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"mantei te'o mystery solved: girl 6 was ronaiah tuiasosopo (swipe)"


  

          

turns out, that soft sexy voice on the other end of the line that te'o fell in love with was none other than his boy, ronaiah tuiasosopo. this clears up a big chunk of the mystery: ronaiah's motive. people kept wondering what's in this lennay kekua scam for him if he's not trying to get dudes for money. clearly now... obviously... he gay. and in that extra dark preacher's kid closet. there's no other reason to concoct a three-year nationwide crying game scam just to spend months on the phone sweet-talking another dude. in other news, te'o is borderline undraftable now. the quality of locker room and on-field jokes will be far too high for him to effectively compete in the NFL.


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8875990/lawyer-ronaiah-tuiasosopo-was-voice-talking-manti-teo
Manti Te'o was talking to man
Updated: January 24, 2013, 9:46 AM ET

The woman whose picture was used to create Manti Te'o's fake girlfriend has been identified, but the voice of the woman who had hours of late-night phone calls with the Notre Dame star linebacker has remained silent. Turns out that's because it reportedly was a man.

The lawyer for the man who has been identified as behind the hoax, Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, told the New York Daily News that his client disguised his voice and assumed the identity of Lennay Kekua to try to develop a relationship with Te'o.

Milton Grimes said that Te'o "thought it was a female he was talking with. It was Ronaiah as Lennay."

Grimes said that Tuiasosopo wasn't trying to hurt Te'o.

"This wasn't a prank to make fun," Grimes said, according to the newspaper. "It was establishing a communication with someone. ... It was a person with a troubled existence trying to reach out and communicate and have a relationship."

Grimes wouldn't characterize the type of relationship Tuiasosopo wanted with the Heisman Trophy runner-up.

"I wouldn't describe his issues at this time," he said to the Daily News.

How could he get away with it, though? Tuiasosopo, 22, has had dramatic training, plays in a Christian band and even auditioned last year for the television show "The Voice."

"Come on, Hollywood does it all the time," Grimes said of his client pretending to be a woman. "People can do that."

The ruse apparently worked for many, many hours on the phone. A source close to Te'o gave ESPN's Jeremy Schaap documents that the source says are Te'o's AT&T phone records from May 11 to Sept. 12, the date that Kekua was supposed to have died of leukemia. The logs are not originals, but spreadsheets sent via emails, and could not be independently verified.

The records show that in that four-month span -- when Te'o has said he believed Kekua to be in a Los Angeles hospital recovering from an accident and being treated for cancer -- Te'o made and received more than 1,000 calls totaling more than 500 hours in length from the same number in the 661 area code. The 661 area code covers Lancaster, Calif., which is part of Los Angeles County. The source told Schaap that Te'o believed the 661 phone number in question was Kekua's.
Of these calls, 110 were more than 60 minutes in length, including several that were several hundred minutes long. In an ESPN interview Friday, and in interviews with both ESPN and Sports Illustrated last fall, Te'o said he was on the phone "every single night" with a person he believed to be Kekua, often for long stretches late at night.

On Friday, he said to Schaap, "I'd be on the phone. And she had complications from the accident and, she said the only thing that could help her sleep was if I was on the phone. So I would be on the phone, and I'd have the phone on the whole night."

From the records, it does not appear that Te'o was on the phone every single night for the entire night, but the volume of calls and their duration is sizable.

Meanwhile, the woman whose photo was used as the "face" of the Twitter account of Te'o's supposed girlfriend made an appearance Wednesday, saying the man allegedly behind the hoax confessed and apologized to her.
Diane O'Meara told NBC's "Today" show that Tuiasosopo used pictures of her without her knowledge in creating Kekua.

O'Meara also said that she had been asked to send pictures of her showing support for Tuiasosopo's cousin, who he said had been injured in a car crash, by holding up a sign saying "MSMK." Asked why she would send the photo, she said, "We're raised to be polite," and added that she almost would feel guilty if she hadn't sent it.

The original Deadspin.com story on the hoax reported a similar scenario and posted similar photos, although O'Meara was not identified by name at that time. The site reported that the "MSMK" photo was briefly used as a Twitter avatar and background for a Kekua account.

But that is not the only way it appears to have been used. In Te'o's interview with Schaap on Friday night, Te'o said he explicitly requested such a photo of Kekua after she re-emerged Dec. 6. He asked that the photo have her initials (Lennay is a nickname) held up to the camera to prove to him she was who she said she was.

"So I told her, 'OK, take another picture. And this time I want you to hold a paper up with your initials, MSMK, which is her initials, the date and you throwing up the sign,' " Te'o said during the two-and-a-half-hour interview.

It is unclear whether it is actually O'Meara holding the sign with the date Dec. 21 in the photo or whether the image was Photoshopped.

O'Meara also said she doesn't know whether Te'o was involved, but "If Manti is truly innocent, I empathize with him."

