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bshelly
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"The ACC is terrible at basketball"


  

          

Please discuss.

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did you lose money betting against the hoos?
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nah man, i will fully admit my wrongness on your squad
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      re: Sparty, not making any predictions/claims ina dvance has served...
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           and when Sparty beats them
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                lol are you a Maryland fan?
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                even I dont believe that lol
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It's a football conference at this point
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Not terrible, just deeply flawed.
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2.1 better talk about it. you were a bad, bad conference this year
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You mean worse than Big 10 and Big 12? Whoa, that's a newsflash.
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Also worth noting Pitt in a total unexpected rebuild
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Right, them too.
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      I honestly didn't even know Pitt was an ACC school now.
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so, just to understand, pleas can be copped for conferences
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Feel free to give the patented "pleas copped" reply.
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      fair enough plea just got copped :)
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On this we agree.
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lol, that's a tight gif.
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i got plenty of anger left for you, homeboy
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      Lol...whenever Kentucky loses I know it's coming from the media, ...
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Get your shots in now
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.....and then the NCAA tournament comes.
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      The big 4 schools have won 6 of the 14 championships this century
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           Dude, UNC & Duke are Kings. Stop trying to lump Cuse & L'ville in....
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                Nope
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                     it's still not a Big 4 though.
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                     yeah, it is
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                          Because UNC BEEN ELITE. They have to shit themselves to lose it.
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                               Syracuse is elite now
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                                    Oh word...more Wins? What kind of banners do you get for that?
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                                         it matters
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                     Lol....Syracuse & Louisville aren't elite. Stop trying to pretend to be.
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                          that's fine....what conference has a better top 4?
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Thankfully for the ACC
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philpot
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1. "did you lose money betting against the hoos?"
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>Please discuss.

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2. "nah man, i will fully admit my wrongness on your squad"
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you wuz right, i wuz wrong. it was looking real real shaky on friday, but that beatdown of memphis ended all fraud talk. you're still losing to Sparty though.

but the rest of the conference? 100 percent rat ass.

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3. "re: Sparty, not making any predictions/claims ina dvance has served..."
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me well & im too superstitious to start talking big shit about what we're gonna do now

they're a great program and Izzo is a legend

all i'll say is i believe in this team & it's clear that they will not be satisfied w/ getting this far, this *team* wants it all and will break their necks to play together to get it

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4. "and when Sparty beats them"
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it will confirm that the best team in the ACC would be no better than the fourth best team in the Big Ten.

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6. "lol are you a Maryland fan?"
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14. "even I dont believe that lol"
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5. "It's a football conference at this point"
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No, not really

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7. "Not terrible, just deeply flawed."
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You have a Duke team with no interior, a UNC team with one shooter (lost their other one to stupidity), a Syracuse team with zero bench (lost a key cog due to injury), and a Notre Dame team that lost their best player to injury. Combine that with some programs that have shown life in the last decade being in a deep state of transition (Miami with a brand new roster, Wake with a lame duck coach, VT with a lame duck coach), and, yeah, you're left with Virginia, the only team that has shown consistency all year long (also, probably not coincidentally, the team with the most experience). The others have all shown stretches of brilliance, peppered with stretches of total ineptitude.

However, if you want to make this post also about next season, when Duke gets a big man, UNC adds a shooter, Larranaga gets another year of build, VT gets Buzz Williams, Wake potentially gets Shaka Smart, and Virginia continues to have Tony Bennett... oh, and Louisville is tossed into the mix? I mean, I personally wouldn't, but hey, go for it.

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8. "2.1 better talk about it. you were a bad, bad conference this year"
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9. "You mean worse than Big 10 and Big 12? Whoa, that's a newsflash."
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I had the ACC pegged as about the fourth best conference coming into the season, behind the Big 12, Big 10, and Pac-12. That's about right.

Unless you're not factoring in things like depth and you're only using "teams alive in the tournament right now." In which case you're arguing that the SEC is better than the Big 12.

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11. "Also worth noting Pitt in a total unexpected rebuild"
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We had 3 players transfer last year as well as Steven Adams going pro when we assumed he would stay and develop.

Add that to Khem Birch's transfer the year before (he isn't a superstar but we sure could have used him and planned to have him) and basically our roster this year was a total rebuild that we didn't plan ahead for.

Pitt isn't Kentucky, we can't handle a loss of 4 or 5 players and just replace them. We started the season way better than we should have, but even making the 2nd round of the tournament was a successful season for this team, just seems like it wasn't because we started so well and people got expectations that weren't fair for the team.

