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ThaTruth
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"NFL Combine Poast?"


          

So supposedly the bol Clowney ran an 'unofficial' 4.47...

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I would like a new rule put in place
Feb 24th 2014
1
Cam threw like shit at the combine, broke the NFL rookie passing record
Feb 24th 2014
3
      That means nothing to me
Feb 24th 2014
5
           LOL. Why would you want to see that?
Feb 24th 2014
10
           Yea because all aspects of collegiate evaluation begin and end
Feb 24th 2014
21
           that shit dont matter tho.
Feb 24th 2014
39
FireBrand is acting stoopid on FB, Twitter
Feb 24th 2014
2
Aaron Donald, best DT in the country, but he's short
Feb 24th 2014
4
Yep!
Feb 24th 2014
23
i been on board with this I'm PRAYING we take him in the 1st
Feb 25th 2014
61
RE: i been on board with this I'm PRAYING we take him in the 1st
Feb 25th 2014
67
Bill Polian's most NFL ready prospects
Feb 26th 2014
68
Wait -- Jadaveon only had 21 reps of 225?!?!? Bwahahahah
Feb 24th 2014
6
But then he did this:
Feb 24th 2014
7
I know that. He should be a tight end, then.
Feb 24th 2014
8
      RE: I know that. He should be a tight end, then.
Feb 24th 2014
11
      yea that was pretty much self ether
Feb 24th 2014
12
      LMAO! I was joking, idiot.
Feb 24th 2014
15
           RE: LMAO! I was joking, idiot.
Feb 24th 2014
18
                LOL...nah, you misfired...do better next time.
Feb 24th 2014
22
                     RE: LOL...nah, you misfired...do better next time.
Feb 24th 2014
30
                          Don't even bother nm
Feb 24th 2014
36
                          O_E will admit he is wrong when Mistermaxxx admits he is wrong
Feb 24th 2014
41
                               What did I do to you? Whatever it was, I'm not sorry.
Feb 24th 2014
48
      Jason Pierre-Paul "only" did 19, Jared Allen did 13
Feb 24th 2014
14
           Lol
Feb 24th 2014
16
vernon gholston did 225 37 times. so. yeah.
Feb 24th 2014
13
      Lol
Feb 24th 2014
17
      Every year, the bench press stat gets way overblown
Feb 24th 2014
19
      lmao
Feb 24th 2014
20
           RE: lmao <<laughing to keep from crying
Feb 24th 2014
24
                Weird to think one of those guys is still a football player in the NFL
Feb 24th 2014
25
                     How is it weird? They're football players.What league should they be in?
Feb 24th 2014
26
                     C- effort
Feb 24th 2014
28
                     One of the guys is Chad Henne, the other was a roided up cheater
Feb 24th 2014
31
                          Did he get busted for roids? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
Feb 24th 2014
32
                               You're right: he never got busted by anything but reality.
Feb 24th 2014
33
                                    RE: You're right
Feb 24th 2014
34
                                         wrong spot
Feb 24th 2014
35
                                         Comparing NFL player Sam Bradford to Gold's Gym's Vernon Gholston
Feb 25th 2014
50
                                              You wanna compare the players each program has sent??
Feb 25th 2014
55
                                                   You responded to a Vernon Gholston post as if he actually made it
Feb 25th 2014
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                                                        You said some dumb uninformed shit re: Gholston
Feb 25th 2014
62
                     : )
Feb 24th 2014
27
clowney reminds me of a self-aware bruh-man
Feb 24th 2014
9
Ryan Damn Shazier....42 inch vertical..almost beat Megatrons record..nm
Feb 24th 2014
29
cheated/roids/fuck ohio
Feb 24th 2014
40
      he's a troublemaker even though he's never been arrested!!!!!
Feb 24th 2014
46
Todd McShay - No clarity in QB debate; WRs rising
Feb 24th 2014
37
Landry is slow as shit on the "tape"
Feb 24th 2014
38
How much longer are we going to hear about Logan Thomas?
Feb 24th 2014
42
      It's dawning racial equality
Feb 24th 2014
43
      he's a "project"
Feb 24th 2014
44
      Blaine Gabbert was a top 10 pick.
Feb 24th 2014
49
Dri Archer as a younger Darren Sproles replacement?
Feb 24th 2014
45
I don't think that's a bad comparison.
Feb 24th 2014
47
Good
Feb 26th 2014
73
yes! been hoping Jets snag Dri
Feb 25th 2014
51
this WR class tho, hoping the Jets snag at least 2
Feb 25th 2014
52
so michael sam is undersized, slow, and weak ?
Feb 25th 2014
53
NFL's Jason Collins? Backup/Special Teamer
Feb 25th 2014
54
Could be a RePete Carroll project
Feb 25th 2014
63
      Pete would give him a fair shake, but if he's not good...
Feb 25th 2014
64
           I think he only gets a look if we lose Bennett & Clemons
Feb 26th 2014
70
SEC Defensive Player of the Year
Feb 25th 2014
56
      doesn't really undermine the legitimacy of the award to me
Feb 25th 2014
58
like dan patrick said..all we need to know is if clowney WANTS to be gre...
Feb 25th 2014
57
Bradley Roby...from DB u....4.39 40
Feb 25th 2014
59
he's got fantastic recovery speed
Feb 25th 2014
65
      Yup, I never agreed when TOSU fans compared him to past DBs we had
Feb 25th 2014
66
RE: The Clowney 40 Vid
Feb 26th 2014
69
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nfl-draft/post?id=3089
Feb 26th 2014
71
Khalil Mack is the real deal. Freak athlete w/ freakish
Feb 26th 2014
72
I love Hasean Clinton-Dix for the Leos.
Mar 21st 2014
75
Michael Sam ran a 4.68 - 4.72 40 despite slipping at the start
Mar 20th 2014
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Dae021
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1. "I would like a new rule put in place"
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If you come to the combine you throw, if you're QB eligible to get drafted and you come to the combine, you throw. Its that simple, none of this "i'll throw at my proday" or "I'm just doing the interviews and running the 40"