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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I'da gone with "daamn homie, your fake girlfriend was a maaan homie"
Jan 24th 2013
1
So who plays who in the movie version?
Jan 24th 2013
2
I'm just hoping for Mario Lopez as Manti
Jan 24th 2013
4
      this is gonna end up on lifetime.
Jan 24th 2013
5
      of course it is is. the feature film version of this is a
Jan 24th 2013
11
      no bullshit I'd watch a Mario as Manti movie.
Jan 24th 2013
7
      Cosign.
Jan 24th 2013
53
      Rob Schneider could pull it off
Jan 24th 2013
8
      Bobby Moynihan nailed his deepness
Jan 24th 2013
15
This fool prolly over there touching himself at night to his boy
Jan 24th 2013
3
te'o is borderline undraftable now
Jan 24th 2013
6
yea that's taking it way too far lol, it's only been a week and interest
Jan 24th 2013
10
there's no lottery in the nfl.
Jan 24th 2013
33
being drafted in the top 10 is like hitting the lottery
Jan 24th 2013
39
obviously not literally undraftable, but would you want your team
Jan 24th 2013
86
      I'm not convinced
Jan 25th 2013
110
      If a team's need is defense, I think he's still in the top 5 prospects
Jan 25th 2013
117
      SD at #11?
Jan 25th 2013
137
'Had dramatic training'=gay
Jan 24th 2013
9
the initial reports had him behind this
Jan 24th 2013
12
      it would have been a big story either way
Jan 24th 2013
13
so dude was able to maintain an authentic female voice for literally....
Jan 24th 2013
14
I bet dude was going to go tranny to get Manti to hit...
Jan 24th 2013
16
werd. no fish involved. that's the whole issue. nm
Jan 24th 2013
26
the catfish turned out to be a rainbow trout, yo
Jan 24th 2013
82
      lmao
Jan 25th 2013
120
Polynesians can hae those deep voices though
Jan 24th 2013
31
it was Polamalu on the other line
Jan 24th 2013
34
yeah i was thinking the same thing, wow, that is dedication
Jan 24th 2013
73
^^^
Jan 24th 2013
80
called it
Jan 24th 2013
17
I mean we all realize voice-masking software exists ... right?
Jan 24th 2013
18
right...you have a 'friend' with this problem.
Jan 24th 2013
22
      wait -- did you go to the same summer camp??
Jan 24th 2013
25
      *ded*
Jan 24th 2013
27
      *runs away crying*
Jan 24th 2013
32
      HEY! JOEY JOE JOE!!
Jan 24th 2013
48
lol
Jan 24th 2013
19
*puzzled*
Jan 24th 2013
55
      he stopped being hired..... eventually.
Jan 25th 2013
109
           *puzzled*
Jan 25th 2013
112
                So you think T'eo won't get drafted?
Jan 25th 2013
114
knowing all of this...lmmfao at all the times ronananaiah
Jan 24th 2013
20
aww dayum, dude. your girl stood you up again? i can make u feel better....
Jan 24th 2013
28
      RE: aww dayum, dude. your girl stood you up again? i can make u feel bet...
Jan 25th 2013
132
this is all a gay coverup
Jan 24th 2013
21
told y'all. he was on the phone talkin to Lenny. tawmbout what u got on?
Jan 24th 2013
23
oh, word? you got on boxers, too?
Jan 24th 2013
24
      LMAO
Jan 24th 2013
29
This whole thing is a gay cover up.
Jan 24th 2013
30
Oh Manti you got me so hard....uhh... I mean wet...
Jan 24th 2013
35
lolol
Jan 24th 2013
36
*dead*
Jan 24th 2013
37
haha
Jan 24th 2013
40
I'm at work and busted out with the biggest LOL. Damn you!
Jan 24th 2013
41
Shitt
Jan 24th 2013
98
RE: This whole thing is a gay cover up.
Jan 24th 2013
43
Yeah. It's unfortunate that they went to these lengths to hide it.
Jan 24th 2013
45
the crazy thing is...they succeeded. Nobody is running with this angle
Jan 24th 2013
69
      RE: the crazy thing is...they succeeded. Nobody is running with this ang...
Jan 24th 2013
72
           Yup. Trying to "out" him would be such a high risk move for a credible
Jan 24th 2013
79
'Lennay' was friends with several other players. All gay? All coverups?
Jan 24th 2013
76
      Do you know the context under which they became friends?
Jan 25th 2013
131
wow.... well.... from my experience with Samoan young people
Jan 24th 2013
38
lol @ "dramatic training" = "maintain a second life."
Jan 24th 2013
42
yup, Ronaiah == human sword sheath
Jan 24th 2013
44
      Q: why is "NFL security" doing surveillance on a college kids love life?
Jan 24th 2013
47
           A: Combine character check
Jan 24th 2013
49
The Voicemails
Jan 24th 2013
46
damn, thats pretty good.
Jan 24th 2013
50
that site isn't working?
Jan 24th 2013
52
I got it up, I'd guess it crashed from site traffic...
Jan 24th 2013
57
lolololool i'm dying picturing a dude talkin on the phone liek
Jan 24th 2013
84
um, that's clearly a dude
Jan 24th 2013
95
      Ehhhh...not really. I know a lot of girls who sound more masculine
Jan 24th 2013
99
When does Tony Rocky Horror get thrown out the window?
Jan 24th 2013
51
the idea that Te'o is gay is as stupid as the idea that he was involved
Jan 24th 2013
54
You're going pretty hard on this issue, RJ.
Jan 24th 2013
56
cuz people are stupidly assuming fact re: things they CAN'T know
Jan 24th 2013
58
there's a difference between assuming and speculating
Jan 24th 2013
59
      which is why I'm not really upset, but it's rjcc's bread + butter
Jan 24th 2013
62
      damn, u mean I been getting catfished by OKP for 13 damn years?!?
Jan 24th 2013
85
whenever people say stupid shit
Jan 24th 2013
61
wherever there is injustice, you will find us.
Jan 24th 2013
66
this reply makes things so much clearer for me!
Jan 24th 2013
77
he digests information as it's presented to him. not a big deal really
Jan 24th 2013
65
umm, i think u can figure out why
Jan 24th 2013
90
      LMAO
Jan 25th 2013
103
      because I want to have gay sex with you, obvs.
Jan 25th 2013
134
If a man falls in love with another man what does that make him?
Jan 24th 2013
60
why not ask Manti Te'o, wouldn't he know best?
Jan 24th 2013
63
if it's a man he thinks is a woman? not gay.
Jan 24th 2013
64
      I agree with you here.
Jan 24th 2013
68
      I don't know, I'm not invested any way. Had my initial lulz.
Jan 24th 2013
71
But we can agree that Ronaiah is all likelihood gay, right?
Jan 24th 2013
67
      the people who do this shit are bizarre
Jan 24th 2013
70
      yeah it's a sickness that's hard to properly quantify
Jan 24th 2013
75
      I certainly agree on this part:
Jan 24th 2013
78
           something I understand way more in 2022 than I did in 2013
Aug 24th 2022
164
      yeah. I don't think Manti is gay after listening to the vms but Ronaiaia...
Jan 24th 2013
74
at BEST Teo is a liar and an imbecile. Whatever. Next story.
Jan 24th 2013
81
that's basically where I'm at with it
Jan 24th 2013
91
      Lol, you have the real story.
Jan 24th 2013
92
           lol. what is the story that i want?
Jan 24th 2013
94
The voicemails are tripping me out.
Jan 24th 2013
83
I don't think doing it to someone is THAT weird.
Jan 24th 2013
87
Who'd want to do it for "fun" for three fucking years tho?
Jan 24th 2013
88
*shrugs* I'd troll, like, TO or Delonte West for a decade if I could.
Jan 24th 2013
89
      by sweet-talking them on the phone though?
Jan 24th 2013
93
But dude, Javele goes HARD on hoes! You heard about the Chipotle
Jan 24th 2013
100
javale only dumb on the court
Jan 25th 2013
104
I once left a vm on Carmen Electra's cell pretending to be Dennis Rodman
Jan 25th 2013
108
      yo I for real laughed at this.
Jan 25th 2013
111
anyone have a link to Roniah's voice?
Jan 24th 2013
96
they played it on PTI, it's gotta be on the net's somewhere
Jan 24th 2013
97
Voicemail clips: WTF B dude sound like a chick for real. *gags*
Jan 25th 2013
101
I stopped it after 5 secs
Jan 25th 2013
102
Nigga i listened to half of two clips and wanted to hurl.
Jan 25th 2013
107
Yo if that's a dude doing that...,sheeeeeeeit, that's wild
Jan 25th 2013
105
Well I'll be.
Jan 25th 2013
106
Sounded like a woman to me
Jan 25th 2013
118
Update: it WAS a chic
Jan 25th 2013
113
i was done with this story 6 updates ago.
Jan 25th 2013
115
m. night shamalam wildin, yo. nm
Jan 25th 2013
116
ok...makes sense...because I heard the recording..and if that
Jan 25th 2013
119
yeah real classy.
Jan 25th 2013
121
      I would not want to be in that dude's shoes....I'm just sayin...they
Jan 25th 2013
122
           he's gonna be at one of those Earl Sweatshirt schools soon
Jan 25th 2013
123
                Lol
Jan 25th 2013
127
is this a "banksy"? is that what this is?
Jan 25th 2013
124
There'd been mentions of the cousin's involvement for a while
Jan 25th 2013
125
fall on the sword ... i get jokes!
Jan 25th 2013
126
LOL wait, i thought we had the full story last night?!?!?
Jan 25th 2013
128
Stop speculating.
Jan 25th 2013
129
none of these "updates" have been new information
Jan 25th 2013
133
We had the 'full story' a long time ago.
Jan 25th 2013
136
cool, i'll fully accept this update as truth
Jan 25th 2013
130
over this story but Ronaiah should speak, do a few interviews
Jan 25th 2013
135
lol @ the avy
Jan 25th 2013
138
So now the Gay portion of the Manti story will come to the light (link)
Jan 30th 2013
139
^^ for Netflix
Aug 23rd 2022
140
oh wow lol
Aug 23rd 2022
141
A lot of these posts and takes aged poorly.
Aug 23rd 2022
142
Ctrl-F "thatr" *wipes brow*
Aug 23rd 2022
145
^^^^^^^^^^^
Aug 23rd 2022
148
^^^^^
Aug 23rd 2022
150
GREAT documentary...watched it twice...
Aug 23rd 2022
143
Yep.
Aug 23rd 2022
144
gotta check it out
Aug 23rd 2022
146
I watched it, crazy, I feel bad for Manti, even though he did go on...
Aug 24th 2022
152
RT cost him at least and extra $10m, probably more.
Aug 24th 2022
153
especially since he is apparently out of football now, aside from his...
Aug 24th 2022
155
      I doubt that was a factor after that first year
Aug 24th 2022
157
           agreed
Aug 24th 2022
159
           RE: I doubt that was a factor after that first year
Aug 24th 2022
160
dude dealt with crippling anxiety...
Aug 24th 2022
154
Watched this and the And1 doc yesterday
Aug 24th 2022
158
funny how things turned out exactly the way I said.
Aug 24th 2022
161
damn, Warren NAILED it, in post 38
Aug 23rd 2022
147
My wife watches 90 Day Fiance.. which means I watch it too
Aug 24th 2022
151
RE: My wife watches 90 Day Fiance.. which means I watch it too
Aug 25th 2022
168
Sure did.
Aug 24th 2022
156
people refused to believe that he could be that naive
Aug 24th 2022
162
I think that's true. But also
Aug 25th 2022
169
damn, no kidding
Aug 24th 2022
167
Wonder what else he's been right about all these years now.
Aug 25th 2022
170
I've been catfished like 19 times since this story first came out lol
Aug 23rd 2022
149
...
Aug 24th 2022
163
      thanks for your research!
Aug 24th 2022
166
           it'd be funny if I've been the one catfishing you for the last ten years
Aug 28th 2022
171
the "lennay comes back from the dead" part had to be terrifying
Aug 24th 2022
165
“Naya” is absolutely deranged.
Aug 28th 2022
172
I'm not saying this because I've been catfishing 3xkrazy for ten years
Aug 28th 2022
173
      What?
Aug 29th 2022
174
           idk man he doing his usual bit I guess
Aug 29th 2022
175
           lol
Aug 29th 2022
176
           these are his/her/they confessions??
Aug 29th 2022
183
           also my thoughts when reading that post
Aug 29th 2022
177
           what's your confusion
Aug 30th 2022
184
Do we think the doc let Ronaiah/Naya off the hook?
Aug 29th 2022
178
Not “off the hook”
Aug 29th 2022
179
Nah they couldn’t make her look any worse than she did herself
Aug 29th 2022
180
No. Also, i'm FINE with letting her have some redemption...
Aug 29th 2022
181
^^^All of this
Aug 29th 2022
182
nah man you gotta say naya is deranged
Aug 30th 2022
185
Not intentionally or by design or anything
Aug 30th 2022
186
Nah, especially seeing that Manti expressed forgiveness
Aug 31st 2022
187