We'll get better

  

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13. "Right, them too."
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It'll probably take me another season before I remember that Pitt is an ACC school now, lol.

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29. "I honestly didn't even know Pitt was an ACC school now."
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15. "so, just to understand, pleas can be copped for conferences"
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and thus for teams?

because this superpower of a conference was pretty damn not super-powerrific. and having been on the other side of the coin w/ the old 18 team big east, whenever i tried to explain like you just did, responses all took the form of

pleas. copped.

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16. "Feel free to give the patented "pleas copped" reply."
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It's a popular go-to.

Tournament expectations weren't met. I simply thought I'd provide thoughtful explanations as to why one could've seen these things coming. I only had one ACC team in my bracket Sweet 16 (not Duke, btw), and my preseason rankings had them fourth among other conferences. So my expectations in terms of relative conference strength weren't that far off.

My expectations for Duke obviously grew much lower in February than they were in November, for a variety of reasons I need not bore people with. But outside of Duke's disappointment, and Virginia exceeding expectations, I'd say everyone else was right around where I thought they would be.

Well, two more exceptions: I thought Notre Dame was a tourney team, but once Jerian Grant went down, that was obviously lost, and I thought BC would take a leap this year, but outside of one game in which they showed their potential, they inexplicably underwhelmed at every turn.

Regarding past Big East slams, I'm at a loss. I realize a lot of people have "conference pride" and cheer for their conferences to be the best and celebrate when other conferences fall, but I've always said fuck all that. I don't want any ACC teams to succeed, only mine. UNC, Cuse, or anyone else winning "on behalf of the ACC" gives me as much pleasure as I'm sure Duke winning on behalf of the conference gives UNC, Cuse, Maryland fans and the like.

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20. "fair enough plea just got copped :)"
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18. "On this we agree. "
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12. "lol, that's a tight gif."
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I'm gonna have to steal that one.

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17. "i got plenty of anger left for you, homeboy"
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after kentucky finally played a good game, y'all better not fuck around and regress against louisville. you beat one of the two best teams, one that was incredibly fun to watch. we're aight if this means y'all are going to play to potential, but the word "listless" better be struck from the collective vocabulary.

in the meantime, yeah, let's party on the ACC.

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19. "Lol...whenever Kentucky loses I know it's coming from the media, ..."
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the boards, friends, family, anywhere.

I just brace myself and expect it.

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21. "Get your shots in now"
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Going forward, Louisville, Syracuse, Duke, and UNC are always good, often great. Which league has a better top 4 than that?

Virginia should be able to be consistently good, Pitt is always good. And now good coaches like Buzz Williams are taking over shitty schools like VT. The league should be very strong in the coming years.

  

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22. ".....and then the NCAA tournament comes. "
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24. "The big 4 schools have won 6 of the 14 championships this century"
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25. "Dude, UNC & Duke are Kings. Stop trying to lump Cuse & L'ville in...."
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with them.

They're just schools who once in a blue moon may have the possibility to compete for a title if they catch lightning in a bottle.

It's not a "Big 4". It's a big 2 and the rest of the conference.

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26. "Nope"
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Louisville just won it last year, and they've got Pitino. Elite program

Syracuse has 149 wins in the last 5 years. That's elite.

They're both top 10 programs. UNC and Duke are top 5.

No other conference has a better top 4. If you disagree, name a better top 4;

  

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27. "it's still not a Big 4 though."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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28. "yeah, it is"
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All 4 schools are elite.

UNC hasn't done shit in 5 years, but they're still an elite program.

  

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31. "Because UNC BEEN ELITE. They have to shit themselves to lose it."
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Think Indiana.

They have to be like that.

Syracuse was never Elite.

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32. "Syracuse is elite now"
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I believe only Kansas has more W's in the last 5.

  

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34. "Oh word...more Wins? What kind of banners do you get for that?"
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35. "it matters"
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You still haven't named a better top 4. Guess you can't.

Could've just agreed with me in the first place!

  

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30. "Lol....Syracuse & Louisville aren't elite. Stop trying to pretend to be."
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Those 2 schools can come nowhere near a Championship, and NOBODY will care.

If an ELITE school doesn't get close to the Banner. People care.

There's a Big 2, and there's the rest of the ACC.

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33. "that's fine....what conference has a better top 4?"
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23. "Thankfully for the ACC"
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The Big East exists

what a whimper of an exit....

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