Fuck that, come out, compete and show what you're made of.

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3. "Cam threw like shit at the combine, broke the NFL rookie passing record"
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So it actually doesn't mean anything

That's why people don't throw

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Dae021
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5. "That means nothing to me"
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i want to see you show up in an environment where you're not comfortable and throw.

Should it weigh more heavily than the tape, NOPE, but I want to see you throw.

Get out the room,
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10. "LOL. Why would you want to see that? "
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>i want to see you show up in an environment where you're not
>comfortable and throw.

LMAO -- why? That's actually less game-like than the pro
day. In NFL games you actually play with receivers you've
practiced with, with a gameplan, with knowledge of the
defense that you're facing

That's why the pro days are better-

They show organized throws of various kinds

It seems scripted, but not irrelevant

Cam threw like shit at the combine

Cam threw lazers all over the field at his pro day

Cam broke the NFL passing record

Discussion over

>Should it weigh more heavily than the tape, NOPE, but I want
>to see you throw.
>


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21. "Yea because all aspects of collegiate evaluation begin and end"
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With Cam.

NOPE

Get out the room,
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39. "that shit dont matter tho."
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2. "FireBrand is acting stoopid on FB, Twitter"
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4. "Aaron Donald, best DT in the country, but he's short"
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The guy has answered every knock on him other than his height.

Great performance at Senior Bowl, dominating top 10 offensive lineman

Great numbers at combine

People are calling him a top 10 player in the draft and easily best DT, but he is a little short so will fall to 2nd round and be a steal for soembody

  

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23. "Yep!"
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He's gonna make some team/GM look real smart. I hope that team isn't the Patriots, but where ever he goes, I'll be pulling for him to continue dominating.

  

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61. "i been on board with this I'm PRAYING we take him in the 1st"
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he will be a star

but I'm a Pitt fan

  

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67. "RE: i been on board with this I'm PRAYING we take him in the 1st"
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>he will be a star
>
>but I'm a Pitt fan

That'd be fun. I know when Revis went to the Jets it was pretty awesome for a dude from my favorite college team to get drafted by my favorite pro team, and then turn into an absolutely great pro.

  

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68. "Bill Polian's most NFL ready prospects"
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https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/438439641956352000/photo/1

  

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6. "Wait -- Jadaveon only had 21 reps of 225?!?!? Bwahahahah"
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I'm an old man with a fake pectoral muscle and can do
that

ONLY reason someone with that build can't do that is because
they are LAZY...that's it


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7. "But then he did this:"
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8. "I know that. He should be a tight end, then. "
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Because 21 reps is pathetic for a defensive lineman



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11. "RE: I know that. He should be a tight end, then. "
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Jason Pierre Paul managed 19
Julius Peppers got 24
Von Miller hit 21

So, you claim that not throwing at combine is unimportant because it means nothing (a point that I think has some merit). But bench press is somehow so integral to playing defensive end in the NFL that Clowney (and those above) would be better off switching to tight end?


Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

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12. "yea that was pretty much self ether"
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15. "LMAO! I was joking, idiot. "
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LOL @ tight end

Y'all are so strong on the Orbsters nuts I got y'all
googling and huffing and puffing

Bwahahahahahah

Try harder

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18. "RE: LMAO! I was joking, idiot. "
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Your suggestion that he switch positions was obviously comedic hyperbole but I really don't think you were joking about his bench press numbers being relevant.

I know you can't ever admit to being wrong but you were wrong, it's not a big deal

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

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22. "LOL...nah, you misfired...do better next time. "
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Nobody is a bigger critic of this whole shit show
than OE has, and I have been for years

Sorry you missed the joke, and wasted all that time
googling and looking shit up

Do better next time

  

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30. "RE: LOL...nah, you misfired...do better next time. "
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Mon Feb-24-14 04:24 PM by COOLEHMAGAZINE

          


This is your statement:

"Wait -- Jadaveon only had 21 reps of 225?!?!? Bwahahahah"

I'm an old man with a fake pectoral muscle and can do
that

ONLY reason someone with that build can't do that is because
they are LAZY...that's it"


^^^What exactly is the joke? How does this differ from your already offered opinions and normal posting style? (including the propensity to reference your own workout habits and imagined prowess whenever marginally relevant). Now you would have us believe that you do NOT think Clowney is lazy?

People are not as stupid as you think they are. You didn't make any joke, you and I both know this. So does everyone reading this.

This desperation to avoid being "wrong" is both transparent and ultimately, futile.

Everytime something you say is shown to be misguided, foolish or just wrong, you say either:

A) I WAS JUST KIDDING YOU MISSED THE JOKE HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

B) I don't really think that, was just trolling, I win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C) U mad?


You have to try and get past this mental block at some point.

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36. "Don't even bother nm"
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41. "O_E will admit he is wrong when Mistermaxxx admits he is wrong"
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First of never, like LA2Philly said, you are just wasting your time

<-Fear Ameer

  

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48. "What did I do to you? Whatever it was, I'm not sorry. "
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I am curious

Because you been on here straight up nuclear mad
at da Orbsteezy


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14. "Jason Pierre-Paul "only" did 19, Jared Allen did 13"
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16. "Lol"
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13. "vernon gholston did 225 37 times. so. yeah."
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17. "Lol"
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19. "Every year, the bench press stat gets way overblown "
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The actual number doesn't mean much about strength or how well a prospect can play a particular position. At NFL size, most all of these guys can send it up multiple times. It's just a check for how much time some guys spend in the gym or, at the worst, how much some of these guys spend on something as specific as the bench. It would be a lot more interesting regarding NFL-specific strength, though potentially dangerous, to do a 1RM squat check. Both the number and form would tell GMs a lot more than x reps of 225 on the bench ever could.

  

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20. "lmao"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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24. "RE: lmao <<laughing to keep from crying"
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http://buckeyebanter.com/images/football/gholston_henne.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yot9ClPvZDg

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25. "Weird to think one of those guys is still a football player in the NFL"
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26. "How is it weird? They're football players.What league should they be in?"
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28. "C- effort "
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31. "One of the guys is Chad Henne, the other was a roided up cheater"
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Weird that either of them would be playing at this point, but one of them inexplicably is.

BTW, chest thumping about the troubled players of the late Tressel era is still an okay thing?

  

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32. "Did he get busted for roids? Or are you just talking out of your ass?"
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>BTW, chest thumping about the troubled players

please, do tell. what off the field trouble did Vernon Gholston get into while he was TOSU?





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33. "You're right: he never got busted by anything but reality. "
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All of a sudden enters a sport where there is a lot of testing and scrutiny, year round, and he deflates into a pile of mediocre shit. tOSU rinse repeat.

  

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34. "RE: You're right"
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No shit, Sherlock. I pay attention to CFB. You should try to do the same.

He never failed an NFL test and still had the same physique. Dude was a shitty pro player and a great collegiate one. It happens. ie.. Sam Bradford

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35. "wrong spot"
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50. "Comparing NFL player Sam Bradford to Gold's Gym's Vernon Gholston"
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why for?

  

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55. "You wanna compare the players each program has sent??"
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Lol, you'd be on the losing end of that argument as well.

