meant with any disrespect at all - just saying with such an increased level of TV programming (plus 12 PPVs a year as opposed to just 4), things happen so much quicker.)

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Between 3 hours of Raw, 2 hours of SmackDown and then Superstars, Main Event, etc... there is between 3 to 5 times as much wrestling every week as there was in the early, mid and late 90s.

You mention Bret and Shawn. How many times in their prime did they fight each other? Twice. WM12 and Survivor Series 97. How many times have we seen Cena and Orton? They fought each other 3 PPVs IN A ROW alone a few years ago.

Here are some things WWE should think about doing:
1) Put the god damn belt on Lesnar and let him walk away for a few months. Lets see the WWE roster try and EARN the opportunity to challenge for the belt. And at the next BIG PPV (Survivor Series), have Brock defend against a WORTHY challenger.
2) Keep this trend up. The World Title doesn't have to be defended every PPV. Defend it at the big ones. Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, Money in the Bank, Summerslam, Survivor Series. Use the rest of the PPVs to throw the champion in tag matches, grudge matches, etc.
3) Have the IC Title be defended monthly at PPVs, then use a TV title for weekly title matches on Raw.
4) EMBRACE part time workers. Guys like Brock fighting 3-5 times a year makes it SPECIAL when they fight, and it prevents repetitive matches being recycled over and over. Summerslam is going to be fun BECAUSE Brock barely fights. We saw Brock/Cena already, a few times, but the most recent time was 2 and a half years ago. It SHOULD be a year minimum between two of the biggest names in the company fighting. Had we already seen Cena/Brock a dozen times nobody would give a shit about the main event next week.
5) And just so there's "something to win" while the World Title is gaining back some prestige and meaning and not being shuffled back and forth and defended in matches where the outcome is predictable, bring back stuff like King of the Ring, have a Euro Cup, shit like that. Hell, do something like TNA did with their Bound for Glory series. Take 10 great technicians, have them fight each other a few times each over the next 6 months, earning points for pinfalls, submissions and losing points for losses, DQs, etc, and at the end crown a tourny champion. All of a sudden you have one of two of these matches every week on Raw and you have a few matches that mean something every week without needing a title belt or prolonged rivalry.
5b) How about a NXT tournamet like the one I described above where the winner gets a spot on the main roster. Have a few of these matches on Raw to showcase the NXT talent along the way.

(IT should be noted that WWE will never do any of these things)

>4) EMBRACE part time workers. Guys like Brock fighting 3-5
>times a year makes it SPECIAL when they fight, and it prevents
>repetitive matches being recycled over and over. Summerslam is
>going to be fun BECAUSE Brock barely fights. We saw Brock/Cena
>already, a few times, but the most recent time was 2 and a
>half years ago. It SHOULD be a year minimum between two of the
>biggest names in the company fighting. Had we already seen
>Cena/Brock a dozen times nobody would give a shit about the
>main event next week.

when Cena was in the process of becoming "Cena", he was feuding with Brock Lesnar. and at the time the idea was that it was supposed to be ridiculous, that a dude so bad he could beat down the Undertaker and be the WWE's own "Goldberg" was so far above a heel like Cena.

even his finisher is derived (on screen) from Lesnar's finisher. they'll never acknowledge that, but it would be cool.

so I'm definitely down with this.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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it's weird. it feels like they mostly have the major storylines booked far in advance (nearly set in stone too far in advance), but on the week-to-week stuff they are completely lost and making shit up on the fly. as a result, half of raw is terrible, smackdown is totally useless, but the PPVs have been pretty good. it's the exact opposite of where i thought they'd be when the network started and they were trying to get a good TV deal. their answer for every problem is to freak out and make immediate changes rather than offer some consistency to see if they can build an audience.

>Here are some things WWE should think about doing:
>1) Put the god damn belt on Lesnar and let him walk away for a
>few months. Lets see the WWE roster try and EARN the
>opportunity to challenge for the belt. And at the next BIG PPV
>(Survivor Series), have Brock defend against a WORTHY
>challenger.
>2) Keep this trend up. The World Title doesn't have to be
>defended every PPV. Defend it at the big ones. Royal Rumble,
>WrestleMania, Money in the Bank, Summerslam, Survivor Series.
>Use the rest of the PPVs to throw the champion in tag matches,
>grudge matches, etc.

Not sure how I feel about this. This would be entertaining, I just think it would be tough to sell PPV tickets/the network if the title isn't being defended regularly.

