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"Official 2014 Washington Skins Off Season Post"


          

Welp the season is over, the coach and son are fired and its time to get into the off season. Thanks everyone for playing in the season post but its like 400 replies long and we're no longer playing. So its time for the off season post.

In the immediate:

- We need to hire a coach and there are some very interesting names being thrown around right now. Who knows how much of it is true and and how much of it is smoke and mirrors.

- Bruce came out and stated he's the boss so a new Gm won't happen, but if they continue on with the plan we've been led to believe this might be work. Using young in-house talent by the name of Morocco Brown to do the gm leg work and Bruce to sign off on decisions it could work.

- Right now we have the whole defensive coaching staff left. We'll see how many of them are around once a new coach is named.

- Resigning a few players will be key. With London walking off into retirement we've got to resign perry, Rak, D. Hall, and probably Reed to keep some consistency. I know some people are like why do we keep Reed? Well he's a glue guy, not great at any one thing, but he does everything, and plays special teams. Plus until these young boys can beat him out of a spot he needs to stay. The other kats don't need any explanation.

What's left? Well other than getting rid of that damn name.

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I think Orakpo is gone and one other item
Jan 02nd 2014
1
Well to be fair
Jan 02nd 2014
2
Would love to see a switch back to 4-3...
Jan 02nd 2014
3
agree with all yall
Jan 02nd 2014
4
rob jackson makes more plays than both of em
Jan 14th 2014
85
RGIII Narrative discussion
Jan 02nd 2014
5
Who the F knows
Jan 02nd 2014
6
      RE: Who the F knows
Jan 02nd 2014
7
           'cism
Jan 02nd 2014
8
                The US likes its narratives.
Jan 02nd 2014
9
                     true and unfortunate...
Jan 02nd 2014
10
                          Agree 100%
Jan 02nd 2014
11
                          Yup.
Jan 02nd 2014
13
Who would you like to see as the next HC?
Jan 02nd 2014
12
I'd like Jay Gruden
Jan 02nd 2014
14
      I'd rather see Zimmer from Cincy honestly
Jan 03rd 2014
18
Interviewing Rich Bisaccia today. Really? Really?
Jan 03rd 2014
15
I hope we don't start hiring assistants before hiring the head whistle a...
Jan 03rd 2014
16
He's being interviewed for the head coaching job
Jan 03rd 2014
17
      Yes, apparently him and Bruce Allen are friends.
Jan 03rd 2014
19
      hope they are just buying time till roman, gruden, etc can talk
Jan 03rd 2014
20
           Yea that's what I was getting from this
Jan 03rd 2014
21
                yeah they need to talk to as many ST people as possible.
Jan 03rd 2014
22
jim caldwell's name is in the mix
Jan 05th 2014
23
I like that they're interviewing but at somepoint they've got to zero
Jan 07th 2014
24
      don't need to rush yet.
Jan 07th 2014
26
           I'm not saying rush, but I would like a little more concerted
Jan 07th 2014
27
                Keim pointed out that teams interview a lot of candidates
Jan 07th 2014
29
                     Oh I get that, I read that article as well
Jan 07th 2014
31
                     didn't keim (or chris russell) also so that they could be DC candidates?
Jan 07th 2014
38
                          yeah if they're feeling out coordinators that's a bad look.
Jan 07th 2014
44
Is Kyle running around throwing Shade from the shadows?
Jan 07th 2014
25
Man I hope Jenkins isn't carrying water for that family of
Jan 07th 2014
28
Yea this strikes me as a grudge of some sort
Jan 07th 2014
32
its a hit piece, plain & simple
Jan 07th 2014
34
I don't think it's a big secret Jenkins is Team Shanahan
Jan 07th 2014
35
      Jenkins is a known celeb nut cuddler. Not suprised at this......
Jan 07th 2014
37
           I didn't realize that.
Jan 08th 2014
45
WTF?
Jan 07th 2014
30
Yea after watching KC's decreasing productivity
Jan 07th 2014
33
Also sounds like Garcon got his feelings hurt
Jan 07th 2014
36
      honestly i feel like Pierre cared more about his record than winning
Jan 07th 2014
39
           Maybe that's why they don't get along
Jan 07th 2014
40
           I think towards the end that might've been true
Jan 07th 2014
41
                my guess is just a basic personality clash
Jan 07th 2014
42
                     The only reason I felt like it was more than that
Jan 07th 2014
43
Stafford meets with HC canditates OMGGG CONTROVERSY
Jan 08th 2014
46
that is why the skins are idiots
Jan 08th 2014
47
You already know the answer to this
Jan 08th 2014
48
Dewd
Jan 08th 2014
49
      lol. touche
Jan 09th 2014
57
Well we've got a new HC, we'll see how it plays out
Jan 09th 2014
50
Like I mentioned in another post, I was hoping for Whisenhunt
Jan 09th 2014
51
As far as HC candidates, pretty cysed.
Jan 09th 2014
52
I think the staff he puts around him will provide some insight
Jan 09th 2014
53
to be honest
Jan 09th 2014
54
I'm totally unfamiliar with him as a leader
Jan 09th 2014
55
RE: I'm totally unfamiliar with him as a leader
Jan 09th 2014
56
go rewatch Hard Knocks... seems like a strong leader... my boy played
Jan 09th 2014
58
the hard knocks clips they're playing on the radio got me hyped.
Jan 09th 2014
62
I think you should watch their games more
Jan 09th 2014
59
I'm interested in seeing his philosophy of building the lines
Jan 09th 2014
60
This.
Jan 09th 2014
61
anyone know how good tampa's lines were under john gruden?
Jan 09th 2014
63
This some good shit
Jan 09th 2014
64
RE: Well we've got a new HC, we'll see how it plays out
Jan 09th 2014
66
lulz
Jan 09th 2014
71
Gruden wanted to work with our quarterback
Jan 09th 2014
65
Haslett better not be the DC
Jan 09th 2014
67
I just decided Gruden is probably going to fail
Jan 09th 2014
68
Keeping Hasslett is a huge mistake.
Jan 09th 2014
69
the scheme doesn't matter
Jan 09th 2014
70
neither the 3-4 nor haslett were the problem
Jan 10th 2014
73
      RE: neither the 3-4 nor haslett were the problem
Jan 10th 2014
74
X's and O's
Jan 10th 2014
72
What do we make of this Interview Report?
Jan 13th 2014
75
95% of the time the skins pr machine is wrong.
Jan 13th 2014
76
I get that, i'm just saying that this sort of news story doesn't come
Jan 13th 2014
77
      They could just be kicking the Skins while they are down....
Jan 13th 2014
79
Ehh....I dunno. I'm on the fence about it.
Jan 13th 2014
78
      I don't know the process, like i'm not sure if folks interview after
Jan 13th 2014
80
           depends on what requesting permission means
Jan 13th 2014
81
                They never interviewed Zimmer even they requested permission
Jan 13th 2014
82
I think I'm changing my opinion on keeping Haslett
Jan 14th 2014
83
remember the cover-0 blitz vs Dallas two seasons ago
Jan 15th 2014
86
not sure i buy this
Jan 15th 2014
87
      apparently, that info came out after the dallas game that season
Jan 15th 2014
88
      Keim doesn't usually go in for that rumor
Jan 15th 2014
90
      Chris Cooley touched on the Shanny's hands in everything
Jan 15th 2014
91
           Cooley is a company man stoolpigeon...
Jan 23rd 2014
103
No excuse for all his defenses pre Shanny sucking tho....
Jan 15th 2014
93
get rid of your boy/cousin
Jan 14th 2014
84
Not my boy, I just call it like I see it
Jan 15th 2014
89
      Yeah I guess so. I was rooting for him though since he was a DC dude...
Jan 15th 2014
92
           I wanted Josh to win, I really did all that he'd been through
Jan 16th 2014
94
Will Orakpo going to the Pro-Bowl out price us to keep him?
Jan 22nd 2014
95
I was resigned on letting him go anyway.
Jan 22nd 2014
96
if we're staying in a 3/4 he might as well leave
Jan 22nd 2014
97
i hope so
Jan 22nd 2014
98
He'll be inconsistent and overpriced
Jan 22nd 2014
99
Kerrigan is going down this same path sadly
Jan 22nd 2014
100
      Its sad cause the coaching is gonna be bad for awhile.
Jan 22nd 2014
101
overrated, injury prone & only truly busted ass in contract year?
Jan 23rd 2014
102
      I'd keep him at discounted rate
Jan 23rd 2014
104
           He's not gonna want a discounted rate...That's the thing.
Jan 23rd 2014
105
                I agree, we shouldn't be spending more than we can
Jan 23rd 2014
106
Is Fred Davis just dumb? Failed another test
Jan 24th 2014
107
He proved that a long time ago.
Jan 24th 2014
108
Wow, wtf?!?
Jan 24th 2014
109
shanny was right on this one.
Jan 24th 2014
110
Oh well bye.
Jan 24th 2014
111
you're in a position for what could be your last professional contract
Jan 24th 2014
112
Says he knowingly took the banned substance
Feb 19th 2014
113
see ya Sleepy. At least you provided some humor
Feb 20th 2014
114
He just seemed like a dude that never full got it
Feb 20th 2014
115
      TBH, our organization didn't help his situation...
Feb 20th 2014
116
           And some more Hot Sleepy Fiyah!
Feb 21st 2014
117
                When it rains it pours...Sheesh...
Feb 21st 2014
118
                I honestly believe he was feeling sorry for himself
Feb 21st 2014
119
                     I honestly wish him well
Feb 21st 2014
120
                Just came to post this. Sad that he keeps compounding his probs
Feb 21st 2014
121
Will D. Hall move to safety?
Feb 21st 2014
122
Definitely a possibility down the road
Feb 21st 2014
123
Well his contract has basically 2 years of gauranteed money in it
Feb 21st 2014
124
God I hope not. We need some real safeties.
Feb 21st 2014
125
Franchise tag for Rak (swipe)
Mar 03rd 2014
126
Good deal
Mar 04th 2014
127
this was the absolute best case scenario
Mar 04th 2014
128
If they let them rush off the edges like Haz says he will
Mar 04th 2014
130
I like Rak, this makes sense...
Mar 04th 2014
129
Top offensive priorities in FA
Mar 10th 2014
131
patch the defense with short term deals, reasonable contracts
Mar 11th 2014
132
If they only make ONE o-line acquisition
Mar 11th 2014
133
Perry's solid but dude is crazy if he thinks he's worth big $
Mar 11th 2014
134
Perry Riley Re-Signed
Mar 11th 2014
135
RE: Perry Riley Re-Signed
Mar 11th 2014
137
      yep. good deal.
Mar 11th 2014
138
      That's an EXCELLENT signing
Mar 11th 2014
140
           good move.
Mar 11th 2014
144
Cardinals WR Andre Roberts reported to sign this evening
Mar 11th 2014
136
might be the end for santana.
Mar 11th 2014
139
Report just came across that this deal wasn't a sure thing
Mar 11th 2014
141
      Was he the longest tenured Skin on the team?
Mar 11th 2014
142
           If not the, definitely one of
Mar 11th 2014
143
Those numbers look good to me.
Mar 11th 2014
145
'Tana resigned.
Mar 11th 2014
146
Signed a guard, maybe they won't ignore the OL after all.
Mar 11th 2014
147
prolly as good of a first day as could be expected.
Mar 11th 2014
148
Yeah I am excited about today.
Mar 11th 2014
149
getting that special teamer is a strangely shrewd move
Mar 12th 2014
153
Jason Reid is a terrible columnist
Mar 12th 2014
150
the point is to get you to click.
Mar 12th 2014
151
      part of my problem is that he is following wilbon
Mar 12th 2014
152
           Its a sad day when Boswell is the best read.
Mar 12th 2014
154
                the days of big outlet columnists being useful is long gone
Mar 12th 2014
155
                     I think the only ones I follow is Jason Reid
Mar 12th 2014
156
                     Yup Kiem and Tandler and that is it
Mar 13th 2014
159
                     In a pre-social media world, wilbon had connections that added value
Mar 12th 2014
157
Defense Defense Defense Defense Defense Defense Defense
Mar 13th 2014
158
MeAngelo goes at Sherm
Mar 13th 2014
160
Hall is just good enough to talk as much as he does
Mar 14th 2014
161
      when he takes 15 yard personal fouls I want him cut
Mar 14th 2014
162
lol, pretty much.
Mar 14th 2014
163
Skins Sign Jason Hatcher
Mar 14th 2014
164
Yup.
Mar 14th 2014
165
Quick Eval of Roberts, Porter and Sharpton from WaPo
Mar 17th 2014
166
I like the signings but the secondary is still a mess.
Mar 17th 2014
167
why do these fks keep sticking with brandon merriweather?????
Mar 17th 2014
168
There's literally no one else!
Mar 17th 2014
169
^^^^
Mar 18th 2014
170
hate this move
Mar 18th 2014
171
Not a long term deal. Can't fix everything this year anyway....
Mar 18th 2014
172
I'm convinced no one of substance wanted to come here
Mar 18th 2014
173
They are taking baby steps, tho. Contracts for top players were silly.
Mar 20th 2014
174
DJax coming to DC tomorrow
Mar 30th 2014
175
On one hand, he might be an asshole
Mar 30th 2014
176
history has shown small recievers dont work in dc though
Mar 30th 2014
177
not enthused at all
Mar 30th 2014
178
an incentive laden deal should be the only offer.
Mar 30th 2014
179
He would give the team something that's been missing...but
Mar 30th 2014
180
I dunno if this is the right org for Desean.
Mar 31st 2014
181
It's definitely a high risk high reward situation
Mar 31st 2014
183
Had to turn off ESPN980
Mar 31st 2014
182
      See....
Mar 31st 2014
184
      Hell, they still shit on McNabb on a regular here
Mar 31st 2014
185
      those guys piss me off
Mar 31st 2014
186
      Man he almost had me wanting them to sign jack out of spite
Apr 01st 2014
188
           Well there is that to look forward to :) Now I want it to happen
Apr 01st 2014
192
           I hate Chris Russell with the fire of a thousand suns
Apr 01st 2014
196
Safety Ryan Clark coming back to DC
Mar 31st 2014
187
They did it to fill the void London left
Apr 01st 2014
189
      basically.
Apr 01st 2014
190
           All I am hoping for is that it was on the cheap side.
Apr 01st 2014
191
           He's not a shell, he's just not young anymore
Apr 01st 2014
193
           Solid bandaid solution
Apr 01st 2014
194
           3. HE DESTROYS PEOPLE
Apr 01st 2014
195
Welp its official
Apr 01st 2014
197
I think it's a smart deal
Apr 02nd 2014
198
the #s could certainly be worse.
Apr 02nd 2014
199
3 year deal worth 24 Mil with 16 guaranteed
Apr 02nd 2014
200
I'm happy with this move... for now.
Apr 02nd 2014
201
As with most of our moves this could bomb
Apr 02nd 2014
202
Its a conservative contract that suits both sides
Apr 02nd 2014
203
      Yup. I still don't really like Allen as a GM
Apr 02nd 2014
204
           So far with Bruce as the GM i don't have a ton of problems
Apr 02nd 2014
207
                co-sign
Apr 02nd 2014
208
                yeah it's the drafting I'm worried about.
Apr 02nd 2014
210
                     Bingo.
Apr 02nd 2014
211
                     I agree with you, i'm hoping the other guys in the room
Apr 03rd 2014
212
#OffseasonChamps
Apr 02nd 2014
205
Well technically not the true #OffSeasonChamps...
Apr 02nd 2014
206
And just like that!
Apr 02nd 2014
209
Colt McCoy signed as third string................
Apr 03rd 2014
213
Desean shows up as planned.
Apr 14th 2014
214
sooo... draft thoughts?
May 12th 2014
215
Everybody still in Wiz playoff mode
May 12th 2014
216
seeing as i waited till that game 4 loss to up this...
May 12th 2014
217
I don't like the OLB/Murphy pick.
May 12th 2014
218
      Some of the weak pass rush has to do w/ switching coaching/schemes
May 12th 2014
219
           my thoughts on Haslett's mediocrity are well known.
May 12th 2014
220
                And pretty well documented as well.
May 12th 2014
221
Ain't that about a bitch! Morocco Brown joins the Brown's Front
May 21st 2014
222
tough loss.
May 22nd 2014
223
Hopefully one day he can return as our GM
May 22nd 2014
224
he's obviously somewhat popular around the league
May 22nd 2014
225
Jay Gruden strategies for using Jordan Reed
Jul 09th 2014
226
i saw that, and the fact that he's the only Legit Tall receiver we have
Jul 09th 2014
227
Man, I hope Tanard Jackson gets the help he needs
Jul 10th 2014
228
Dog, I read it at first like "Why they bringing up a year old article"
Jul 10th 2014
229
up for the preseason...
Aug 06th 2014
230
Yeah, curious about the defense.
Aug 07th 2014
232
Wanna see if Rambo is as bad as people are saying.
Aug 07th 2014
233
Anyone else find the "RG3, RG3, RG3" chant awkward?
Aug 06th 2014
231
its great how gruden repeatedly tries to check all that when he can
Aug 07th 2014
234
quick pats game thoughts
Aug 08th 2014
235
RE: quick pats game thoughts
Aug 08th 2014
236
the return of kyle shanny aka snooze bowl
Aug 19th 2014
237
loving Ryan Grant
Aug 19th 2014
245
Was at the Browns game last night
Aug 19th 2014
238
I think that's always a challenge for young QBs
Aug 19th 2014
239
Is it time for a new post?
Aug 19th 2014
240
Yeah I don't know
Aug 19th 2014
243
      yeah, that is why i just up this one
Aug 19th 2014
247
      That'll work
Aug 19th 2014
248
Man, *skins fans "as a whole" dissapoing me
Aug 19th 2014
241
Yeah I can't listen to talk radio
Aug 19th 2014
244
its wild...
Aug 19th 2014
249
RE: I think that's always a challenge for young QBs
Aug 19th 2014
242
if ThreeStacks gets hurt trying to stretch a play out
Aug 19th 2014
246
Young
Aug 21st 2014
250
      Keim and the vets say it's night and day
Aug 22nd 2014
251
lets be honest, cousins should be the Game 1 starter
Aug 25th 2014
252
lol
Aug 25th 2014
253
      cosign on everything
Aug 25th 2014
254
      yup
Aug 25th 2014
257
      Am I the only one who thinks the running game looks a little weak?
Aug 25th 2014
255
           honestly I haven't watched pre-season
Aug 25th 2014
256
           its hasnt looked dominant, but i think they were working out kinks
Aug 25th 2014
260
Bob called it a year early: Operation Patience
Aug 25th 2014
258
yeah, sheli and brees come to mind as comparably late bloomers
Aug 25th 2014
259
basically...
Aug 25th 2014
262
      did someone doubt there are idiots out there?
Aug 25th 2014
263
Just so we're all on the same page
Aug 25th 2014
261
There's just no way this is the offense so I'm not trippin
Aug 25th 2014
264
That's why I'm sitting back w/ a Kool-Aid grin
Aug 25th 2014
265
this is where I am
Aug 25th 2014
266

