More people for Snyder to ignore.

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/11/d-c-council-to-debate-redskins-name-resolution-96424.html

D.C. Council approves Redskins name change resolution
By The Associated Press November 5, 2013 - 07:05 am

WASHINGTON (WJLA) - For the second time in its history, the D.C. Council has called on the Washington Redskins to change their nickname.

By a 10-0 vote, the council approved a resolution Tuesday urging the team to abandon the nickname, which some consider offensive to Native Americans. One member abstained, and two were absent.

The council has no power over the team, which plays its home games in Maryland and has its training facility in Virginia. It previously called for a name change in 2001.

The Oneida Nation, which is leading the campaign to pressure the Redskins to change its name, issued a statement after the council vote praising the elected officials.

"the D.C. City Council has placed itself firmly on the side of those who believe there should be no place for institutionalized racism within the National Football League," according to the statement. "This City Council resolution is yet another call for Washington's team owner to do the right thing by halting the callous use of the R-word and moving the team in a positive direction away from its past legacy of racial bigotry."

President Barack Obama said recently that he would consider changing the name if he owned the team. Redskins owner Daniel Snyder has called the name "a badge of honor" but said he respects the feelings of those who are offended.

There was no debate on the name change in the council because it's barely controversial at the council.

"We can clearly that changing this racist and derogatory resonates with the people,” says councilmember David Grosso.

Councilmembers Yvette Alexander voted “present” and Vincent Orange disappeared before the vote.

The Redskins web site was still urging fans to express their opposition.

And before Orange disappeared, he introduce a bill for a new redskins stadium in D.C., adding, "I think we have a lot of opportunity and I don't think we should blow it."

Yet in the council meeting, Jay Winter Nightwolf, a WPFW radio personality who said he's a Native American came in chief garb

"This to us is a racist term and it should have been gone a long time ago," he said.

Councilman Kenyan McDuffie said it's a matter of time.

"Ultimately, the name is going to change,” he said.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.
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when Snyder ups his attempts to move the team back to DC.

He knows FedEx and RalJon suck and he's vain so he wants to be in DC. In the city.

I'm almost enjoying Snyder holding out on the name change.

The name *IS* going to change sooner rather than later, and the more he digs himself in, the worse he looks.

We all know he is a slime ball. This is a situation he won't be able to save face on either.

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when their racist-ass owner was the last holdout.

George Preston Marshall was a Bigot in the worst way. He was probably the most racist owner in sports. Meanwhile The Cowboys had black players from day 1. Hence why there's so many old cowboys fans in this city.

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>George Preston Marshall was a Bigot in the worst way.

He *totally* picked the name Redskins as a sign of respect.

saying "what's the big deal, it's not disrespectful, not all Native Americans are opposed to it" is their lack of HISTORY. the old fight song WAS:

Hail to the Redskins!
Hail, victory!
Braves on the warpath!
Fight for Old D.C.!
Scalp 'em, swamp 'um
We will take 'um big score
Read 'um, Weep 'um, touchdown
We want heap more
Fight on, fight on, till you have won
Sons of Washington
Rah! Rah! Rah!



add to that the team's racist conduct, denying Bobby Mitchell the GM job AND being the last team to add a black player. i don't have a true dog in this fight and don't lose sleep over it, but those denying its offensiveness and defending its place are frighteningly ignorant. Some of whom I'd expect more from, to be honest.



>>George Preston Marshall was a Bigot in the worst way.
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>He *totally* picked the name Redskins as a sign of respect.
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instead of "fight for old D.C."

also anyone who cites that Native Americans don't care is misrepresenting what that means.

Just because people have bigger concerns in their lives than a stupid football team, doesn't mean the name isn't racist.

>instead of "fight for old D.C."
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oh yeah that's right Dixie I forgot to add LOLOLOL

I'm especially disappointed in the black people who ignorantly espouse these views. At least KNOW better before you try to downplay the shit.

>I'm especially disappointed in the black people who ignorantly
>espouse these views. At least KNOW better before you try to
>downplay the shit.

so they have authority on the matter...apparently

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one of the DC council members used that to illustrate the mentality of anti-name-changers

its pretty basic: their emotional attachment to the name is more important than common sense & decency

ive seen it all though, most arguments they have have a VERY right winger tone ... ive seen "liberals" betray their own way of thinking bc they are so emotional about the issue, wildly contorting logic in the manner of Fox News to label pro-name-changers the "real racists" for "telling Indians how to think", the lack of logic is astounding

one guy tweeted "how will any Indians lives get better if the name changes" so i hit him w/ articles from psychology today about studies on how mascots effect self esteem...crickets

then of course there are the "why dont you find another team if youre offended or offensive" and the "youre not a true fan"

the idiots who say they'll quit the team if the name is changed gotta be the nuttiest of the bunch tho

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>One guy tweeted "how will any Indians lives get better if the
>name changes" so i hit him w/ articles from psychology today
>about studies on how mascots effect self esteem...crickets
>

Should I give them a cookie?

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when in fact they've forced change with this very franchise.

and you've got your George's mixed up I think.

Nobody's arguing that Snyder's not in control.

However it is not accurate to claim that government officials don't influence what happens with this team.

It's not their job to FORCE a private business to change their name.

And George Wallace was the governor of Alabama who gave us this gem:

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."