KosherSam
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1. "I'da gone with "daamn homie, your fake girlfriend was a maaan homie""
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but yeah.

*Jews you*

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2. "So who plays who in the movie version?"
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i ask because I'm gonna need Hollywood to simplify and make sense of all this for me.

  

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4. "I'm just hoping for Mario Lopez as Manti"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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5. "this is gonna end up on lifetime."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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veritas
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11. "of course it is is. the feature film version of this is a "
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2 minute sketch in Scary Movie 74.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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7. "no bullshit I'd watch a Mario as Manti movie."
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53. "Cosign. "
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www.twitter.com/luvlee2003

  

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8. "Rob Schneider could pull it off"
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15. "Bobby Moynihan nailed his deepness"
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http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/article_large/public/2013/01/20/bobby-moynihan-manti-teo_0.png

  

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3. "This fool prolly over there touching himself at night to his boy"
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Crying Game status shit right here

  

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6. "te'o is borderline undraftable now"
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word?

Rapistburger and RayRay the Murderer seem to have made a career in the NFL

despite personal transgressions

why would a college prank make a previously lottery projected pick undraftable?

people keep taking this story to extremes

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10. "yea that's taking it way too far lol, it's only been a week and interest"
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in this story is dropping... nobody is going to give a shit come april, let alone 2 years from now...

