Shit is just too funny...How is a dude that is undefeated gonna take on a guy with the record of Amir Khan, and still claim he is the man? Shouldn't the best fight the best? What is enough money? What about legacy? Yes this is gonna be a bash Mayweather post cause bottom line is, in his tiny heart, duke is simply afraid of risking his 0. Weak...I mean you got cats like Golovkin, Thurman, Garcia, and Bradley (who is now locked up in a Pac Man rematch) who are all undefeated, so how you gonna fight Khan, or even Maidana? WEAK....the ducking continues....All that said, Khan has skills, but in no way should he be getting this fight....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

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It does not have to be deep, this is boxing nigga...either step to the best, or fall back....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

>cats like Golovkin

165 lb Golovkin? Lol

>Thurman

Lol

> Garcia

Being propped up for a fight, will get one with Mayweather,
maybe even next

> and Bradley

Top Rank

(who is now
>locked up in a Pac Man rematch) who are all undefeated, so how
>you gonna fight Khan, or even Maidana?

After Floyd beat Canelo, all of you cried that Floyd has
never faced anyone as fast, ducks fast fighters

Fighters don't get quick and more naturally gifted than Amir
Khan

WEAK....the ducking
>continues....All that said, Khan has skills, but in no way
>should he be getting this fight....

Nobody actually deserves it

Pacquiao got fucked up, remember

Floyd is basically doing niggas favors, feeding families
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Golovkin is 160....said he would be more than happy to come down to 154...Thurman and Garcia are both better fighters than Khan or Maidana, so whatchusayin? Fight the best or fall back...Huge props to Mayweather for fighting an undefeated Canelo, so does that mean he can now fight mid-level guys and it's all love? If Mayweather is afraid to handpick another fighter with an 0, then why not Erislandy Lara? Is he better than Maidana or Khan? Laughing at yall stuck in the hype ass cats...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

the khan thing is just weird
at least ortiz and guerrero were coming off "big" wins and had belts

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Truth...and we all know neither were elite level cats, but they did have those belts...And to me, and many other true boxing heads, it's not even about these guys beating Floyd, cause he would most likely beat these guys, it's about Floyd being willing to continue to take the challenge, the spirit of competition...the heart just ain't there...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

lol c'mon.

>And to me, and many other true
>boxing heads, it's not even about these guys beating Floyd,
>cause he would most likely beat these guys, it's about Floyd
>being willing to continue to take the challenge, the spirit of
>competition...the heart just ain't there...

The "floyd hasn't fought anybody" ship sailed, a long time ago.

You could make an argument about lopsided match-making prior
to the Oscar fight (when Floyd was fighting Baldomir, Mitchell,
Gatti etc..) - but since Oscar, it's been nothing but top contenders
and fighters *the fans* wanted to see.

Fans wanted the Oscar fight, it happened.

Hatton blew onto the scene, knocked out Castillo,
and everyone wanted that fight. It happened.

JMM was fresh off being what many thought was robbery
from Pac, and considered top P4P guy, Floyd fought him,
fans wanted to see it.

Fans said Hatton/JMM were too small, and Floyd never fights
big guys, has an argument w/ Rugged Man where he says "fight
Shane's big ass!" - and Shane gets in Floyd's face post-marquez
interview, --- fans call for the fight, and Floyd fights Shane
who was FRESH off destroying Margarito. Fight happened.

Cotto is fresh off a renaissance in his career having toppled
the Margarito demon, and many had always wanted to see Cotto-Floyd,
and the fight happens.

And then, what makes this post over-the-top absurd is that you're
making this claim about Floyd RIGHT after he fights Canelo, a bigger,
stronger middleweight who is still regarded as a bright P4P prospect -
and fans (more importantly, knowledgeable experts) were calling for this fight - and it happened.

*Guerrero was a gimmie fight, but that's about it.

The only guy left Floyd hasn't fought who is established on an elite level is Pacquiao. That's it. Floyd's resume stands up to the test of time, and if you can't see that you're just upset.