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60. "You responded to a Vernon Gholston post as if he actually made it"
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Don't try to switch topics to "win".

  

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62. "You said some dumb uninformed shit re: Gholston"
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just take the L and KIM.

are ANY sooners gonna be drafted this year?

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27. ": )"
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9. "clowney reminds me of a self-aware bruh-man"
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good luck to the fans of the team that drafts him

  

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29. "Ryan Damn Shazier....42 inch vertical..almost beat Megatrons record..nm"
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40. "cheated/roids/fuck ohio"
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46. "he's a troublemaker even though he's never been arrested!!!!!"
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37. "Todd McShay - No clarity in QB debate; WRs rising "
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http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nfl-draft/post/_/id/3047/no-clarity-in-qb-debate-wrs-rising


INDIANAPOLIS -- There was a lot to take in at the NFL scouting combine on Sunday, as the quarterbacks, running backs and wide receivers all took to the field to take part in drills.

Who performed well and helped their draft stocks, and which prospects struggled? Weve got notes on the receivers and running backs who stood out, but well begin with a look at where the top three quarterbacks in our rankings -- UCFs Blake Bortles, Louisvilles Teddy Bridgewater and Texas A&Ms Johnny Manziel -- stand in the increasingly close race to be the first QB off the board. (And well also weigh in on Jadeveon Clowneys showing on the bench press.)

Blake Bortles, UCF: He was the only one of the three top QBs to throw on Sunday, and based on what I saw from him on TV (I wasn't able to view the workout live from the stadium) I thought he looked OK. He made some good throws, and his arm strength was solid, but not great. He looked to me as though he was more mechanical than normal, as though he were trying to break some old habits.

I corresponded with several evaluators who were in the stadium, and they gave him mixed reviews. Some said he looked really good, and that the ball was jumping off his hand, while one said he was underwhelmed with Bortles arm strength and that he struggled with his mechanics at times. A few others landed more in the middle.

Bortles ran surprisingly slow, clocking in at 4.93 in the 40-yard dash. One of his greatest strengths as a quarterback is his pocket mobility, and based on the way he looks as a runner on tape, I would have guessed hed be somewhere around the 4.7-second range. Ben Roethlisberger ran a 4.75 at his pro day and Joe Flacco ran a 4.86 at the combine, and I think he has better mobility than both of those guys. But given that he has prototypical size (6-foot-5, 234 pounds), his 40 time isnt really a big deal.

The best thing coming out of the combine for Bortles, however, is that he has done really well in his interviews. Ive heard nothing but rave reviews, and throughout the entire process, I havent heard one negative thing about him as a person. He has confidence, poise and humility, and by all accounts he's a guy whom teammates would like and respect.

Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville: He didnt participate in anything outside of the jumps, so there isnt really much to take from his performance. Does it matter that he sat out most of it? No, not really. Itll put a little more focus on his pro day, but the truth is that how he performs there shouldnt really matter all that much, either, given how much tape there already is of him throwing. Something that is going to continue to be watched, however, is how he adds weight and bulk to his frame, as one of the concerns teams have about him is his long-term durability.

The question we need to answer on Bridgewater is Whats his upside? If you needed to win an NFL game with either him, Bortles or Manziel right now, Bridgewater would be the guy youd choose. Thats how polished he is. But its unclear how much better hes going to get at the next level, whereas Bortles and Manziel have higher ceilings for development.

Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M: He ran a good 40 time (4.68 seconds, fourth-fastest among QBs), but we werent blown away by his test results overall. He did run the fastest short shuttle time among QBs, which makes sense given his quickness and ability to change directions. He didnt throw on Sunday, but that shouldnt matter. He should do well at his pro day given that it will be a structured workout and he can show off that he has good (but not elite) arm strength.

But the bigger news as it pertains to Manziel is that Ive now heard from multiple sources that his interviews are going very well. He has a real presence about him, and carries himself with a confidence that you dont see from many players. While some might be turned off by that, for the most part teams seem to be responding positively to him. Manziel is a truly unique quarterback prospect, and the team that takes him is going to need to have the confidence to cater things to what he does best.

All three of these guys are very different prospects in terms of what they offer. Youre looking at the safe route with Bridgewater, the risky route with Manziel or you can split the difference by going with Bortles. I dont think were going to leave Indianapolis with any more clarity in terms of handicapping what order in which these QBs will go off the board. Usually by this point you have something closer to a consensus or at least a general direction on how the top quarterbacks are stacked up, but this year it truly feels as though teams are relatively evenly split among all three guys.