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1. "I think Orakpo is gone and one other item"
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Never understood why so many people don't like dude but these same people LOVE Kerrigan. Kerrigan was really quiet this season and when he announced he was playing injured most of the season those very same people that are super critical of Orakpo gave Kerrigan a pass.

I'd like to keep Orakpo. The one thing I never understood was why they didn't use more formations with Orakpo and Kerrigan on the same side of the line. They didn't, which would have been fine if they would have rushed them both more.

Oh, I think Chris Baker made himself some money. We need to make it a point to resign him too.


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Dae021
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2. "Well to be fair"
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Kerrigan is probably the more complete 3-4 lb at this point. Dude is much better in coverage than Rak is. When the ball comes his way he catches it, seems to be around the ball ALOT. Rak may be better against the run though. The praise for Kerrigan's game is not overhype. He's a smart player with good athleticism and motor. He's about 55% the pass rusher that Rak is though. If we were to switch to a 4-3 Kerrigan could possibly play weakside lb and Rak would have to be the end. Their skill sets are different.

I assume they didn't rush them from the same side because of liability of qb's just sliding to the other side leaving someone man to man with a qb who broke contain, that's usually what spells disaster for us ie the end of the Dallas game.

I don't think Rak is really worth the amount of money he wants, but he might be worth it for us. I know i've been one of Rak's biggest critics this year, but I also noticed that when he's not in the game they are a very different defense. The amount of pressure generated is next to nothing. So for our team he might be worth that much. It reminds me of when we let Derrick Dockery go to Buffalo in what '05? He wasn't worth what he got on the open market, but he was worth it for our Offensive Line. The line basically fell apart after that. When you have players that work for you, you keep em in the fold if at all possible. Sometimes the asking price is too much, but i'd love to keep him.

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3. "Would love to see a switch back to 4-3..."
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And get both of those guys hands back in the dirt.



<<<---"That's my quarterback!" (c) T.O.

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my thoughts,

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4. "agree with all yall"
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Ideally like to keep Orakpo, depends on how much he wants. I'd overpay a bit to keep him. Though if another pass rusher was available I'd look at him too.

I'd like a switch back to a 4-3 but honestly the bigger issue is the personnel and the coach.

Half the shit NFL teams run is a 4-3 3-4 hybrid anyway.

Kerrigan is consistent, reliable, strong player. He's not amazing, but he's definitely a good starter.

  

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85. "rob jackson makes more plays than both of em"
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5. "RGIII Narrative discussion"
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RE: Why has the narrative on RGIII changes so quickly?

>After his rookie season, it was nice to see we finally have a
>franchise QB. Now, after year two, it appears many are
>questioning whether Washington does have a franchise QB.
>
>Dude owned the city last year and now this year, those same
>people are ready to tear him down. I don't get it. Was RGIII
>as good this year as he was last year? No, but it's an easy
>explanation. It's called MAJOR KNEE SURGERY. Plus, they rushed
>him back waaaaaaaay too soon. I thought they of had him
>ineligible the first 4 weeks and brought him back after the
>bye week.
>
>Maybe you have an explanation for it, but I don't.
>

  

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6. "Who the F knows"
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fans are fickle. especially in a suffering, football crazy town like DC.

The back up QB is always the most popular guy in town.

Racism, obviously.

People also like to tear people down. He was the darling when he was OROY, and he's the villain when the team struggles.

A lot of fans are like Shanahan, who was happy to be there when Bob was making them look good, and all the sudden the rumors and bullshit start when Bob could no longer carry the sorry ass roster.

As for non-skins-fans hating on RG3, that's more of the same. People want to tear people down and see what they want to see. If someone is going to ignore his injury, being rushed back from injury, missing an entire off-season to work on mechanics and the shitty players around him, then there's not much for me to say.