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i give floyd full credit for fighting canelo
but that was easily his biggest fight in the last 7 yrs
he hasn't been fighting ppl that fans want him to fight
i mean to even fix your fingers to type that when he hasn't fought THE fighter *fans* have literally been begging to see him fight for 6 yrs is hilarious
ppl wanted the hatton fight, only pure haters thought it would be competitive though
ok cool. it was a "fan fight" like canelo, even tho we all knew it would be one sided
JMM? no one wanted that shit
JMM was a top P4P in large part because floyd had "retired"
he moved up 2 divisions to fight floyd.....no one saw that fight coming or was asking for it. acting like ppl were clamoring for floyd to fight a lightweight is revisionist
nonetheless JMM is a great fighter, even tho he clearly wasn't on the PED plan back then (ie. wasn't ready for WW)
mosley, ortiz, cotto, guerrero were all either vastly overmatched or WAY pass their primes
floyd is a genius marketer though because he parlayed the "big" wins that mosley, ortiz, and guerrero were coming off of (marg without his wrap,s and berto....lol) and that gave them legitimacy
cotto is cool but he took some VISCOUS beatings from marg and manny before he fought floyd

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ether..thanks for the logic in this post...and don't forget the ducking of Margarito for YEARS when he was in his prime....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

not to mention Punisher.

-- 2 major belts at 147

-- a win over the version of Margarito who made Floyd duck and destroyed prime, undefeated Cotto.

-- NO TOP RANK/ARUM AFFILIATION


that's not Floyd hate, that's just the mufuckin truth. Floyd. didn't. wannit.

TEACH….

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He was sitting ringside...after that Gatti demolition
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we both know Cotto was young and completely unseasoned when Floyd supposedly offered him that fight. this was when both were fighting at 140, NOT 147, and Cotto hadn't fought or beaten anyone of note, and was actually getting wobbled by B class fighters. why would he rush into a fight with a top p4p guy at that point?

>The "floyd hasn't fought anybody" ship sailed, a long time
>ago.

uh no it hasn't - ya'll act like him beating a Canelo who hasn't even touched the surface of his prime excuses Floyd from fighting much tougher oppoents than Khan

Even Floyd's boy, 50 Cent, said a month ago that during the negotiations everyone knew Canelo wasn't ready to fight Floyd and that he was supposed to get served up this year but they had to make the fight happen since Floyd wasn't trying to Pacquiao

grassrootsphilosopher

f.o.h.

nobody (including myself) thought Floyd had the stones to fight Canelo and he did it and won.
not giving Floyd credit for that win is an idiot move..... i.m.h.o. lol

>
>>The "floyd hasn't fought anybody" ship sailed, a long time
>>ago.
>
>uh no it hasn't - ya'll act like him beating a Canelo who
>hasn't even touched the surface of his prime excuses Floyd
>from fighting much tougher oppoents than Khan

Actually, I haven't heard anybody say that. And it's not "y'all/us" who acknowledge Floyd's tremendous resume and accomplishments - it's the established boxing community, en masse.

Whether you want to admit it or not, Canelo posed a considerable challenge to Floyd, and the fact that he was dominated so demonstrably doesn't mean Canelo wasn't a formidable challenger, it
just yet again proves how dominant Floyd is. It's time to accept that, period.

It's not that Khan is such a great opponent - he's not. But he's as good of an opponent as a large % of available opponents that Floyd hasn't already beaten. So I will ask you: Who should Floyd fight right now not named Pacquiao? What opponent would satisfy you?

>Even Floyd's boy, 50 Cent, said a month ago that during the
>negotiations everyone knew Canelo wasn't ready to fight Floyd
>and that he was supposed to get served up this year but they
>had to make the fight happen since Floyd wasn't trying to
>Pacquiao

Canelo wanted the fight - he wasn't rushed into it.

The only knock on Floyd is that he has allowed his bitter rift
w/ Arum to prevent the superfight of the century. That's a legitimate
criticism in my opinion, because it does hurt Floyd's legacy a bit if he never fights/defeats Pacquiao, as a win over Pacquiao would cement his legacy to astronomical levels. I think he'll regret it if the fight never happens, because Floyd has a lot of advantages in that fight.


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Of course he'll come down to 154 for the biggest
payday in his life

Like I said, Floyd feeds families and makes careers

Floyd shouldn't have had to fight Canelo, quite honestly

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>
>Of course he'll come down to 154 for the biggest
>payday in his life
>
>Like I said, Floyd feeds families and makes careers
>
>Floyd shouldn't have had to fight Canelo, quite honestly
>
>He should be fighting 140lbers, in reality

bwahahahahaha unbelievable

you're easily the biggest Floyd apologists/stan on this board to the point its just pathetic some of the shit you be saying smh

grassrootsphilosopher

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Khan wouldn't last 4 rounds with dude.