Given the number of QB-needy teams selecting early, it's reasonable to expect Bortles, Bridgewater and Manziel to all go off the board in the first eight or so picks. But the order in which they'll be taken is still very much up for debate.

Notes:

EnlargeLogan Thomas
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Logan Thomas ran the fastest 40-yard dash among QBs on Sunday.
Virginia Tech QB Logan Thomas had a monster workout on Sunday. Not only is he the strongest-armed quarterback in this class, but at 6-6, 250 pounds, he ran the fastest 40 time among QBs at 4.61 in addition to producing the best vertical and broad jumps and second-fastest short shuttle time behind Manziel. If youre drafting him, youre doing so knowing that he has a longer road to development than other quarterbacks. He was very inconsistent with his accuracy and mechanics at Virginia Tech. But if you can really teach and coach the quarterback position, hes the ultimate project: Nobody else has his raw ability, and hes a high-character guy, too.

We received several positive reports on Eastern Illinois QB Jimmy Garoppolo. The ball was jumping off his hands, and he showed very quick feet. On tape he has functional NFL arm strength, but he had the best passing performance of all the quarterbacks on Sunday.

Don't read too much into Jadeveon Clowney's 21 bench press reps. As many people in the Twitterverse correctly pointed out, punter Pat ODonnell had more reps (23) this week. And yes, QB Brady Quinn had more reps (24) during his 2007 combine workout. But the reality is that NFL teams study all of these numbers and how they correlate to NFL success, and there hasnt proven to be much of a correlation between the bench press and NFL success among D-linemen. Robert Quinn had 22 reps at his combine, and he's pretty functionally strong.

Clemson WR Sammy Watkins solidified himself as the top wide receiver prospect in the draft with his showing on Sunday. He ran a 4.43 in the 40-yard dash and tested well overall, including performing well in the drills. He could conceivably come off the board as early as No. 4 to the Browns or No. 5 to the Raiders, and figures to be a top-10 pick regardless. I know some guys think of him as one of the two or three best players in this draft class.

Watkins wasnt the only receiver to perform well on Sunday. Texas A&Ms Mike Evans showcased excellent hands in the gauntlet drill and ran a 4.53 40. He figures to come off the board in between picks Nos. 10-20. USCs Marqise Lee ran a 4.52 and looked smooth in drills; he could fall somewhere between Nos. 15-25.

Two WRs who may have worked their way into first-round consideration are Oregon States Brandin Cooks and LSUs Odell Beckham Jr. Both ran great 40 times (4.33 for Cooks; 4.43 for Beckham), and while neither is a lock for the first round, that kind of speed and explosiveness could be very tempting for teams, especially given that both players show well on tape.

Biggest surprise among WRs: Ole Miss Donte Moncrief, who tied for the third-fastest time among receivers with a 4.40 in addition to tying for the best broad jump and third-best vertical jump. Teams are going to have to go back and watch his tape to see if that explosiveness shows up on the field.

Biggest disappointments: LSUs Jarvis Landry, who ran a 4.77 40 before leaving due to a reported injury, and Florida States Kelvin Benjamin, who ran a 4.61 40. In Landrys case, its disappointing because he is a really impressive football player on tape (great route-runner, hard worker), and it seemed like he would run better than he did. Hell need to perform much better at his pro day, because his results today were a red flag. In Benjamins case, its not really about the 40 time, as he has the frame of a move tight end at 6-4, 240, but overall his results were disappointing. Benjamin was good at time during position drills, but a similarly sized prospect in Evans was far more explosive than he was, and overall Benjamin didnt have the type of day that was expected of him.

Two smaller running backs who came in needing big days were Kent States Dri Archer and Oregons DeAnthony Thomas. Archer threatened Chris Johnsons combine-record 40 time of 4.24 by running a 4.26, and he followed that up with strong showings in several other tests (including an impressive 20 bench press reps for his 174-pound frame) and in the workout portion. Thomas posted a 4.50 40 time, which was slower than had been expected given his track background, but he, like Archer, did well in the workout sessions, particularly as a receiver out of the backfield. Both guys compare favorably to Tavon Austin, a similarly sized offensive weapon who went early in the 2013 NFL draft.

