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"Kaep's Pockets STRAIGHT - 6-years, $110M, $60M guaranteed..."


          

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How much Guaranteed?
Jun 04th 2014
1
http://tinyurl.com/krnoz2x
Jun 04th 2014
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LOL
Jun 04th 2014
6
Actually, they're saying $61 million.
Jun 04th 2014
7
RIF
Jun 04th 2014
8
umm the 49ers window begins to close
Jun 04th 2014
2
First, this was the final year of his contract
Jun 04th 2014
5
I forget he came in with Dalton and cam
Jun 04th 2014
12
Actually the above post is a bit harsh cos he is a good QB
Jun 04th 2014
9
      Their defensive studs are mostly locked up for the next few years
Jun 04th 2014
11
           OK
Jun 04th 2014
13
can't wait till the wheels fall off that fucking team
Jun 04th 2014
3
i like you for saying this.
Jun 04th 2014
16
jesus.
Jun 04th 2014
10
Russell Wilson happy.
Jun 04th 2014
14
Seahawks front office happy, you mean.
Jun 04th 2014
17
I figure Wilson will be resetting the guaranteed $ benchmark again
Jun 04th 2014
19
someone will have to correct me if i'm wrong...
Jun 04th 2014
20
      Brady just kicked the cap can down the line
Jun 04th 2014
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           Word.
Jun 04th 2014
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Jun 04th 2014
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There's a new order for Rookie QBs.
Jun 04th 2014
27
Cam somewhere smiling. I wanted an eight year deal but whatever.
Jun 04th 2014
15
Cam will be in the top 2 highest paid qbs in the league
Jun 04th 2014
26
posting like you're 12 again
Jun 04th 2014
28
Post 27
Jun 05th 2014
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"we?" so you're a Browns, Cardinals, *and* 49ers fan?
Jun 05th 2014
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      The Cards play the 9ers nm.
Jun 06th 2014
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The real winner is his rapper image
Jun 04th 2014
18
just getting all kinds of old man britches in bunches
Jun 07th 2014
77
If its 60 million graunteed thats not bad,
Jun 04th 2014
22
wha what?
Jun 04th 2014
30
Hopefully he channel that sign of respect to even more drive
Jun 04th 2014
25
Most guaranteed money in NFL history
Jun 04th 2014
29
I'm A Fan of Kap, But
Jun 04th 2014
31
He essentially has won already, though
Jun 04th 2014
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      RE: He essentially has won already, though
Jun 05th 2014
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           He performed better than Peyton Manning against the same defense
Jun 05th 2014
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           RE: He performed better than Peyton Manning against the same defense
Jun 05th 2014
43
                Kaep didn't shit the bed like Peyton Manning. Cry.
Jun 05th 2014
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                     RE: Kaep didn't shit the bed like Peyton Manning. Cry.
Jun 05th 2014
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                          http://tinyurl.com/msaq2us
Jun 05th 2014
60
           Right now, with Bowman injured, Kaep's the second or third...
Jun 05th 2014
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           Kap accounted for virtually every yard vs Seattle
Jun 05th 2014
65
espn arg this morning over who's 2nd(!?!) best young qb kaep or rw
Jun 05th 2014
35
thinking luck is better than kaepernick is racism?
Jun 05th 2014
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I'm not cosigning that, btw. Luck is a god.
Jun 05th 2014
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i mean, there's cism to be found in ANY discussion of black QBs
Jun 05th 2014
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      True n/m
Jun 05th 2014
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I think theres something to Luck being white and those guys not
Jun 05th 2014
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RE: espn arg this morning over who's 2nd(!?!) best young qb kaep or rw
Jun 05th 2014
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      Kaep is already thousands of times better than Flacco, FOH
Jun 05th 2014
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           RE: Kaep is already thousands of times better than Flacco, FOH
Jun 05th 2014
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                No, your point is pretty bad, in every way.
Jun 05th 2014
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                     RE: No, your point is pretty bad, in every way.
Jun 05th 2014
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                          Nah, Kaep's superiority over Flacco renders your points irrelevant.
Jun 05th 2014
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                               RE: Nah, Kaep's superiority over Flacco renders your points irrelevant.
Jun 05th 2014
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                                    Just a reminder: Colin Kaepernick is better than Joe Flacco.
Jun 05th 2014
59
think of all the douchey outfits he can buy now
Jun 05th 2014
44
The details of this contract are very unique.
Jun 05th 2014
46
If he was white, we'd be lauding him for thinking of his team.
Jun 05th 2014
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all i can think of is, i wouldn't have been this accomodating
Jun 05th 2014
52
right.
Jun 05th 2014
55
Dudes were laughing up top, but thats why grnt'd money counts
Jun 05th 2014
54
Ay. I mean, hooray for the team and all that, but this is ruthless
Jun 05th 2014
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yup
Jun 05th 2014
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yup i take back some of what i said up top
Jun 05th 2014
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Kaep standing behind his word
Jun 05th 2014
63
I pray Russell is this stupid.
Jun 05th 2014
68
It's a pretty bad deal IMO.. but they made it sound GREAT
Jun 06th 2014
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or he really cares about his team's success...
Jun 07th 2014
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Bud Norris just turned over in his grave
Jun 06th 2014
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L
Jun 06th 2014
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That's dope. This guy is obviously about winning nm.
Jun 07th 2014
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Just wanna throw it out there...
Jun 05th 2014
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If he becomes top 3 or best qb in league
Jun 05th 2014
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STRAIGHT?...Real numbers look crooked like King Kong shook it
Jun 07th 2014
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1. "How much Guaranteed?"
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4. "http://tinyurl.com/krnoz2x"
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http://tinyurl.com/krnoz2x