he's made several impressive appearances on HBO. Thurman could've disposed of Guerrero in half the time it took Floyd, but the Ghost turned down the fight (which is why Thurman ended up smashin the VERY tough Soto Karass).

a young, charismatic, undefeated boxer/puncher KO artist. what's not to like about this guy?

but to say that Floyd's resume is somehow flawed
because 'well he hasn't fought Keith" is absurd lol
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Who said flawed? It's a matter of the best taking on the best...duke beat Canelo who is/was a young animal, so now it's next up, either fight a real contender or fall back....I will address your other longer comment when I get some time...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

And everyone knows that

Plus, Thurman is African-American, and Af/Am-Af/Am
fights don't sell all that well

Broner might because of all the hype/storyline but
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See...now you are talkin about something...for Floyd it's all about the money, which is sad, but it is what it is. Call me old school, but if you are gonna continue to say you are the best, you gotta stay taking on the number 1, 2, 3, 4 challenger(s).

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

>See...now you are talkin about something...for Floyd it's all
>about the money, which is sad, but it is what it is. Call me
>old school, but if you are gonna continue to say you are the
>best, you gotta stay taking on the number 1, 2, 3, 4
>challenger(s).

LOL-

Yeah, we like the "good old days" when fighters were getting
pennies, promoters were making all the money, but "the best
were fighting the best."

Sugar Rays Robinson and Leonard would trade careers with Floyd
in a heartbeat. Not even a discussion.

You can't hate a man for doing what everyone wishes they could

Floyd pulled it off.

He undefeated.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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When cats got not much to say to defend something like this choice of Khan for Mayweather, automatically the trump statement "Mad" is used….funny….Back on topic though... the pendulum has swung the other way, so you got the greatest fighter in the world handpicking who he fights, and this benefits fans how? Believe it or not, there is a lot to be said about pride in the ring, and greats will tell you it was about taking the challenge, the drive to be the best, and REMAIN the best…it ain't all about those papers. Fighters fight….still have not heard any reasonable/logical reason posted as to why Floyd is going to fight a guy with 3 loses that has been out of the ring for forever, and is not a top contender in or around his weight class…

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

>
>And everyone knows that

u can't assume that about a guy that has never shown he could be outboxed as a professional. Thurman has shown the ability to make adjustments and win using his legs. sure he's taken some big shots, but shit, so has Floyd. Floyd has actually taken a lot more than the youngbuck.

and even if Thurman does get outboxed, he has the ability to change the fight with 1 punch. Floyd doesn't.

i'm not sayin i'd pick One Time over Floyd right now, but i think he's the most intriguing opponent for the time being.




>Plus, Thurman is African-American, and Af/Am-Af/Am
>fights don't sell all that well

man kill that shit. Floyd $ is already guaranteed. give a brotha an opportunity when he's earned it, stop pussy-footin around and fight the best opponents.
now we can't say Thurman has earned it quite yet, but when he does i hope Floyd doesn't do him like he did Cotto and Punisher at 147.

Too much truth…brothers don't want to hear it….they drank all the cool aid...lol….

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

>but to say

... why r u always sayin shit that i never said? :/

>that Floyd's resume is somehow flawed
>because 'well he hasn't fought Keith" is absurd lol

while this may be true, it has little to do with what i actually said.

any sense. GGG? cmon son, dude is way too big. that's like matching Danny Garcia against someone like Jermel Charlo. just ridiculous at any weight. speaking of Garcia, he and his father already said they don't want it w/ Floyd right now, and supposedly want to stay at 140, and u already know there's no way Floyd fights Bradley while he's w/ Top Rank.

Thurman is the one who deserves the fight. idk why he doesn't get the proper respect. all he does is outbox all his opponents AND spectacularly knock them the fuck out.

Don't know where yall are getting GGG as too big, he is 160, and like already mentioned, he is willing to go to 154. Best believe if the money was right, Garcia would fight, and is much more of a risk to Floyd than handpicked Maidana or Khan. What about Lara? Again, way more talented of a fighter than both Khan and Maidana, and has a better record than both....Floyd is the best fighter in the world right now, so why is he scarred to take on a real contender...Where is the heart?

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

>Don't know where yall are getting GGG as too big, he is 160,
>and like already mentioned, he is willing to go to 154.

... so it would be fair to ask Danny Garcia to fight Charlo? match Mikey Garcia against Matthysse? Adonis Stevenson against David Hay at a 200lb catchweight? you're BUGGIN.