  

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33. "there's no lottery in the nfl."
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39. "being drafted in the top 10 is like hitting the lottery"
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but I think you know what I meant

technically there isn't

metaphorically there is

have fun proof reading the internet

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86. "obviously not literally undraftable, but would you want your team"
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using a first-round pick on this guy? every draft pick comes with a level of uncertainty-- they might be a hall of famer, they might be out of the league in three years. but with te'o comes the rock solid guarantees that you're drafting the biggest idiot on planet earth and that the jokes directed at your team will now flow like water. those are both big red flags to me. you want a guy-- especially on D-- who can command respect in the locker room and on the field, from teammates and opponents. you also want a guy who can make it from the hotel to the stadium without losing all his money to a nigerian prince (who looks suspiciously like a guy in blackface wearing a floral-patterned tablecloth). regardless of his skills on the field, te'o fails on both those levels. he'd have to fall pretty far before i invited that circus into my locker room.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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110. "I'm not convinced "
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there aren't more than a couple good players in the NFL right today who are as stupid or sheltered as he is.

The way this story went down, and how unique it is, make it seem above and beyond. But I'm not sure it's a bigger circus than some of this other shit.

Like fucking (ha) Antonio Cromartie or Albert Haynesworth or these dudes who chronically drive drunk or guys like Michael Pittman or Larry Johnson who STAY beating women.

Basically all those guys got multiple chances to redeem themselves. It's not like any of them blew up a team.

  

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117. "If a team's need is defense, I think he's still in the top 5 prospects"
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to answer your question directly

No, I would't have any problem with my team drafting this kid

based on what I saw on the field, he's a player

Bama has made more than a few teams look bad, Johnny football notwithstanding

I expect the story to fade, but still be an issue at the combine, draft day, etc...

but I think he's addressed the issues, answered the questions and withstood the ridicule well

that also counts toward his character

he had to look his parents in the eye and say, I lied to you

that's not an easy thing to do

and as far as this following him to the NFL

I don't see it

I know the story is a lot bigger than some

but fans aren't bringing laptops to Panthers games

fans aren't offering tattoos to TP for his jersey

etc...

after the SB, the attention will turn toward the draft

in that 2 month or so lull in action

I expect another story to take the headlines

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137. "SD at #11? "
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9. "'Had dramatic training'=gay"
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I wasn't with you until I read that.

Nah I mean the initial reports had him behind this, it's not exactly news but now shit is just getting confirmed. That one blonde chick basically outed this on Twitter right away.

Definitely bizarre stuff.

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12. "the initial reports had him behind this"
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and I brought this up in the previous thread

did that Deadspin article sensationalize the story

they basically ignored the Ronaiah Catfish angle

and went completely at Manti

with the motive being trying to get sympathy Heisman votes

had they just presented the facts

and outed the holes in the story

I don't think this story would have been as big as it was initially

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13. "it would have been a big story either way"
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and of course the deadspin article was sensationalized...its the media.

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14. "so dude was able to maintain an authentic female voice for literally...."
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100s of hours?
that would be impressive. transexuals struggle with that and they live as women 24/7 and take hormones
iono, they were talking for hours late at night when I'd imagine vocal cord/mental fatigue would set in
supposedly the girl would fall asleep while talking (though that could have been an act too)
if anything this supports the theory that teo was in on it as a means to maintain a gay relationship
i'm guessing many of these conversations occurred while he roomed with another ND football player
easier to explain all night convo's if they are happening with the "girlfriend" no one ever met

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16. "I bet dude was going to go tranny to get Manti to hit..."
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anyone that obsessed is obviously attracted to the person.

This goes beyond catfish....

its gay

  

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26. "werd. no fish involved. that's the whole issue. nm"
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82. "the catfish turned out to be a rainbow trout, yo"
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31. "Polynesians can hae those deep voices though"
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34. "it was Polamalu on the other line"
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73. "yeah i was thinking the same thing, wow, that is dedication"
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80. "^^^"
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This still doesnt prove to me that he was duped. I still have no evidence that he wasnt in on it.

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17. "called it"
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18. "I mean we all realize voice-masking software exists ... right?"
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but besides that, I do have a male friend who more often than not gets called "ma'am" when talking to strangers on the phone or even at the drive thru and shit like that. he just has a soft voice. it's really not that big of a deal.

besides that, most of this article is built out of what his lawyer is saying, so who fucking cares...

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22. "right...you have a 'friend' with this problem."
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is his name Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoh?

  

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25. "wait -- did you go to the same summer camp??"
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27. "*ded*"
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>is his name Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoh?

bwahahahahaha.


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32. "*runs away crying*"
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48. "HEY! JOEY JOE JOE!!"
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19. "lol"
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>in other news, te'o is borderline undraftable now

Please, this is the same league that pays wife beaters and drunk drivers millions upon millions.

TO was a walking sideshow and he still got contracts.

T'eo will still get drafted, probably in the 1st.

  

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55. "*puzzled*"
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>TO was a walking sideshow and he still got contracts.

TO couldn't get a job one season after putting up
900+ yards in less than a full season

He's a perfect example of how being good isn't enough


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109. "he stopped being hired..... eventually."
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Regardless, even if that's a bad example...

NFL teams generally do not give a shit about anything.

If you play good football, they will pay you.

When is the last time a talented player went unsigned for more than a year?

  

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112. "*puzzled* "
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>When is the last time a talented player went unsigned for more
>than a year?

"More than a year" is arbitrary

Lots of good players don't get contracts because they
are dicks and headcases

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114. "So you think T'eo won't get drafted?"
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20. "knowing all of this...lmmfao at all the times ronananaiah"
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would show up when he was supposed to be meeting the other dude he catfished.

that's what happened right? this story is so confusing.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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28. "aww dayum, dude. your girl stood you up again? i can make u feel better...."
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^^^

oh, no. let me massage that for you. its cool. i'm in sports medicine...

yeah.


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132. "RE: aww dayum, dude. your girl stood you up again? i can make u feel bet..."
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>^^^
>
>oh, no. let me massage that for you. its cool. i'm in sports
>medicine...
>
>yeah.


