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John Forte
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"How good was Yao?"


          

Is he, as Simmons says, the most overrated superstar of his era? I think Yao needs to be the number 1 or 2 option to be effective, but I don't think you can win with Yao touching the ball that much in today's NBA.

  

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Yao top of game basketball star
Sep 03rd 2013
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He averaged 19-9-2-2
Sep 03rd 2013
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i think i was the first to make the smits comp, but he was better
Sep 03rd 2013
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very good...was one of the best centers in the league when he was
Sep 03rd 2013
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one of the 2 best big men on the planet when healthy. nm
Sep 03rd 2013
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but, not in any modern sense
Sep 03rd 2013
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      Hi, Mike D'Antoni
Sep 03rd 2013
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Yao was a really, really good basketball player.
Sep 03rd 2013
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one of the more impressive players I ever saw in person
Sep 03rd 2013
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my dad called it right away, said look @ his legs, he wont last
Sep 03rd 2013
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      I guess the scars of Bradley had me thinking he'd be close to that form
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      im sad i only got to see him live once
Sep 03rd 2013
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Skill-wise he was as good as anybody, I'm not sure if it was a cultural....
Sep 03rd 2013
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He also never really teached his prime like that
Sep 03rd 2013
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JVG tried...once he was starting to get it his health deteriorated.
Sep 03rd 2013
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he was getting there IMO, but then his body betrayed him
Sep 03rd 2013
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      Yeah he was telling Chandler he would make him swallow his mouthpiece
Sep 03rd 2013
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hmm i have a lot of thoughts
Sep 03rd 2013
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did that donknutts post documenting his rookie season not get archived?
Sep 03rd 2013
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After he came into his own, who disrespected him?
Sep 03rd 2013
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Hate to say, I think he was turning the corner towards BEAST-status
Sep 03rd 2013
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he was suring up his D and developing a post game
Sep 04th 2013
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very good,however not used the right way
Sep 03rd 2013
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good enough to get his team to the 2nd round
Sep 04th 2013
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Best chinese player of all time
Sep 04th 2013
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A liberal arts school could offer a course on this reply. n/m
Sep 04th 2013
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lulz @ singapore
Sep 04th 2013
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He was on his way to becoming the Dirk Nowitzki of centers
Sep 04th 2013
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Chinese Bol
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1. "Yao top of game basketball star"
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cantball
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2. "He averaged 19-9-2-2"
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He was not an all time great,but he was basically Rik Smits.

Had he ever taken time off and not played for the National team,his career probably goes differently
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12. "i think i was the first to make the smits comp, but he was better"
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when he was coming in i said his build and size would limit his minutes and probably cause physical problems, and his level of production would be similar to smits'.

that said, yao was a stronger player than smits. you could run the offense through him. he could dominate for stretches. he was a much more dynamic player with a higher top end than smits was IMO, and i really liked the dunkin dutchman.

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Cenario
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3. "very good...was one of the best centers in the league when he was"
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healthy.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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4. "one of the 2 best big men on the planet when healthy. nm"
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John Forte
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7. "but, not in any modern sense"
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He was probably the most skilled true center of his era, but his style of play isn't conducive to winning in today's league. He was a plodding, lane-clogging center who had to be featured in the offese to make an impact, and he wasn't a great defender.

  

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15. "Hi, Mike D'Antoni"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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5. "Yao was a really, really good basketball player. "
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6. "one of the more impressive players I ever saw in person"
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I recall being at Staples for a Clippers game versus the Rockets & being amazed.

Always thought he was kind of a skinny big man legs were like tree-trunks, he had an array of moves, could seemingly get a good shot anytime he wanted it plus was posting up every time down the floor but the Rockets seemed to want to settle for jumpers a lot & often not even feeding the post for a set-up before doing so.

I just remember thinking 'that guy looks like he could score anytime he wants' with Chris Kaman guarding him & maybe them occasionally sending help.

Shaq would have slapped the shit out of somebody on his team by that point.

  

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ConcreteCharlie
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14. "my dad called it right away, said look @ his legs, he wont last"
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something about him being bottom heavy.

i saw him live a couple times and like you i was impressed. he wasnt just a big ass freak chewing up space like, say, shawn bradley. very poised player.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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16. "I guess the scars of Bradley had me thinking he'd be close to that form"
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in the lower body but he had a really thick base *pause*

I thought that would help him actually but it was not meant to be.

  

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17. "im sad i only got to see him live once"
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8. "Skill-wise he was as good as anybody, I'm not sure if it was a cultural...."
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thing or what but I don't think he every really embraced that strong alpha dog mentality that all the great players have.

In some ways he was similar to Pau Gasol, Batman talent, Robin personality.

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9. "He also never really teached his prime like that"
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10. "JVG tried...once he was starting to get it his health deteriorated."
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thing or what but I don't think he every really embraced that strong alpha dog mentality that all the great players have.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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13. "he was getting there IMO, but then his body betrayed him"
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that whole passive asian thing followed him for longer than it should have. he was getting more aggressive and understanding his role better, but then he started losing steam physically.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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22. "Yeah he was telling Chandler he would make him swallow his mouthpiece"
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Yelling "can't fucking stop me" etc after a short while. after a couple years in the NBA he realized he loved the competitiveness and shit talking

  

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11. "hmm i have a lot of thoughts"
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but i also have a lot of work to get done.

BBL.

I will say its interesting how public opinion both on and off teh boards around Yao has shifted since his retirement.

Seems like he gets a lot more respect than I remember he got during his playing career.

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18. "did that donknutts post documenting his rookie season not get archived?"
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19. "After he came into his own, who disrespected him?"
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>Seems like he gets a lot more respect than I remember he got
>during his playing career.

I mean, once he got paired up with T-Mac, everyone knew how good he was. Even before that, really. But if you're talking about his first two years, of course...he was hyped as the next Shaq, there was all the All Star bids (some of which were definitely not earned), etc.

But after year 1, he was essentially at his career averages - nearly 20/10/2...everyone knew he was good.

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20. "Hate to say, I think he was turning the corner towards BEAST-status"
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....right before his leg gave up on him in the playoffs

  

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27. "he was suring up his D and developing a post game"
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21. "very good,however not used the right way"
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imo he was everything ralph sampson's pro career wasn't. yao had have had the ball to him more often and played to his strengths he would have been even better imo.

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23. "good enough to get his team to the 2nd round"
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24. "Best chinese player of all time"
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This includes niggas from hong kong, singapore, and taiwan

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25. "A liberal arts school could offer a course on this reply. n/m"
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28. "lulz @ singapore"
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26. "He was on his way to becoming the Dirk Nowitzki of centers"
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Dude had all the offensive repertoires & was borderline unguardable because of the things he was able to do at his size but he passive & was an average defender at best.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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