Combine measurements
Player HT WT Hand Arm Bench 40 VJ BJ
Tavon Austin 5-8 1/2 174 9 1/8 30 14 4.34 32 10
De'Anthony Thomas 5-8 5/8 174 8 1/8 29 7/8 8 4.50 32 10'4
Dri Archer 5-7 3/4 173 8 7/8 31 20 4.26 38 10'2
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38. "Landry is slow as shit on the "tape""
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he doesn't show a burst out of his breaks and does best in the slot; he's a possession receiver. a 4.7 is bad but I can't believe any serious evaluator expected him to break 4.6.

> Biggest disappointments: LSUs Jarvis Landry, who ran a 4.77
>40 before leaving due to a reported injury, and Florida
>States Kelvin Benjamin, who ran a 4.61 40. In Landrys case,
>its disappointing because he is a really impressive football
>player on tape (great route-runner, hard worker), and it
>seemed like he would run better than he did. Hell need to
>perform much better at his pro day, because his results today
>were a red flag.

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42. "How much longer are we going to hear about Logan Thomas? "
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We've been hearing about his physical gifts for what...4-5 years now? The guy sucks.

  

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43. "It's dawning racial equality"
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Now it's not only big, strong-armed white QB's who get talked up as NFL prospects despite a mediocre four year college career.

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44. "he's a "project""
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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49. "Blaine Gabbert was a top 10 pick. "
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>We've been hearing about his physical gifts for what...4-5
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Just a reminder

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45. "Dri Archer as a younger Darren Sproles replacement?"
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Or am I talking out my ass?

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47. "I don't think that's a bad comparison."
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73. "Good"
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Glad I wasn't the only one who saw some similarities

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51. "yes! been hoping Jets snag Dri"
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52. "this WR class tho, hoping the Jets snag at least 2"
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would not be mad if they took 3

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53. "so michael sam is undersized, slow, and weak ?"
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wonder if this will make him drop a bit

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54. "NFL's Jason Collins? Backup/Special Teamer"
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Still, i hope the guy carves out a little career. Sometimes combine measurables aren't the final story. But he definitely didn't help his draft prospects with his combine performance.

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63. "Could be a RePete Carroll project"
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64. "Pete would give him a fair shake, but if he's not good..."
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well, Pete would cut him with a quickness.

I'd have no problem if Seattle gave him a shot. Pete, if anybody, would be able to find what he's good at, and let him play that up. Late round pick/FA pickup, shoot, it's worth a shot.

It's tough to see who he'd beat out for a roster spot, though.

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70. "I think he only gets a look if we lose Bennett & Clemons"
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>well, Pete would cut him with a quickness.
>
>I'd have no problem if Seattle gave him a shot. Pete, if
>anybody, would be able to find what he's good at, and let him
>play that up. Late round pick/FA pickup, shoot, it's worth a
>shot.
>
>It's tough to see who he'd beat out for a roster spot,
>though.

True. But that's the ComPete Carroll way. I can see them bringing him in to see if he could add depth to the pass rushers & special teams. I'd actually rather not see the LOB on kicks this year.

  

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56. "SEC Defensive Player of the Year"
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58. "doesn't really undermine the legitimacy of the award to me"
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recently alot of the SEC DPOY haven't really lived up to their draft position
but sam ain't going in the 1st round anyway
and it seems like everyone realizes his potential/grade ain't really on par with the past few winners

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57. "like dan patrick said..all we need to know is if clowney WANTS to be gre..."
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fk all those numbers and shit..we know he has the tools...does HE WANT it or not... thats the question

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59. "Bradley Roby...from DB u....4.39 40"
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65. "he's got fantastic recovery speed"
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too bad he relies on it like a crutch after getting beat in the first place

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66. "Yup, I never agreed when TOSU fans compared him to past DBs we had"
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he's lucky he didnt play in the Orange Bowl or Sammy Watkins would have undressed him.

dude isnt anywhere as tough as they were, nor anywhere as sound in coverage..but he's fast as fuck lol, fwiw

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bentagain
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69. "RE: The Clowney 40 Vid"
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has me in disbelief

a dude that big shouldn't be able to move that fast

I think he locked up #1 with that time

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71. "http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nfl-draft/post?id=3089"
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Rams, Falcons could be big draft winners
February, 25, 2014
FEB 25
11:25
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By Todd McShay | ESPN.com
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Jadeveon Clowney, Greg Robinson and Khalil Mack passed every test at the NFL combine.
INDIANAPOLIS -- The 2014 NFL scouting combine came to an end Tuesday with workouts by the cornerbacks and safeties.

