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Beamer6178
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"Outside of maxxx, any other dumbasses putting Wade over Mamba"
Mon Feb-25-13 03:30 PM by Beamer6178

  

          

all-time?

  
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the Heat are certainly better off currently w/Wade than they'd be w/Kobe
Feb 25th 2013
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I edited the original question for clarification
Feb 25th 2013
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well, damn, that's a helluva edit isn't it?
Feb 25th 2013
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      ole bait and switch ass mfers lol
Feb 25th 2013
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      yeah a few words make a difference but on here it was *argued*
Feb 25th 2013
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I missed the edit. but I'd argue that Kobe playing with Lebron
Feb 25th 2013
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      we don't know there would have been 'all that went on' since
Feb 25th 2013
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           Well, look...trying not to cop pleas here but...
Feb 25th 2013
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           RE: Well, look...trying not to cop pleas here but...
Feb 25th 2013
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                Oh believe me, I'm not saying this hasn't been a mess.
Feb 25th 2013
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                     fair enough & agreed
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           he did with Nash and they were losing. At 34, Kobe would be and is
Feb 26th 2013
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not here
Feb 25th 2013
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Wade has another 4-5 years
Feb 25th 2013
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no hate but i'll be shocked if he plays 5 more years at this level
Feb 25th 2013
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I like Wade, he could easily be salty that Kobe's kept him off 1st team
Feb 25th 2013
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Anyone not think prime Shaq couldn't have 3 peated w/ Wade?
Feb 25th 2013
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Wade at 21? since we're on that strawman today.
Feb 26th 2013
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when you give Wade talent around him he wins period
Feb 26th 2013
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*record scratch*
Feb 26th 2013
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they did get to the finals
Feb 26th 2013
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lol
Feb 26th 2013
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      please stop introducing factual information into this discussion
Feb 26th 2013
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      thats fine and all except for a few things
Feb 27th 2013
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if he wins another one WITHOUT Lebron, I'll entertain the discussion
Feb 26th 2013
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Bombastic
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1. "the Heat are certainly better off currently w/Wade than they'd be w/Kobe"
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 Mon Feb-25-13 03:30 PM by Bombastic

  

          

since Wade is fairly crucial to their defenisve matchups and Kobe doesn't play team D anymore.

Could Wade be a game under .500 playing on this Laker team?

Probably.

  
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Beamer6178
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2. "I edited the original question for clarification"
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Bombastic
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3. "well, damn, that's a helluva edit isn't it?"
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4. "ole bait and switch ass mfers lol"
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but everything you said is true, esp team defense

  
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Beamer6178
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8. "yeah a few words make a difference but on here it was *argued*"
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mufuckas bringing up wade's finals MVP and cuban Bing everything Bean did, other silly shit like that.

  
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El_essence
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5. "I missed the edit. but I'd argue that Kobe playing with Lebron "
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would make his offensive load lighter and he'd be more engaged defensively. I don't think Wade has the Lakers near .500 with all that went on with the roster and coaches.

  
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Bombastic
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6. "we don't know there would have been 'all that went on' since"
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Wade actually has shown the ability to play team defense & slide into a role while getting along with teammates.

LOL @ Kobe deferring to Bron or Wade not being able to play with Howard, Nash, Gasol, etc to get to the 9/10 seed so far.

  
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Ryan M
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9. "Well, look...trying not to cop pleas here but..."
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The team has been healthy together like...5 games, maybe?

Last time Wade had an injury plagued team, he won 15 games 2 years removed from winning a title.

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Bombastic
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10. "RE: Well, look...trying not to cop pleas here but..."
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>The team has been healthy together like...5 games, maybe?
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That is a copped plea though, they had Pau when Nash wasn't there & they've had Dwight + everyone else (well, sorry, no Jordan Hill who begat a better player & at times no Steve Blake) all year.

They haven't really been bitten by the injury bug any worse than any other team, especially any other team with some age.

>Last time Wade had an injury plagued team, he won 15 games 2
>years removed from winning a title.

LOL @ comparing those two rosters.

It would be hard to be worse off with this team than DWade & Kobe not knowing his place in Miami or playing D would be a mess.

  
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Ryan M
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11. "Oh believe me, I'm not saying this hasn't been a mess."
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It's an utter disappointment and horribly underachieving. Even if they didn't reach the beastmode levels of preseason hype, not even being in the 8th spot is terrible.

I'm just saying Wade has a blemish or two on his resume also.

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Bombastic
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14. "fair enough & agreed "
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>It's an utter disappointment and horribly underachieving.
>Even if they didn't reach the beastmode levels of preseason
>hype, not even being in the 8th spot is terrible.
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>I'm just saying Wade has a blemish or two on his resume also.

  
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23. "he did with Nash and they were losing. At 34, Kobe would be and is"
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giving up the rock.

  
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7. "not here"
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12. "Wade has another 4-5 years "
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Beamer6178
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13. "no hate but i'll be shocked if he plays 5 more years at this level"
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15. "I like Wade, he could easily be salty that Kobe's kept him off 1st team"
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all nba every year and not give him his props but he's always respected and held kobe in high regard including recently when he called him the greatest player of his generation.

Top 4 SG all time.

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16. "Anyone not think prime Shaq couldn't have 3 peated w/ Wade?"
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just curious

  
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24. "Wade at 21? since we're on that strawman today."
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17. "when you give Wade talent around him he wins period"
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the only thing kobe got over him one on one is the scoring and remember Wade can score in bunches.

but if you give Wade prime Shaq, then Gasol and dwight howard he has 5 rings as well.

remember Wade had lamar and caron in 04 in the 2 round.

kobe couldn't take Lamar past round 1 until they got Gasol.



Wade lead and then passed it on to Lebron and didn't miss a beat.

Kobe would never let dwight be the focal point ever.

D wade still plays a all around game and plays smarter and believe me he wouldn't have this laker team under 500.

wade would feed howard.

aside from a token league MVP, Wade has done it all for years man.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  
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Beamer6178
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18. "*record scratch*"
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>Wade lead and then passed it on to Lebron and didn't miss a
> beat.
http://www.nba.com/playoffs/2011/finals/

they will ALL have this held against them on their career resume.


  
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19. "they did get to the finals"
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and that was growing pains

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  
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20. "lol"
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>remember Wade had lamar and caron in 04 in the 2 round.

that heat team went 42-40

they got to play a hornets team that went 41-41 in the 1st round

the east was abysmal back then

  
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22. "please stop introducing factual information into this discussion"
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>>remember Wade had lamar and caron in 04 in the 2 round.
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>that heat team went 42-40
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>they got to play a hornets team that went 41-41 in the 1st
>round
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>the east was abysmal back then

  
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25. "thats fine and all except for a few things"
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03/04 D Wade was a rookie and they got beat by a better pacers team who in turn lost to a better pistons team, who by the way beat the La Lakers for thetile back in 04.

yeah the west was better at that time,however detriot won the chip that year and in the east for a minute, you had to go through the D to get a crack at some jewlery.

bottom line D Wade been ballin from the jump.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  
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21. "if he wins another one WITHOUT Lebron, I'll entertain the discussion"
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