>Bestbelieve if the money was right, Garcia would fight,

u don't think would be right, right now, if Garcia wanted the fight???

he doesn't want it and his dad doesn't want it with Floyd right now and they've stated it on record. u're just gonna have to accept that. it's not on Floyd to make the kid wanna fight him. wtf?


>and is
>much more of a risk to Floyd than handpicked Maidana or Khan.

i don't want to see either of those fights either. but u're still calling for fights with unreasonable opponents and i'm telling u why.


>What about Lara? Again, way more talented of a fighter than
>both Khan and Maidana, and has a better record than
>both.

LARA? the guy that almost got KOd in a life n death battle vs a SHOT Angulo??? the guy who fought on even terms for 10 rounds with Vanes Matrosian? AND on top of all that he doesn't bring anything to the table $ wise. Lara? that was kinda desperate bruh.


>...Floyd is the best fighter in the world right now, so
>why is he scarred to take on a real contender...Where is the
>heart?

truth is, there's not many worthwhile opponents out there at the moment.

>Thurman is the one who deserves the fight. idk why he doesn't
>get the proper respect. all he does is outbox all his
>opponents AND spectacularly knock them the fuck out.

As stated, I'm very high on Thurman. But who has he beat
to be such a clear-cut no-brainer opponent for Floyd? Let him
develop his career and continue to improve. I could see him
being ready in about a year.

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but unless he keeps those hands up and stops backing up like he does.....he's gonna die by the sword. but that's part of what i enjoy about him i suppose. he loves to get in there and mix it up. and he's stated he ain't afraid to lose his 0.

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>and he's stated he ain't afraid to lose his 0. <

Give this dude his shot already.

https://banafrit.com/
http://middlebrainmedia.com/

>As stated, I'm very high on Thurman. But who has he beat
>to be such a clear-cut no-brainer opponent for Floyd? Let him
>develop his career and continue to improve. I could see him
>being ready in about a year.

i'm not sayin he's a clear cut no brainer, but out of the opponents named he was the only one tha made any sense. who have ANY of these guys beat to be a clear cut no brainer? there's only the Pac/Bradley winner.

i agree with u tho on letting Thurman develop. another 12-18 months should do.

this fkn idiot..


Amir Khan Explains Why He Deserves Mayweather Shot

By Edward Chaykovsky

Former champion Amir Khan is rallying his fans on the social networks. A few days ago, WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. asked the fans to select his next opponent - and the two choices provided were Khan and WBA champion Marcos Maidana. After setting up a poll, Maidana got off to a very large lead. But Khan's followers came roaring back in the last two days, with the British fighter now holding a minor edge in the latest poll result.

Mayweather is scheduled to fight again on May 3rd at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. As the weekend approaches, Khan took to the social networks to explain why he, and not Maidana, deserves the shot at Mayweather.

"Why would mayweather even consider putting Maidana in the mix? slow hands, slow feet. only thing he brings to the table is power. I agree he beat Broner. We have seen how Mayweather deals with power - example given - Canelo. Let Broner have his rematch on the undercard of Khan vs. Mayweather."

"I bring speed, explosiveness, power and footwork to the table. Look back at quick opponents Mayweather has fought in the past.. Judah, Oscar De La Hoya.... both had speed and were close fights. Floyd did say he needs fans to see him knocking someone out because his fights are boring. So no wonder he's know wanting to fight Maidana."

"I'm ready and been in gym for the last 6 months. At 147 you will see a different, stronger Amir Khan. Ok, let's talk about the chin which I always laugh about. Killing yourself while making weight makes your punch resistance poor. I've been killing myself making 140 lbs and should of moved up. The day before the weigh-in I've been 12 pounds over. Not good. I've taken the biggest shots from likes of Maidana with 30 KO's under his belt, who people say is the biggest puncher and I didn't go down, but then Diaz puts me down with a little shot. Even though my balance off and I was on one foot it's cool....I'll take it."

"So this proves weight making is the problem . Another example, Angulo and Ward have hit me with big shots and I've stood in front and not gone down. They carry 25 lbs over me and are big punchers. This is because I'm at my natural weight. It's in the fans' hands who they want to see me fight. If it's not me then good luck to whoever it is."

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Khan goes to sleep against gritty punchers, which Floyd
is not

Its actually an intriguing matchup

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with some speed and other blah blah.

ok so now explain your reasoning for him deserving the fight?

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>Khan goes to sleep against gritty punchers, which Floyd
>is not

cuz he put Khan on his ass and made him look like shit in Khan's most recent fight. we talkin bout a nigga who quit on his stool at the peak of his career against Juan Diaz at 135... and now 7 years later Khan eeks out a decision against the faded version of his guy... at a catchweight of 143/44.