Well have notes on how the defensive backs fared in a bit, but well start things off by looking at our biggest takeaways from this years combine: the elite group of four players that has separated itself from the pack, and the two teams at the top of the draft that stand to benefit most from it.

1. A group of four elite prospects has emerged.

The four players who have separated themselves from the rest are South Carolina DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney, Auburn OT Greg Robinson, Buffalo OLB Khalil Mack and Clemson WR Sammy Watkins. These were elite guys going into the combine, but it isnt always easy for those players to stay there. The combine can feel like Survivor sometimes, with players getting voted "off the island" one by one. It feels as though if you poke and prod and send players through enough tests that youll find something wrong with every player after a while.

However, through their interviews, medical testing and performances on the field, these four guys are getting the full stamp of approval from teams around the league. We might add another player or two to that group as the process continues, but these guys have established themselves as the elite class right now.

Heres a look at what each brings to the table:

Jadeveon Clowney: He still has some questions hell have to answer in the coming weeks, including at his pro day and in individual workouts and interviews with teams, but from a talent standpoint, he clearly is the best player in this class. You see on tape that he is a rare talent, and in the events in which he participated at the combine, he backed that up, including an exceptional 40-yard dash time of 4.53 seconds that beats what several running backs and wide receivers 60 pounds lighter than him put up.

Greg Robinson: On tape, he is the most dominant blocker at the point of attack that Ive ever evaluated. He also is remarkably athletic for his big frame. But even with that as the baseline, he might have exceeded expectations in Indy. Running a sub-5-second 40-yard dash (4.92) at 332 pounds and then doing 32 reps on the bench press with 35-inch arms (very hard to do) are just two examples of his incredible athleticism. He has work to do with his hand placement and in pass protection, but he is an elite talent at left tackle worthy of a top-five -- or even the No. 1 overall -- pick.

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Sammy Watkins turned in a very strong performance at the combine.
Khalil Mack: He has ideal size, not just in terms of his height and weight (6-foot-2, 251 pounds), but in terms of his large hands and long arms, two important traits at the linebacker position and for a pass-rusher. His results in the drills that measure explosiveness and athleticism were way above average, backing up what we see from him on tape. He also did really well in his interviews, according to team contacts I spoke with -- he was highly competitive and all business.

Sammy Watkins: Like Mack, Watkins checked all the boxes at the combine, from the interviews to the on-field drills. Hell have a bit of a learning curve in terms of reading coverages and becoming familiar with the NFL route tree, since he comes from a spread system at Clemson, but from a pure skill-set standpoint, he is elite. He lit it up at the combine: 4.43 40, 43-inch vertical leap, 10-foot, 5-inch broad jump and he looked great in all his position drills. Hes also very competitive. The highest wide receiver grades Ive ever given out were to Calvin Johnson, A.J. Green and Julio Jones, and I think that by the end of the process, Watkins will grade out between Green and Jones.

2. The teams poised to benefit the most from this are the Rams and Falcons (and, to a lesser extent, the Buccaneers).

Weve spent a lot of time since the draft order was finalized talking about the five teams picking in the top eight that have a need at quarterback, but the three teams that could end up benefiting most from what is a very strong draft class are the ones that dont have a clear need at quarterback: the Rams, Falcons and Buccaneers (although it isnt unrealistic that Tampa Bay could draft a QB at No. 7 if theres one available).

I spoke with Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff this week, and I came away thinking about what a good spot the Falcons are in as it relates to the draft. There has been some discussion recently about Atlanta potentially trading up from the No. 6 pick to get a guy such as Clowney, but my opinion is that the smart play would be for the Falcons to stay put, as theres a very good chance that one of the top three players -- Clowney, Robinson and Mack, all of whom play at need positions for the Falcons -- could drop to them (Watkins wouldnt really fit a need position for Atlanta). With as many as two or three QBs potentially going among the top five picks, the Falcons stand to benefit by landing a top-tier talent at No. 6. Its a good position for them to be in.

The Rams likewise are in an enviable position. Their options: Stay at No. 2 and take one of the top two players in Clowney (I think its possible they could take him, even with all the talent they already have on their defensive line) or Robinson, or trade down and pick up additional picks in a loaded draft (they already own No. 13 overall, too). The same trade-back option should be in play for the Falcons as well; in my opinion, you cant get enough picks in this draft. And for as much as we talk about how close the Rams seem to be, they have several need areas they could address.