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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6. "LOL"
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7. "Actually, they're saying $61 million."
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8. "RIF"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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2. "umm the 49ers window begins to close"
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Did they have to give him a deal this year, i don't remember hearing any rumblings from his "camp" about needing a new deal?

  

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5. "First, this was the final year of his contract"
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They could have franchised him at the end of the season, but now was the best time to get the deal done.

Second, even with this deal, they're not over the cap.

Third, lol @ "The window closing." Cute.

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12. "I forget he came in with Dalton and cam"
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Im not knocking the move, its the price of doing business in the nfl but whilst being young and mobile is great for this new generation of QBs is great what is less talked about is how little cap they take up n rookie deals allowing teams to build strong rosters. You guys just have to play by the same rules as all the teams with older elite qbs now

  

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9. "Actually the above post is a bit harsh cos he is a good QB"
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but the 49ers have lost their best weapon which was being able to spend 19 and a half mil per year to surround their good QB with quality players. Hopefully for them kaeps good enough to get them over that "disadvantage"

  

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11. "Their defensive studs are mostly locked up for the next few years"
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Guys like Aldon, Bowman, Willis, etc., are signed until like '17 or '18. Guys like Gore are in the final year of their deals and are probably going to retire after this year, giving the team more money. And we've been drafting well, so we've got depth and young options.

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13. "OK"
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3. "can't wait till the wheels fall off that fucking team"
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hope the tension between "mr. intensity" and the brass grows
hope the 2nd half of the NFC chip game is a sign of things to come for Kap now that he's locked in
Hope aldon keeps up his antics and dudes like willis and smith get old as fuck over night or move on
just not feeling this nut ass team

  

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16. "i like you for saying this."
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10. "jesus."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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14. "Russell Wilson happy."
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17. "Seahawks front office happy, you mean."
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Rumors were that Kaep was gonna get more than this, so this "saves" the Seahawks some money. They'll only have to pay Russ a bit more than Kaep got.

Unless Russ really gets saintly on everyone and takes less so that the team can do more. There are SOME poeple (not JUST hopeful Hawks fans, btw) who think he MIGHT do it. Doubtful, but still.