>Its actually an intriguing matchup

if you're intrigued by Danny Garcia's left over road kill who has 0 wins at welterweight.

Khan is an intriguing come back fight for Andre Berto or Victor Ortiz.

leaks out names of easy opponents to gauge whether or not the fans will settle
he did it when canelo was 19 yrs old then retracted after ppl laughed at it
he did it with guerrero then retracted then set the fight up a year later after guerrero beat a bum for a belt
now he's doing it with khan. saw the initial reaction once fans heard who it was and burst out in laughter so he threw maidana name into the mix
these niggas basically running focus groups to find out the easiest opponents that will still bring in PPV $, smh

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obviously the pac fight is still the biggest fight
and I hope it happens, but for people who think Khan
is such a poor match, I'm curious as to who you'd rather
him face.

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seriously
just so yall can counter that floyd shouldn't fight them, lol
look NOBODY was asking for this fight before floyd threw it out there
he literally pick a dude out of nowhere that has never fought as a welterweight before
khan last fight wasn't even televised on a major network for goodness sakes
could it be a good fight? maybe.
but let's stop pretending that it's intriguing or the best available opponent for floyd
khan isn't even the best or most deserving opponent for danny garcia right now much less floyd mayweather. stop the foolishness and just be real. given khans inconsistencies it's a low risk contractual obligation type of fight for floyd.
him getting his money guaranteed by showtime was brilliant. he doesn't even need opponents to be paper champions now

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I don't have an agenda to try and elevate
floyd's stature beyond what it already is.
I'm a huge admirer of both floyd and manny,
and think they are the two best fighters
of the past 10 years.

I am being serious when I say that objectively,
I think his resume stacks up w/ all great fighters
of past/present.

I think there are a lot of intriguing fights out there,
but nothing that can reach floyd-pacquiao status.

Here are the names i think are exciting (and realistic)
for floyd:

garcia, bradley, lara, khan, maidana, ruslan, thurman, and
of course pacquiao....there are a few other names you could
make a case for - but Floyd really has weeded out most of the
big names hovering around his weight-class.

I don't think it's very realistic to expect a fight
with ward or GGG because of the weight differential.

But as for the aforementioned, I wouldn't be upset with
seeing any of those matches.

And I wanted to see khan-mayweather a few years ago before
khan got derailed. I always thought Khan had the style to
make it a very competitive fight, and I still think Khan
can be competitive.


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he could have retired after the hatton or jmm fights and went down as an all time great imo
that being said i don't think the last few yrs of his career have really added much to his legacy outside of his financial standing in the sport
and bradley was one of the dudes i'd like to see floyd fight
if he can't fight him because arum won't let bradley fight GBP fighters (or vice versa) then cool
but floyd does himself no favors when he refuses to even bring up these dudes names
at least acknowledge that these are dudes he'd want to fight if they could make it work financially etc

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>but floyd does himself no favors when he refuses to even bring
>up these dudes names
>at least acknowledge that these are dudes he'd want to fight
>if they could make it work financially etc

He's never done that, though. Floyd always plays aloof as to
other fighters and barely acknowledges their accomplishments,
even claiming he doesn't watch the biggest fights. I'd like
to see him call out guys more, personally. That's one of the
reasons I'm a fan of Thurman. He will fight anybody, anytime -
but he's also at that stage of his career where he'll risk it all
for glory. Floyd just feels he's bigger than the sport, and in
some ways, he is.

He's just in very rare space right now in sports. He's at an
iconic level in a deregulated, wild-west sports environment.

Like I said, I was with your argument on Floyd, prior to the Oscar fight. But I think since that fight Floyd has been a very fan-friendly match-maker and has had very memorable, exciting fights.
The only knock I have on Floyd is if he allows his career to end without ever confronting the arch-rivalry that never happened; the fight of the new century. If he lets the Pacquiao opportunity slip away he will regret it, because he has all the advantages in that fight right now, and it would cement him as not just one of the greats, but possibly *the* Great.


