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"Chicago White Sox 2014"
Sat Mar-29-14 09:04 AM by Deebot

          

Once we're out of the race by June, I'll be watching the games just to see if Abreu and Garcia develop throughout the season.

It's Walnuts' last season....that's really sad.

Our rotation looks god awful. I'm not mad about signing Quintana, but in no universe is he good enough to be a #2 starter. And he is for us....yikes. John Danks is still with the team, let's see if he has anything left.

Our bullpen looks god awful. Nate Jones excels at throwing 97 mph fastballs right down the heart of the plate, and he's our closer. Pretty much goes downhill from there.

We're going to score a few more runs this year, and we'll give up 10x that amount.

Go Sox!

  

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Opening day: 2 hits each for Abreu/Garcia
Apr 01st 2014
1
That abreau hit was a fucking bullet
Apr 01st 2014
2
      You a White Sox fan?
Apr 02nd 2014
3
           South Side till I die
Apr 02nd 2014
8
           there were nann reason to post last year
Apr 02nd 2014
9
                Hawk get so mf'n mad
Apr 02nd 2014
10
RE: Chicago White Sox 2014
Apr 02nd 2014
4
We are undefeated
Apr 02nd 2014
5
The Most Interesting AL Rebuilder: Chicago White Sox (fangraphs link)
Apr 02nd 2014
6
Nice read
Apr 02nd 2014
7
This is what happens when GMs ignore the bullpen
Apr 03rd 2014
11
I'm going to stop paying attention to games after the 6th inning
Apr 04th 2014
12
      No, our bullpen sucks. Trust me, we'll rank near the bottom
Apr 04th 2014
13
KEEP IT UP TYLER
Apr 07th 2014
14
Lol....worst catcher in baseball
Apr 07th 2014
15
These two are special
Apr 08th 2014
16
Garcia out for season
Apr 10th 2014
17
Fuck the world
Apr 10th 2014
18
      bummer-
Apr 10th 2014
19
Apr 12th 2014
20
Yeah I watched the game...he clearly just muscled it out
Apr 13th 2014
21
gotdammit our bullpen is sorry
Apr 13th 2014
22
rigotdamdiculous.
Apr 13th 2014
23
CHILL FAM, MISSILE GOT THIS
Apr 13th 2014
24
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAARDDDDD
Apr 13th 2014
25
      we missed put on an epic ALLLLLEXEEEEEI call
Apr 13th 2014
26
      excellent prelude to the bulls game
Apr 13th 2014
27
      most annoying announcer in sports?
Apr 26th 2014
36
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1888723_10152821...
Apr 13th 2014
28
none of you jokers told me we had landed Kenny Powers in the offseason
Apr 15th 2014
29
Red Sox burn 4 of our relievers in 1 inning
Apr 17th 2014
30
I'm going to stop watching after the 6th
Apr 17th 2014
31
nice grantland piece.
Apr 22nd 2014
32
Yeah, I mean even though it's frustrating as fuck as a fan
Apr 24th 2014
34
MARCUS SEMIEN, BITCHES.
Apr 23rd 2014
33
Hawk gave a triple "YES!" after that Abreu walk off
Apr 26th 2014
35
Scott Carroll Will Endorse ANYTHING!
Apr 28th 2014
37
He's back
Jun 04th 2014
38
It's June 7, and Sale just gave up his first hit to a LH hitter
Jun 07th 2014
39
trade Sale to the Jays lol
Jun 07th 2014
40
Aaaand I jinxed him BAD
Jun 08th 2014
41
touching verlander up.
Jun 11th 2014
42
oh we are lighting it up tonight
Jun 11th 2014
43
REJOICE! We finally ditched Gordy Cakes!
Aug 21st 2014
44
LOL
Aug 22nd 2014
45
      motherfucker is Adam Dunn without the walks and homers
Aug 24th 2014
46
Paul Konerko ready to put the game aside (link)
Aug 28th 2014
47
He lives like a half-hour from the White Sox spring training site
Aug 28th 2014
48
De Aza to B More
Aug 30th 2014
49
Dunn to Oakland
Aug 31st 2014
50
Nolan Sanburn is a pretty good get for an August trade
Aug 31st 2014
51
good to hear, thanks
Sep 01st 2014
53
Good Riddance
Aug 31st 2014
52
Paul Konerko confident he’ll play in season’s final series
Sep 07th 2014
54

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1. "Opening day: 2 hits each for Abreu/Garcia"
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2. "That abreau hit was a fucking bullet "
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He hit that shit like it was going 30 mph

  

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3. "You a White Sox fan?"
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Will you keep me company in this joint throughout the year? It gets pretty lonely.