It's all noise and bullshit to me.

I love Bob. He's one of the best young QBs in the NFL. I'm glad he's on my team. I'd make the same trade again today. Everything should be built around him.

He's got some maturity stuff to work on, but that's what you get with a super star 23 year old so it's not really worth my time.

  

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7. "RE: Who the F knows"
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>The back up QB is always the most popular guy in town.

Yea until he has a consistently decreasing outing, That KC talk starting to die down. There was no defending his production once defenses got some tape on him.

>Racism, obviously.

Oh that cism is out there!!

>People also like to tear people down. He was the darling when
>he was OROY, and he's the villain when the team struggles.

They and I also put this partially on the media, they couldn't wait to tear this kid down, couldn't wait.

>As for non-skins-fans hating on RG3, that's more of the same.
>People want to tear people down and see what they want to see.
>If someone is going to ignore his injury, being rushed back
>from injury, missing an entire off-season to work on mechanics
>and the shitty players around him, then there's not much for
>me to say.

I don't understand why people completely cuban B'd all that.

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8. "'cism"
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>>Racism, obviously.
>
>Oh that cism is out there!!
>

I try to find out other explanations other than this because people will immediately dismiss this argument.

However, Dan LeBatard was quick to point something out. He compared the criticism leveled at Matthew Stafford versus the criticism leveled at Cam Newton. He said when you add all the facts up and look at them, there is only one conclusion.

I understand there is always going to be two standards, I just try to look for "other" reasons.

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9. "The US likes its narratives."
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First you're unheralded & celebrated.
Then you crash and burn.
Then you get redemption.

The media and the people of this country do it to everyone.

  

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10. "true and unfortunate..."
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All and all though, we have a very talented quarterback. That's something that you can't say we've had for a loooooong time.

The switching of coaches concerns me more. We all know how changing of offensive systems can wreck a quarterback's development. This next coaching hire is going to be SOOOOO crucial. We can't be hitting the reset button AGAIN any time soon, in order for RG3 to truly live up to his potential.

He WILL NOT succeed if we can't nail down this next coaching hire. No successful quarterback has ever had the script flipped on him throughout the early formative years of his career. So firing Shanahan, though necessary, isn't doing Bob any favors in terms of his development into an elite qb, but make no mistake this next hire is CRUCIAL!


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11. "Agree 100%"
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13. "Yup. "
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But more than the system, I want a coach who can develop talent.

Part of Shanahan's many failures was that he clearly couldn't develop WRs. His results with Bob were mixed also, but that was complicated.

  

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12. "Who would you like to see as the next HC?"
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I'm praying the organization doesn't go the way of Cowher or Gruden. I don't want them throwing money at a big name whose best days were in the early-to-mid 2000s.

I know Art Briles name has been thrown around but I'm hearing some momentum around Mark Dantonio. I know the whole KC thing has died down but if his former college coach is hired, that could stoke the ashes and start that flame burning.

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14. "I'd like Jay Gruden"
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He's done a lot in Cinci and seems to have gotten the most out of Andy Dalton.

Jay Gruden seems flexible and modern (two things Shanahan struggled with) and seems to have developed Dalton well.

Ken Whisenhunt would be fine I guess.

I don't like the Art Briles hire. Not sure he can make the leap and I don't like the idea of hiring Bob's old coach. Too much potential for drama or failure.

  

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18. "I'd rather see Zimmer from Cincy honestly"
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But we'll see what happens.

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15. "Interviewing Rich Bisaccia today. Really? Really?"
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16. "I hope we don't start hiring assistants before hiring the head whistle a..."
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17. "He's being interviewed for the head coaching job"
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This surprises me but, honestly take a wide swath of candidates, just because they interview doesn't mean they're seriously considering hiring.

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19. "Yes, apparently him and Bruce Allen are friends. "
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20. "hope they are just buying time till roman, gruden, etc can talk"
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they are interviewing guys no one is really talking about in the car and nyg DCs and this dal guy. But each is familiar with the skins and can provide an outside perspective.

better way to spend a week than hiring coordinators in advance of the HC. Shows growth!




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21. "Yea that's what I was getting from this"
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These interviews are a two way street of information gathering. So if their doing their due-dilligence and getting closer to hiring the right fit then honestly I have no problem.

Talk to Cohwer, ask what he would do with x,y,z, then talk to John Gruden see what he feels, none of those talks are to hire, but to make your organization stronger.

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22. "yeah they need to talk to as many ST people as possible."
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23. "jim caldwell's name is in the mix"
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i like that. he interviewed with the lions on friday
and apparently it went really well.


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24. "I like that they're interviewing but at somepoint they've got to zero"
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In on who they really want.

Caldwell i like, but I also like Zimmer, or even Roman out of the 9ers organization.

I'm not really sold on Gruden, but I know everyone loves him.

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26. "don't need to rush yet."
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the Bengals coordinators just became available.

Caldwell seems like a good dude but his awful college W/L record concerns me as a head coach candidate.

I don't know about Jay Gruden as HC, but certainly as OC. We need coaches who can develop talent, not just coach it.

  

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27. "I'm not saying rush, but I would like a little more concerted"
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Search at this point. If you know that your guy was on Cincy's staff then zero or if your guy is running with the 9ers then do that, but parading every single available option not really my thing, but we're so dysfunctionally broken we've got to get the best picture that we can.

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29. "Keim pointed out that teams interview a lot of candidates"
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a big reason is to get input on your franchise and see what different perspectives think of your team.

If it continues for another 6 weeks I'd be concerned, but right now they're not doing anything any other team wouldn't do.

The flip side is the mistakes we've made in the past: zeroing in one guy, usually the wrong guy.

  

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31. "Oh I get that, I read that article as well"
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I'm just really nervous about us turning this into a circus.

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38. "didn't keim (or chris russell) also so that they could be DC candidates?"
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if any of these guys are offered an assistant head coach role, they could hired away from their teams.

if the skins think its gonna take awhile to talk to roman or whisenhunt and the pool of available DCs would be limited in a few weeks, all of this interviewing makes sense.

it also undermines the HCs ability to pick his owns staff though...

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44. "yeah if they're feeling out coordinators that's a bad look."
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25. "Is Kyle running around throwing Shade from the shadows? "
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This sort of thing happens all over the league but NO ONE allows it to get outside of the locker room other than maybe TO at his worst. I think Kyle is trynna save face here and throw some mud on Griff at the sametime, its still getting uglier. Swipe below.

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So why are the Redskins sensitive about the perception that quarterback Robert Griffin III’s input regarding the coaching hire means he has too much influence over the team? Possibly because perception is reality.

According to Sally Jenkins of the Washington Post, Griffin has “bragged to teammates that he could procure favors from the owner and influence the franchise’s direction.” Jenkins cites unnamed “insiders” in support of the report.

She also writes that Griffin engaged in “fierce finger-pointing tensions with his wide receivers” during the quarterback’s second season.

The disclosures come in a broader column from Jenkins underscoring the importance of the new coach’s relationship with Griffin to the immediate and long-term future of the franchise. Indeed, unless owner Daniel Snyder intends to allow the new coach to pick between Griffin and Kirk Cousins or to look elsewhere for a new quarterback, it’s critical that the new coach be able to establish the right relationship with Griffin.

That makes it even more critical that the Redskins find the right coach — not the guy who says all the right things before he signs his contract but the guy who will embrace Griffin and not try to demonstrate to the quarterback that there’s a new sheriff in town.

Which in turn makes it even more critical that Griffin be involved in the search for a new coach.

It’s fitting that, after a full calendar year in which Griffin had too much influence over the owner on things that don’t matter, the Redskins have opted to slam the door on Griffin’s involvement in picking the eventual yang to his yin. For the sake of Redskins fans everywhere, here’s hoping that the team is simply not telling the truth about Griffin’s input in the decision.

Meanwhile, fans of the Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants hope the Redskins mean what

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28. "Man I hope Jenkins isn't carrying water for that family of"
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narcissists.

I understand what's going on when shitty national media and fans of other teams latch on to anonymous quotes and unsubstantiated drama. It's all they've got to talk about.

But people in DC need to pay attention to shit that actually matters. Like hiring a coach and developing your franchise QB.

  

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32. "Yea this strikes me as a grudge of some sort"
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It just reads as Griffin smear. When I say that I refer to the Jenkins piece in particular because she's the one that really putting this out. I think Kyle called Sally and was like "you want that scoop?"

She went with it.

I'm not a fan of where this is headed.

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34. "its a hit piece, plain & simple"
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35. "I don't think it's a big secret Jenkins is Team Shanahan"
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To us locals that is, now nationwide not sure it's well known. Hell, she made a comment recently that said, "This team would have been better off signing Manning when he was available and then drafting Cousins when they did."

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37. "Jenkins is a known celeb nut cuddler. Not suprised at this......"
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....and the thing I hate is the woman knows her stuff, but is a groupy for certain sport celebs. Seems to be taking the Wilbon blueprint to trying to become nationally relevant.
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45. "I didn't realize that."
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I don't read all her stuff, only when she writes something interesting.

Guess I had been ignoring the garbage like this.

  

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30. "WTF?"
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That's some shit!

Why are we debating whether the new coach is going to pick between Cousins and Griffin, or even having an open competition, this soon into the Griffin era?!?

There's really no comparison between these two, as it relates to who has done more for the franchise and who is worth more to them for the long run.

It's crazy how this is even up as "valid" reporting. They almost just need to get rid of Cousins, get what you can, and then find another capable back-up and move away from this.


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33. "Yea after watching KC's decreasing productivity"
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The KC vs Griff talk should be dead.

ALL the way dead.

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36. "Also sounds like Garcon got his feelings hurt"
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Because that's another well known "secret." For whatever reason, Garcon and RGIII don't like each other.


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39. "honestly i feel like Pierre cared more about his record than winning"
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well the thought has occured to me anyway

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40. "Maybe that's why they don't get along"
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41. "I think towards the end that might've been true"
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but when the team was still in the hunt he was/is one of the most passionate players on the team.

There's clearly something between he and Griff though.

I don't know what it is, but there's something there. I mean he may just be really tired of Me first Robert. Who knows

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42. "my guess is just a basic personality clash"
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the type of things grownups work through & deal w/ while working towards a common goal

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43. "The only reason I felt like it was more than that"
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Was when Pierre came out and said "when you suck at passing, you suck at passing"

Basically telling everyone our qb isn't good, our wr ain't good, but he'll be damned if he's taking all that blame.

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46. "Stafford meets with HC canditates OMGGG CONTROVERSY"
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Said nobody.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/detroit-lions-quarterback-matthew-stafford-asked-meet-coaching-191553341--nfl.html

  

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47. "that is why the skins are idiots"
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they didnt need to issue a release saying that robert wont be involved.

they need to stop being so sensitive. at least jerry jones has the balls to do things his way and not cry when people dont like it.


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48. "You already know the answer to this"
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49. "Dewd"
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Stafford is afforded this luxury. He stands in the pocket all tall and white.


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57. "lol. touche"
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50. "Well we've got a new HC, we'll see how it plays out"
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I know folks were really high on Gruden and I guess we'll find out why.

He's been able to get a lot out of Andy Dalton so hopefully he can get Griff's fundamentals right and turn him into the weapon we all believe he will become.

How we feel about it?