  

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19. "I figure Wilson will be resetting the guaranteed $ benchmark again"
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>Unless Russ really gets saintly on everyone and takes less so
>that the team can do more. There are SOME poeple (not JUST
>hopeful Hawks fans, btw) who think he MIGHT do it. Doubtful,
>but still.

that is both stupid conjecture and selfish fandom (not you, personally). imagine any Seattle fan taking a paycut at work so the company's stock price can improve.

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20. "someone will have to correct me if i'm wrong..."
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but it's Tom Brady's contract structured in a way that is favorable to the Pats. Like, he's a 20M QB but he makes something less.

I think that's along the lines of what people are thinking.

  

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23. "Brady just kicked the cap can down the line"
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it created short-term relief, but he's making more money than he did before that "discount" and will cost a lot more to cut when he's older. Jerry Jones pulls the same move all the time.

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24. "Word."
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It will be interesting.

Hawks could have 5 guys taking 70M of cap space. Gotta play the game though. Fortunately their whole M.O. is finding guys on the cheap to fill in the holes, so they are probably set up better than other teams to pay big contracts to their stars while keeping the level of play pretty consistent across the board.

  

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21. ""
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27. "There's a new order for Rookie QBs."
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21-9 with an Super Bowl appearance and NFC championship game is worth $60 mill guaranteed.

Russell's NFL record for most wins through two seasons and third player in NFL history to throw 50 TD passes in two seasons deserves $80 mill.

Cam is on a different level. RG3 is somewhere else as well. Andrew is at the bottom of the totem pole. He's getting fried at some point.

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15. "Cam somewhere smiling. I wanted an eight year deal but whatever."
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We get to HOE y'all for the foreseeable future with Kaep at the helm.

I expect Peyton Manning for that amount of bread. At least give me Statpadford playing in the D.

Either way this is a W for both haters and supporters everywhere.

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26. "Cam will be in the top 2 highest paid qbs in the league"
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He gonna have to wait until next year though...

A lot of money opens up next year for Carolina. Double trouble will likely be off the roster.

  

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28. "posting like you're 12 again"
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34. "Post 27"
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No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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67. ""we?" so you're a Browns, Cardinals, *and* 49ers fan?"
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*Jews you*

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73. "The Cards play the 9ers nm."
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No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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18. "The real winner is his rapper image"
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He proved that you can act like a young money rapper
and get that white boy money

GOOD

Glad he's in SF, a very liberal city

His steeze wouldn't work with many teams outside
of SF, Oak and the Jets

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77. "just getting all kinds of old man britches in bunches"
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22. "If its 60 million graunteed thats not bad, "
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but if he has a breakout first three seasons the niners will suck very soon.

  

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30. "wha what?"
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25. "Hopefully he channel that sign of respect to even more drive"
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A lot more focus and a (few) super bowl ring.

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29. "Most guaranteed money in NFL history"
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31. "I'm A Fan of Kap, But"
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He's got no excuse not to win now
He's got the talent, the running game, the o-line, and the WR's/TE. He has everything a QB could ever ask for...and now he's PAID

  

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32. "He essentially has won already, though"
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>He's got no excuse not to win now
>He's got the talent, the running game, the o-line, and the
>WR's/TE. He has everything a QB could ever ask for...and now
>he's PAID

He's a blown PI call and a great play by a hall of fame corner away

You can't really ask for much if any more

  

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33. "RE: He essentially has won already, though"
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>>He's got no excuse not to win now
>>He's got the talent, the running game, the o-line, and the
>>WR's/TE. He has everything a QB could ever ask for...and now
>>he's PAID
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>He's a blown PI call and a great play by a hall of fame corner
>away
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>You can't really ask for much if any more


Problem is, for the most part, he is not viewed as primarily responsible for the team's success.

Even many Niner fans think he has a lot of developing to do as a QB.


So at a certain point that rabbit's feet and horseshoes shit starts to be blamed on you...or the coach. It's definitely not the defense, or Gore, or Davis...Bolden and Crabtree are not superstars...the oline is pretty good...this type of money means Kaep has to play at a level that puts him beyond reproach.