  

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8. "South Side till I die"
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I will try to peek in now and then

  

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9. "there were nann reason to post last year"
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save the occasional hawk make'em mad special...
that comedy of errors of a season was way too depressing to keep track of

that said, I'm irrationally optimistic right now. we won a series, BITCHES.

  

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10. "Hawk get so mf'n mad"
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I used to wait till the 9th of games just to watch that 20 minutes of him flaming off.

  

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4. "RE: Chicago White Sox 2014"
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I feel like it is going to be a long, frustrating year on the Southside.

Outside of Sale, I don't know what to expect from the pitching staff which was one of the few highlights of last year.
Since everyone underachieved at the plate last year, I want to have low expectations. But I'm an optimist and I'm hoping that last year was a down year for Ramirez and Beckham. And I hope that De Aza and Viciedo were just young and they improve after a full season under their belts.

If they win close to 80 games this year and compete for third in the division, it will be a successful year in my book as I consider this to be a rebuilding year.

  

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5. "We are undefeated"
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6. "The Most Interesting AL Rebuilder: Chicago White Sox (fangraphs link)"
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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-most-interesting-al-rebuilder-chicago-white-sox/

  

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7. "Nice read"
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11. "This is what happens when GMs ignore the bullpen"
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Today is a true indicator of how most of our season will go. Jones and Lindstrom are worthless garbage, ditto for everyone else.

  

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12. "I'm going to stop paying attention to games after the 6th inning"
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Yesterday's game was painful to listen to. Last year our hitting was horrible. Hopefully our bullpen just had a bad day because it was cold.
But if the Twins can come back on us, then anyone can.

  

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13. "No, our bullpen sucks. Trust me, we'll rank near the bottom"
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statistically.

  

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14. "KEEP IT UP TYLER"
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*knows tyler won't keep it up*

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15. "Lol....worst catcher in baseball"
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16. "These two are special"
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Amazing game tonight.

  

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17. "Garcia out for season"
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-avisail-garcia-out-for-season-20140410,0,1770403.story

One of the few bright spots for 2014 is done for the year.
De Aza has started off well so they can move him to right and have Viciedo play left.

  

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18. "Fuck the world"
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19. "bummer-"
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20. ""
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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jose-abreus-first-and-worst/

  

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21. "Yeah I watched the game...he clearly just muscled it out"
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But his other home runs? Not cheap at all.

  

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22. "gotdammit our bullpen is sorry"
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23. "rigotdamdiculous."
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24. "CHILL FAM, MISSILE GOT THIS"
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25. "YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAARDDDDD"
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26. "we missed put on an epic ALLLLLEXEEEEEI call"
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w/hawk being out of commission

but fuck yes, missile is on a mission this year

  

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27. "excellent prelude to the bulls game"
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36. "most annoying announcer in sports?"
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i think so

  

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28. "https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1888723_10152821..."
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https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1888723_10152821287493298_4777790909779165887_n.jpg

  

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29. "none of you jokers told me we had landed Kenny Powers in the offseason"
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/IMG_1666a_Scott_Downs.jpg

  

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30. "Red Sox burn 4 of our relievers in 1 inning"
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and we waste Alexei's new heroics

WAY TO GO WHITE SOX BULLPEN. Leury Garcia outpitched y'all.

  

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31. "I'm going to stop watching after the 6th"
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This bullpen is even worse than expected. The Red Sox didn't even have to swing the bat. They just let our bullpen walk everyone.

  

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32. "nice grantland piece."
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http://grantland.com/the-triangle/white-sox-historic-offensive-improvement-jose-abreu-adam-eaton/

No Pale Imitation: How Jose Abreu, Adam Eaton, and a Savvy GM Have Revived the White Sox Offense
by JONAH KERI

Heading into the bottom of the eighth inning of Sundays game against the Indians, the White Sox were on the verge of something theyd hardly done all season: fail to score runs.

