the white media are callin him intelligent

the white media are callin him humble

The white media are saying he has tremendous work ethic

the white media are correctly identifying him as a pocket passer

because of this well-deserved hype, he is now guaranteed to go top 10.

I applaud the white media for simply doing their job and reporting the FACTS.

cam in school taking classes, by the way. he gonna surpass everyone not named rodgers next year. EVERYONE not named rodgers. no...everyone not named rodgers. you read it right.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Cuz I know the Raiders were there at his pro day.

I know he completed like 63 of 65 passes.

And I know that shit has glaring similarities to being wowed by Jamar-couscous's Pro Day.

I'm ready with cutting Carson. Starting T.P. and let the good or bad times roll. We already cutting everyone on the team and signing dudes that I never heard of who look like they may or may not be part time amateur MMA fighters.

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i don't watch college football enough to be making predictions about pro potential, bro. if someone catches my eye, i'll watch now and again, but in general, no college football for me.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Jamarcus put on a throwing clinic the likes to which
scouts never saw. You won't see 10 of those in a lifetime.

As for Pryor: he's in the high risk/reaally high reward
category like the Kaepernicks of the world. I think he
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scouts never saw. You won't see 10 of those in a lifetime.
>
>As for Pryor: he's in the high risk/reaally high reward
>category like the Kaepernicks of the world. I think he
>should get a chance.

I'll be the first to admit that I don't follow college football much and never heard of him before we drafted him, but he was mainly the victim of conference bias.

Props to Michael Patmas who called it way back when...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/629296-2011-nfl-draft-why-nevadas-colin-kaepernick-is-the-best-of-the-bunch

>I'll be the first to admit that I don't follow college
>football much and never heard of him before we drafted him,
>but he was mainly the victim of conference bias.

If you didn't watch him, then you probably shouldn't
be saying anything.

He was a very good football player in college.

He wasn't nearly as sharp or precise or measured as he
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>
>>I'll be the first to admit that I don't follow college
>>football much and never heard of him before we drafted him,
>>but he was mainly the victim of conference bias.
>
>If you didn't watch him, then you probably shouldn't
>be saying anything.
right because people here only speak about things they know firsthand lol. i know several other people who did watch him in college who were interested in seeing him come to the pros. and it still doesn't invalidate the fact that where someone plays can still affect the coverage that they receive.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1497369-colin-kaepernick-how-the-bcs-system-almost-kept-him-out-of-the-nfl

are you telling me it makes sense to you that someone like that almost doesn't get drafted AT ALL?


>He was a very good football player in college.
>
>He wasn't nearly as sharp or precise or measured as he
>is now.
>
yeah, that was the word when he was drafted that he was still raw. but "risky" was never a word thrown about with him. dude was always hailed for his cannon.

scouts fuck up all the time, it's not an exact science. that doesn't mean someone is high risk just because THEY blew it.

Firstly, never swipe bleacher report articles. I never,
ever, ever read them, and neither should you.

Second, read carefully. I'm making a very simple point
that almost has nothing to do with Kaepernick specifically.

>yeah, that was the word when he was drafted that he was still
>raw. but "risky" was never a word thrown about with him. dude
>was always hailed for his cannon.
>
>scouts fuck up all the time, it's not an exact science. that
>doesn't mean someone is high risk just because THEY blew it.

To say he was a "risk" is not a criticism at all.

Colin Kaepernick was a 2nd round pick.

Terrell Pryor ended up being a 3rd round pick (supplemental).

Its the place and manner in which they were drafted
that makes them "risks."

Recall what I said: they are "high risk, REALLY
HIGH REWARD." Read my og post again. I said clearly.

A second round pick is valuable. Because of that, it
is inherently risky. A guy like Kaepernick gives you
potentially great return.

A guy like Andy Dalton, alternatively, is a low risk,
moderate reward 2nd round pick. There was little doubt
that he'd be decent. There is serious doubt that he'll
be great.

I saw Kaepernick in college. Excelled against B-level
competition. Hard to gauge. Cam Newton, on the other hand,
was also a risk, but we saw him beat Alabama, on the road,
by himself. That's no knock on Colin's *skill set*. But that
level of uncertainty is the reason Cam Newton was a consensus
#1 pick overall, while Colin was a possible late first rounder/second
rounder.

You're acting like the "risk" label is knock on him
personally. Its not.

A guy like Ryan Tannenhill, for a example, is a faaaar higher
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>
>Firstly, never swipe bleacher report articles. I never,
>ever, ever read them, and neither should you.
lol yall be killing bleacher report. it gives quick info, thats all i peep it for.