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51. "Like I mentioned in another post, I was hoping for Whisenhunt"
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52. "As far as HC candidates, pretty cysed. "
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These are the 3 things that I think are very good signs:

He's young but experienced and not past his prime.

He seems flexible in his system and willing to pull pieces together from other systems that work (rather than being mostly stubborn like Shanny or Gibbs II).

Seems to have gotten the most out of Dalton and helped him develop.

He seems exactly what a 23 year old 3rd year franchise QB needs.

  

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53. "I think the staff he puts around him will provide some insight"
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Plus what assistants he keeps and which ones he lets go.


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54. "to be honest"
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i don't know enough about him to draw any
preliminary conclusions.

  

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55. "I'm totally unfamiliar with him as a leader"
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but from what I've seen of the Bengals the last few years, I'm only "eh" on it. They run the most vanilla of offenses, and Dalton isn't anything like Griffin or the Kap/Cam/Russ mold. Who knows?

  

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56. "RE: I'm totally unfamiliar with him as a leader"
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>They run the most vanilla of offenses

What are you basing that on?

I'm not sure it's true. I heard someone on tv talking about how many formations and groupings they use.

  

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58. "go rewatch Hard Knocks... seems like a strong leader... my boy played"
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for him in the AFL actually and LOVED him...


@rob_starrk

  

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62. "the hard knocks clips they're playing on the radio got me hyped."
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for him as a motivator. there is a lot more to head coaching than that, but i am optimistic.



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59. "I think you should watch their games more"
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They have more interesting play calling than we did. They made dude without a real #1 running back. now granted they do have a bonafied star at wideout, but dudes groupings and play calling all seemed to work to me.

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60. "I'm interested in seeing his philosophy of building the lines"
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On both sides of the ball. If he is a firm believer in "winning in the trenches" then I'm cool with the hire.

You have to have that philosophy or nothing will work for you. Shanahan sabotaged the team because he believed he could win with "his type" of small, quick offensive lineman and blocking scheme. Ultimately that was a huge part of his downfall, especially since he only really drafted one true stud on either of his offense and defensive lines (Trent). Instead, becoming fixated with drafting lower round skill players, thinking he could find that gem, recreating his Terrell Davis/Brandon Marshall magic. Meanwhile the team was collapsing from the inside out.




<<<---"That's my quarterback!" (c) T.O.

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61. "This."
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>On both sides of the ball. If he is a firm believer in
>"winning in the trenches" then I'm cool with the hire.
>
>You have to have that philosophy or nothing will work for you.
> Shanahan sabotaged the team because he believed he could win
>with "his type" of small, quick offensive lineman and blocking
>scheme. Ultimately that was a huge part of his downfall,
>especially since he only really drafted one true stud on
>either of his offense and defensive lines (Trent). Instead,
>becoming fixated with drafting lower round skill players,
>thinking he could find that gem, recreating his Terrell
>Davis/Brandon Marshall magic. Meanwhile the team was
>collapsing from the inside out.
>
>

  

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63. "anyone know how good tampa's lines were under john gruden?"
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64. "This some good shit"
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66. "RE: Well we've got a new HC, we'll see how it plays out"
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I'm just happy they didn't get on old retread. I don't know that it means anything, but I did like how he came off on hard knocks. lol We'll see what he can do.

I'm interested in hearing his philosophy on how to build a team.

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71. "lulz"
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65. "Gruden wanted to work with our quarterback "
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Interesting snippet from this article...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/01/09/jay-gruden-could-retain-jim-haslett-raheem-morris-sean-mcvay-could-be-offensive-coordinator/

Gruden’s agent, Bob LaMonte, said Gruden’s ties to members of the organization and his desire to work with Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III also were major factors in deciding to accept the job.

“He had an existing relationship with Bruce,” LaMonte said in a telephone interview. “He had an existing relationship with Haslett. He had an existing relationship with McVay. That certainly played into it. He was intrigued by the talent of the quarterback.”

I'm really interested in seeing his vision for our quarterback. Knowing that he isn't a fan of the read option, or hasn't been in the past, which I am encouraged by.

Let's start this young man's true development into an NFL quarterback, in an actual NFL-style offense....

We'll see.


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my thoughts,

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67. "Haslett better not be the DC"
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Assistant head coach maybe I can live with. Haslett hired Jay way back in his Arena League days so I guess he is loyal to that shitsippper. I agree that the focus should be rebuilding the trench guys on both lines. See what Raheem can get out of the Defense, though with the current personnel not sure he has a chance at being successful. hopefully they realize the talent we have would be more suited to change the D scheme back to a 4-3. I wanted Roman or Whisenhunt, but we went for what was best for Allen's comfort. just more of the same with this franchise. Hopefully our young personnel/scouting guys Morocco Brown and Scott Campbell can find some talent to develop while having Allen's trust and respect. My wish is that the new head coach helps Bobby Threestacks become a leader and further develop his game, before they throw money at John Gruden in two years to come in and take over.

  

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68. "I just decided Gruden is probably going to fail"
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keeping too many pieces in place - 3/4, Haslett - trying to buck convention with the personnel selection structure... I'm just not enthused at all. This team is probably going to still suck and I'll feel that way until they prove me wrong.

  

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69. "Keeping Hasslett is a huge mistake. "
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70. "the scheme doesn't matter"
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it's the players & the coaches that matter.

right now on defense both of those things suck.

  

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73. "neither the 3-4 nor haslett were the problem"
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shanny invested heavily in offensive players high in the draft and free agency. They spent a ton in money or high picks for trent, rg3, various wrs, and extras like cousins, leribeus, and helu.

amerson and kerrigan are the only good players they've drafted high in 4 years. jenkins or phil thomas might have been the third, but like orakpo, they've dealt with injuries. The defense has never had depth to deal with injuries.

haslett has coached the 3-4 well with talented players before. he could do it again.

  

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74. "RE: neither the 3-4 nor haslett were the problem"
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>haslett has coached the 3-4 well with talented players before.
>he could do it again.

I'm not sure that's true.

The only time Haslett has ever finished with a top 10 defense (according to advanced stats) was his first year in Pittsburgh in the 90s.

Haslett isn't the worst coordinator in the league, but he never has been and never will be one of the best. Or even top 10, it seems.

Considering what happened the last few years, I don't see how keeping him can be rationalized.

  

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72. "X's and O's"
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Good look at Gruden's run game. More pulling & power plays, less outside zone stretches.

this HAS to mean that they're going finally add some OL talent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/01/09/how-the-redskins-running-game-might-look-under-jay-gruden/

pass game:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/01/10/how-the-redskins-passing-game-might-look-under-jay-gruden/

Makes me a little optimistic after reading that. Especially the wide variety of formations and flexibility, also the focus on moving your best players around to get them good looks.

Also it's funny how often the author wrote, "this play could've easily gone for a touchdown but Dalton missed the throw..."

  

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75. "What do we make of this Interview Report?"
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Sheffter is saying we never cancelled interviews with perspective hires. Meanwhile our guys are saying that no interviews were actually set.

Either way it looks bad on us just that a story like this would come out. The lack of professionalism is astounding if this is true.

I don't get it.

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76. " 95% of the time the skins pr machine is wrong. "
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This is that 5% of the time where they're ok.

You cant cancel an unscheduled interview and wouldn't cancel scheduled interviews until after the hire was certain anyway.

We'd look worse if negotiations fell through and we had to scramble to line up candidates again.

  

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77. "I get that, i'm just saying that this sort of news story doesn't come "
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Out of ANY other teams. I've never heard anything like this from other teeams. Now I could be completely wrong because I just never paid attention before, but it just seems like something that doesn't happen like ever!

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79. "They could just be kicking the Skins while they are down...."
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Only reason I see a story like this coming out. Everything else about this org has been leaked in some form or fashion this season so why not leak this and make the Snyder look worse?

  

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78. "Ehh....I dunno. I'm on the fence about it. "
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On the one had, since they asked for permission and never scheduled an interview I would most likely be on the nonchalant bandwagon.

But since these two candidates were on their list of prospective hires, it is somewhat unfair to not grant these guys an interview. Do it for at least fairness sake since this organization already has somewhat of a shaky reputation.

It's probably a non-story until voicemails and emails come out saying that they scheduled something with these guys...

  

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80. "I don't know the process, like i'm not sure if folks interview after"
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The position has been filled or what, but if they just sort of expect you to know well the position's been filled because it came across on espn then dog I'm feeling salty about that shit too. Like you can't even call me to let me know i no longer have a shot at the job?

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81. "depends on what requesting permission means "
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within these circles. if there is an expectation that you dont request permission unless you are definitely going to interview, then the skins messed up by unofficially lining up talks with people.

but if requesting permission literally means only that, then its on the SF coordinators for wasting their time on something that was never scheduled.

  

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82. "They never interviewed Zimmer even they requested permission"
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On him as well, so I guess there would be a number of folks with that sandy snatch.

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83. "I think I'm changing my opinion on keeping Haslett"
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I've been hearing stories that Shanahan had his hands in on the defense and Haslett was handcuffed by this. Apparently, Mike placed one of his kids on the defensive staff to act as a mole to keep Shanny informed and if Shanny didn't like it, he forced changes.

If this is true than the Shanny tentacles were even far more reaching than I thought.


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86. "remember the cover-0 blitz vs Dallas two seasons ago"
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Long Dallas first down to Dez, lose the game.

Keim says Shanahan made that call.

What an incompetent asshole.

This being said, Haslett absolutely cannot be kept.

  

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87. "not sure i buy this "
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reeks of Skins PR using Shanny-like tactics to convince fans its a good idea to keep Has

Has, imo, is simply getting the good-old-boy hookup & being retained for a job he failed at bc he's Bruce's buddy

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88. "apparently, that info came out after the dallas game that season"
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its not news to the beat reporters that shanny called the play.

but it definitely wasnt played up in the media afterwards so not all fans know about it.

  

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90. "Keim doesn't usually go in for that rumor"
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sycophantic shit.

I think it's far more likely Shanahan pulled some shit like that cover-0 call.

Either way, it's a moot point to me.

Both Shanahan and Haslett deserve to be out of work.

  

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91. "Chris Cooley touched on the Shanny's hands in everything"
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103. "Cooley is a company man stoolpigeon..."
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93. "No excuse for all his defenses pre Shanny sucking tho...."
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84. "get rid of your boy/cousin"
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Josh Morgan for starters

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89. "Not my boy, I just call it like I see it"
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Anyway, he's gone his production this year was abysmal and can't be defended in anyway. Even the things he did well last year he didn't do as well this year.

He should be a casualty.

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92. "Yeah I guess so. I was rooting for him though since he was a DC dude..."
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But yeah he might have to go.

  

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94. "I wanted Josh to win, I really did all that he'd been through"
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Being from DC and repping the city so hard, but dude just hasn't performed. Especially not for 6 mil a year. He basically got benched then came with that "coach said I can't talk to ya'll and I can't play football" speech.

Dude was abysmal on kick returns, caught no balls, and got no separation on his routes. If he was productive in the least I could make a case, but with Josh I can't and i want to.

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95. "Will Orakpo going to the Pro-Bowl out price us to keep him?"
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I'm thinking that it might, although I hope league wide perception will be enough to keep the price reasonable.

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96. "I was resigned on letting him go anyway. "
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I think he might already be over the price threshold. We got a LOT of needs that probably aren't all gonna be addressed this year and filling those plus resigning what we have will be a lot.

Plus he doesn't seem all that interested in staying anyway. I don't blame him though. This org has a long ways before it can be called a good org to play in anyway.

