Wall has certainly helped his team this season. The Wizards are above .500 with him in the lineup and the numbers show just how valuable he has been since returning, as Van Gundy recently pointed out when he “reevaluated” Wall and admitted he was wrong about the up-and-coming point guard.
“I don’t think anybody has done more for a team this year than John Wall has,” Van Gundy told ESPN 980. “Look, they were 5-28 when he came back. Five and 28. The worst team in the league. And they’re 21-16 since then. And if you look at the numbers, they’re the ninth-best team in the league if you compare defensive numbers and offensive numbers — the ninth-best team in the league, fourth-best team in the East since he’s come back. So this is a team that you could project, with John Wall, could be not only a playoff team but be sitting with home-court in the playoffs. And they were the worst team in the league before he came back. Nobody else has done that for a team. … His presence has been huge for that team, and they went from being a good defensive team, to a great defensive team when he came back. They’re second in the league defensively since he came back. … I think that he has proven me wrong in terms of his value to a team.”
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3. "RE: Stan Van gundy first muthafucka to repent those sins" In response to Reply # 0
I don't even follow the Wiz like that...But you would either have to be on some agenda-driven bullshit or blind not to see that Wall makes this team infinitely better...
Right now, I'm worried about my Bulls and how they will operate with Rose coming back...Hopefully dude will not lose his explosion next season...
But if I were a Wall fan I would be highly optimistic about next season...
And if I were a Wall hater I would be ready to take an L....
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7. "RE: when he's an all-star and close to what he was supposed to be" In response to Reply # 4
>i won't say another word > >this been a nice month for him tho...season over.
He will be if he continues his good play Basa...
I'll say it again...These will be the locks for Eastern Conference PG's making the All-Star game...
Rondo Rose D. Wills (he will finally be healthy)
It's going to be a battle between Live Like Rie, Wall, and Jrue....
And if Wall happens to be leading a winning team (barring injury, this will happen given that he seems to make marginal teammates better), it will really be interesting....
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13. "RE: not really. " In response to Reply # 10 Wed Apr-03-13 01:52 PM by murph71
>just not gonna sit here and entertain the idea that fuckin >deron williams and two blown knees dudes are LOCKS at the >guard spots in the east.
But u sound delusional here...
D. Wills is a lot of things, Basa....But it's evident that dude should have been shut down this season...He was not the same with those bone spurs....And when he gets healthy on this BK team that is already a playoff team, it's not at all a stretch to think a healthy Williams will make the All-Star team...He's made it three times already...And he was on a gold medal Olympic team...U act like we talking about Jeremy Lin or something...lol
Chill...
And those two blown knees? If they play even 75 percent of their abilities *AND* lead their teams to winning records Rose and Rondo will def. make it...Not to mention that both have bigger fanbases than Rie (the Bulls and Celtics fans are massive across the country) and one of them will get voted in as a starter by the fans...
Bottom line...The coaches choose the reserves...And if you are on a losing team it's going to be tough to make an all-star team no matter how good you are in 2014...
It's going to be very tough for the youngins'to make it this time if their teams are not winning games....
And if Wall happens to be on a winning team, then, well...
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>D. Wills is a lot of things, Basa....But it's evident that >dude should have been shut down this season...He was not the >same with those bone spurs....And when he gets healthy on this >BK team that is already a playoff team, it's not at all a >stretch to think a healthy Williams will make the All-Star >team...He's made it three times already...And he was on a gold >medal Olympic team...U act like we talking about Jeremy Lin or >something...lol
yeah, he's made it 3 times in TEN seasons....he ain't no LOCK. what the hell's the matter with you?
>Chill... > >And those two blown knees? If they play even 75 percent of >their abilities *AND* lead their teams to winning records Rose >and Rondo will def. make it...Not to mention that both have >bigger fanbases than Rie (the Bulls and Celtics fans are >massive across the country) and one of them will get voted in >as a starter by the fans...
this is wishful ass thinking my dude. kyrie made a lasting impression on AS weekend. fans already voted him 4th (deron beat him by like 10K votes) in the backcourt this year after he'd MISSED damn near all of December which is when the bulk of voting is done. what, you think he gonna lose votes now? please
and the cavs lost andy for 80% of the year. he'll be back and they'll be better.
>Bottom line...The coaches choose the reserves...And if you are >on a losing team it's going to be tough to make an all-star >team no matter how good you are in 2014...
whatever. 18 and 8 (with wack shooting percetages) on a 24 win team at break ain't gonna beat 24 and 6 (with the best shooting percentages at the position) on a 18 win team at break...i mean, you can WISH otherwise, but that's what happened. and the cavs will be way better this year.
>It's going to be very tough for the youngins'to make it this >time if their teams are not winning games....
ain't no guarantee any of these vet teams standing pat. i'm looking at this on an individual performance basis.
>And if Wall happens to be on a winning team, then, well...
24. "RE: not really. " In response to Reply # 23 Wed Apr-03-13 02:47 PM by murph71
U already know I respect your point of view and passion, dog...
All I'm saying is it comes down to winning...
As for D. Wills, dude didn't make it because everyone could actually see he didn't deserve it...Dude was struggling....So the coaches were not impressed...
But if he plays up to his capabilities AND Brooklyn has a winning record, he will def. be voted in by the coaches...That's how it's usually been done, Basa...That's the history of the NBA...
Fanbases and starpower will be important when it comes to Rose and Rondo....They are still veiwed as the two best PG in the East no matter what kind of injuries they have to come back from...It's just that simple...
Rie's competition for that Allstar will be be Wall and Jrue....So yeah...having a winning record will be VERY important...
