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Cavaliers notebook: Livingston happy to be out of Washington, starting for the Cavs at point guard

By Jason Lloyd
Beacon Journal sports writer

Published: March 12, 2013 - 11:32 PM | Updated: March 13, 2013 - 09:56 AM

Cavs, without Irving, hold off Wizards 95-90
After the Cavaliers claimed Shaun Livingston off waivers from the Washington Wizards on Christmas Day, Livingston’s first game as a member of the Cavs was against the Wizards.

Now that Livingston is the starting point guard for the foreseeable future given Kyrie Irving’s injury, it only makes sense that Livingston’s first start also came against the Wizards on Tuesday.

“Victim of circumstances. It’s one of those ironic seasons I guess,” Livingston said. “Just another chapter in my crazy book. I’m good with that.”

It’s clear Livingston didn’t enjoy his time in Washington. He had been there once before, but when the Rockets released him at the end of training camp, the Wizards again inquired early in the season. With few other options available, Livingston agreed to return to the Wizards.

“Probably one of the worst spots I’ve been in my career,” Livingston said of his time in Washington. “At the same time, it’s been a godsend here.”

Livingston said he’s a cerebral player who didn’t have the right pieces around him in Washington, and the lack of structure within the Wizards didn’t help him. It’s why he never thought his career was over after the Wizards released him in December.

“I knew it wasn’t necessarily the best fit for me,” he said. “Sometimes it’s just about the fit. … I’m not a guy who goes out and gets 30 a game. I’m trying to make guys better and it just wasn’t bonding.”

Livingston has enjoyed his time in Cleveland and coach Byron Scott conceded he has been a fan of Livingston’s for years, but it’s doubtful at this point Livingston returns next season.

He has rejuvenated his career in Cleveland and will likely receive interest from other teams. He has made it clear he will play for the highest bidder next season, and that probably won’t be the Cavs.

Until then, Livingston will have perhaps the final 19 games this season to prove to teams he is worth more than a veteran’s minimum deal next year.

“It’s a blessing that he’s healthy and playing well,” Scott said. “He stuck with it through all the hard times that he’s had to face with the surgery and the injury that he had. To be able to be back at this point in his career is unbelievable. It just shows the type of courage and grit and determination that he has as a basketball player.”

Practice what you preach

Livingston is one of the veterans who wasn’t very happy with the way the Cavs have performed in third quarters recently. Now he gets the chance to do something about it. As a reserve, Livingston rarely played in third quarters because Scott’s rotation typically left him on the bench until the start of the fourth quarter. Irving usually plays the entire first and third quarters.

The Cavs have been outplayed and lost numerous games with sloppy and lethargic third quarters lately, leaving some of the veterans on the team aggravated.

“We’re 60 games in and you want to see progress, and the types of efforts we’ve been giving after halftime, that’s not progression, it’s regression,” Livingston said. “That’s not playoff basketball. I’ve been fortunate enough to play in the playoffs and the veterans that I played with, that was something they showed me as far as the intensity level, the effort that it takes to win games. That’s not going to get it done.”

The Cavs began Tuesday with the fourth-worst record in the league and have no realistic chance at the playoffs, but veterans like Livingston and Luke Walton are trying to at least instill that type of mentality. Livingston hopes his starting role will increase his voice in the third quarter.

“It helps because you can lead more so by example than just talking it through,” he said.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
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Shaun shouldn't be burning any bridges.
Mar 13th 2013
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From the outside looking in that organization has seemed kind of...
Mar 13th 2013
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2 Things
Mar 13th 2013
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      Aren't those points kind of related/mutually exclusive?
Mar 13th 2013
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           They are.
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                Fair enough.
Mar 13th 2013
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yuuuup. journeymen pgs don't get pieces to fit around them
Mar 13th 2013
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it sounds like he'd rather play for the BK Whoppers than the Wiz
Mar 13th 2013
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Cut him a fucking break. Nigga's knee exploded, dayum.
Mar 13th 2013
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      But that's what I'm saying. He should know what he has...
Mar 13th 2013
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           man he ain't gonna be blackballed from the league for saying the Wiz
Mar 13th 2013
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           I'm not saying blackballed.
Mar 13th 2013
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                I don't really think this was that
Mar 13th 2013
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           youre overblowing this, sensitive about wall or what?
Mar 13th 2013
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                No, it's cuz I'm a Shaun Livingston fan.
Mar 13th 2013
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Sounds like he's anti-tank....bad news for Ba's Otto campaign
Mar 13th 2013
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YOUNG GOD THE SAVIOR! I think the tank train is good.
Mar 13th 2013
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The Wizards franchise is a mess?
Mar 13th 2013
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Loves the Cavs
Mar 13th 2013
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Cuz the Cavs ain't looking to sign him.
Mar 13th 2013
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      RE: Cuz the Cavs ain't looking to sign him.
Mar 13th 2013
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           That's why it made zero sense.
Mar 13th 2013
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that clusterfuck saved his career n/m
Mar 13th 2013
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That DC nightlife wasn't enough I guess
Mar 13th 2013
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How good would Young God be without the knee explosion?
Mar 13th 2013
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16-10-6 along with nice steals and blocks.
Mar 13th 2013
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I always thought he was a bit overrated
Mar 13th 2013
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      He would get a lot of nicks and nagging injuries.
Mar 13th 2013
24
hard to say but maybe 15-5-8-2 and in the top ten
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1. "Shaun shouldn't be burning any bridges. "
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Act like a vet and keep it moving.