*dead*


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21. "this is all a gay coverup"
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he might as well come out like his fellow Samoan, Esera Tuaolo

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLy8f99ruEpX5VFFQ3l_W8JuM-TXXKaCQkeXj3aZQIHGJ8kwchkw

  

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23. "told y'all. he was on the phone talkin to Lenny. tawmbout what u got on?"
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24. "oh, word? you got on boxers, too?"
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29. "LMAO "
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30. "This whole thing is a gay cover up. "
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35. "Oh Manti you got me so hard....uhh... I mean wet..."
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36. "lolol"
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37. "*dead*"
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41. "I'm at work and busted out with the biggest LOL. Damn you!"
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43. "RE: This whole thing is a gay cover up. "
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yeah I'm leaning this way too

none of this new info explains dude making up how they met and his fam saying she used to come visit them
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45. "Yeah. It's unfortunate that they went to these lengths to hide it."
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More people are leaning that way. They just won't bring it out in the public. Scared to.

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79. "Yup. Trying to "out" him would be such a high risk move for a credible "
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>More people are leaning that way. They just won't bring it
>out in the public. Scared to.

journalist. No matter how much sense it might make, it's still a theory unless Te'o says it himself.
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76. "'Lennay' was friends with several other players. All gay? All coverups?"
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Y'all trying to find the most complicated, conspiratorial angles to this shit when the story's basic as hell.

This is just some shit that dude does. Been doing it since 2008. Te'o is just the dummy that bit the hardest.

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131. "Do you know the context under which they became friends? "
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Through Teo? Possibly?

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38. "wow.... well.... from my experience with Samoan young people"
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particularly those who come from a disciplined religous background.... I could see someone being taken advantage of like that.

There is a certain naive innocence about a lot of these young people. The biggest toughest looking dude you could imagine would break down crying at the drop of a hat at the thought of one of their parents or grandparents being told they misbehaved in school.

some of them you have to really watch in terms of them being taken advantage of or misled.... I'd even use the term shelterd as far as how their families guide them...

I could see Mantei getting hoodwinked like this.....

Tuiososopo seems like a very troubled ..maybe even sick young man.

  

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42. "lol @ "dramatic training" = "maintain a second life.""
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I bet that audition for The Voice really helped him out with his table work!

These guys are gay. It's totally fine. Kinda shitty they made up this story, and kinda shitty that Ronaiah is going to take all of the heat just to protect Manti, but it is what it is.

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44. "yup, Ronaiah == human sword sheath "
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> and kinda shitty that Ronaiah is going to take
>all of the heat just to protect Manti, but it is what it is.

it was only a matter of time before NFL security or somebody leaked that all the calls were going to ronaiah
might as well get in front of that with more implausible weirdness

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47. "Q: why is "NFL security" doing surveillance on a college kids love life?"
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49. "A: Combine character check"
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46. "The Voicemails"
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http://www.katiecouric.com/features/hear-the-voicemails-from-manti-teos-girlfriend-a-katie-exclusive/

  

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50. "damn, thats pretty good."
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dude was all about trying to guilt trip manti "youre either with the boys or the girls" lolol

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52. "that site isn't working?"
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57. "I got it up, I'd guess it crashed from site traffic..."
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it's as (non)interesting as this whole story is, really -- three ~10s voicemails of a watery, digitaly (you know, cell phone-y) high pitched voice saying "love you, thinking about you" etc.

it could be a hoax. it could be a fake. god I don't know why we all care so much...

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84. "lolololool i'm dying picturing a dude talkin on the phone liek"
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that.

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95. "um, that's clearly a dude"
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i realize i'm working with the benefit of hindsight, but there's a certain quality to the female voice that can't be faked. all those "i love yous," on the other hand, were 100% real.

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99. "Ehhhh...not really. I know a lot of girls who sound more masculine"
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than that, even those who don't really have a low voice. It's easy for us to say this now, same way you see a tranny that you know is a tranny and say "Yeah that's a dude, look at the cheekbones!!!"

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51. "When does Tony Rocky Horror get thrown out the window?"
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54. "the idea that Te'o is gay is as stupid as the idea that he was involved"
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if you think that you're an idiot

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56. "You're going pretty hard on this issue, RJ. "
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Not sure why

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58. "cuz people are stupidly assuming fact re: things they CAN'T know"
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it's kinda right in RJ's wheel house.

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59. "there's a difference between assuming and speculating"
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if you don't like speculation then you're on the wrong message boards. most things people say here aren't fact.

  

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62. "which is why I'm not really upset, but it's rjcc's bread + butter"
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personally, I do consider speculating on a person's sexuality when you have no real grounds to make that judgment more reflective of the speculator than the speculatee.

but that's neither here nor there, just "imo" I suppose...

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85. "damn, u mean I been getting catfished by OKP for 13 damn years?!?"
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> most things people say here aren't fact.

  

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61. "whenever people say stupid shit"
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I'll be there.


assuming I'm not drunk in which case I don't give a shit what stupid shit you're saying, but if I have to be sober, you have to say things that aren't the dumbest thing i've ever heard. that's the deal.

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66. "wherever there is injustice, you will find us."
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wherever there is suffering, we'll be there.
wherever liberty is threatened, you will find...

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77. "this reply makes things so much clearer for me!"
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Cuz I've kinda thought before "Rjcc is hella cool and laidback in person, but he straight snaps on people on the boards sometimes"... it's because we've only hung out when getting fucked up, LOL!

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65. "he digests information as it's presented to him. not a big deal really"
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most ppl in this country do that
it's the very reason why this situation even exists actually

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90. "umm, i think u can figure out why"
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>Not sure why

  

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103. "LMAO"
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http://i.qkme.me/3r4jix.jpg

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134. "because I want to have gay sex with you, obvs."
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60. "If a man falls in love with another man what does that make him?"
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63. "why not ask Manti Te'o, wouldn't he know best?"
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64. "if it's a man he thinks is a woman? not gay."
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Gay men fall in love with men they believe are men.

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68. "I agree with you here."
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I don't care about this story THAT much but I think it's totally possible the dude is gay.

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71. "I don't know, I'm not invested any way. Had my initial lulz. "
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But in gonna leave it be, it's a genuine question that I'm pondering over. Was the relationship asexual in nature? Those kind of questions.

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67. "But we can agree that Ronaiah is all likelihood gay, right?"
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Or at least still trying to sort out his, um, "issues"?

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70. "the people who do this shit are bizarre"
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it seems likely that he's into guys and this is his way of working it out w/o coming out of the closet, but you never know.

somebody just posted about the chick who was catfishing SEVERAL redskins players at once?

and not even going after money or anything?

they just want the attention

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75. "yeah it's a sickness that's hard to properly quantify"
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it's why the DSM exists and why it's constantly being revised amidst minor controversies.