>Second, read carefully. I'm making a very simple point
>that almost has nothing to do with Kaepernick specifically.
>
>>yeah, that was the word when he was drafted that he was
>still
>>raw. but "risky" was never a word thrown about with him.
>dude
>>was always hailed for his cannon.
>>
>>scouts fuck up all the time, it's not an exact science. that
>>doesn't mean someone is high risk just because THEY blew it.
>
>
>To say he was a "risk" is not a criticism at all.
>Colin Kaepernick was a 2nd round pick.
>
>Terrell Pryor ended up being a 3rd round pick (supplemental).
>
>
>Its the place and manner in which they were drafted
>that makes them "risks."
>
>Recall what I said: they are "high risk, REALLY
>HIGH REWARD." Read my og post again. I said clearly.
>
>A second round pick is valuable. Because of that, it
>is inherently risky. A guy like Kaepernick gives you
>potentially great return.
I wasn't taking it as an insult or criticism. I was looking at how our particular team was constructed. When Kaep was drafted, we had nothing firmly entrenched at the QB position. To use a 2nd rounder with little money attached, regardless of how he panned out, was not what I'd call a risk. I only asked why were you calling him one because I was wondering were there any RED FLAGS on him coming out. That was it.




>A guy like Andy Dalton, alternatively, is a low risk,
>moderate reward 2nd round pick. There was little doubt
>that he'd be decent. There is serious doubt that he'll
>be great.
>
>I saw Kaepernick in college. Excelled against B-level
>competition. Hard to gauge. Cam Newton, on the other hand,
>was also a risk, but we saw him beat Alabama, on the road,
>by himself. That's no knock on Colin's *skill set*. But that
>level of uncertainty is the reason Cam Newton was a consensus
>
>#1 pick overall, while Colin was a possible late first
>rounder/second
>rounder.
>
>You're acting like the "risk" label is knock on him
>personally. Its not.
see above. I just thin "risk" is dependent on the team that takes him. For example, compared to what the Skins gave up for RGIII, I'd call Kaep a safe pick.

>A guy like Ryan Tannenhill, for a example, is a faaaar higher
>risk pick than Kaepernick at the same stage, imo.
>
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and that's basically all he writes about on Bleacher Report. so while his prediction about Kaepernick (and his future team) was quite prescient, his complaints that Kaepernick would've gone undrafted if he hadn't beaten Boise State are extreme conjecture. he doesn't have any NFL connections, and is more so commentating on the fact the "public" didn't know about him.

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from #4 and pick up some extra players or picks.

If they draft this dude, the Chip Kelly Era is officially in trouble from the jump.

loser fan base.

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

Because unlike the other ones, he isn't expected to be
a savior.

The other black QBs with a lot of hype have been other
worldly hurlers or Heisman winners who were essentially gods
in college (Russell's legendary arm, Cam and RG3 won the
Heisman).

The only other comparable one is Josh Freeman, and even he was
an uber blue chip in high school. The consensus on him was that
had Freeman come out a year later, he woulda been in that top
3-5 class.

Geno isn't like any of them. He's got flaws. He didn't always
play well in college.

And white folks are ACTUALLY SCOUTING HIM and evaluating his
talent based on the the AVAILABLE information.

I mean, he ran a fucking 4.59 and we're still talking about
his personality and leadership and intelligence.

That's progress, y'all.

Like i said: I'll be happy when we get black Black Blaine
Gabberts, these guys who are actually scouted and allowed
to fail.

Dude had a 42/6 TD-INT ratio...that's incredible.
He looked bad in 2 games...so did Andrew Luck

Maybe because WVU isn't known for their QB's...but neither is Wisconsin and look who came out last year

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

They're afraid of swinging and missing again, and they might be trying to trade back to make it less of a perceived reach.

But they like him. And I like him a hell of a lot more than another punishing season of Gabbert and Henne.

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its time to admit Gabbert was a mistake and move on. Maybe the guy can make something of himself somewhere else, but its not gonna be with the Jags.

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as if that shitty TD/INT ratio is guaranteed to disappear
Indy been spending free agent money suspect as shit too
media ain't giving none of that doubt benefit to Cam or Wilson (they love RG3 tho)

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Some people are saying the don't want to go with the rookie, others are saying that they are trying to play down their interest so they won't get roped into giving up a ton in order to move up to get hm (if it looks like they might need to.)

I really can't believe that they are going with Drew Stanton and Brian Hoyer as their starters next year.

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>I really can't believe that they are going with Drew Stanton and Brian Hoyer as their starters next year.



clearly they have sOME other plan


http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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Jamarcus has been great for scouting of black QBs,
even though Jamarcus events aren't really predictable,
same way Ryan Leafs aren't predictable (both were just
psychologically fucked)

I'm running the actual data on this now.

Because black QBs are under a microscope, they are rarely
overdrafted relative to their white counterparts.

RG, Cam, Freeman, etc all were cross examined to death.

Kaepernick too. He was scouted to death.