Or win a title.

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37. "He performed better than Peyton Manning against the same defense"
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ON THE ROAD

NO PLEA COPS, SORRY

He's already thousands of times better than guys like
matt ryan and jay culter

And he's many years younger

So I'm not really sure Wtf everyone is talking about

He's on pace to probably be the best in the game

He was a great play away

  

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43. "RE: He performed better than Peyton Manning against the same defense"
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You addressed nothing I said, as expected.


As long as Kaepernick is viewed as a good player on a great team, they need to win or he is INCREASINGLY going to get blamed. Peyton doesn't get blamed because people look at him as the best player on the team and maybe at his position ever.

It is what it is.


LOL @ Jay Cutler. The fuck does he have to do with anything? I mean, most people around the NFL look at him as Jeff George 2.0, why is he even part of this convo? I have never even heard his name brought up as an elite QB and 50% of Bears fans hate him.




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50. "Kaep didn't shit the bed like Peyton Manning. Cry. "
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He good

Cry crybaby crryyyyy

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56. "RE: Kaep didn't shit the bed like Peyton Manning. Cry. "
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Going full retard huh?

I'll leave you to it

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60. "http://tinyurl.com/msaq2us"
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http://tinyurl.com/msaq2us

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61. "Right now, with Bowman injured, Kaep's the second or third..."
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...best player on the roster. I'd put Aldon and Willis ahead of him in terms of talent, and even Willis is closer than many of us would like to admit to getting to the point where he's losing a step. Gore is getting RB old and will probably retire after this season. Eric Reid has tremendous talent and upside, but I can't say he's better than Kaep. Vernon Davis is a beast, but I wouldn't put him ahead of Kaep right now either.

And yeah, I recognize that Kaep still needs to turn the corner from being a great young QB to being one of the best in the league. But while he may be prone to a few mistakes, he's consistently put us in a good position to win, even when we don't pull it out.

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65. "Kap accounted for virtually every yard vs Seattle"
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In the nfc title game.

Gore was 11 carries for 14 yards

  

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35. "espn arg this morning over who's 2nd(!?!) best young qb kaep or rw"
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made me wanna crash my car...

They were like CLEARLY Luck is #1 then #2 is tough between kaep and rw

People pretend that Luck has really been better then Kaep, it's amazing to me...

Moments like that are why OE will always have something to talk about, how can that be anything but some sort of racism, blatant or subconscious.

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36. "thinking luck is better than kaepernick is racism?"
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th'fuuck?

y'all use that word too freely.

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39. "I'm not cosigning that, btw. Luck is a god. "
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I will say that Montana talking shit about Kaep not being
complete and all that was racism...Montana still mad his
son had to transfer after losing the QB job to that Africana

Kaep, as a POCKET PASSER, is better than many, many, many
white hall of famers at the same stage...and that's THROWING

So racism is there....and make no mistake, white people will
be holding onto Luck even stronger because he's essentially
the only elite young QB that's white...its Russ, Kaep, Cam,
RG, etc after that.

There's a reason QB has been the slowest to integrate:
white people don't want to let go of that iron grip...
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40. "i mean, there's cism to be found in ANY discussion of black QBs"
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but merely believing that andrew luck's a better football player than colin kaep isn't evidence of it.

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42. "True n/m"
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62. "I think theres something to Luck being white and those guys not"
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absolutely... Maybe it's more Kaep's "style" but the fact that Luck has been crowned king so fast is odd, I don't even think it's intentional "let's pick the white guy"


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38. "RE: espn arg this morning over who's 2nd(!?!) best young qb kaep or rw"
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Yeah, I dunno, it's definitely debateable. For the simple fact that Luck is probably the best player on his team right today. One could make the argument Kaep is barely in the top 5 on his team.


Kaep is standing where Joe Flacco was before that last Ravens title. The perception is that the team around him is a SB team, and now he has Flacco money but no ring.