The Bucs situation isnt quite on the level of St. Louis and Atlantas, but they are in a pretty good spot. Its not a stretch at all to think that one of those top four players could drop to them.

Each of the teams at the top of the draft that have a need at QB will have a dilemma on their hands, in choosing between the best player available and a quarterback. The Rams and Falcons can afford to sit back and wait.

3. The top cornerbacks stood out Tuesday.

Three of our top five corners -- Oklahoma States Justin Gilbert, TCUs Jason Verrett and Ohio States Bradley Roby -- had really good overall workouts Tuesday, including running sub-4.4 40s. Gilbert can be inconsistent at times in terms of his focus and a little tight when he turns and runs, but his straight-line speed, size and ball skills make up for any minor flaws in his game.

Verrett is undersized and might be swimming upstream a bit this year with every team seemingly wanting a bigger corner, but hes a plug-and-play starter at CB, even if its just as a nickel corner. He sticks to guys in man-to-man coverage with his foot quickness, hip fluidity and speed. As for Roby, the discipline isnt always there with him and his mechanics and footwork need work, but from a pure athleticism and speed standpoint, hes one of the best corners in the draft, if not the best. If youve got a guy on staff who can really coach defensive backs, Roby would be a good investment.

We might not see a cornerback drafted in the top 10 or 15 picks this year, but make no mistake, this is a loaded class of corners who can be starters in the NFL. We could see a run on them in the mid-to-late first round.

4. Bigger corners continue to draw interest.

Bill Polian and I were discussing how we might have reached the point where NFL teams start classifying cornerbacks in two separate categories (as they already do with traditional versus move tight ends or outside receivers versus slot receivers): press corners who are bigger and stronger, and cover corners who are average or below-average size but are quick enough to hang in space with receivers.

The Seahawks Richard Sherman is the prototype of the former, and there are two prospects whose games resemble his in Nebraskas Stanley Jean-Baptiste (like Sherman, a former receiver) and Utahs Keith McGill. Both players fared well Tuesday, in performances that compare favorably to Shermans combine results (see chart below).

The next Richard Sherman?
Here's how Stanley Jean-Baptiste and Keith McGill stack up to Sherman, using the Seahawks star's combine results.

Player HT WT Hand Arm 40 Vert
Keith McGill 6-3 211 10.2 33.2 4.51 39
Stanley Jean-Baptiste 6-2 218 8.5 32.3 4.61 41.5
Richard Sherman 6-3 195 9.75 32 4.56 38.0


Both are intriguing Day 2 prospects for teams looking to add a bigger press corner to their roster. But here's one important note: A scout I was talking to reminded me that teams need to keep in mind that Sherman hasnt developed into a star just on the basis of his size. He has great football smarts and is a very hard worker, and the Seahawks put him in a scheme perfectly suited to his skill set. In other words, not all tall corners are going to have a Sherman-like impact, particularly if they arent used in the correct system.

5. Safeties perform as expected.

The top two safeties in our rankings -- Alabamas Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and Louisvilles Calvin Pryor -- both had good workouts Tuesday even though neither ran particularly well. Clinton-Dix plays with better range and appears faster on tape than he showed in Indy, while Pryor is a big-time hitter who plays in the box more often. Its unlikely either will come off the board earlier than the middle of the first round, although there is a clear separation between those two and the rest of the top prospects at the safety position.

Northern Illinois Jimmie Ward wasnt able to participate at the combine due to a foot injury, joining several players in the first- and second-day range who had to sit out due to medical issues, including Florida DL Dominique Easley, Notre Dame DL Stephon Tuitt, Auburn DE Dee Ford, Washington TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, USC C Marcus Martin, Virginia DE Brent Urban and Georgia Tech LB Jeremiah Attaochu.
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72. "Khalil Mack is the real deal. Freak athlete w/ freakish "
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on field production. I only got to see him in action a few times, but he was a true force. His game against OSU was pretty incredible. Dude is an absolute force off the outside. Highly disruptive and can put consistent pressure on the QB and make plays in the backfield and force turnovers. Don't be surprised if some people start discussing him as the top defensive pick.

  

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75. "I love Hasean Clinton-Dix for the Leos."
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74. "Michael Sam ran a 4.68 - 4.72 40 despite slipping at the start"
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ran 4.91 at the combine

heard the lower number on NFL Network, higher one on ESPN

he also increased his vert by 5 inches and his bench press by 2 reps

  

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