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78. "I certainly agree on this part:"
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>it seems likely that he's into guys and this is his way of
>working it out w/o coming out of the closet, but you never
>know.
>
>somebody just posted about the chick who was catfishing
>SEVERAL redskins players at once?
>
>and not even going after money or anything?
>
>they just want the attention

With Manti, I'm willing to believe that the kid is sheltered, naive, and possibly dumb enough to be fooled by Ronaiah for three years. I think it's completely possible that in the back of his mind, he "knew" something was up, but he convinced himself otherwise, 'cause the alternative was the "love of his life" wasn't real. Psychologically, you never know.

I do believe he kept lying about after he found out without a shadow of a doubt what was happening, partly for psychological reasons, and partly because the alternative was looking really dumb.

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164. "something I understand way more in 2022 than I did in 2013"
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> I think it's completely possible that in the back of his mind, he "knew" something was up, but he convinced himself otherwise, 'cause the alternative was the "love of his life" wasn't real.

Is just how powerful the "well what I believe has to be true, because if it isn't, then all this other stuff I've lined up around it falls apart" urge is.

once the hook is in that's it.


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74. "yeah. I don't think Manti is gay after listening to the vms but Ronaiaia..."
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is at the very least unsure about his sexuality.

  

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81. "at BEST Teo is a liar and an imbecile. Whatever. Next story."
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91. "that's basically where I'm at with it"
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pretty much no chance at getting the real story here

  

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92. "Lol, you have the real story."
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You just don't want it.

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94. "lol. what is the story that i want?"
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i have no idea who u are. but im really impressed with your ability to crawl inside my brain.

stories from lawyers and PR teams are exactly that. stories.

like dude said above about all we know for sure is that t'eo is stupid and a liar. beyond that is whatever to me. this story was fun for a few days but now its stale and depressing. im sorry for those whose lives are so lonely and miserable that they turn to this kind of shit.

  

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83. "The voicemails are tripping me out. "
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Definitely could fool me into thinking its a woman and I had no inkling something was suspicious.

I'm tripping off of the time spent on this though. Who the heck has time to spend hours playing on the phone with someone like this? Lol

I'm curious if Manti believed ronaiah knew "Lenny". Or was there any connection in Manti's head between the two people.

Its interesting to see ultimately how much info comes out about what happened here since no laws were broken. I think the only reason we've gotten this much info in the first place is because all of the involve parties are young and all about putting their business on display.




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87. "I don't think doing it to someone is THAT weird. "
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In fact I think if done right it's hilarious on some "CAN YOU FUCKING BELIEVE THIS HEISMAN TROPHY CANDIDATE IS BUYING THIS?"

Hell, let me get Javale McGee's personal number and it's a wrap.

  

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88. "Who'd want to do it for "fun" for three fucking years tho?"
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I mean, that's a serious time commitment, especially with phone calls involved. That's why I think a lot of this was Ronaiah's own "issues."

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89. "*shrugs* I'd troll, like, TO or Delonte West for a decade if I could."
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93. "by sweet-talking them on the phone though?"
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that ain't trolling.

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100. "But dude, Javele goes HARD on hoes! You heard about the Chipotle"
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story? And I laughed when he took a girl home who I had met a week earlier...hope he don't have kids with her though, she look like Lamar Odom

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104. "javale only dumb on the court"
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108. "I once left a vm on Carmen Electra's cell pretending to be Dennis Rodman"
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this was post-divorce by a year or so, it was like 1 AM at a bar in Philly & I still don't know or remember how my boy had acquired her number but I was sure he was bullshitting so I had to call & hear it myself, next thing you know it's Carmen's outgoing message playing in my ear.

I just started speaking in a drunk monotone after the beep saying I missed her and still loved her.

She called back my boy's phone that I'd called from the next day, left a message saying 'Hi Brian, um.....I think we met in Dallas last year but anyway, I guess you were with Dennis last night or maybe you're still with him. If you can tell me how to get ahold of him or have him call me back I'd appreciate it, I'm a little worried about him lately'.

Now I really don't sound like Dennis Rodman in my normal vocal tone nor am I particularly known for imitations but I do in my state of inebriation vaguely remember keeping it short & sweet in a kind of deep half-mumble so I guess somehow that was enough to sell his former wife.

I get the feeling she's not much smarter than Manti Te'o.

  

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111. "yo I for real laughed at this. "
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a buddy of mine has Tom Brady's number. We've confirmed it's his through people we know that work in entertainment in New York who have had to speak with Tom directly about some appearances. On an iPhone it shows "Beverly Hills CA"

We've called it a couple times and get real cysed when it rings but it goes to his voice message. It does sound like him.

  

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96. "anyone have a link to Roniah's voice?"
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friend of mine said he heard it on tv and said he did sound like a broad.

  

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97. "they played it on PTI, it's gotta be on the net's somewhere"
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101. "Voicemail clips: WTF B dude sound like a chick for real. *gags* "
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102. "I stopped it after 5 secs"
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Ronny got problems.

  

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107. "Nigga i listened to half of two clips and wanted to hurl. "
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this bol got problems and needs therapy.

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105. "Yo if that's a dude doing that...,sheeeeeeeit, that's wild"
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They know that for sure, that it ain't a chick?

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106. "Well I'll be."
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118. "Sounded like a woman to me"
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I don't know how you do that

but it sounded like a woman IMO

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113. "Update: it WAS a chic "
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Didn't want to use ESPN, but oh well



ESPN.com news services | January 25, 2013

Hollywood couldn't make this up. One day after a report that the voice of Manti Te'o's fake girlfriend belonged to the man who masterminded the hoax, Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, another voice has emerged -- that of his female cousin.

Relatives of Tino Tuiasosopo, a woman in her mid-20s who lives in Pago, Pago, American Samoa, told the New York Post that Te'o has been speaking to her.
"Tino is the girl that Manti has been talking to all these months," said a Tuiasosopo cousin, according to the Post.

In an interview with ESPN's Jeremy Schaap on Friday, Te'o said that he had discovered that a cast of characters portrayed Lennay Kekua, the fake girlfriend who had supposedly been in a bad car accident and then died of leukemia.

When asked who he had been speaking to all that time, Te'o said: "Two guys and a girl are responsible for the whole thing."

He was asked if he knew who they were and he said: "I don't know. I don't know. According to Ronaiah, Ronaiah's one."

According to Ronaiah Tuiasosopo's relatives, another is Tino Tuiasosopo, who works for her father's construction company.