It's not like he's getting a long term deal any time soon.

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2. "From the outside looking in that organization has seemed kind of..."
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dysfunctional so this coming from him definitely gives some validity to that

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3. "2 Things"
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1.) He doesn't elaborate.

2.) For his own good, he should've left it alone. Who knows where his career is gonna end up?

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4. "Aren't those points kind of related/mutually exclusive?"
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1. He should have said more.

2. He shouldn't have said anything.

I'm confused. You saying he should have gone all the way in or else just said nothing at all?

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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5. "They are. "
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I'm saying he shouldn't say anything at all. And he also said something without saying anything.

So what's the point? Don't say anything.

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8. "Fair enough."
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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9. "yuuuup. journeymen pgs don't get pieces to fit around them"
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you are the piece that's supposed to fit shaun...even if you're 10000000% right about the team, you got to just keep that to yourself.

  

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14. "it sounds like he'd rather play for the BK Whoppers than the Wiz"
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so he's good off another stint there probably.

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18. "Cut him a fucking break. Nigga's knee exploded, dayum. "
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Let him say whatever the fuck he wants

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21. "But that's what I'm saying. He should know what he has..."
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to lose by burning those bridges.

EVERYBODY in the world is rooting for him.

Don't give ANYBODY a reason not to.

There's not one soul that's not pulling for Shaun Livingston.

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23. "man he ain't gonna be blackballed from the league for saying the Wiz"
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are a horrible organization (which he didn't even really say, just said it was a bad fit for him & that they had some issues which aren't really any state secret).

Everyone knows that shit.

If he ever gets to a point where he needs a gig and they're the only show in town, he will likely take it & if they ever get to a point where they desperately need a backup PG they'll play dumb then scoop him up but neither are gonna be high on each other's list if given the option.

I mean I know we all gotta play the game a bit but c'mon, Shaun Livingston is a known high-character dude who has made plenty of contacts around the league & managed his money wisely.

That's why despite having combustable joints he's managed to still carve out a worker-bee niche for himself in this league.

  

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25. "I'm not saying blackballed. "
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I'm saying you don't want to give teams a reason not to fuck with you.

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29. "I don't really think this was that "
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>I'm saying you don't want to give teams a reason not to fuck
>with you.

  

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26. "youre overblowing this, sensitive about wall or what?"
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he doesnt wanna go back to the wiz. if he can play, another team will want him. if he can't, it doesn't matter what he said or didn't say, no one will want him.

let's not make out telling a sliver of the truth about a shit organization to be some craig hodges stuff here.

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28. "No, it's cuz I'm a Shaun Livingston fan. "
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And want him to continue to be successful or at least play.

I also don't like see dudes take bait from journalists so they can spin some bullshit story out of it.

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6. "Sounds like he's anti-tank....bad news for Ba's Otto campaign"
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15. "YOUNG GOD THE SAVIOR! I think the tank train is good."
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7. "The Wizards franchise is a mess?"
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I'm SHOCKED.

Also, I was born in 1979, so...

  

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10. "Loves the Cavs"
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But admits looking elsewhere for the highest bidder.

He'll love that team next year.

Having said that, he's right.

  

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11. "Cuz the Cavs ain't looking to sign him. "
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12. "RE: Cuz the Cavs ain't looking to sign him. "
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So if he's all about finding the right fit (which is odd for someone who struggles to make a roster every year) why is he talking about finding the highest bidder?

  

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13. "That's why it made zero sense."
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I heard them talking about his comments during the game yesterday.

I thought it was strange.

I'm like dude, just get in where you fit in and be happy you're playing basketball. He's been on 7 teams.

And I'm not saying the Wizards aren't fucked up. They might be. I know they're a lot less fucked up than they were at the beginning of last year. Or two years ago.

But he's getting an opportunity now. So he should ride it out.

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16. "that clusterfuck saved his career n/m"
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17. "That DC nightlife wasn't enough I guess"
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19. "How good would Young God be without the knee explosion? "
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Gimme a stat line, rank him among the PGs today

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20. "16-10-6 along with nice steals and blocks. "
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He would've been up there.

You could even see it some yesterday. He just doesn't have that explosion anymore.

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22. "I always thought he was a bit overrated"
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>He would've been up there.
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>You could even see it some yesterday. He just doesn't have
>that explosion anymore.

A lot of that though is because of the little injuries he always picked up.

I would guess

13-4 8.5 and 5. with 1.5 steals and almost a block.

he'd be a Mike Conley gatekeeper type guy on a good playoff team

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24. "He would get a lot of nicks and nagging injuries."
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I'm gonna attest those to youth and his slim build.

Not sure if he would've put on more weight. Of course he can't now cuz of his knee.

I loved his feel for the game. His handle was crazy and he had vision.

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27. "hard to say but maybe 15-5-8-2 and in the top ten"
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i wouldnt say that was his ceiling but maybe a reasonable expectation based on the talent he showed as a very skinny teenager.

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