On a long, damp, dreary afternoon that had already brought two rain delays totaling two hours, and with Cleveland starter Corey Kluber still toeing the rubber, the White Sox and Indians were locked in a 1-1 tie. Only once in the 12 prior games had the Pale Hose scored so few runs in a game, and only twice to that point had they scored three or fewer. The Sox were the highest-scoring team in baseball, and such offensive ineptitude seemed unlikely to last.

Turns out, it didnt. With one out in the eighth, rookie second baseman Marcus Semien worked the count full, got a fastball middle-in and launched a laser that soared over the left-field wall and landed seven rows deep in the bleachers to put the Sox up, 2-1. Closer Matt Lindstrom blew the game to put the Sox behind again, 3-2, but they werent finished. Jordan Danks led off with a walk, then promptly stole second. Alejandro De Aza fouled out, bringing Alexei Ramirez to the plate. The first pitch from Indians closer John Axford was a fastball up and also middle-in, and this is what happened:

http://m.mlb.com/video/v32070069/must-c-clutch-ramirez-walks-off-on-the-indians

Ramirezs game-winning, two-run bomb improved Chicagos record to 7-6, an impressive start following the teams disastrous 99-loss 2013 campaign. After beating the Red Sox on Tuesday night in an uncharacteristically low-scoring affair, the White Sox are now 8-6. More amazingly, Ramirezs walk-off blast helped sustain the clubs early run for the record books. While were only 14 games into the season, and while plenty of wacky things can happen over such a small sample of games, its still impossible to ignore that the 2014 White Sox currently have the most improved year-over-year offense in modern MLB history.

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One of the best ways to measure offense is with a stat called Weighted Runs Created Plus, or wRC+. Though the name sounds complicated, the formula is simple: Take every outcome generated by a batter (singles, doubles, triples, homers, walks, etc.), then adjust for park effects to ensure that the hitter toiling at Petco Park gets a fair shake compared to the batter getting fat off Coors Field. After making that adjustment, compare the team or player result to league average. One hundred is an average score, 110 is 10 percent better than average, 90 is 10 percent worse than average, and so on.

The 2014 White Sox currently lead the majors with a wRC+ of 125, meaning their offense has been 25 percent better than league average. Last year, the Sox posted an 83 wRC+, the second-worst in the majors, ahead of only the woeful Marlins. That swing represents the biggest year-over-year improvement by any MLB team since 1900:

This data comes from FanGraphs and includes pitchers hitting stats. The presence of the 2014 Nats and 2014 Yankees further demonstrates the aberrant results that can show up when dealing with small sample sizes. But small sample or not, few could have foreseen the White Sox hitting this well this soon after last seasons woes.

When Rick Hahn succeeded Kenny Williams as the teams general manager in October 2012, Hahn inherited a team that was simultaneously successful and primed for collapse. The Sox won 85 games in 2012, finishing just three games behind the division-winning Tigers while posting a better run differential than Detroit thanks in part to the 10th-best offense in the majors. That season, however, was the last gasp of success for several White Sox veterans. Catcher A.J. Pierzynski, 35 at the time, posted the best numbers of his career in 2012, setting career highs with 27 homers and a .501 slugging percentage. He took the free-agent route in 2013, hitting 10 fewer homers and losing .076 off his slugging mark, while his White Sox replacement, Tyler Flowers, hit .195. Paul Konerko, then 36, fought against the dying light in 2012, hitting .298/.371/.486 and making his sixth All-Star Game; in 2013, he hit just .244/.313/.355 with 12 home runs, making him one of the least productive first basemen in the game.

Their departures and declines marked the end of an era for a franchise that had leaned heavily on veterans like Jim Thome, Jermaine Dye, Pierzynski, and everyones favorite, Paulie, for years. Hahn knew that winning 85 games on the backs of last-gasp thirtysomethings as the Sox did in 2012 wasnt a sustainable model, and that hed need to alter the approach in order to return the team to the form that led to the 2005 World Series crown. Unfortunately, the all-in approach Hahns predecessors favored, plus years of poor drafts, had produced Baseball Americas no. 29 farm system entering 2013.