A source told the newspaper that she became the voice of Te'o's girlfriend after another long-distance relationship that had "extraordinary similarities" to the Te'o saga ended in late 2011. Te'o says his relationship with Kekua began in 2009, however, making it very possible others portrayed Kekua.

Tino Tuiasosopo's relatives are certain that at least on voice mails Te'o supplied for his appearance on Katie Couric's television show this week, Tino's voice can be heard.

A person identified as Tino Tuiasosopo's cousin said: "There is no doubt whatsoever that it's Tino."

After listening to the tape of "Kekua" hysterically accusing Te'o of having another girl in his room, one of the Post's sources said: "That's the way cries when she's feeling sorry for herself. Its her, that's the voice."

Although the quality of the recording is not very good on all of the clips, the voice does sound feminine.
"It didn't sound like a man," Te'o told Couric during the interview that aired Thursday. "It sounded like a woman. It's incredible that he can make that noise."

Others didn't think it sounded like a man either. "Good Morning America" sent the tapes to four audio experts, who were unanimous in saying that the voice on the tapes was that of a woman.

A Tuiasosopo relative thinks that Ronaiah Tuiasosopo's lawyer, Milton Grimes, told the New York Daily News that his client has been the voice all this time because his client "is determined to take the rap," according to the Post.

Grimes had been clear, however, Thursday. He said that Te'o "thought it was a female he was talking with. It was Ronaiah as Lennay."
Tuiasosopo, 22, has had dramatic training, plays in a Christian band and even auditioned last year for the television show "The Voice."

"Come on, Hollywood does it all the time," Grimes said of his client pretending to be a woman. "People can do that."

No matter the voice, Te'o did spend hours on the phone with somebody. A source close to Te'o gave ESPN's Schaap documents that the source says are Te'o's AT&T phone records from May 11 to Sept. 12, the date Kekua supposedly died of leukemia. The logs are not originals, but rather spreadsheets sent via emails, and could not be independently verified.
The records show that in the four-month span -- when Te'o has said he believed Kekua to be in a Los Angeles hospital recovering from an accident and being treated for cancer -- Te'o made and received more than 1,000 calls totaling more than 500 hours in length from the same number in the 661 area code. The 661 area code covers Lancaster, Calif., which is part of Los Angeles County. The source told Schaap that Te'o believed the 661 phone number in question was Kekua's.

Of these calls, 110 were more than 60 minutes in length, including several that were several hundred minutes long. In an ESPN interview last Friday, and in interviews with both ESPN and Sports Illustrated last fall, Te'o said he was on the phone "every single night" with a person he believed to be Kekua, often for long stretches late at night.

Last Friday, he said to Schaap in an off-camera interview: "I'd be on the phone. And she had complications from the accident and she said the only thing that could help her sleep was if I was on the phone. So I would be on the phone, and I'd have the phone on the whole night."

From the records, it does not appear that Te'o was on the phone every night for the entire night, but the volume of calls and their duration are sizable.


Information from ESPN's Jeremy Schaap and The Associated Press was used in this report.

  

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115. "i was done with this story 6 updates ago."
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i'm just here for lols now...let me know when the movie airs.

btw, i laugh at this sentence every time...

Tuiasosopo, 22, has had dramatic training, plays in a Christian band and even auditioned last year for the television show "The Voice."

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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116. "m. night shamalam wildin, yo. nm"
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119. "ok...makes sense...because I heard the recording..and if that"
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was a dude's voice...this is some Twilight zone stuff here man...

I guess Roniah was trying to take the rap all himself because I'm assuming he's already in a lot of trouble with his family....and didn't want to drag his cousin into it..

I think this will all start to fade away as far as Mantei is concerned..

from here on out the focus is going to be on Roniah and what would motivate him to do something so disturbing...not just to Mantei..but the other incidents they supposedly did on other people..

it's really sick.

  

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121. "yeah real classy."
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>I guess Roniah was trying to take the rap all himself because I'm assuming he's already in a lot of trouble with his family....and didn't want to drag his cousin into it..

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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122. "I would not want to be in that dude's shoes....I'm just sayin...they"
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family culture does not accept that type of thing towards one of their own like that..

somebody is gonna lump dude up if they haven't already.... they may send dude to the island for some "reprogramming"

  

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123. "he's gonna be at one of those Earl Sweatshirt schools soon"
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127. "Lol"
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124. "is this a "banksy"? is that what this is?"
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125. "There'd been mentions of the cousin's involvement for a while"
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When the lawyer said it was Ronaiah alone, figured it was him trying to fall on his sword for the rest of his family.

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126. "fall on the sword ... i get jokes!"
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128. "LOL wait, i thought we had the full story last night?!?!?"
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u have about 5 different parties involved in this and all of them are in code red damage control mode. its a sordid mess from every angle.

  

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129. "Stop speculating. "
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You sound dumb.

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133. "none of these "updates" have been new information"
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136. "We had the 'full story' a long time ago."
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Maybe it's bullshit, but it's the most likely story. Habitual scam artist conducts scam. Occam's Razor and shit.

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130. "cool, i'll fully accept this update as truth"
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until the media offers an adjustment tomorrow

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135. "over this story but Ronaiah should speak, do a few interviews"
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if he wants to take the wrap, man up and take the wrap... it could only help him because at this point people assume he is a deeply deranged invidual...

As f'd up as it is too he could easily flip this into $$ being the voice of catfishers, shit he should be hollering at mtv right now looking to join the cast as an expert in how to get into these peoples minds...

America will forgive this kid if he asks for it, many people in this country have done insanely embarrassing shit in the spotlight that people barely bat an eye at.

  

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138. "lol @ the avy"
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139. "So now the Gay portion of the Manti story will come to the light (link)"
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8896921/ronaiah-tuiasosopo-dr-phil-mcgraw-voice-manti-teo-not-it

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140. "^^ for Netflix "
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141. "oh wow lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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142. "A lot of these posts and takes aged poorly. "
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I think it should be a reminder to us to - I dunno…wait for the story?

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145. "Ctrl-F "thatr" *wipes brow*"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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148. "^^^^^^^^^^^"
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150. "^^^^^"
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<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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143. "GREAT documentary...watched it twice..."
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really felt for Teo. I will say, just to keep it honest...I never thought he was part of it. My thing was always...HOW did he fall for this?? This doc really does help you understand.