Gabbert, Tannenhill, etc, were barely scouted at all.
(I'm on record thinking Tannenhill will be good but he
is nothing more than a huge project and LOL @ him being
drafted so high).

Note how Omar Jacobs wasn't drafted high.

Neither was Ryan Perriloux.

Dunno if either are any good, but they woulda been
drafted if they were white.

The heightened scrutiny means that black QBs are properly
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andy reid gon do it too...

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be about it or be without it

RIP GOATs

>cam in school taking classes, by the way. he gonna surpass
>everyone not named rodgers next year. EVERYONE not named
>rodgers. no...everyone not named rodgers. you read it right.
>

And that's not even a knock on Cam.

1) Brees
2) Freeman <--I said it
3) Ryan
4) Cam

and his numbers were pretty good, despite all the BS
So I really wouldn't be surprised if he had a monster year

It's a new addition to OKS. I call it disavowing, reverse race baiting. I shoulda got a PhD.

>cam in school taking classes, by the way. he gonna surpass
>everyone not named rodgers next year. EVERYONE not named
>rodgers. no...everyone not named rodgers. you read it right.
>
>


thanks b1g and miami and shit

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But hell, what do I know?

a top 10 talent. In fact, many scouting reports I've seen on him are vehemently against him being a top 10 pick. Not necessarily what I believe - just what I've read. And trust me, I'm following him closely as my Eagles desperately need to find a long term solution at QB.

Based on scouting reports I've read, he's far from being a top 10 lock. If he does go top 10, it will most likely be due to the fact that teams like the Bills are in desperate need of a starting QB. I wish I could give a definitive analysis of Geno, but I'm not real comfortable in my ability to project QBs at the NFL level. Unless they're blessed with immense talent like Luck and RGIII, it's really a tough task to accurately guague how guys like Geno will do at the next level.

One knock I've heard quite frequently in regard to Geno's weaknesses is that he has 'happy feet' and doesn't respond well under duress. But other than that, I do think the media's been pretty fair with him. I mean, from all reports he seems like a genuinely likeable guy.

>I applaud the white media for simply doing their job and
>reporting the FACTS.

Nah

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Its been on every major media news network. Everybody
read and saw the critique. Geno's rebuttal got about
1/10000th the attention.

Todd McShay had a chance to rebuke him, and didn't.
He was basically like "from the people I know, they
don't agree."

And McShay DIDN'T deny the issues about his intellect
or leadership (those are just as false as the hard work
critique, actually).

McShay even brought up how Geno gets frustrated during some
games (which is actually a positive) to say that the guy's
comments weren't from out of left field.

He damn near DEFENDED the dude and only concentrated on
the hard work part, left the rest of that racist bullshit
ALONE.

This might not hurt Geno's draft stock, but this review
has definitely damaged his reputation.

Just check how paper thin the rebuttals have been

That the white media is using the same guy's record on Cam Newton
is evidence that people listen. They are like "well, he was
right about Cam."


I'm gonna need 2006 calling-out crackas Basa on this one,
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Otherwise that publication would be a tabloid (it is
a tabloid, but people don't see it that way)

The guy is racist. White media take it seriously.

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i didn't know your statement was rhetorical. i thought someone with a hint of cred said "well, he was right about cam"....that didn't happen? oh well, i don't care about this guy. i said it when i saw that first thread. he on get back, because cam and RG3 fried his analysis and so did wilson to a lesser extent. he gonna call every high profile black QB prospect a bum until he gets the next one correct. i ain't gonna sit here and be mad about it.

i just can't get mad about this.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>i didn't know your statement was rhetorical. i thought
>someone with a hint of cred said "well, he was right about
>cam"....that didn't happen? oh well, i don't care about this
>guy. i said it when i saw that first thread. he on get back,
>because cam and RG3 fried his analysis and so did wilson to a
>lesser extent. he gonna call every high profile black QB
>prospect a bum until he gets the next one correct. i ain't
>gonna sit here and be mad about it.
>
>i just can't get mad about this.

This does sort of undermine the premise of your original
post, which I was in FULL support of, btw. I wanted your
post to be true. To be right.

Crackas messed it up, Ba. I think where we disagree is in
how we respond.

I find the silence from a white media who could EASILY rip
this guy a new one (he's done this THREE YEARS IN A ROW)
frightening. And the fact that Geno HAS TO RESPOND TO THIS
RACIST SHIT is proof that white people believe it.




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>This does sort of undermine the premise of your original
>post, which I was in FULL support of, btw. I wanted your
>post to be true. To be right.

to me, i doesn't undermine anything. but, that's just me.

>Crackas messed it up, Ba. I think where we disagree is in
>how we respond.

they're reporting on a story, not agreeing with his analysis.