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gatti, hamed , and i think oscar as well
then of course there was this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/10/mayweather-calls-out-pacquiao-twitter-punk_n_1197804.html
tho i think that was just posturing to get a reduced sentencing as that was his main argument for getting a lighter sentence
even beyond all that he still he CONSTANTLY talks about manny in some form or fashion and has been for the last several yrs
it's usually some preemptive reason why he won't negotiate a fight with him
most recently he mocked manny for having tax issues and then gave that as reasoning for why he won't fight dude
it's just ridiculous

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So let me see if I can get this straight…it's "hate" if one is a boxing fan and wants to see the best fighter in the world fight the other best fighters in the world…lol...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

in spite of all of the FACTS that state that a PAC/Floyd fight hasn't taken place is because of the leveraging of boxing gangster Bob Arum...niggas like you wanna still push this ducking narrative.

in spite of the fact that Manny took the worst KO in recent memory in a ppv fight you still wanna push this ducking narrative.

in spite of the fact that we all know if Floyd was to fight anybody not named Manny who has Manny's last 2 years on his resume, yall would hate on it.

That mother fucker got his wig peeled back by JMM, lost to Tim Bradley, and then fought a top rank martyr Brandon Rios who has never fought anyone of note unless you count mike alvarado who himself has fought nobody of note.

Stop with the bullshit

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no doubt the boxing cold war between top rank and golden boy has played a role….my argument has little to nothing to do with Pac Man, it's about continually facing the best, and there have been all types of opportunities for Mayweather to step up and face the best, but he rarely does….what was his excuse when Margarito was in his prime? Cotto prime? Whats the excuse now for not taking on Lara? Golovkin? Come on…if you think taking on Maidana or Khan is the move, you just ain't a boxing fan…..

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

>in spite of all of the FACTS that state that a PAC/Floyd
>fight hasn't taken place is because of the leveraging of
>boxing gangster Bob Arum...niggas like you wanna still push
>this ducking narrative.
>

bob arum is blocking the fight and yet negotiations were as good as done before floyd asked for the random testing a couple years back?
that and arum has asked for the fight several times and this has been collaborated by HBO execs (when floyd still worked for them)
if you think these are all "LIES!!!" then floyd could simple call arums buff by publicly initiating negotiations


>in spite of the fact that Manny took the worst KO in recent
>memory in a ppv fight you still wanna push this ducking
>narrative.

this happened in late 2012....damn near 5 yrs since mayweather began coming up with 101 reasons why he couldn't fight manny
not sure the relevancy of this
or is this that win by proxy thing broner was talking about?
lol


tim bradley is better than anyone floyd has fought recently, that and the fact you think manny lost to him i'm not sure i should have even read the last two paragraphs

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a WORTHY OPPONENT that offers some intrigue?

No one really believes Khan or Maidana has a real chance of beating Floyd and if you do you're purposely deluding yourself

Its clear he's avoiding Pacquiao at this point -- only Floyd apologists say otherwise

Why can't he fight either Bradley/Garcia/Matthysse...or how abt Provodnikov who I'm sure would put up a more interesting fight than either Khan or Maidana who he's trying to get ppl to vote on

I was done w/that mofo when he recently gave what was essentially EXCUSES why he's not figthting Pacquiao --

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My nigga...if you want to look and the pac/floyd situation as if it is a situation that just stands alone..as if Bob Arum don't exist. As if the history between floyd and he don't exist. As if that shit is as simple as an after school on the playground fight happening...be my guest, but I don't entertain the naive.

As for the other niggas you named... Danny Garcia is really the only one who you can look at. The rest of them dudes you just coming with some silly rhetoric about how they might cause problems for floyd for the first half of the first round before he demolishes them.

but even more troubling for me is this: Just because he ain't fighting these dudes this time around..does that mean he absolutely never will? One fight at a time, yall niggas act like he supposed to fight every major contender at once.

Plus, if Floyd were to retire today, anybody saying 'oh, he left Garcia and Matthysse on the table" are just losing it.

annnnnnnnd when Canelo plays out his hall of fame career when he fucks up 95% of the rest of these dudes, that W is only going to look better

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....have to fight any of the guys that won't fight each other?

Honest answers please.

Lots of revisionist history up in here and it's hella funny that cats wanna come through every so often revising shit in the hopes that there'll be no one around to refute them..

The Gatti, Mitchell, Baldomir era was when Mayweather was fresh out of 130lbs....trying to get his legs in the 140-147lbs class...

If those fights are insignificant like cats are swearing up and down they are it's because y'all refuse to view them in their proper context.

This is the Mayweather that couldn't say anything to get Mosley to fight him at 135 lbs.

This is the Mayweather that couldn't get his then promoter BOB ARUM to arrange what would then be a TOP RANK ONLY SUPERFIGHT with Miguel Cotto at 140lbs.