Telegraphing his intention to be patient and treat 2013 as a wait-and-evaluate season, Hahn resisted the urge to make any major acquisitions during his first hot stove season as GM. As a result, the White Sox didnt have anywhere near enough talent to compete for a playoff spot last season. So instead of adding, Hahn started subtracting. The White Sox sent Jake Peavy to the Red Sox as part of a three-way deal on July 30, netting a package led by talented but raw outfielder Avisail Garcia in return. Ten days later, the White Sox shipped Alex Rios to the Rangers for B-level prospect Leury Garcia. Though Hahn hoped to strike gold with both Garcias, ditching millions in salary while clearing roster space for younger talent was key in both trades.

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With that year of evaluation in the books, Hahn struck with three offseason moves.

First, he reeled in Cuban slugger Jose Abreu, sending shockwaves through the industry. When a high-profile free agent goes up for bid, few expect the White Sox to emerge as leading contenders, but in this case, the stars aligned perfectly. Typical big-revenue bidders like the Dodgers (Adrian Gonzalez), Red Sox (David Ortiz, and a desire to re-sign Mike Napoli), and Yankees (Mark Teixeira, and a desire to keep the DH spot open and flexible) didnt have holes at Abreus position. Plus, Abreu was considered a boom-or-bust commodity. Some saw the immense power and ludicrously gaudy numbers he displayed in Cuba and projected immediate stardom; others saw a huge man with slow feet, limited defense, and a long swing, and wondered if we might be witnessing the second coming of Steve Bye Bye Balboni. Hahn took the plunge anyway, figuring that a six-year, $68 million contract would represent a fair purchase by todays standards if Abreu wound up being a decent power hitter who could stay healthy, and a total steal if he wound up replicating anything close to the video-game numbers hed managed while playing back home.

With Abreu locked up, the Sox hit the trade market. On December 10, they snagged 25-year-old center fielder Adam Eaton from the Diamondbacks in a three-team deal. Six days later, they hooked up with the D-backs for another trade, picking up third baseman Matt Davidson, now 23. Neither Eaton nor Davidson were sure things. Eaton was a former 19th-round selection who hadnt always been a scouts favorite and whod struggled with injuries, including an elbow sprain that cost him 89 games in 2013. Davidson came with a better pedigree as a sandwich-round pick in 2009, but he was a below-average runner and defender with little speed. Still, Hahn couldnt pass up the chance to acquire them both.

In Eaton, the Sox were getting a young, athletic center fielder who possessed a good batting eye, excellent speed, and superior defensive skills and also offered five years of team control. Davidson, meanwhile, was pegged as a big power prospect who could smash enough balls out of the yard to more than make up for the holes in his game. For a team that needed to completely overhaul its lineup, these were chances well worth taking. And considering the Sox only had to give up a back-of-the-rotation starter with command issues in Hector Santiago, a minor prospect in Brandon Jacobs, and a decent-but-not-great closer in Addison Reed, Hahn had to pull the trigger.

The results so far have been nothing short of spectacular. Eaton has looked like the perfect leadoff man, hitting .321/.418/.464 with identical strikeout and walk rates, a great sign for a burgeoning OBP hound. Hes also flashed the leather, giving the White Sox a double defensive boost by pushing De Aza to a corner spot, thus effectively giving the club two starting center fielders. Meanwhile, Abreu has crushed balls so far that nearby blimp pilots have to be getting nervous; his two-homer performance against the Indians marked the second time in three games that hed gone deep twice in one night. Davidson began the season in Triple-A and is scuffling a bit, but Eaton and Abreu have more than made up for that. Their performances, coupled with hot starts for Ramirez, Flowers, Conor Gillaspie, Adam Dunn, and Dayan Viciedo, have the White Sox off to a world-beating offensive start.

http://m.mlb.com/video/v32056581/clecws-eaton-slides-to-make-a-catch-in-center/?c_id=mlb

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Now, for the caveats. Ramirez, the hottest Sox hitter of all, has flashed a line of .415/.466/.660 this year. Its theoretically possible that after six years of mediocre offensive results, Ramirez has suddenly become Rogers Hornsby at age 32. But the smart money is on this being a gigantic fluke; Ramirezs walk-off homer on Sunday ran his line for the afternoon to four first-pitch swings in four at-bats, an approach any Little League coach could neutralize before long. Gillaspie hitting .311 all year and Flowers managing a .600 batting average on balls in play are about as likely as Hawk Harrelson extolling the virtues of wRC+ on a Sox broadcast this season. And those three arent the only Chicago players likely to come down to earth.