>I find the silence from a white media who could EASILY rip
>this guy a new one (he's done this THREE YEARS IN A ROW)
>frightening. And the fact that Geno HAS TO RESPOND TO THIS
>RACIST SHIT is proof that white people believe it.

dogg, from the stories i've read they (the white media) offer rebuttals to this guy's scouting report within the SAME ARTICLE, so what i'mma be mad for?

how would you suggest the white media "rip" this guy? other than simply disagreeing and rebutting with opinions from other scouts and geno's coaches--which is happening--what are the options here? yelling out racism? oh, to get the focus off football and put geno at the center of some bullshit that'll follow him throught the remainder of the draft process? i'm GLAD no one has done that. when 'cism like this pops up, the worst thing you can do is call it by name, then everybody gets to play stupid and the racist actually gains sympathy. NOPE! it's more important for me that he be proven WRONG about geno than he be proven racist. because if he's proven wrong AGAIN, the question HAS to be asked of him: "how could you not see it? every other major analyst saw his potential. this makes 3 franchise QBs in a row you've gotten wrong? how's that happen?"...and just let that 'cism bomb linger just like he does in his evals of black QBs.

dude is hiding behind some (fake) sources and willing to put his credibility on the line yet again. cam and RG3 were way more high profile than geno and dude got FRIED for being wrong. so what does he do? he goes hard on a black QB prospect that seems to have a far lower ceiling than those two in hopes of bringing MORE attention to this eval than the attention he got for cam and RG3. it's basic tricknology. he pickin on the lil negro. i ain't mad at that. i'mma sit back and wait. and WHEN he's wrong, i'mma go to PFW and talk about it and i'mma go to every ESPN football analysts' chat and talk about it.

we not only disagree in how we respond, we playing two completely different games, dogg. this is ONE guy disrupting what was a positive narrative about geno, a narrative that helped him skyrocket up the draft boards. the unbiased reporting of the white media has already done what he was SUPPOSED to do: state facts. dude is clearly mad about it and wrote an eval with an intention that was hard to ignore. NOBODY declined to comment on that dude's story.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

I don't race bait because I don't know any other options.

I'm obviously talking about something specific.

And I'm not even saying RACE has to be at the center of
the discussion.

>dogg, from the stories i've read they (the white media) offer
>rebuttals to this guy's scouting report within the SAME
>ARTICLE, so what i'mma be mad for?

The criticism was national news. It wasn't in a fucking
blog.

And "media" includes white talking heads, radio shows, and
other draft experts.

If a prominent (national news worthy) criticism of the top
quarterback in the draft pops up, then it should examined
and critiqued with the vigor in which it arose.

Its actually not that crazy.

National news begets national dialogue.

Just because this review is beneath *your* standards doesn't
mean its not national news and worthy of discussion.

>how would you suggest the white media "rip" this guy? other
>than simply disagreeing and rebutting with opinions from other
>scouts and geno's coaches--which is happening--what are the
>options here? yelling out racism? oh, to get the focus off
>football and put geno at the center of some bullshit that'll
>follow him throught the remainder of the draft process?

I didn't say anything about racism, actually.

Its obviously racism, but there are a total of 47 different
ways to skin this cat.

This is SLANDER.

That is ABSOLUTELY fair game for a national discussion and a
responsible backlash.

Yes, it is.


i'm
>GLAD no one has done that. when 'cism like this pops up, the
>worst thing you can do is call it by name, then everybody gets
>to play stupid and the racist actually gains sympathy.

Didn't say that.

NOPE!
>it's more important for me that he be proven WRONG about geno
>than he be proven racist.

Right. And Todd McShay shucking and jiving talking about
how Geno acts frustrated on the sideline to quietly give
credence to the slander attempt doesn't help.

That's my point.

Get out there and call a slander job a slander job. That's
what it is.


>because if he's proven wrong AGAIN,
>the question HAS to be asked of him: "how could you not see
>it? every other major analyst saw his potential. this makes 3
>franchise QBs in a row you've gotten wrong? how's that
>happen?"...and just let that 'cism bomb linger just like he
>does in his evals of black QBs.

Nigga. He's three years deep. He did the shit twice
already. He ain't stopping.


he pickin on the
>lil negro. i ain't mad at that. i'mma sit back and wait. and
>WHEN he's wrong, i'mma go to PFW and talk about it and i'mma
>go to every ESPN football analysts' chat and talk about it.


Cool.

>we not only disagree in how we respond, we playing two
>completely different games, dogg. this is ONE guy disrupting
>what was a positive narrative about geno, a narrative that
>helped him skyrocket up the draft boards. the unbiased
>reporting of the white media has already done what he was
>SUPPOSED to do: state facts. dude is clearly mad about it and
>wrote an eval with an intention that was hard to ignore.
>NOBODY declined to comment on that dude's story.



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but, i will party on him when geno beasts out.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

>he gonna call every high profile black QB prospect a bum until he gets the next one correct. i ain't gonna sit here and be mad about it.