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abstractionism
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"Poll question: So is AI a first ballot hall of famer?"


          

kinda teared up during his retirement press conference

Poll result (27 votes)
yes (24 votes)Vote
no (3 votes)Vote

  

  

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you must be bored...
Oct 30th 2013
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He has another press conference? Dude is on Mary J. Blige status
Oct 30th 2013
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AI hasn't actually spoken to the media this entire calendar year
Oct 30th 2013
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he never does pressers, actually, and youre just conflating shit u read
Oct 30th 2013
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It's not even a question
Oct 30th 2013
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why wont you die, zombie horse? just dieeeeee nm
Oct 30th 2013
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I doubt anyone denies this, regardless of how they feel about him.
Oct 30th 2013
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Watching this press conference is truly making me sad
Oct 30th 2013
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Accordin to O_E no cuz ppl who admire him hate puppies n kids
Oct 30th 2013
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lol, why you trying to get Bomb riled up again?
Oct 30th 2013
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RE: lol, why you trying to get Bomb riled up again?
Oct 30th 2013
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easily, even if Stern and the NBA Hate his imagery
Oct 30th 2013
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DA GAWD
Oct 30th 2013
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dts
Oct 30th 2013
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without a doubt
Oct 30th 2013
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Top 3 all-time, maybe GOAT
Oct 30th 2013
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Can't lie, that press conference was moving.
Oct 30th 2013
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It's why he's beloved, but McNaab is appreciated.
Oct 30th 2013
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it could also be that AI was just better & played better in big moments
Oct 30th 2013
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Naw McNabb knew how to answer questions and not give you anything
Oct 30th 2013
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      McNabb isn't actually that sharp, he's had decades of media-training
Oct 30th 2013
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           Naw he made philly media and you mad
Oct 30th 2013
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           didn't make me mad, I was McNabb's biggest fan on these boards 99-09
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           Come On Man
Oct 30th 2013
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           RE: Come On Man
Oct 30th 2013
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           I rest my case on shit breath, terrible values Philly fans.
Oct 30th 2013
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           nah, you prolly won't rest, 'tis true tho *shrug*
Oct 30th 2013
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           Wtf...smh
Oct 30th 2013
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                yeah, that's what I thought when I saw that speech too
Oct 30th 2013
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shout to the GOAT, i'm mad he's still dressing like a "belly" extra tho
Oct 30th 2013
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      he does keep that cap on, was wondering if maybe his hair's going
Oct 30th 2013
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Now, THATS how u posed to troll....from now on...thats how u troll!!!
Oct 30th 2013
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You are throwing rocks at a tank with this question
Oct 30th 2013
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1. "you must be bored..."
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2. "He has another press conference? Dude is on Mary J. Blige status"
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She had like 8 consecutive "no more drama" reflecting on
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This nigga AI has one of these every week

Damn shame

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6. "AI hasn't actually spoken to the media this entire calendar year"
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nor has he ever had a retirement press conference which is what he's having now in relation to his number getting put in the rafters tonight.

Keep trying.

TMac wanted to have one of these but no city he played in cared.

  

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18. "he never does pressers, actually, and youre just conflating shit u read"
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3. "It's not even a question"
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4. "why wont you die, zombie horse? just dieeeeee nm"
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does it even matter?

  

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5. "I doubt anyone denies this, regardless of how they feel about him."
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7. "Watching this press conference is truly making me sad"
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AI deserved more. I just wanted to see him win.
Say whatever you want about his missteps.

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8. "Accordin to O_E no cuz ppl who admire him hate puppies n kids"
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9. "lol, why you trying to get Bomb riled up again?"
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31. "RE: lol, why you trying to get Bomb riled up again?"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEXbTZHIHVs

  

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10. "easily, even if Stern and the NBA Hate his imagery"
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i mean of course. his numbers, impact don't lie or can be denied.

he won't hardly get Adrian Dantley and have to wait 40 years to get in, and a cat like Dennis Rodman shows that on the court you can't deny

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11. "DA GAWD"
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12. "dts"
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13. "without a doubt"
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14. "Top 3 all-time, maybe GOAT"
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15. "Can't lie, that press conference was moving. "
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17. "It's why he's beloved, but McNaab is appreciated."
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Mcnaab was always guarded and uneasy about his public image. AI not so much. He didn't know any better, and never seem to care much. His people were reckless and he lived like at 19yr old even up until the end. He was what he was. Doesn't mean he was any "realer" than Mcnaab.

It just played better in this city at that time. Would be a fascinating study if someone ever wrote a book about it.






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19. "it could also be that AI was just better & played better in big moments"
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21. "Naw McNabb knew how to answer questions and not give you anything"
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he is slick in his intelligence and the media and stupid ass black people hated him for that.

AI just says what he wants and doesn't care how you take it.

One is not better than the other they are just not the same in that regard.