  

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97. "if we're staying in a 3/4 he might as well leave"
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He isn't very good, at least here he isn't. Might as well try to go land in a 4/3 situation. He'll probably ball too of course.

  

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98. "i hope so"
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i would rather a mid priced lb who is built for the 3/4 than overpay for someone who clearly is not great and might be injury prone. its not his fault, but his market value this offseason is too high.

plus he is not the single piece that the team needs to get over the hump. no reason to leverage the future for him.

he's not even really a fan favorite.

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99. "He'll be inconsistent and overpriced"
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but damn letting him go leaves even less talent on the defensive side of the ball.

Seriously - it's almost impressive how awful the defensive roster is.

Nice work Shanny.

  

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100. "Kerrigan is going down this same path sadly"
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He really hasn't played well end of last season and most of this.


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101. "Its sad cause the coaching is gonna be bad for awhile. "
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These dudes are underperforming badly, not for a lack of talent, but for a lack of awareness.

  

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102. "overrated, injury prone & only truly busted ass in contract year?"
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bye bye Rak, at least you weren't a Lavar level bust

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104. "I'd keep him at discounted rate"
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if he's going to get top dollar we might have to let him go. He's one of the best defensive players we have. Although that doesn't say a ton for him, it speaks volumes about the talent level for the rest of the team.

He's worth more to us than most want to admit.

People think Rob Jackson is going to have the same impact Rak did. That's not the case, he's a one trick pony, rush the qb. Our defense doesn't have enough talent throughout the rest of the D to just have a rush specialist on it.

We'll see though

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105. "He's not gonna want a discounted rate...That's the thing. "
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Sometimes you gotta let some things go in order to have a better future. I am willing to let him go if that means that we are 100% committed in the next few years building the team through the draft. If we can't afford him, we can't afford him. Nothing wrong with that as long as we make sure that we develop what we do have in front of us.

  

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106. "I agree, we shouldn't be spending more than we can"
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We have SOOO many needs and you'd hate to see those rebuilding efforts hamstrung over one bad contract.

I like Rak, but not at the price in which it will likely cost to keep him.

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107. "Is Fred Davis just dumb? Failed another test"
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Redskins' Fred Davis facing another suspension for failed marijuana test
January 24, 2014 9:31 am ET

Redskins tight end Fred Davis, a pending free agent, faces another suspension for a failed marijuana test, according to a league source.

The former second-round pick of the Redskins has served a suspension in the past, with his off-field issues limiting his free-agent options. Set to be a free agent in March, Davis played sparingly last season and has been slowed by injuries as well after showing promise early in his career.

Davis' time in Washington could be coming to an end, with this latest suspension the latest setback. Redskins draft pick Jordan Reed emerged as a key cog in the passing game prior to his concussion issues, and Logan Paulsen beat out Davis for playing time as a second tight end. Davis was inactive for long stretches last season, earning a spot in former coach Mike Shanahan's doghouse.
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108. "He proved that a long time ago."
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109. "Wow, wtf?!?"
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I thought maybe give him ONE more chance, but damn he's DUMB.

Gotta go, at this point...


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110. "shanny was right on this one."
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111. "Oh well bye."
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112. "you're in a position for what could be your last professional contract"
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And you go and fail a WEED test?

got damn bag of rocks stupid.

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113. "Says he knowingly took the banned substance"
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He'll apply for reinstatement in the fall.

Good bye career

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114. "see ya Sleepy. At least you provided some humor"
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in the form of your stupidity.

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/5599/no-surprise-to-fred-davis-ending

  

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115. "He just seemed like a dude that never full got it"
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Only when it was a contract year did he attempt to get right.

I feel badly for dude, but he brought the majority of this on himself.

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116. "TBH, our organization didn't help his situation..."
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He already seemed to be pretty immature from day 1, and him coming to the team during the WR "gold rush" of vinny and danny as pretty much in the midst of the low point of snyder's circus he calls team ownership.

No coaching stability + immature player = disaster (every time)


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117. "And some more Hot Sleepy Fiyah!"
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https://twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/436704558270529536

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118. "When it rains it pours...Sheesh..."
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119. "I honestly believe he was feeling sorry for himself"
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Got caught out there drinking too much Vodka.

Its a wrap for him, an he'll probably get Goodelled on top of it.

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120. "I honestly wish him well"
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and hope he's not the fuck up in real life that he was for the R*dskins.

But damn.

  

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121. "Just came to post this. Sad that he keeps compounding his probs"
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122. "Will D. Hall move to safety?"
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Anybody else think the 4 year deal means he'll eventually move to safety? Hall has mentioned he could move to safety if the organization wanted him to.

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123. "Definitely a possibility down the road"
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and a (bad) security plan for an awful safety situation.

  

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124. "Well his contract has basically 2 years of gauranteed money in it"
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So to me that means 2 more years as a corner, and if our safety situation is still as terrible then he could move to safety.

Ideally we will have gained enough depth in the next 2 years that he won't have a spot on this team.

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125. "God I hope not. We need some real safeties. "
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This is gonna be a struggle the next few years without a first round pick.

  

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126. "Franchise tag for Rak (swipe)"
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Seems like the smart move, especially with the higher than expected cap this year. We can neither afford to lose him this offseason nor overpay him.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/03/03/redskins-apply-franchise-player-tag-to-brian-orakpo/

The Redskins used the non-exclusive franchise tag on Orakpo, according to the team. He remains eligible for free agency when it begins on March 11. But the Redskins have the right to retain him by matching any offer by another team and the right to receive two first-round draft picks from his new club if they allow him to depart. The Redskins, in effect, have taken him off the market.


  

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127. "Good deal"
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Rent him for one season. If he plays like last year though, I'd let him walk.

  

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128. "this was the absolute best case scenario"
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I'd tell him flat out minimum 11 sacks with 5 in division or you can find work somewhere else.

  

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130. "If they let them rush off the edges like Haz says he will"
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That should be NO problem for him. He should in between 12-15 and 4-5 fumbles caused.

This is all should, so if he doesn't do it, we know what we have.

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129. "I like Rak, this makes sense..."
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Can't put all of your money into one dude at this point. We have a lot of holes that still need to be addressed.




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131. "Top offensive priorities in FA"
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order according to priority
in order of need

1)RT- either Winston, Collins or Strief

2) G- Schwartz OR Colon

3) WR- either McCluster, Lance Moore, or James Jones

4) TE- either Garret Graham, Chandler, or Ed Dickson

Do they resign Riley at LB and at what price is it a safe deal? He seems to want a big payday, and I won't be mad if we let him walk if his price is too high.

Do we go after a few big names like always or address more areas of need with several cheaper guys with high potential?

I do not want Talib or Sproles although it appears our interest is high for both.

Who would you cut? Chester for sure.

  

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132. "patch the defense with short term deals, reasonable contracts"
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the lack of talent on D is glaring. they should focus there and then draft a WR and 3 enormous O-Linemen.

let riley walk if he wants too much.

Gruden has shown he's capable of using less talented RBs and WRs so lets see what he can do with helu, hank, and moss take a look at sproles if the numbers are sane.

3-13 can be improved with baby steps. i dont want to feel like we won the offseason. I just want us set up so that after the 2015 offseason we make the leap.

i'd spend a little on a decent WR2/KR/PR if that's out there.

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133. "If they only make ONE o-line acquisition"
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I want it to be Alex Mack from the Browns. If they can pull that off, focus on the defense.


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134. "Perry's solid but dude is crazy if he thinks he's worth big $"
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135. "Perry Riley Re-Signed"
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The terms of the deal weren't disclosed, but I'm assuming it was middle of the road.

He wanted a lot, but probably realized the market wasn't as kind as he would've hoped.

I hope we got him for middle of the road and now can address that line and maybe a servicable safety.

As much as I love Byrd, he'll break the bank.

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137. "RE: Perry Riley Re-Signed"
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looks like 3yrs/13 mil. This is great news

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/11/redskins-re-sign-perry-riley-hours-free-agency-beg/

  

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138. "yep. good deal."
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140. "That's an EXCELLENT signing "
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I'll take that type of front office work.

Look at how bad our team is, we're literally celebrating a smart front office move.

LAWD

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144. "good move."
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take what we can get.

  

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136. "Cardinals WR Andre Roberts reported to sign this evening"
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/03/11/redskins-agree-to-terms-with-wr-andre-roberts/

La Canfora reporting 4 yrs/ 16 mil half guaranteed.

helps with slot and special teams.

Hope the Riley deal was reasonable

  

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139. "might be the end for santana."
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$4m per is okay, i guess.

  

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141. "Report just came across that this deal wasn't a sure thing"
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but if it happens, Santana will be done and I'll be sad. I respect what that kat did this franchise even when we were terrible.

I'll be sad to see him go.

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142. "Was he the longest tenured Skin on the team?"
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143. "If not the, definitely one of"
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He was here through a lot.

I would love to see him get a proper send off, but this might be a more fitting one for his time with this franchise.

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145. "Those numbers look good to me."
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Anything less than $10M guaranteed is usually fine.

  

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146. "'Tana resigned."
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Whatever, I love him.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/03/11/redskins-re-sign-wr-santana-moss/

  

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147. "Signed a guard, maybe they won't ignore the OL after all."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/03/11/redskins-sign-guard-shawn-lauvao-formerly-of-the-cleveland-browns/

  

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148. "prolly as good of a first day as could be expected. "
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other than moss, they signed young guys to solid contracts.

they passed on big names when the math was wrong.

and they signed a dude just to play special teams. its a beautiful thing.

  

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149. "Yeah I am excited about today. "
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Not one horrendous signing. Major progress being made here.

  

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153. "getting that special teamer is a strangely shrewd move"
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it shows they're actually committed to addressing specific problems.

almost like there's a plan.

  

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150. "Jason Reid is a terrible columnist"
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His opinions are generally terrible, uncreative, or both.

most recently, his columns on franchising rak and the first day of Fagency are examples.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-bruce-allen-fails-to-take-care-of-secondary-first-as-nfl-free-agency-opens/2014/03/11/a295702a-a980-11e3-9e82-8064fcd31b5b_story.html

he blames allen for not solidifying the secondary on day one. If we gave byrd or talib a 6 year contract, folks would talk about it being the same ole skins with the flashy move. the skins beat reporter indicated in the same paper that going after talib would be a mistake.

Allen, Morris and the tampa staff knew talib was a talent when they drafted them. That implies that they might be able to find another DB in the draft or generally know what they are doing at that position. The early returns on amerson are another indication that they can be trusted.

its not like the team had cap space like oakland or cleveland to spend. everyone knows the team lacks depth and has multiple holes to fill. A new coach usually means 20-30 new guys on the team. that ish cost money.

i freaking hate his columns and usually ignore them. but after the solid day yesterday they sucked me in with the contrarian headline.

  

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151. "the point is to get you to click. "
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I'm sure there's pressure on him inside the Post to sensationalize his headlines from time to time. That's really the only reason I can come up with for him saying the shit he says sometimes. (Skins will go 12-4, Skins should bring back Mike Shanahan etc)

  

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152. "part of my problem is that he is following wilbon"
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who people may not like, but is 1000X the writer.

i forgot about that "bring back shanny" one. also garbage.

and since its clear that he sucks, the wapo should do better.

boswell is the only columnist worth reading now and its sad.

  

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154. "Its a sad day when Boswell is the best read. "
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He was always a half tier below Wilbon/Kornheiser IMO.