This is the Mayweather that was resisting being dictated to by his promoter when presented with Margarito or nothing. So he fought and took apart Zab Judah for A DOLLAR MORE for the last piece of the LINEAL TITLE

This is the Mayweather that left said promoter and captured the lineal title piece by piece to subsequently arrage a megafight with De La Hoya...hasn't looked back since...


All of the duck talk was spearheaded by Arum and supported by cats that don't know shit about boxing.

All of the cats eligible to fight Mayweather when he held the lineal title essentially refused to fight one another FOR THE RIGHT to face the champion...

I thought you had to secure a ranking in order to face a guy for his belts.

WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T BOB ARUM OR ANY OF HIS TOP RANK STABLE SECURE RANKINGS THEN???!?!?!

That's how you force the fight! I guess they really weren't that interested in fighting him then...

They were interested in selling the brand of "coward" to all y'all cats that don't understand though...

Marketing. Elevation by degradation...

Shit's disgusting.

Mayweather did them a favor by fighting Oscar. In vacating those belts he left them to guys that needed them to continue their bids at relevancy.

Williams = freak of nature, solid fighter. Too bad he would come in the ring weighing what a Super Middleweight weighs for a Welterweight fight. I don't think he bothered securing a ranking to face Mayweather for his belts when he held them

Cotto = Only wanted Mayweather because Arum told him to. He wanted no parts of him after the Gatti destruction at 140 and only chirped after Mayweather started to command attention like De La Hoya. He didn't bother securing a ranking to face Mayweather for his belts when he held them.

Margarito = Marga -CHEATO (nuff said) He didn't bother securing a ranking to face Mayweather for his belts when he held them

He fought everyone else. WTF??!?

>All of the cats eligible to fight Mayweather when he held the
>lineal title essentially refused to fight one another FOR THE
>RIGHT to face the champion...
>
>I thought you had to secure a ranking in order to face a guy
>for his belts.
>
>WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T BOB ARUM OR ANY OF HIS TOP RANK STABLE
>SECURE RANKINGS THEN???!?!?!
>


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according to all the shit you just typed...floyd should be calling manny out as he's next in line for the WBC http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2

and yet floyd is skipping two fighters to fight a dude ranked #3 by the WBC and UNRANKED by any of the other belts as he has never even fought at 147 before.......
bwhahahahahaha

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Seriously... Is this fight for any title?


...what's on the line here?


"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."

If Pacquiao is the best guy then he's the best guy.

I personally don't think a victory over Rios automatically qualifies him. Especially when the two guys that beat him are fighting each other...


...and then there is the Top Rank qualifier.... I don't think dude is getting past that at all...


I'm through with that. I don't blame him for it either. Arum did him dirty and I'm willing to bet that if he fought Margarito there would have been foul play involved like there was with Cotto... Margarito seemed to be an "enforcer" of some sort...

You're risking your life in there. I don't blame him.

That said, if they can make the fight I'll watch. If not, then I'm fine with whatever else is available.


"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."

>If Pacquiao is the best guy then he's the best guy.
>
>I personally don't think a victory over Rios automatically
>qualifies him.

Fair, although Rios was a tougher contender than people are
giving him credit for. Still, (another) win over Bradley
absolutely would objectively position Pacquiao as the logical
challenger to Floyd. He's the best guy out there and Floyd/Pac
is still the biggest fight in the sport anyway you cut it.

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My only issue is the use of coward in reference to any/either fighter.

Folks are comfortable spinning both camps' use of their respective leverage/advantages.

It clear to me that Arum is the real catalyst behind this not happening.

Cats won't look at something as simple as Arum's willingness to throw Mayweather in with Margarito as a form of "appeasement" with all we know (and could speculate) about Margarito now..

When faced with not being able to viably keep pace with Mayweather...Arum did the same to Cotto...

...and we spoke that night... That fight changed him...did some irreparable damage to him...

I don't blame Mayweather at all. I am pissed at son though...

I do blame Pacquiao *slightly* more than Mayweather because of his complicit behavior with Arum's bullshit...but ultimately I understand that for whatever reason he trusts that man to handle him...as is his right.

I absolutely blame Arum for being the scumbag that he is in all of this...


"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."

Floyd has what - 4 more fights left in
his contract? At some point he may
not be satisfied w/ the remaining
field, and contrary to what some believe,
I feel that Floyd wants to go out on the highest
note - he understands what is at stake for his legacy
if the Pacquiao fight doesn't happen....

