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bentagain
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"Poll question: How do we feel about players sitting out?"


  

          

I can understand if you're legit injured, doctors haven't cleared you, etc...

but MFers are really sitting the 2nd game of the season?

WTF

Pop got fined for this mess right?

then DRose sits a season

now Rondo might sit the season

Nerlens too...

is this cool with ya'll?

Poll result (7 votes)
That's some bullshit, I have to go to work everyday (0 votes)Vote
That's some bullshit, I paid for tix, got my jersey on, and you're at home (0 votes)Vote
That's some bullshit, They only play here once a year, how am I suppose to keep tabs on my agenda (0 votes)Vote
I'm cool with it (7 votes)Vote

  

  

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the first half of the NBA season barely matters
Oct 31st 2013
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RE: as long as there is an 82 game season and you got back to
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      alot more teams are chip or bust tho.
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pop got fined for not notifying the league and media properly
Oct 31st 2013
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cmon, let's not be naive about this
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      but thats my point, if pop followed whatever notification guidelines
Oct 31st 2013
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           yeah, but just because stern thinks it's a big deal
Oct 31st 2013
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           i agree with all of that..not sure what we're arguing
Oct 31st 2013
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           it's stern man, he'd have found a way
Oct 31st 2013
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                that part is true...although the spurs could have fought it
Oct 31st 2013
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it's another form of coasting
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Who said Rondo might sit the season?
Oct 31st 2013
6
Nobody, but now with the sit out a season because we aren't
Oct 31st 2013
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bentagain
Oct 31st 2013
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Ross, Rondo, and Noel each had ACL tears, they should be prudent
Oct 31st 2013
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If I was an agent, I'd have Brandon Roy as a case study
Oct 31st 2013
8
Totally agreed, but this doesn't feel like that
Oct 31st 2013
9
I thought this was a Clowney post and was ready to hate.
Oct 31st 2013
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too many players rush back only to fuck themselves up.
Oct 31st 2013
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players, agents, and franchises have learned
Oct 31st 2013
18
You forgot the headliner (and saddest imo): G Hill
Oct 31st 2013
21
Thats why the NBA needs to go to a 50 game schedule.....
Oct 31st 2013
22

BullShit
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1. "the first half of the NBA season barely matters"
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it's all about ramping up for and performing in the playoffs.

as long as there is an 82 game season and you got back to backs and 3 games in 4 nights, that's how it's gonna be.

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bentagain
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3. "RE: as long as there is an 82 game season and you got back to"
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backs and 3 games in 4 nights, that's how it's gonna be"

hasn't that always been the schedule though

I don't remember teams always doing this

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Cenario
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5. "alot more teams are chip or bust tho. "
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Thu Oct-31-13 11:59 AM by Cenario

  

          

bostons big 3 and now lebron/Miami really changed the game. You either playing for a chip or not (or a young team learning the ropes)

Winning 50 games or winning 55 games in the reg season really isn't that big of a deal if its at the expense of your players health.

That's my opinion on it at least..teams following the Pop model.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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Cenario
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2. "pop got fined for not notifying the league and media properly"
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saying he got fined for resting players is more juicy though which is why the media ran with it.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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11. "cmon, let's not be naive about this"
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>saying he got fined for resting players is more juicy though
>which is why the media ran with it.

not notifying is the reason they COULD fine him, not the reason they DID fine him. stern was pissed because it was a nationally televised game against the heat and he sent them home (still not sure why that was an issue). his statement said it was "a disservice to the league and the fans". does that sound like it's just about notification?

  

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Cenario
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15. "but thats my point, if pop followed whatever notification guidelines"
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Thu Oct-31-13 01:58 PM by Cenario

  

          

There were, there'd be no fine.

So no, pop didnt 'get fined for this mess' bc resting players is not gainst the rules.