  

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155. "the days of big outlet columnists being useful is long gone"
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I can't think of anything less logical in a news outlet than having one person write about a bunch of different topics, none of which they're experts in.

For Sk*ns analysis I read people who either follow the team or cover the team.

I couldn't care less about whatever half-baked thought floated across a columnist's brain as he was watching sportscenter one night.

  

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156. "I think the only ones I follow is Jason Reid"
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The other is Keim from Espn, and that's about it.

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159. "Yup Kiem and Tandler and that is it"
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157. "In a pre-social media world, wilbon had connections that added value"
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he threw them in your face in every column and chat, but he'd get an outsider's perspective of the situation from people he knew.

perhaps with social media being what it is now, its easier for beat reports and fans themselves to directly get that broader perspective.

I can contact one of many Cardinal's beat reporters and ask him about roberts today if i want to.

relying on the columnist to get those takes is outdated i guess.

  

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158. "Defense Defense Defense Defense Defense Defense Defense"
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its great to see the team focus on that side of the ball.

i know nothing about sharpton. At 5'11 can he cover an athletic TE? fletch was abused by those guys for a couple of years now, so a change would be nice.

hopefully, the last two years of hatcher's contract are designed for him to be cut. but age aside, i assume rak/ryan are happy to have someone of his caliber playing on the line.

Porter is a vet with big game experience. He is also not Josh Wilson, so there's that.

  

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160. "MeAngelo goes at Sherm"
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https://twitter.com/DeAngeloHall23/status/444281810936401920

@RSherman_25 just make sure you stay in Seattle cause without that pass rush you are who we thought you were. 5th rd PK no speed good hands

They already e-settled it tho

  

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161. "Hall is just good enough to talk as much as he does"
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and the team needs some personality.

glad to keep him around.
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162. "when he takes 15 yard personal fouls I want him cut"
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when he doesn't take stupid penalties I like his leadership.

  

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163. "lol, pretty much."
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>Porter is a vet with big game experience. He is also not Josh Wilson, so there's that.

Porter's been on 3 teams in 3 years which isn't a great sign but whatever, I'll take him.

I think they'll have him slated for slot coverage with Deangelo & Amerson on the outside.

  

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164. "Skins Sign Jason Hatcher"
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I think this is a good signing, he was playing the best ball of his career last year, so hopefully he can bring that level of intensity to our line.

I believe its a 4 year 27 mil contract.

Still no safety though.

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165. "Yup."
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I think Ryan Clark left town.

He's over the hill but his veteran presence is sorely needed.

  

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166. "Quick Eval of Roberts, Porter and Sharpton from WaPo"
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excited about roberts! a couple takeaways...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/03/17/closer-looks-at-new-redskins-andre-roberts-tracy-porter-and-daryl-sharpton/?tid=pm_sports_pop

Roberts -
One of the first things that stands out on video is his catching ability. For a receiver listed at just 5 feet 11, Roberts has an impressive catching radius, making good adjustments to the ball even when thrown inaccurately.

Sharpton -
Playing the run isn’t a problem for Sharpton, but I am concerned about his ability to drop in coverage.

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167. "I like the signings but the secondary is still a mess."
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A complete mess.

So I'm not sure what the plan is there.

Also it would be a coup if we could sign Donald Penn to play RT.

  

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168. "why do these fks keep sticking with brandon merriweather?????"
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DAMNIT!

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169. "There's literally no one else!"
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No one else left and no one who's better than him.

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170. "^^^^"
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>No one else left and no one who's better than him.

all true.

dude is still talented. just not consistent. $1m for that aint bad.

also, lets see what p. thomas brings to the table this year. him and porter could be a huge boost to the secondary.

With hatcher up front and the OLBs letting lose, a league average defense is within reach.



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171. "hate this move"
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unless one of the top Safeties in Clinton Dix or Pryor fall to us at pick #34 (I would estimate about a 10% chance of actually happening).

I think we are just maintaining the status quo of an awful secondary.

Thomas has yet to prove a thing due to injury, and Rambo might not even make the team. Iggles gonna put up 50+ on us.

We shall see what scheme changes Haslett has in mind.

  

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172. "Not a long term deal. Can't fix everything this year anyway...."
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173. "I'm convinced no one of substance wanted to come here"
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outside of Hatcher they didn't sign dick.

  

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174. "They are taking baby steps, tho. Contracts for top players were silly."
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I kinda wanted Ginn, but they seem to think roberts is that dude.

the corners and safety contracts were just too much.

they avoided signing deion sanders and bruce smith 2.0. that works for me.


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175. "DJax coming to DC tomorrow"
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this could backfire on the Iggs, and I for one hope it happens. sign him with heavily worded language in his contract about missing meetings and off field behavior. Something similar to what they gave Garcon and along the same lines of what the saints did with Byrd. You know Snyder gonna break the bank for a shiny new toy.

  

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176. "On one hand, he might be an asshole"
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On the other hand, he would make a huge difference.

  

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177. "history has shown small recievers dont work in dc though"
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djax is as explosive as they come but i dont see him and rg3 working well together

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178. "not enthused at all"
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"Roll me further bitch"

  

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179. "an incentive laden deal should be the only offer. "
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a "me first" type dude seems like a bad direction to go in for the new regime, but if you can cut him (kinda like NE did to haynesworth after he left us) then i guess it not the worst idea.

if he wants big money or lots of security, then let someone else deal with the headache.


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180. "He would give the team something that's been missing...but"
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It has to be the right deal.


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181. "I dunno if this is the right org for Desean."
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Might get a little better post Shanny-gate but I feel like this team needs at least one offseason without bad press. Snyder already dominates the news enough. Not only that but this hasn't exactly been the best organization in the world in fostering a completely professional environment while holding players accountable for their actions. Plus like Awburn says, its a bad idea to bring a "me first" type dude in a brand new regime. Look how it worked out for him in Philly.

  

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183. "It's definitely a high risk high reward situation"
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Big damn he would make a huge difference

  

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182. "Had to turn off ESPN980"
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Because they are so anti-Jackson and talking about his gang ties it's crazy. All the callers are like, "We need him, we need a player maker."

And Andy Polly is just spouting the character assassination info the Eagles put out.

Don't say you want to take calls then dismiss every single one that says we should sign him if the price is right.

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184. "See...."
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This shit here is exactly why I wouldn't want Jackson coming here. Any little thing happens to him here, media will get right up on it and try to throw more mud at him. Desean needs to rebuild his image. This ain't the place to do it IMO.

  

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185. "Hell, they still shit on McNabb on a regular here"
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186. "those guys piss me off"
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i had to take a break from 980. seemingly know-it-alls that know
nothing at all. unathletic loser slobs that are given a platform
to enforce their agenda. at least get somebody up there that
has actually PLAYED the game on that level. their opinions are
like assholes to me.

  

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188. "Man he almost had me wanting them to sign jack out of spite"
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And that clown chris russell said he would quit if they signed him.

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192. "Well there is that to look forward to :) Now I want it to happen"
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I think Doc and B Mitch keep it real when it comes to player personnel. I don't think they were on the air yesterday because of opening day.


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196. "I hate Chris Russell with the fire of a thousand suns"
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If he's on the radio, I'm changing the station

<-- Dave Thomas knows what's up...
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187. "Safety Ryan Clark coming back to DC"
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Like it or hate it at least our secondary has been filled THIS year. Still not opposed to drafting one. Gruden and coaches dining with D-Jax tonight. meeting tomorrow in Ashburn.

  

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189. "They did it to fill the void London left"
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I actually like the move alot. He can't really cover ground like he used to, but he's very smart, and will help the young kids in the secondary.

I like the move alot.

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190. "basically."
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Even if he's no longer a decent safety:

1. that still makes him better than any safety on our roster

2. it will fill a huge leadership void, which is something this and other franchises frequently neglect, IMO.

  

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191. "All I am hoping for is that it was on the cheap side. "
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Glad we got him back, even if he is a shell of what he once was, but hopefully we don't overpay him.

  

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193. "He's not a shell, he's just not young anymore"
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Father time is undefeated, dude is still good, just not young anymore.

Hopefulyl a full off season will allow him to recoup and give us one really good year.

He got a 1 year deal as far as I know.

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194. "Solid bandaid solution "
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195. "3. HE DESTROYS PEOPLE"
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197. "Welp its official"
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DeSean Jackson, Redskins agree

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10713327/desean-jackson-agrees-washington-redskins

Tuesday, April 1, 2014
DeSean Jackson, Redskins agree
By John Keim
ESPN.com

Former Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson has agreed with the Washington Redskins. Jackson will join Washington on a three-year deal, sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Jackson took to Twitter to announce the agreement:


Jackson's addition seemed to be a certainty ever since he arrived in northern Virginia late Monday afternoon. He dined with Redskins coaches Monday night, went out with Redskins players Pierre Garcon and DeAngelo Hall later that night and met with team officials Tuesday.


Both players had publicly stated their desire for Jackson to join the Redskins, as had quarterback Robert Griffin III.

"Very exciting player. Determined to show he is the best and hungry to win. My kinda guy," Griffin told ESPN's Britt McHenry.

The Redskins will pair him with a first-time head coach in Jay Gruden. But Gruden worked in Cincinnati with Marvin Lewis, who coaxed production out of players with questionable issues such as cornerback Adam Jones and running back Cedric Benson. Gruden was there with both players.

Jackson gives the Redskins a dynamic playmaker, something they have not had in some time. Jackson has averaged 17.2 yards per catch in his career. The Redskins haven't had a receiver average more than 17.0 yards per catch with at least 50 receptions since Santana Moss in 2005.

No other receiver with that many catches has even hit 15.0 per catch. Only two receivers since 2008 have averaged more yards per catch -- Vincent Jackson and Malcolm Floyd. And only Mike Wallace has as many touchdown receptions (21) of at least 30 yards as Jackson.


But the Eagles did not release him because of his production. He's coming off an 82-catch, 1,332-yard season and nine touchdowns. It tied a career high in touchdowns and established a new one for yards.

Rather, according to reports, they were displeased with his attitude and demeanor. They reportedly did not view him as a good fit in the culture that coach Chip Kelly wants to build.

A story on NJ.com discussed alleged gang connections -- shortly before his release on Friday.

But Jackson issued a statement later that day rebutting that charge: "I would like to make it very clear that I am not and never have been part of any gang. I am not a gang member and to speculate and assume that I am involved in such activity off the field is reckless and irresponsible. I work very hard on and off the field and I am a good person with good values.

"I am proud of the accomplishments that I have made both on and off the field. I have worked tirelessly to give back to my community and have a positive impact on those in need. It is unfortunate that I now have to defend myself and my intentions. These reports are irresponsible and just not true. I look forward to working hard for my new team. God Bless."

Denise White of EAG Sports Management, one of Jackson's representatives, took to Twitter late Tuesday night to congratulate Jackson:




  

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198. "I think it's a smart deal"
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199. "the #s could certainly be worse."
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Gruden has a lot of ego's to manage, but that is the HCs job anyway.

  

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200. "3 year deal worth 24 Mil with 16 guaranteed"
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I'm assuming that this year's contract is 7 being as that's all we have under the cap.

I foresee either some real cutting about to happen, or strong restructering because we haven't even hit the draft yet. As it stands we couldn't sign any of them anyway.

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201. "I'm happy with this move... for now."
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I choose to see this move for what it is, a serious upgrade in talent.

  

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202. "As with most of our moves this could bomb"
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But damn those numbers are like half what I expected them to be. Well done on that part.