The harsh reality is that this White Sox offense probably wont resemble the 1927 Yankees unit for much longer. The bullpen will also probably blow a bunch more leads, because Hahn wisely recognized that dumping tens of millions of dollars into relief pitching is rarely a good idea, and is damn near pointless for a team thats still rebuilding.

Still, for the first time in a while, Sox fans can start getting excited. Even if the offense cools, theres a good chance the team has found its top-of-the-order catalyst and middle-of-the-order masher for the next half-decade in Eaton and Abreu, respectively. The Sox have one of the best pitchers alive signed to one of the best contracts in the game in Chris Sale. Theres some more intriguing young talent already on the major league roster in Semien and pitchers Jose Quintana and Erik Johnson. Garcia may be injured this season, but hes only 22, and he looked fantastic before hurting his shoulder. And the farm systems starting to look better, with a combination of promising late-round picks and a couple of high-upside trade acquisitions offering hope for 2015 and beyond.

When it comes to the future of South Side baseball, you can look up, put it on the board, and, YE-ESSS, enjoy this offensive explosion for as long as it lasts.

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34. "Yeah, I mean even though it's frustrating as fuck as a fan"
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to watch your bullpen implode every game, I also agree that it doesn't make sense to spend money on relievers for a team that obviously won't make the 'offs this year. I just hope we have a couple guys in the pipeline who could step up soon (I admittedly don't follow our farm that closely).

  

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33. "MARCUS SEMIEN, BITCHES."
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35. "Hawk gave a triple "YES!" after that Abreu walk off"
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It's rare to get a triple....he really likes this guy.

  

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37. "Scott Carroll Will Endorse ANYTHING!"
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38. "He's back"
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39. "It's June 7, and Sale just gave up his first hit to a LH hitter"
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40. "trade Sale to the Jays lol"
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41. "Aaaand I jinxed him BAD"
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42. "touching verlander up."
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43. "oh we are lighting it up tonight "
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that Dunn bloop single after the bitchass intentional walk on Abreu was hilarious

  

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44. "REJOICE! We finally ditched Gordy Cakes!"
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Farewell man, we'll surely miss your .220 average

  

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45. "LOL"
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>Farewell man, we'll surely miss your .220 average

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46. "motherfucker is Adam Dunn without the walks and homers"
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47. "Paul Konerko ready to put the game aside (link)"
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In less than five weeks, it will be over for Paul Konerko, and the ­timing will be perfect.

Konerko will play his last game Sept. 28, when the Sox close the season at home against the Kansas City Royals, and when it’s over, the team captain and franchise’s No. 2 home-run hitter and RBI guy won’t have anything to do with baseball for a good, long while. Maybe never, depending on how his next venture in life — whatever that might be besides being a husband and father of three — goes for him.

“The times of baseball dominating my life are over,’’ said Konerko, 38, whose life has been dominated by the game since he was 12.

Konerko is ready for that.

“I love the game,’’ he said. “ doesn’t come from a place of bitterness. I just want to do other things, try to do other things. Who knows? I could be good at something else. I don’t know, so I’ll try.’’

Konerko isn’t saying what that might be, but he knows it won’t be baseball-related. He and wife ­Jennifer have children who will be 3, 6 and 9 this fall.

Even down the road, he doesn’t foresee coaching beyond coaching his kids.

“I reserve the right to change my mind, but I have three kids, and I’m not going to do anything for selfish reasons,’’ he said. “Even if I felt like I wanted to come back, it’s not going to happen if it takes me away from my kids. It’s not going to happen.’’

Because of his role in his last season as a designated hitter against left-handers and pinch hitter, Konerko spent more time than ever on the bench. From there, he sat back and observed, and it has been an eye-opening experience.