When we talk about racism a lot time we forget to talk about it was politicians causing the problem including the KKK which was apart of Democratic Party.

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this little provision called the 3/5 clause would beg to differ with you

>When we talk about racism a lot time we forget to talk about
>it was politicians causing the problem including the KKK which
>was apart of Democratic Party.
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>When we talk about racism a lot time we forget to talk about it was politicians causing the
>problem including the KKK which was apart of Democratic Party.

I sincerely hope nobody forgets politicians, jim crow, segregation, and the shit that's still happening today like Bloomberg and Stop and Frisk.

And I don't share libertarian views about the role of gov to fix awful things that private entities do so we'll just have to disagree on that one.

you're trying to shoehorn an agenda into this situation that doesn't fit

& the DC gov't (a LOCAL gov't) absolutely CAN force a name change if dipshit dan wants to have the team play in city limits

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>It's not their job to FORCE a private business to change
>their name.

then yeah it kinda is.

>When we talk about racism a lot time we forget to talk about
>it was politicians causing the problem including the KKK which
>was apart of Democratic Party.

good grief.

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to take hundreds of millions in public financing for their almost entirely privately profitable stadiums?

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you could argue that the with a VA county being the official "corporate home" of the team for marketing purposes, they've endorsed the name as is.

The stadium lease is up in 2027. The team practices in VA.

DC taking a stand does mean something politically and financially for the city.

Jack KEnt Cooke built the stadium with his own money and Snyder eventually bought it along with the rest of the team.

I think some of the financial incentives that JKC got to build the stadium in Maryland run out in another 10 years or so... plus, at that point, the stadium will likely be considered obsolete since it'll be 30 years old.

I think Snyder WANTS DC... but he'll likely play "Who want to build me a stadium ?!?!" when the time's right.

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"Team general counsel Dave Donovan said the Redskins are legally bound to FedEx Field until 2027 because of agreement between the team, the state of Maryland and Prince George’s County, and said the team has expressed no interest in leaving the Landover facility at least until then."

The land has appreciated so much since snyder bought the team, as soon as he can leave he prolly will. especially if va or dc support the stadium costs.

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http://www.theonion.com/articles/redskins-kike-owner-refuses-to-change-teams-offens,34292/

Redskins’ Kike Owner Refuses To Change Team’s Offensive Name

WASHINGTON—Denying widespread claims that the franchise is being offensive or disrespectful, the Washington Redskins’ kike owner announced Monday that he remains steadfast in his refusal to change the team’s derogatory name. “The Redskins represent 81 years of great history and tradition, and it’s a source of pride for our fans,” said the hook-nosed kike, stressing that the team’s insulting moniker is “absolutely not a racial slur by any means.” “‘Washington Redskins’ is much more than just a name. It stands for strength, courage, and respect—the very values that are so intrinsic to Native American culture.” The shifty-eyed hebe went on to assure fans that he will do “everything in his power” to preserve the team’s proud heritage

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-redskins-name-only-offensive-if-you-think-a,33449/

http://www.theonion.com/articles/washington-redskins-change-their-name-to-the-dc-re,34161/

that's a bad fucking joke. i get what they were trying to do, but it failed miserably.

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leaving aside that, for me, it might be worse (clouded by my being jewish, but then again, so is the reaction of non-jews), that's not relevant or interesting or useful.

neither joke was even CLOSE to being acceptable. whichever was worse is an unnecessary thought experiment.

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for some "white" dude to act like HE can speak on what the fuck is honoring an almost extinct population just because he derives boatloads of money from a likeness is absolutely motherfucking unacceptable.

THAT he is Jewish further underscores that HE should be more sensitive to the issue.

so yeah, as a black man, I'm good with that shit. through and through. would be fine if they made it "darkies" or "monkeys" too.

the ONLY group that has more claim to getting fucked the fucked up on this terrain than blacks are Native Americans.


>leaving aside that, for me, it might be worse (clouded by my
>being jewish, but then again, so is the reaction of non-jews),
>that's not relevant or interesting or useful.
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>neither joke was even CLOSE to being acceptable. whichever was
>worse is an unnecessary thought experiment.
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>It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.
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I recently watched a documentary on the seminoles

and how they were forced out of Florida (well, attempted to be forced out anyway)

contrasted with the FSU/MIA game and the whole pre-game throw a spear in the ground thing...

I can't imagine any native people are FOR having mascots named after them

just my opinion though

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but I give the entire thing the side-eye.

the Seminole tribe gets dough every year for the usage of that name and happy arm chop and chant.

They sitting on mils each year, so they good.

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University Illinois changed their mascot, FSU pays the Seminole nation a nice chunk each year. So the Seminoles are good.

I'ma look for it.

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writing lil op ed's
and jokingly calling the team Racists
is cute and all
but ain't really moving the needle
this shit has been a topic for well over a decade now and has been a relatively intense one the last 2-3 yrs
synder, goodell, and the owners are just stiff arming the issue and counting up the profits as the same ppl complaining tune in every Sunday
at what point is real pressure put on the nfl to do something

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to play a scheduled game with the Skins

where i said if Dan was smart he'd realize now is the time to change the name?

he shoulda listened (he lurks here of course, or one of his legal team lol), the issue would be dead & buried already

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