  

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203. "Its a conservative contract that suits both sides"
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I'm quite impressed with the Front office on this one.

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204. "Yup. I still don't really like Allen as a GM"
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But one thing he's known for is taking contract talks real slow. That's why Ryan Clark left and then got signed 2 weeks later.

So he was only going to move fast on desean if it was a good contract for the franchise.

  

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207. "So far with Bruce as the GM i don't have a ton of problems"
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I would've love for Mike Mitchell to end up here. I would've loved to have gotten everyone, but it seems like they had a plan and stuck to that plan regardless of how things shook out.

I have to respect it. It looks like stability and planning, something we haven't had. so i'm good with it.

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208. "co-sign"
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210. "yeah it's the drafting I'm worried about."
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that's the most important part of being a GM.

  

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211. "Bingo. "
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Free agency isn't gonna solve everything. Still gotta know how to pick and develop your talent in-house.

  

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212. "I agree with you, i'm hoping the other guys in the room"
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Rocco and nem will help in this fashion as Bruce has always been the cap and Free Agent guy.

We'll see if they can fill out the rest of the roster with quality.

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205. "#OffseasonChamps"
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Even though we're conditioned to be giddy over a signing like this only to be inevitably let down months later, I'm not gonna let that kill my vibe. At all. GREAT DAY

THE REAL QUESTION - What number will D.Jax be rocking and WHEN CAN I BUY A JERSEY

  

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206. "Well technically not the true #OffSeasonChamps..."
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...that honor will go to Denver this offseason. In truth the DJax move is the only big splash thus far. And technically he fell into their lap, they didn't rush out and spend for spending sake.

It definitely is reminiscent of days past, but DJax was too good to pass up at this point, especially since the money doesn't seem too outrageous.

Still not totally confident in the o-Line moves and the secondary, but hopefully they score big in the draft!


<<<---"That's my quarterback!" (c) T.O.

...

my thoughts,

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209. "And just like that!"
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Can the season start tomorrow?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkO0LiYCIAAqO_j.jpg:large


<<<---"That's my quarterback!" (c) T.O.

...

my thoughts,

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213. "Colt McCoy signed as third string................"
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/04/03/redskins-add-third-quarterback-in-colt-mccoy/
______________________________________________________________________________

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"To Each His Reach"

  

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214. "Desean shows up as planned."
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National Media ignores it.

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/6957/desean-jackson-shows-up-for-workouts

  

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215. "sooo... draft thoughts?"
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no one cares? i cant tell if this is a good thing or not.

I'm pleased by the OL picks. Looks like a focus though was also on special teams. Taking players they thought could have an impact over low talent guys at ILB or S who may not actually solve any problems is a W.

The murphy pick is a little weird, but rak stays hurt, and kerrigan was dinged up last year. cutting their snaps and getting raks potential replacement some experience before he needs to start is smart.

  

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216. "Everybody still in Wiz playoff mode"
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including myself. I didn't pay attention to the draft at all unfortunately. Saw they went OL in the second round so that is a good thing. Don't have much to say about it right now but hope and pray they pan out.

Hopefully this coaching staff does something good with these guys. That is all I ask for.

  

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217. "seeing as i waited till that game 4 loss to up this..."
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i totally get that. lol.

but i need to take my mind off of the (eventual series) loss. So skins draft and nats talk it is...

  

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218. "I don't like the OLB/Murphy pick."
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But maybe he becomes a pass rushing force and I'm wrong.

But this team just keeps throwing its first draft pick every year at OLB and it hasn't gotten us anywhere. Certainly hasn't gotten us a good pass rush.

Love the tackle pick (Moses). The guard/center (Long) is risky but could work. Supposedly the DB Breeland has promise. Seastrunk is supposed to have blazing speed. After Forbath's year last year it seems odd to draft a K.

Trading down was smart. Seems like a solid draft.

  

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219. "Some of the weak pass rush has to do w/ switching coaching/schemes"
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>But this team just keeps throwing its first draft pick every
>year at OLB and it hasn't gotten us anywhere. Certainly hasn't
>gotten us a good pass rush.

Its nice to get an OLB that has actually played the his professional position in college.

haslett blames shanny for holding him back schematically. we'll see what happens when he is "unleashed".



  

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220. "my thoughts on Haslett's mediocrity are well known."
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we'll see.

  

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221. "And pretty well documented as well. "
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I'm not buying the excuse but whatever. We shall see.

  

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222. "Ain't that about a bitch! Morocco Brown joins the Brown's Front"
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Office.

That sucks, I was hoping he'd get to grow here..

looks like diversity experiment is over.

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223. "tough loss."
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especially to one of the worst franchises in the league. Not a good look.

This puts more pressure on Snyder and Allen. They're putting their money on Allen's performance. Let's see what he's got.

  

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224. "Hopefully one day he can return as our GM"
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Really Really disappointed in this.

PSN ID: BDiesel

  

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225. "he's obviously somewhat popular around the league"
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truthfully, I wouldn't recognize Morocco Brown if he sat on my lap. But he keeps getting GM looks, and that should've told Allen and company that they had an asset on their hands. Shame.

  

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226. "Jay Gruden strategies for using Jordan Reed "
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I like these posts from Mark Bullock highlighting potential strengths and weaknesses of players and schemes. His latest one is about potential uses for Jordan Reed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/07/09/how-jay-gruden-can-use-jordan-reed-to-create-mismatches/

This offense should be very, very good in the fall.

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227. "i saw that, and the fact that he's the only Legit Tall receiver we have"
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Yea they've got to find new ways to get him the ball.

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228. "Man, I hope Tanard Jackson gets the help he needs"
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I wrote him off for the team a long time ago, but I wish him well.

  

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229. "Dog, I read it at first like "Why they bringing up a year old article""
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OHHHHHHH.............

Dude is done, this has to be about his 8 failed test at this point.

i think its all for weed too, so I hope he can get himself straight because right now he's ruining his chances

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230. "up for the preseason..."
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so we got whooped by the pats for three days of scrimmages....

still looking forward to tomorrows game against the pats.

wanna see how some guys look:
bob
keenan robinson
amerson
murphy
baker
all the young rbs and special teams guys.

who are yall checking for?


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232. "Yeah, curious about the defense."
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Jenkins, Amerson. Perry Riley has supposedly had a good camp so far.

Would be nice if Philip Thomas or Bacarri Rambo pan out.

The offense is pretty much set. Keim says nobody is going to displace Polumbus to start the season. He said maybe by mid-season or next year.

So I'm glad they drafted some OL, but realistically the right side of the line is still going to be a liability.

  

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233. "Wanna see if Rambo is as bad as people are saying. "
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Biggest thing with him was poor tackling, and I've heard he hasn't made much progress.

Plus the linebackers have said that they've been "unleashed" so wanna see how that works out.
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231. "Anyone else find the "RG3, RG3, RG3" chant awkward?"
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I like our quarterback as much as the next guy, and it was pretty cool to hear the first few times when he made some exciting plays here and there, or when he was first drafted but...


Now people just start chanting it at the most random times and most mundane of actions. It just really sounds forced like we as a fanbase don't know what's it's like to have a top QB/player in the league that we gotta start chanting it when he's not even doing anything that spectacular.

Just curious if any of you noticed it as well. I find it weird and awkward whenever I hear it now.

  

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234. "its great how gruden repeatedly tries to check all that when he can"
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fans are gonna do what they do... but whenever press conferences or interviews skew too much toward bob, Gruden swings it back the team.

I support RG3 getting as much money as he can from endorsements. but when it comes to football, he's gotta be team first. He talked about learning from brady, well, during a football interview you'd never know Brady was in GOAT conversations. its not about him and his leadership. its all about getting better as a team and other bs cliches.

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235. "quick pats game thoughts"
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rak looks hungry. like he actually got a holding call in addition to that sack. not sure if that was the starting LT for NE or not. Trent Murphy was eh, but it was interesting to see him, rak and ryan with one DT on long 3rd downs.

i'll reserve judgement on bob, but i liked seeing him stay in the pocket, dump off the ball and take the easy plays.

Kai cannot be the only kicker on the roster. either you keep the other guy or both, but the ball has to be kicked further than the 5 yard line on kickoffs.

good lord, the running game looks good already. gruden would have been an idiot to change something that wasnt broken.

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236. "RE: quick pats game thoughts"
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>rak looks hungry. like he actually got a holding call in
>addition to that sack. not sure if that was the starting LT
>for NE or not.

It was their starter. Big year from Rak would be huge.

>
>Kai cannot be the only kicker on the roster. either you keep
>the other guy or both, but the ball has to be kicked further
>than the 5 yard line on kickoffs.

I'm curious what they're going to do. Kai so good on FGs and so bad on KOs.

>
>good lord, the running game looks good already. gruden would
>have been an idiot to change something that wasnt broken.

Everything I've read says Gruden is basically keeping the running game intact, maybe adding a little more traditional block to go with the zone blocking, but Gruden knows what's up.

I can't remember if it was a lineman or a RB who said the run game has been good so far because it's so similar to last year, in terminology and strategy.

  

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237. "the return of kyle shanny aka snooze bowl"
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the browns defense is better than folks think, so not scoring on them in preseason isnt a big deal imo.

other than the pick (to haden's side, cmon bob) rg showed some growth. he had poor blocking but stayed in the pocket and tried to keep his eyes downfield. he was making quick reads. its gonna take some time, but you can see signs of development.

ryan grant might become the first home grown WR that we actually develop into a competent WR since the 80's.

defensively, they played like they should against an inferior offense. breeland looks like a 4th round W.

  

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245. "loving Ryan Grant"
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looking forward to his future.

  

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238. "Was at the Browns game last night"
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Up in the nosebleeds (for the first time... you get a pretty good view of everything up there)

Anyway,some of my thoughts...

I think the biggest thing that RG needs to learn to do is discover throwing the ball away. I couldn't even count the times (I don't think he did last night) that that's even an option for him in his head. It's either...

1. make a completion
2. make a completion (get hit at the last second)
3. scramble, make a completion, and then get hit
4. scramble, scramble, and then scramble some more... then get hit.
5. or, take off and get BLASTED!

He needs to seriously develop the ability to "give up" on a play (no HERO Ball, seriously), and get the ball out of his hands and then reset the offense on the next down. It's an important skill that the elite quarterbacks have that is lacking in his game that will get his career cut short.

The offense, as a whole moved the ball a bit, but didn't seem to have rhythm. That could really all be preseason, but they definitely have some things to work on.

The defense looked solid, for the most part. We are building depth, and really, that's the main positive on that side of the ball. Kerrigan looks like he's ready for the season, and I like the Breeland kid a lot. He had some great HARD tackles out there, one in particular reminded me of Sean where he got to the offensive player right as the ball got there, made the hit and dislodged the ball.Nice!

Looking forward to seeing the first team offense for an extended period against the Ravens coming up.



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239. "I think that's always a challenge for young QBs"
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>I think the biggest thing that RG needs to learn to do is
>discover throwing the ball away.

And I think he'll learn. I just hope he doesn't get killed again before it happens.

I think this year is going to say a lot about his career path. I think both he and Gruden are on the same page that he has to be a pocket-first QB. So I think Bob is going to focus on that and there is going to be a learning curve this year while he transitions.

I'm looking for pocket development out of him this year so I won't be mad at all if he doesn't put up numbers or if he's inconsistent.