“You understand what a lot of players go through, the bench guys, the bullpen guys who make teams go,’’ Konerko said. “You don’t pay attention to that stuff when you’re playing every day. I learned a lot in that regard.

“When you’re a first baseman, you’re in a bubble. You show up ­every night, drive in your runs, hopefully.

“To be that last guy, the bench guy, you see how the staff handles and treats guys, stuff you don’t notice playing every day what guys are going through. There are more guys who feel like that than the All-Stars.’’

Konerko said Robin Ventura, a former player whose career resembled Konerko’s in some respects, has been the perfect manager to see him through the transition to part-timer. Whether he gets fewer at-bats or more during September matters not one bit, Konerko said.

“I’m here to do whatever Robin wants,’’ Konerko said. “I’m just here to serve, really.’’

Ventura said he has watched Konerko embrace the role and has been clear from Day 1 what it would be.

“He’s done a lot for us within the clubhouse and setting an example for a lot of the young guys,’’ Ventura said.

The Sox will honor Konerko throughout September with ­tributes and a promotional calendar for fans for each game. A “Club Konerko” will be set aside for two sections of U.S. Cellular Field.

And then it’s on to the next phase of his life, whatever that will be away from baseball.

“There are different definitions of success of those things, but I feel like it’s almost necessary,’’ Konerko said. “Everybody has their own deal. I just feel like it’s kind of necessary to get away and explore other things, to be and do something else. Maybe I’ll do that and say this is where I want to come back , but all I know is, a month from now, it will be in the back seat unless it involves coaching my kids.’’

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48. "He lives like a half-hour from the White Sox spring training site"
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>“I reserve the right to change my mind, but I have three
>kids, and I’m not going to do anything for selfish
>reasons,’’ he said. “Even if I felt like I wanted to
>come back, it’s not going to happen if it takes me away from
>my kids. It’s not going to happen.’’

That honorary "roving instructor" title is a both/and if he lives in the area. I wish him a happy retirement, but I think he'll probably like it even more if he can spend his daytimes for a couple weeks in February and March teaching White Sox hitters how to hit 50 career homeruns against the Twins.

Sigh. I kind of miss actively hating you guys. Maybe we'll have some teams worth talking about in the next couple years. You folks getting excited about a possible Carlos Rodon call-up?

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49. "De Aza to B More"
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50. "Dunn to Oakland"
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51. "Nolan Sanburn is a pretty good get for an August trade"
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I was hoping the Twins would draft him a couple years ago. It was a bit surprising the A's didn't lean harder on making him a starter, but I think some durability concerns came up last year.

In any case, he could move quickly as a reliever and I wouldn't be shocked to see him get some high-leverage bullpen innings at some point in his career. August trades usually bring back scratch-offs at best, but I think he's better than the usual return for a salary dump like this.

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52. "Good Riddance "
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54. "Paul Konerko confident he’ll play in season’s final series"
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CLEVELAND — Paul Konerko said his broken left hand felt better Saturday than Friday, and the retiring White Sox captain hopes to play by next weekend.

That was the voice of an optimist talking, considering a fracture in the small sesamoid bone prevented Konerko from making a fist with a hand that was quite tender four days after the injury occurred. But the swelling has gone down.

“We got it calmed down,’’ Konerko said. “I’m definitely using it a little more today.’’

Konerko otherwise would be on the disabled list, but these last three weeks of the season will be the last of his career.

“I don’t care if I go up there and take three pitches and strike out, I’ll finish on the field,’’ Konerko said.

The Sox close the season with a series Sept. 25-28 against the Royals at U.S. Cellular Field. That Saturday, the second-to-last game, is Paul Konerko Day. Playing in that series only seemed like a possibility when the injury was revealed, but Konerko called that “a worst-case scenario.’’

Perhaps the best-case scenario is game action during the final road trip through Kansas City, Tampa and Detroit so he’s not dealing with rust on top of the injury during the last series.

Konerko said there is a “shocking” element to retiring.

“When you are playing during your career you are always looking ahead,’’ he said. “You are building on to something. You are always looking into the future of what you are going to be and what you are going to do as a player. This whole year, every time I’ve touched the field, you know you are not going after anything anymore, you are doing it for the love of the game. This month that is heightened even more on that, you know.’’

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