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41. "Kaep is already thousands of times better than Flacco, FOH"
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Like, thousands




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45. "RE: Kaep is already thousands of times better than Flacco, FOH"
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Reading comprehension.


Seriously.


Like Flacco prior to his SB, Kaepernick is on what people perceive to be an elite team, SB ready, with a respected coaching staff.

Like Flacco, he was one pass/catch away from going to a SB but it did not happen.

Like Flacco, PRIOR TO HIS SB, fans and media alike began to question whether the QB was good enough to get them a title.



Flacco's position then is analogous to where Kaepernick stands right now in the eyes of league observers and even some of his own teams fans. Everyone thinks he CAN take that next step, but not everyone is convinced he WILL.


Personally, not a big fan of either guy but if you can read, you will see what what I am talking about has nothing to do with their talent, and everything to do with expectations.

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47. "No, your point is pretty bad, in every way. "
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Kaep is better, more important, more integral to his
team's succes, less dispensible than Flacco at any point in his career

Like, by a mile

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48. "RE: No, your point is pretty bad, in every way. "
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>
>Kaep is better, more important, more integral to his
>team's succes, less dispensible than Flacco at any point in
>his career
>
>Like, by a mile

A) He might be better but I am not really convinced that any yawning gulf exists. I'd love to see you cite stats, logic, anything but of course, that will not happen

B) Kaepernick took over for the vaunted Alex Smith and did slightly better statistically. The Niners arguably have had the most complete team in the league during his tenure as starter. They have one division title, and lost a superbowl to Flacco and a NFCCG to Russell Wilson. I have a hard time believing that if you replaced Kaepernick with Flacco this team falls off "by a mile". Nope. A weaker version of this team was in the NFCCG two years ago with Alex Smith at QB.

C) None of this addresses the point at all, which is as follows:

COLIN KAEPERNICK IS NOT VIEWED AS THE PRIMARY ARCHITECT OF HIS TEAM'S SUCCESS. THEREFORE, UNTIL HE WINS A SB OR PUTS UP UNIMPEACHABLE NUMBERS, HE WILL GET TEH SAME QUESTIONS FLACCO WAS GETTING.

Any level of reading comprehension makes it obvious that whether Kaep is 100 miles better than Flacco or not, would not affect the accuracy of that statement.






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49. "Nah, Kaep's superiority over Flacco renders your points irrelevant. "
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Sorry.


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53. "RE: Nah, Kaep's superiority over Flacco renders your points irrelevant. "
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>
>Sorry.
>


No worries. My own fault for engaging someone who has proven they know little about pro football but will speak about it authoritatively anyway.

Carry on.

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59. "Just a reminder: Colin Kaepernick is better than Joe Flacco. "
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Mad?


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44. "think of all the douchey outfits he can buy now"
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SF just did a terrible disservice to the cause of men's fashion

  

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46. "The details of this contract are very unique."
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Quote (also, lol @ the Ravens accusing someone else of over-paying for a QB):

http://deadspin.com/colin-kaepernicks-126-million-contract-is-remarkably-1586520353

Pro Football Talk has the contract language (link), and it's a unique deal in two ways. First, since the initial five years are guaranteed for injury only, the Niners can cut Kaepernick at any time and not owe him a thing—it's pay-as-you-go. Second, instead of bonuses, the deal contains a de-escalator clause that requires Kaepernick to be wildly successful, or his payout drops each year.

Kaepernick's signing bonus is a relatively small $12.3 million. Spread out over the life of the deal, that's just $2 million a year in guaranteed cap hit. "Part of the way the contract is written," Kaepernick said, "was so would be able to sign other players." Fine. That's standard.