It will be interesting to see who out of those three will lead their team to the playoffs...
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26. "RE: kyrie gettin voted in next year dude...simple as that" In response to Reply # 25 Wed Apr-03-13 02:55 PM by murph71
>somebody gotta be the one to tell you the truth. might as >well be me.
He's getting voted in over Rose and Rondo? That's what u r saying? I think it will be up to the coaches to get that kid in...It could happen depending on those records...Hell, on the low he could fill Wade's spot if he is gimpy...That dude got a better stroke than most SG's...But yeah, it's going to be tough...
And just to let u know, I'm not rooting against Rie...I'm just looking at the numbers game...
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11. "If The Celtics Stink" In response to Reply # 7
No way Rondo makes it This year he was voted in by the fans...won't happen next year with a healthy Rose and if 'Rie continues to ball (he's probably the most popular PG in the East)
After the voted in PG, you still gotta contend with a healthy D-Will, the loser of the Rose/Rie vote, AND possibly Jrue and if he balls like this next year, Wall. Rondo might be the odd man out (especially if the Celtics don't play well)
14. "if That Injured Penny lookalike continues to ball" In response to Reply # 11
stop it he can't lead a team they are better without him night in and night out when he is out there jacking shots away and playing like steve franchise it is cute but he ain't in Wall's class, beal is injured Nene is always injured nigga Wall is playing with Webster and Okafor and still winning while we keep making excuses for Kyrie oh this person is injured oh that person is injured.
Next yr will be a big yr for both i have all my chips in on Wall top 5 team next yr , Kyrie is going to get his coach fire next yr mark my words for being a weak version of the franchise
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15. "RE: If The Celtics Stink" In response to Reply # 11
>No way Rondo makes it >This year he was voted in by the fans...won't happen next year >with a healthy Rose and if 'Rie continues to ball (he's >probably the most popular PG in the East)
But that's the rub....In the East, the Celtics won't suck....They will have a winning record...And trust me when I say this...Celtics and Bulls fanbases dwarf the Cavs post Lebron in every way...One of them will be voted in as starters just off of the fans...And the one that will be left over will be picked by the coaches...U can book that...
>After the voted in PG, you still gotta contend with a healthy >D-Will, the loser of the Rose/Rie vote, AND possibly Jrue and >if he balls like this next year, Wall. Rondo might be the odd >man out (especially if the Celtics don't play well)
I already said a healthy D. Will will make it...He's not the issue here...
The three names that will be fighting to get in will be Rie, Wall, and Jrue...
And I'll say it again...coaches usually vote for PG's on winning teams...The absence of Rose and Rondo in this years all-star game opened up a lot for the younger PG's to get in the game....
So it will be about the player who is leading his team to a winning record...
And right now (on paper) Wall, if healthy, has the best chance of doing that if his team stays relatively injury-free...Their stats say as much....
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19. "RE: Exactly. Only chance is hoping the big 3 fall off." In response to Reply # 17
I agree...
And again....We differ here...I think Rie is a better "player" than Wall at the moment....But it's a positions game when it comes to getting picked for that All-Star PG spot unlike being a big man where if you are good they will plug u in at the 5 or the 4 and even at the 3...
And if you are a PG and your team is winning then all bets are off...
That's the next level for Kyrie and Wall...actually leading a winning squad...
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21. "RE: Exactly. Only chance is hoping the big 3 fall off." In response to Reply # 19
>And again....We differ here...I think Rie is a better "player" >than Wall at the moment...
Well, that's because we fundamentally disagree on what a pg is supposed to do Murph. And to refrain from a classic Rondo/Rose back and forth, I'll punt on this one. Lol
22. "RE: Exactly. Only chance is hoping the big 3 fall off." In response to Reply # 21
> >>And again....We differ here...I think Rie is a better >"player" >>than Wall at the moment... > >Well, that's because we fundamentally disagree on what a pg is >supposed to do Murph. And to refrain from a classic Rondo/Rose >back and forth, I'll punt on this one. Lol
lol...
Hey...the kid got over 8 dimes a game and made his team better...I'd say Rose was being a PG....
Believe me, I know what a PG is supposed to do...But that doesn't include padding them dimes at times (*rim shot*)...
Peace, though....
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27. "I Can Keep My Rondo Hate Aside" In response to Reply # 16
But HONESTLY, I don't think he's more popular than Kyrie...so that might shut down the voting
And if the Celtics aren't as good as the Bulls or the Nets, how would Rondo make it over Rose and D-Will? That's all I'm saying
That's why I said he was voted in by the fans...I didn't say he didn't deserve to be an all-star this year. But if the fans vote either Rose or Kyrie in, do you think that Rondo will make the squad over the other PG's, IF the Celts aren't as good as the Nets or the Bulls? He'll probably be ahead of Jrue and possibly Wall, assuming the Wizards don't upgrade the roster (dude needs more help), but I doubt if the coaches let 3-4 PG's on the roster and exclude other players
Personally I HATE Rondo, but I'm not dumb when it comes to ball. Just looking at it logically, he might be the odd man out. And if he isn't, who would be?
29. "RE: I Can Keep My Rondo Hate Aside" In response to Reply # 27
>But HONESTLY, I don't think he's more popular than Kyrie...so >that might shut down the voting > >And if the Celtics aren't as good as the Bulls or the Nets, >how would Rondo make it over Rose and D-Will? That's all I'm >saying
Because there are more Celtic fans on this planet than there are Cavs fans....And those fans are rabid...lol
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men are so simple, and so subject to present necessities, that he who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived. (c)Niccolò Machiavelli
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