I think on paper he's going to struggle as he adjusts to a more traditional game, and the media/opposing-fans hot air is going to once again hit fevered heights, writing him off and shit.

But personally, I'll be fine with it. I'm more nervous about whether Gruden is a legit coach than I am about Bob.

For the franchise's sake, we really need both of them to shine together.

  

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240. "Is it time for a new post?"
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I was just thinking.

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243. "Yeah I don't know"
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we're already over halfway through preseason. Figure maybe just wait for a season post in like 2 weeks?

  

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247. "yeah, that is why i just up this one"
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start a new one for game 1.
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248. "That'll work"
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So be on the loook out for that Washington Professional Football team post in a few weeks.

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241. "Man, *skins fans "as a whole" dissapoing me"
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I still cannot believe the number of folks calling into 980 saying RGIII is a bust and we should turn the team over to Cousins. What are these folks seeing that I'm not. When Cousins played last year he didn't set the world on fire and he proved he turns the ball over way too much.

RGIII went 6-8 last night and made one bad throw. The other incompletion should have been caught by Jackson on that slant, it bounced right off his hands.

I love listening to Doc Walker so it might be hard for me to stop listening during the season but might have to do it.


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244. "Yeah I can't listen to talk radio"
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or call in radio.

There are fans who will never be satisfied until a player wins 12 MVPs and 6 super bowls.

  

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249. "its wild..."
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I said today I was going to stop listening to both stations except for 2 oclock when Doc comes on. But then Bmitch talks too damn much.

I make it a point to comment on both 980's and 106.7's fb pages when they get to talkin crazy.

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242. "RE: I think that's always a challenge for young QBs"
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>I'm looking for pocket development out of him this year so I
>won't be mad at all if he doesn't put up numbers or if he's
>inconsistent.

Definitely agree here. Not looking for stats to be though the roof. I want to see him personally grow as a quarterback first, but also see this offense grow into an actual NFL offense.

>
>I think on paper he's going to struggle as he adjusts to a
>more traditional game, and the media/opposing-fans hot air is
>going to once again hit fevered heights, writing him off and
>shit.

Definitely getting annoyed with the media/fans that basically ready to give up on Bob, conveniently forgetting what we actually gave up for him and the fact that this is the BEGINNING of his third year coupled with the fact that we have a NEW offense (which is never a good thing, as sk*ns fans should know all too well) and he's coming off of an injury/controversy-plagued season.

>
>But personally, I'll be fine with it. I'm more nervous about
>whether Gruden is a legit coach than I am about Bob.
>
>For the franchise's sake, we really need both of them to shine
>together.

Agreed. Gruden definitely needs to show and prove...



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246. "if ThreeStacks gets hurt trying to stretch a play out "
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or trying to gain an extra 2 yards instead of going out of bounds in the pre-season, I am gonna lose my faith in him. When is he going to learn how to slide? It really has gotten beyond cringe-worthy. He says all the right things and then exposes himself to getting pummeled? I really hope he develops as a pocket passer, because while I use to get excited when he tucked the ball and ran, now it is the complete opposite as I gawk in horror of what could happen because he STILL thinks he is invincible. He needs to learn better awareness in bad way.

  

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250. "Young "
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Robert need to chill a bit on these plays in preseason. I don't like seeing him go so hard for a first down in preseason. Its just preseason and your job is not in question.

I will say....I saw Baccari Rambo make some decent plays out there. He almost looks like a different player. He definitely looks more comfortable.

Kerrigan trying to steal Orakpo's money. I ain't too mad at him for that.

  

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251. "Keim and the vets say it's night and day"
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Yesterday Keim mentioned that he thinks Ryan Clark has helped Rambo a lot.

Great to see. It would be huge if he and/or P.Thomas could pan out.

Morgan Moses is supposedly improving too. Keim doesn't think he'll start this year, but he's got the physical tools and coaches say he is learning well.

Developing mid/late round draft picks has maybe been this team's biggest problem over the past decade. Changing it would be huge.

  

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252. "lets be honest, cousins should be the Game 1 starter"
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....if were skins playing every game this year against 2nd/3rd stringers and guys who will be out of the league in two weeks.

Cuz will look good against the bucs' backups and folks will continue to forget how completely pedestrian he looked against actual starters last year.

I dont doubt that Gruden could turn cousins into a competent system qb. he makes quick decisions against vanilla defenses and can compensate for his average arm strength by quickly identifying and taking advantage of mismatches.

But by the end of this season, once he gets the offense under his belt, rg3 will be a demonstrably better qb than cousins who is not nearly as talented and has a much lower ceiling. joe t. ran off at the mouth and gave credence to some nonsense.

  

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253. "lol"
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I laughed at your subj.

But yeah.

Cousins is a good back up and mediocre-at-best starter who proved how shitty he is last year against THREE weak-ass defenses in a row.

If your goal is to become a winning franchise, you take your growing pains with RG3, who's got all the potential in the world.

If you want to keep being a laughingstock, by all means, start Cousins.

Related:

We need to ready ourselves for the fact that Bob is going to struggle this year. A lot, I think. Adjusting to a new coach but more importantly becoming a pocket QB.

But this is a growing year he needs and the rewards a year from now could be limitless.

The important thing is not to jump ship when a third year QB struggles. Bob is not Christian Ponder or Blaine Gabbert.

  

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254. "cosign on everything"
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>If your goal is to become a winning franchise, you take your
>growing pains with RG3, who's got all the potential in the
>world.
>
>If you want to keep being a laughingstock, by all means, start
>Cousins.
>
>Related:
>
>We need to ready ourselves for the fact that Bob is going to
>struggle this year. A lot, I think. Adjusting to a new coach
>but more importantly becoming a pocket QB.
>
>But this is a growing year he needs and the rewards a year
>from now could be limitless.
>
>The important thing is not to jump ship when a third year QB
>struggles. Bob is not Christian Ponder or Blaine Gabbert.

i am really interested to see how well Gruden can minimize Bob's weaknesses with the running game and play action. The passing game wont be as good as i'd hoped out of the gate, but its still too talented to be average for long given the right coaching.


  

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257. "yup"
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>but its still too talented to be average for long given the right coaching.

  

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255. "Am I the only one who thinks the running game looks a little weak?"
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Not really weak though but not at its best? Could be me jumping to conclusions....

  

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256. "honestly I haven't watched pre-season"
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but Keim said it's been looking good and Gruden has said he's basically not changing anything. Players have said how comfortable they are because the run game is so similar.

I see it being pretty good, maybe better than last year considering all the circus bullshit will be gone.

  

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260. "its hasnt looked dominant, but i think they were working out kinks"
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against good defenses. with the new LG and lots of young unknowns as backups i am still confident that the starters will do their thing.

The right side of the line is still a weak spot that they will have to account for but i think they will be okay with a game plan and much more ALF.



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258. "Bob called it a year early: Operation Patience"
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The slogan still applies. Like mentioned above, if you want to continue to be a laughingstock in this league, go ahead and bail on your franchise qb at the start of his third season.

You spent all of those picks for him, develop your DAMN quarterback! It's what credible franchises do. Let's take a quarterback like Eli Manning, who I never really liked, nor thought he ever has lived up to the hype of being an elite quarterback and who probably isn't the best example to compare Bob to, but for demonstrations sake...

First 3 years in the league (as part of a MUCH BETTER ORGANIZATION), coming in as a No.1/No.1...

Year 1: Started 7 Games
48% | 1,043 yds. | 6/9 td/int.

Year 2: Started 16 Games
52% | 3,762 yds. | 24/17 td/int.

Year 3: Started 16 Games
57% | 3,244 yds | 24/18 td/int.

Year 4: Started 16 Games
56% | 3,336 yds | 23/20 td/int.

These numbers were pedestrian, at best, particularly looking at the completion percentage and the number of interceptions being thrown. But the Giants were developing him, and more importantly continuing to build the team around him through the draft. In year 4, they end up going to the Super Bowl, on the strength of a defense that dismantled one of the greatest offenses/regular season team in NFL history. And this is without Eli missing ANY time with a devastating injury.

The key difference, was they knew they had their franchise quarterback, didn't draft another QB high in the same draft to fuck with his development and constantly compare him too. in fact, they didn't draft another quarterback until four years later (after they won the Super Bowl), Andre Woodson in the 6th round.

The Sk*ns stay on that unconventional ish that NEVER works out, like drafting another QB the same draft you pick up your quarterback of the future. They should fire Shanahan right at that moment, and save A LOT of unnecessary drama/BS...

Operation Patience, my friend...


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my thoughts,

peace.

  

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259. "yeah, sheli and brees come to mind as comparably late bloomers"
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bob could be on track for that kind of success and hopefully be better than sheli has ever been... if they stick with him.

I'd trade cousins ASAP if bob could slide. but the dude can't so he's gonna have to deal with the "controversy" drama.

At least Gruden has done what he can to shut the noise down.

Bruce or Dan gotta speak with Joe T though. They cant have team employees adding gas to small fires...



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262. "basically..."
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>The Sk*ns stay on that unconventional ish that NEVER works
>out, like drafting another QB the same draft you pick up your
>quarterback of the future. They should fire Shanahan right at
>that moment, and save A LOT of unnecessary drama/BS...

the Cousins drama is much of Washington's own doing (they didn't have any more pressing needs at that point in the draft?). quarterback depth is overrated; if any of the top teams lost their franchise signal-caller their season/postseason is basically fucked anyway.

without Cousins Washington doesn't make the 2012 playoffs, so there's that, but in the long run it's been more of a hassle than anything. which is what I saw coming from the start (hi smuts)...

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263. "did someone doubt there are idiots out there?"
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I didn't.

>there's that, but in the long run it's been more of a hassle
>than anything. which is what I saw coming from the start (hi
>smuts)...

  

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261. "Just so we're all on the same page"
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- Griff is not yet a polish pocket passer and won't be for a while, that's ok but he needs to be better than he has been. Also I'm acknowledging that this is the pre-season and there's been no game planning and no real show of what they'll run on the offense.

- I think Al needs those gloves

- Bashaud Breeland has been the youngster that's impressed me the most. He hits hard and plays fast. He should be a player as time goes on.

- O line mixed with a Griff holding the ball too long might make for a long season. Running the ball they look fine though.

- I'm looking forward to football starting for real.

- I'm tired of the 3rd stringers and guys who won't ever make a team taking up all the time.

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264. "There's just no way this is the offense so I'm not trippin "
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No way he's this poor of a passer
No way Gruden is that ignorant of Griffin's strengths

  

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265. "That's why I'm sitting back w/ a Kool-Aid grin"
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At the folks saying we need to see what we can get from the Rams for RGIII and the Cousins is the "real" franchise QB. I even heard one of the most racial coded calls on the manner today.

Here are some things these folks aren't noticing:
- The offense with RGIII is super vanilla. They're not even doing roll outs or boots.
- The passing game when RGIII is in is focusing on the deep game for timing (Cooley pointed this out saying when Cousins is in the game the offense is being focused on the short and underneath throws.)
- Cousins is passing a lot more because they're trying to increase his value again after his playing time last season exposed him as turnover prone.

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266. "this is where I am"
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>- Griff is not yet a polish pocket passer and won't be for a
>while, that's ok but he needs to be better than he has been.

I laugh off any talk that Cousins should be #1, but that doesn't negate the fact that RGIII was horrific on Saturday night... I don't buy the gameplan thing either, because Robert had a couple of catastrophic short passes as well, one picked and the other should have been a pick-6.

  

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