>3) Have the IC Title be defended monthly at PPVs, then use a
>TV title for weekly title matches on Raw.

great idea. and as someone else said: why do these guys WANT the IC and US title? It always seems like "well, now i'm fighting you i guess."

>4) EMBRACE part time workers. Guys like Brock fighting 3-5
>times a year makes it SPECIAL when they fight, and it prevents
>repetitive matches being recycled over and over. Summerslam is
>going to be fun BECAUSE Brock barely fights. We saw Brock/Cena
>already, a few times, but the most recent time was 2 and a
>half years ago. It SHOULD be a year minimum between two of the
>biggest names in the company fighting. Had we already seen
>Cena/Brock a dozen times nobody would give a shit about the
>main event next week.

agreed. the series of 3 matches btw Lesnar and HHH and Cena/Rock 2 really lost their luster.

>5) And just so there's "something to win" while the World
>Title is gaining back some prestige and meaning and not being
>shuffled back and forth and defended in matches where the
>outcome is predictable, bring back stuff like King of the
>Ring, have a Euro Cup, shit like that. Hell, do something like
>TNA did with their Bound for Glory series. Take 10 great
>technicians, have them fight each other a few times each over
>the next 6 months, earning points for pinfalls, submissions
>and losing points for losses, DQs, etc, and at the end crown a
>tourny champion. All of a sudden you have one of two of these
>matches every week on Raw and you have a few matches that mean
>something every week without needing a title belt or prolonged
>rivalry.
>5b) How about a NXT tournamet like the one I described above
>where the winner gets a spot on the main roster. Have a few of
>these matches on Raw to showcase the NXT talent along the
>way.

great ideas that, as you said, will never happen. not a chance they have the patience for this. but imagine how much hype these could get if they did? of course, if they started this idea and the ratings went down for a second they'd pull the plug.

belt ion the trash...like he was playing basketball...and THEN MONTHS later, duggan found it and started defending it. just stupid

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

and was LOSING every week.


"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

and the need to drum up renewed interest pretty quickly, that they'd dump that belt...

oh and consolidate the wwe/heavyweight straps....

and cut raw back to two hours again...

and get rid of smackdown altogether.

**quality over quantity**

but we can all dream.

i'm not even rolling my eyes at the main event when i feel i normally would be. i'm not particularly looking forward to a lesnar title run or cena keeping it, but i'm excited for the match itself. heyman and cena have put in good promo work to sell this. and lol @ "i'm gonna leave him in a pool of blood and urine and vomit."

oddly enough, i'm least excited for Wyatt/Jericho. I can't really put my finger on why this feud isn't working, but it isn't.

I don't understand why exactly it started in the first place. Bray has lost so much steam between all of those losses to Cena and then cleanly to Jericho that I don't see a reason the roster should be afraid of him. Also, if Jericho already beat him clean with the hillbillies at ringside, what does it matter if they are present or not this time? The whole booking doesn't make sense at all. Let Bray win this match and move on to something else where he can finally look not only strong as the leader of a cult, but as a singles wrestler as well.

sometimes they look unstoppable. sometimes they're completely ineffective. cena and jericho have easily gotten past their influence, yet still look at them like they're the scariest guys in the world (just jump down from the steel cage and land on top of him, cena! you'll win and fuck him up at the same time).

along with reigns and rusev- those are the best things going sooooo

with the Wyatts taking the role of Taker, Bradshaw and Farooq, and Cesaro as an enforcer for Orton's (or even better, Cena's) "Corporate Champ." Have Rollins realize he got in too deep, or that he's just there to run interference on "threats" to Orton, and reunite with the Shield to take down the Wyatts. If Bryan can indeed make it back, he'll probably take the Rumble win. So make it after the Shield screws Cesaro and or Bray out of what looked like a certain win. So then at Elimination Chamber, Reigns wins an EC match, which includes the Shield, Wyatts and Cesaro. THEN, HHH gives Reigns the bump and the bonafides he needs to be "ready" by having a knock-down drag-out match at Wrestlemania, with Rollins/Ambrose in some kind of tag title match, and Bryan making it all the way back to win the title at WM.

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>The whole booking
>doesn't make sense at all.

>i'm not even rolling my eyes at the main event when i feel i
>normally would be. i'm not particularly looking forward to a
>lesnar title run or cena keeping it, but i'm excited for the
>match itself. heyman and cena have put in good promo work to
>sell this. and lol @ "i'm gonna leave him in a pool of blood
>and urine and vomit."