If we gonna be real about it, stern fined pop bc pop resting the players was an f u to stern and the league lol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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16. "yeah, but just because stern thinks it's a big deal"
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doesn't mean it is. pop wouldn't just "throw" a game away to fuck with someone (in quotes because they didn't lay down, they almost won), he legitimately thought these guys could use the rest at the end of a tough stretch. he'd probably argue it's best for the team and league in the long run. as those two teams met up again for a great finals series, i'd say pop won that argument and stern looked dumb.

  

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17. "i agree with all of that..not sure what we're arguing"
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pops fu to the league was bc san an was pitted @ miami for a marquee game at the end of a road trip...so pop does what he does every year, strategically rest his players.

I wasn't saying pop did it simply to screw stern and no he wouldn't and doesn't throw games. The f u part was the lack of notification. He knew that his big guns would be sitting that game out once the schedule was released.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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19. "it's stern man, he'd have found a way"
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If Stern's embarrassed, stern finds a way to fine someone or embarrass them or get them back. this was just the bureaucratic means for doing so.

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20. "that part is true...although the spurs could have fought it"
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don't know what the process would have been.

in any event, my point is just that the crux of the matter was the notification or lack thereof.

that was the fu to to the league AND the part that broke the rules.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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4. "it's another form of coasting"
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i'd rather cats play and just decrease the minutes
resting dudes 2nd game of the season , back to back or not, seems kinda extra from an old school pov
it's the way it is now though and probably ain't going change
so i'll just give props to the dudes who play thru minor injuries like kobe,bron, dwillz etc

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6. "Who said Rondo might sit the season?"
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bentagain
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10. "Nobody, but now with the sit out a season because we aren't"
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winning a chip option

it is a question that is being raised

should Rondo come back for what looks like a lottery BOS roster w/o him

or play, if he's ready this year, and probably cost BOS ping pong balls

this is the NBA today

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12. "bentagain"
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7. "Ross, Rondo, and Noel each had ACL tears, they should be prudent "
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It's pretty silly to me that the timetable for ACL recovery has suddenly morphed from 1 to 1.5 years to like 6 months....based on a handful of outliers. These guys owe it to themselves to take the proper amount of time to be fully healthy in order to not only reduce potential for re-injury but perhaps even moreso, reduce the risk for injuries arising from over-compensation (for example, there is oodles of data regarding individuals with leg injuries who eventually have problems with the other leg because their weight distribution/gait is now uneven).

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8. "If I was an agent, I'd have Brandon Roy as a case study"
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for any star player that wanted to play through major injuries or come back early.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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9. "Totally agreed, but this doesn't feel like that"
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Thu Oct-31-13 01:12 PM by bentagain

  

          

this feels like teams are going to choose not to play guys

that are medically cleared

because winning games is almost a disservice, and costs them ping pong balls

if, as you alluded to, medical evidence supports guys with these injuries needing to miss entire calendar years or more, etc...

cool, I can handle that

but guys sitting on the sideline because they don't think it's worth the effort to play for a sub-chip squad

FOH

IDK, for me, I hope it doesn't become a problem

as a 6ers fan, it truly is incredible the advancements we've made in medicine

the Kangaroo Kid's career ended because of a knee injury

I heard an interview where he recalled having the doc look at his knee

and the prognosis was, your career is over

i.e., there weren't procedures for repairing that type of injury

now guys aren't even missing entire seasons

cray

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13. "I thought this was a Clowney post and was ready to hate. "
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14. "too many players rush back only to fuck themselves up."
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and then we say "he shoulda waited". this isn't a real issue. the only problem i had with rose, and really this is more a problem with adidas, is his comeback was hyped up as if it would happen last season. maybe he really believed that, because his natural instinct seems to be to rush back, and then he realized he should be more cautious.

  

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18. "players, agents, and franchises have learned "
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penny, gilbert, t-mac, francis, etc taught this generation a lot when it comes to trying yo fulfill your potential.

  

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21. "You forgot the headliner (and saddest imo): G Hill "
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Just a damn shame...he woulda been an all-timer.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

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22. "Thats why the NBA needs to go to a 50 game schedule....."
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at the most 60, 82 games is too long of a season.....




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