Its also interesting that astrologically they are opposites but that is an entirely different topic.

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22. "McNabb isn't actually that sharp, he's had decades of media-training"
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but reads social cues/situations relatively poorly, some of his most benign quote attempts have ended up with him putting his foot in his own mouth and his adventures in public-speaking can be....well, awkward: http://vimeo.com/74989834#at=0

  

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24. "Naw he made philly media and you mad "
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because he didn't play the media game he stepped over a ton of bs several times and never really had any sound bites worthy of replay which is damn near hard to do as a QB in the miserable caldron of fail and nit picking that is Philly.

He doesn't do good commentary but he mastered the art of saying and giving nothing to an antagonistic media.

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26. "didn't make me mad, I was McNabb's biggest fan on these boards 99-09"
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spent more time singing his praises on OKP, copping pleas, supporting him with my dollars, being down for his cause long before O_Dawg or Cowboy fans co-opted him once he was washed-up for agenda purposes or you started throwing tantrums as if admitting he was done & it was time to move on was somehow an insult to his character.

That's all in the archives & anyone interested is welcome to go back & look.

However I was never a McNabb fan due to him being 'well spoken' or 'articulate' or 'charismatic' or any of that other dumb shit which honestly he never really was.

As someone who's met him on a couple of occasions, dude was just kind of a tool from a personality perspective.

His brother Sam who I knew from back in our shared awful days in insurance-certifying class, was a little bit cooler but that's probably because he grew up being the one his parents didn't coddle or seem to care nearly as much about.

No, my reasons for being a McNabb fan were the old fashioned kind: me being a fan of the Eagles and him being probably a Top 3 QB for the first half of decade from 00-05, later hoping/wishing that McNabb might return to that level for a few years after that but it never really happening.

And as for him never having a 'whoops' moment in terms of quotes you must be joking, he & his stage parents had plenty of moments in the press where due to the double-talk something was made out of what should have been nothing: I didn't know there was such thing as ties, it being 'bittersweet' watching the Eagles win without him, The Book Of Donovan/Easter Resurrection, whatever happened in the past hopefully it's over, every body makes mistakes, the big game is the conference championship, etc.

By trying to give gobbledygook non-answers, he often just got gacked up that gook on himself for no reason at all.

The media was far more antagonistic to an Allen Iverson than a Donovan McNabb & while 'practice' is a classic quote/rant to re-loop, those who know/remember the context of that moment recall what it was actually about at the time.

I won't even go into how terrible McNabb's performance as a media member has been because I don't really care but that Syracuse Broadcasting School training doesn't really appear to be paying off there.

  

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25. "Come On Man"
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Dude got you 4 NFC title appearances and a chance for a Super Bowl, and yet you (as well as some other Philly heads) continue to shit on him...that's why a lot of cats look at some Philly fans sideways

Both dudes did as much as humanly possible for your franchise.
One got in SOME trouble: adored
Another got in NO trouble: shitted on

And one of them is the best player in franchise history...and it ain't AI

  

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27. "RE: Come On Man"
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>Dude got you 4 NFC title appearances and a chance for a Super
>Bowl,
played well under his own even average-performances in all of those (only possible exception in Arizona), including actually throwing up in the Super Bowl & still pretending that didn't happen.

and yet you (as well as some other Philly heads)
>continue to shit on him...
check the archives, I plea-copped for him in every one of those situations.

that's why a lot of cats look at
>some Philly fans sideways
>
please, you bitches would find ways to do that regardless as you have before or since.

>Both dudes did as much as humanly possible for your
>franchise.
>One got in SOME trouble: adored
>Another got in NO trouble: shitted on
>
>And one of them is the best player in franchise history...and
>it ain't AI

LOL, I don't know who the Hell told you that McNabb is the best player in franchise history but that ain't close to being true.

  

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29. "I rest my case on shit breath, terrible values Philly fans. "
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What a dickhead response

  

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30. "nah, you prolly won't rest, 'tis true tho *shrug*"
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32. "Wtf...smh"
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>but reads social cues/situations relatively poorly, some of
>his most benign quote attempts have ended up with him putting
>his foot in his own mouth and his adventures in
>public-speaking can be....well, awkward:
>http://vimeo.com/74989834#at=0

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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33. "yeah, that's what I thought when I saw that speech too"
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>>but reads social cues/situations relatively poorly, some of
>>his most benign quote attempts have ended up with him
>putting
>>his foot in his own mouth and his adventures in
>>public-speaking can be....well, awkward:
>>http://vimeo.com/74989834#at=0
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23. "shout to the GOAT, i'm mad he's still dressing like a "belly" extra tho"
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fam up in that jawnt looking like the illest nigga in nebraska

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28. "he does keep that cap on, was wondering if maybe his hair's going"
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16. "Now, THATS how u posed to troll....from now on...thats how u troll!!!"
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20. "You are throwing rocks at a tank with this question"
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stop it.

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