Part of me feels like he's waiting until his grande
finale to do it - and that Pacquiao may opt out of
his contract when it expires in November to make
the fight happen - as that may be the only way the
fight happens (Arum having nothing to do w/ it).

They both (Pac & Floyd) say they want to give the
fans the most exciting fights - so the onus is on them
to make the fight happen.

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Very DEEP...lol...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

Ether pt. 2...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

These niggas don't like facts but its footage of MAYWEATHER BEGGING FOR fights with Mosley, Cotto etc and he got no play at all.

Your post is ON POINT AND FACTUAL CASE CLOSED

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I'm guessing Floyd is using the fact that he finally fought a solid young fighter who was in his prime to justify going back to his old ways of fighting past their prime cats who just got knocked out..

Pacquiao may be past his prime but it's a fight that would still be pay per view worthy ... Floyd need to stop making excuses and make it happen.

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I'm guessing Floyd is using the fact that he finally fought a solid young fighter who was in his prime to justify going back to his old ways of fighting past their prime cats who just got knocked out..


I demand he fights Pacquiao who's one of those past their prime cats who just got knocked out..

I'm done - lololololololololololol

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...Freddie Roach and a few others stating that Khan has been known to give Pacquiao all he could handle whenever they would spar. They've even gone as far as saying that Khan posed Pacquiao MAJOR problems in sparring..

Other than that... I honestly don't see it. Styles may make fights but I don't see it.

I don't necessarily think the Rios victory places Pacquiao squarely as the top opponent for Mayweather either. Supposedly, the winner of Pacquiao vs. Bradley will rematch JMM...

I'd maybe want to see the winner of that one face Mayweather...but we know the Top Rank hurdle is there...

Who can he fight right now? Golovkin? Thurman? Garcia?

I can't say I'd want to see any of those... Golovkin....maybe??? That's still a legit middleweight though... Bigger than Canelo...and we see a victory over Canelo doesn't sate the naysayers....

Canelo...

the only real legit boxing related beef anyone can have with Floyd is his choice of opponents, and Canelo was a step in the right direction in that regard..

whereas a fight with Khan is a step backwards in that regard..

I would like to see a Golovkin fight..but I think there are some big fights at smaller weights he should take first..ie Manny...

I could see a fight with Golovkin being his final fight..ending his career winning the middleweight title.... that would be huge.

>I would like to see a Golovkin fight..but I think there are
>some big fights at smaller weights he should take first..ie
>Manny...
>
>I could see a fight with Golovkin being his final
>fight..ending his career winning the middleweight title....
>that would be huge.

Are you calling for Manny to fight James Kirkland?

Ward to fight Adonis Stevenson?




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>>I would like to see a Golovkin fight..but I think there are
>>some big fights at smaller weights he should take first..ie
>>Manny...
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>>I could see a fight with Golovkin being his final
>>fight..ending his career winning the middleweight title....
>>that would be huge.
>
>Are you calling for Manny to fight James Kirkland?
>
>Ward to fight Adonis Stevenson?
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I'll tell you..

I want Floyd to fight those guys because they would be relatively challenging fights for him...

fights he'd win with about as much ease as he beat Alvarez...

and doing so would be a great accomplishments...the type of accomplishments similar fighters attempted...and mostly concurred... Fighters like Sugar Ray Robinson...Sugar Ray Leonard....Pernell Whitaker....Thomas Hearns..Roberto duran.....

guys like that....Guys who were pound for pound great fighters...
those are the type of accomplishments they went after.....

fighting Amir Khan right now is back to the same ol bullshit of taking low risk for a high payday for himself..

and hey..he can do that..

but when there are more challenging options out there...options he's pretty easily be successful at... in that context fighting an Amir Khan right now is a joke.....lol

If Floyd want to fight a motherfukka who recently got knocked the fukk out...he should fight Manny...lolol..

watching that khan vs. maidana fight i peeped that khan fought A LOT like manny back then
darting in and out while bouncing on his toes and punching from all kinds of weird angles
i'd like the fight to see if maybe that approach gave mayweather trouble (assuming khan even fought like that without roach)
other than that no thanks

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>watching that khan vs. maidana fight i peeped that khan
>fought A LOT like manny back then
>darting in and out while bouncing on his toes and punching
>from all kinds of weird angles
>i'd like the fight to see if maybe that approach gave
>mayweather trouble (assuming khan even fought like that
>without roach)
>other than that no thanks


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