That whole video promo was great, and that Lesner line really capped it off. If it's not on a t-shirt by now, it should be.

>
>oddly enough, i'm least excited for Wyatt/Jericho. I can't
>really put my finger on why this feud isn't working, but it
>isn't.

Yep. That match last PPV didn't help either. I'm disappointed Rowan and Harper don't have a match of their own. I like them with Bray, but they just spent a few months killing it on their own vs. the Usos seemingly every week. I don't want them totally split up, but I'd probably be more excited for a match with them involved than one with Bray at this point. I mean, I'm sure they'll get involved in this one in some way, but obviously that's not the same.

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i thought that was twitter fuckin around but they really did that.

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and the other two top heels are non-wrestlers wasting their gold on brie bella and pumping up brock lesnar.

>and the other two top heels are non-wrestlers wasting their
>gold on brie bella and pumping up brock lesnar.

I'm just sad that none of those dudes could take any kind of bump to get the 'Brock is a total ass' thing across physically. At least they have the heat working the way it is supposed to for now. Aka Cena is the face staring in the face of a huge ass-whooping and Brock is the monster heel with the terrible person as a mouthpiece/manager. The problem is...the monster needs to go over this time. And wwe historically has been terrible with letting this happen to a non-aging face. They need to think rocky 3 here. The part where Rocky gets worked and Micky dies. Not the short shorts and training with the brothers after...

And yeah...steph is at least kinda wasted on Brie. This same story would've been the biz with AJ in her place with Phil as the hurt/gone guy. Any diva could've been her oft-punished homegirl. I can only hope that they've done a steamboat/savage wm3 amount of prep for whatever the hell they are gonna do Sunday!

to show cole something, and cole said "i said that, but the WWE network..." in other words.....i see what's going on in the match...but i gotta push this network" hahah


"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

to the wwe network and watch hogan's birthday party?

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

x-pac takes a shit in someone's food and it's all good.

flair slaps an employee, it's all good


years later:
alberto slaps someone, and he's fired.

times have changed in wrestling haha



"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

-They’re cutting costs.

-They’re doing nothing with him.

Seriously, they're just looking for shit like this right now.

I’m sure we’ll see a few such pink slips in coming months. That place is probably littered with banana peels right now for guys with his lack of position.

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

you can hear a mouse fart in any arena when del rio's making his ring entrance.

but yeah.

I'm trying to get tix as close to the ring as possible...

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My advice if you really want to be sure is to do group sales if you have the money to front for lots of tickets.

I was going with a big group and just did group sales because they do it in advance. You have to buy 20, but it's pretty easy to sell Wrestlemania tickets on stubhub if you're not in it to make a huge profit.

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WWE killed it with this one. I don't own any wrestling-related clothing items, but I kind of really want to buy this ridiculous shirt.

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I see them putting the Shield back together somehow..and yes, with the same three dudes. I could see them having serious cold feet with Reigns right now with him removed from the comfort of having excellent mechanics setting up his spots in those 6-man shows. He's reduced to lame WWE writing (and being too young/green to jazz it up), smush-lip faces, and laying around waiting for the heel or ref to tell him to jump up and do his moves.

Hopefully they don't fuck it up.

>Hopefully they don't fuck it up.

At best. Too bad they don't get that cats like perfect and rude were over when they were bumping and showing ass to get faces over. They are so awesome at cooling people off with squash losses and making them invisible/useless. Too bad they are scared to have someone be 'too over' at the 'wrong time' while wanting us to feel bad about them not having folks to replace Orton, Cena, HHH, Kane, and whatever part-time guy they can get for us.

I think the card is off

Also lol @ Mean Gene getting the other host's names wrong (I won't spoil it)

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why did this guy get the push the first of the year only to turn into this?

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It is very important that WWE be responsible for making stars. Making it on your own with just the support of the fans without WWE telling us you're supposed to be a star is a big no no. WWE needs to keep this image that THEY are the only ones who can make a star, and that it your are a star, you have WWE to thank for it. This will prevent people from thinking they can to anywhere and be just as big.

It's why CM Punk ruffled so many feathers. Why it seemed like they might not even put Bryan over at WM. And why were are force fed guys like Orton and fucking Sheamus while guys like Ziggler and Cesaro continue to get the biggest reactions.