The non-guarantees aren't. With his base salary going up every year (From 2015 on: $12.4M, $13.9M, $16.5M, $17M, $18.8M), Kaepernick is relatively cheap early on. And if he becomes ineffective—or just too expensive—the Niners can cut him at any time and be off the hook. Jason La Canfora has a good way to look at the deal from San Francisco's perspective:

Jason La Canfora ✔ @JasonLaCanfora
Kaepernick's deal includes de-escalators that could reduce max worth from $126M-$114M. Deal could be looked at as 2yrs/$28m, pay as you go


Jason La Canfora ✔ @JasonLaCanfora
Deal has record $61M injury guarantees, but would be worth $44M/3yrs; $63M/4yrs; $82M/5yrs. 5yr avg in total $ is $16.4M='14 franchise tag


That's much less that the effective salary for, say, Joe Flacco, even though the Ravens are touting Kaepernick's ascension on an arbitrary "most overpaid list."

If Kaepernick does get hurt, his money through 2018 is guaranteed for injury. The Niners thought of that too. The contract requires Kaepernick to buy his own insurance policy that will pay the 49ers $20 million after-tax in the case of a career-ending injury.

  

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51. "If he was white, we'd be lauding him for thinking of his team. "
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Clearly this is structured to not fuck his TEAM


I'm tired of racist double-standards


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52. "all i can think of is, i wouldn't have been this accomodating"
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i play football? oh, give me the money up front. none of this "injured but not guarantee." pay me.

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55. "right."
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I won't be surprised if the NFLPA challenges the contract.

Football players have so little guaranteed money to begin with.

  

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54. "Dudes were laughing up top, but thats why grnt'd money counts"
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Niners paid him market value laden with incentives.

better hope he doesn't tear an ACL, because niners will be back to the drawing board

  

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57. "Ay. I mean, hooray for the team and all that, but this is ruthless"
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With all the de-escalations based on not meeting performance incentives, this sounds like some Ricky Williams redux shit.

The Niners sorta did something like this before with the Justin Smith extension last off-season, but this is some other level shit. That guy is a veteran towards the end of his career, this is the present and future of the franchise.

And, yeah, if I'm Kaep, I really doubt I'd be this accommodating. I mean, if he develops like everyone expects him to and completely turns the corner to become the best QB in the league, then he'll be taken care of, but man that's a whole lot to gamble.

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58. "yup"
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64. "yup i take back some of what i said up top"
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Cos when a team has the option of cutting you with no cap penalties they hold all the cards in being able to reduce his wage later on. I sort of can respect banking on your own talent but if i was managed by Kaeps agent i'd be looking for new representation. Agents are there to be the buffer between teams guilt tripping you into taking bad deals.

  

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63. "Kaep standing behind his word"
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He said after the 49ers got eliminated that he wanted to get paid but he didn't want to hamstring the team with his deal. I didn't think he would actually do it though.

  

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68. "I pray Russell is this stupid."
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If so, we'll be in a great place financially as a team.

Kaep is either real dumb, too nice or needs to fire his agent.

  

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70. "It's a pretty bad deal IMO.. but they made it sound GREAT"
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also remember he is a running QB and the chances of getting injured are a little higher than most.

He is still getting paid but it's all about that guaranteed money and from the looks of it. There isn't much when it comes to TRUE guaranteed money.


..and Russel Wilson just divorced his wife. Clearly he isn't stupid.


  

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76. "or he really cares about his team's success..."
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but of course that option isn't available

  

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71. "Bud Norris just turned over in his grave "
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72. "L"
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75. "That's dope. This guy is obviously about winning nm."
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66. "Just wanna throw it out there..."
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I am the OG kap agenda driver. 49er fan first, agenda second...but kap conveniently places me in a position where doing one is doing the other

It's astonishingly mad making how this dude is navigating his career. 9 times out of 10, to criticize him is to throw context out of the window.

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69. "If he becomes top 3 or best qb in league"
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in 2-3 years, he is going to want to restructure.

Since it gives them opportunity to pay others
and their not strapped for cash, as a Saints fan, I don't like.

More teams should look at this deal though (and the Revis Bucs deal)
moving forward in regards to star players.

49er fans, is Lattimore gonna play this season? He on field yet?
If so, does he look good? I'm rooting for that guy.

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74. "STRAIGHT?...Real numbers look crooked like King Kong shook it"
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