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144. "Yep."
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I know the common thought at the time was that he might have been gay. I feel like I thought that (think I searched these threads to see and I was cringing at I do at many old takes on here). But it definitely highlights his naivety and puts it into perspective why - and cultural nuance was not something we really thought as much about as we should have 10 years ago - not to mention the fact that "catfishing" as a concept was somewhat new and not all that mainstream. The Catfish movie came out in 2010 and the show (which REALLY pushed that into the mainstream) came out in late 2012...2 months before Manti's grandmother passed.

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146. "gotta check it out"
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152. "I watched it, crazy, I feel bad for Manti, even though he did go on..."
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to play in the NFL I think it definitely affected his career

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153. "RT cost him at least and extra $10m, probably more."
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Thats pretty brutal when you see that Manti was just a victim.

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155. "especially since he is apparently out of football now, aside from his..."
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performance on the field his name will forever be associated with the scandal and a lot of GM's will probably pass on having him on the roster even as a backup to avoid the unnecessary attention.

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157. "I doubt that was a factor after that first year"
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>performance on the field his name will forever be associated
>with the scandal and a lot of GM's will probably pass on
>having him on the roster even as a backup to avoid the
>unnecessary attention.

The story ran its course before he even debuted basically, and once it was clear that he was handling himself professionally and drama/crazy stories weren’t gonna follow the guy around, I doubt that GMs cared all that much. But the long-lasting effect (his anxiety issues) must have affected his performance/career prospects. It’s really a shame.

  

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159. "agreed"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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160. "RE: I doubt that was a factor after that first year"
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>>performance on the field his name will forever be
>associated
>>with the scandal and a lot of GM's will probably pass on
>>having him on the roster even as a backup to avoid the
>>unnecessary attention.
>
>The story ran its course before he even debuted basically, and
>once it was clear that he was handling himself professionally
>and drama/crazy stories weren’t gonna follow the guy around,
>I doubt that GMs cared all that much. But the long-lasting
>effect (his anxiety issues) must have affected his
>performance/career prospects. It’s really a shame.

who knows, when it comes down to deciding the last few roster spots decisions are made for a number of reasons. Whenever Teo's name comes up people immediately think of "the dude from ND that got catfished" without thinking about his "cultural gullibility" or how the story "ran its course". Part of the reason Michael Sam was out of the league in year was because teams didn't want to deal with the extra attention associated with a plyer that would probably be a backup. A similar thing happened with Kaepernick.

You look at a guy like Alec Ogletree another LB who was drafted by the Rams a few spots ahead of Teo and as of last season he was still getting NFL jobs despite a significant drop-off of on-field production.

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154. "dude dealt with crippling anxiety..."
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his first 3 years in SD, he said. Imagine not being able to feel your legs...playing a violent game like football...at a position where you have seconds to figure out what's going on and get yourself to the spot.

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158. "Watched this and the And1 doc yesterday"
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I pretty much knew the whole And1 story from things I’ve seen over the years, but it’s nice that they put all of that into one piece. The co-founders don’t seem to fully grasp that they didn’t pay these guys their fair share.

The Manti doc was fantastic. It was nice to see that the angle wasn’t just “what kind of psycho would do something like this?” They were actually interested in getting Naya’s story in a fair way. Really felt for both her and Manti.

  

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161. "funny how things turned out exactly the way I said."
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I didn't know fam was going to transition, but it was all pretty clear.

manti is not gay, he had a relationship that was absolutely perfect for what he wanted -- no demands on his time, no physical interaction that he'd been programmed to avoid, and someone who COMPLETELY understood everything he was going through as a football player.


and he was like six steps too naive to figure out that there's no woman alive who fits those categories


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147. "damn, Warren NAILED it, in post 38"
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151. "My wife watches 90 Day Fiance.. which means I watch it too"
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there is a Samoan dude on there.. he’s like a newborn child at times even though he is a full grown man.

Just naive, extremely sensitive… big as hell.

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168. "RE: My wife watches 90 Day Fiance.. which means I watch it too"
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The dude that barley opens his mouth when he talks? That dude...yeah.

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156. "Sure did. "
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Cultural nuance absolutely matters. I’m glad we’re learning that more every year.

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162. "people refused to believe that he could be that naive "
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bc he's big man football player, but he really was that guy!

and he'd believe anything someone said, as long as they were vouched for by family, which "she" was, so all the brakes were left open.

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169. "I think that's true. But also"
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I do think the way that the story was reported led to a ton of confusion on the publics' part. Like the stories spun Naya as his friend - which wasn't accurate.

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167. "damn, no kidding"
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170. "Wonder what else he's been right about all these years now."
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Hm.

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149. "I've been catfished like 19 times since this story first came out lol"
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dating apps are wild

  

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163. "..."
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"im sorry for those whose lives are so lonely and miserable that they turn to this kind of shit."

"umm, i think u can figure out why"



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166. "thanks for your research!"
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>"im sorry for those whose lives are so lonely and miserable
>that they turn to this kind of shit."

yes 10 years later I still feel sorry for people who partake in catfishing. It sucks for everyone involved.

Won't be replying to any of your toxic bullshit beyond this post so be sure to make your snarky reply really count.

  

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171. "it'd be funny if I've been the one catfishing you for the last ten years"
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that would be one hell of a bit


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165. "the "lennay comes back from the dead" part had to be terrifying"
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dude really had no clue what was happening to him, and he made an attempt to see through it, then BOOM, gets the picture.

that shit would fuck with anybody, even if you weren't literally the most naive dude ever like he was.

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172. "“Naya” is absolutely deranged."
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I mean I will never get being in a “relationship” on the phone with someone you’ve never met in 3 years.

But holy fucking hell the depth of the deception Naya put on is mad. You couldn’t make a movie villain that wild. I didn’t not sense much remorse at all on her part either.

Manti a real ass mf that final word at the end about had me choked up for him.

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173. "I'm not saying this because I've been catfishing 3xkrazy for ten years"
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but you don't have to do so much signaling of how upset you are that someone could pretend to be an internet girlfriend

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174. "What?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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175. "idk man he doing his usual bit I guess "
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176. "lol"
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183. "these are his/her/they confessions?? "
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Narcissism is a helluva drug

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177. "also my thoughts when reading that post"
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I've given up trying to decipher what is wrong with this dude

  

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184. "what's your confusion"
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178. "Do we think the doc let Ronaiah/Naya off the hook?"
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I've been seeing a good bit of that sentiment (admittedly from the usual mouth breathers)

I'd argue that just letting her tell her side of the story was pitch perfect, because no amount of editorializing could make her come off worse than she herself did... just simply telling her side of the story. Vile.

  

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179. "Not “off the hook”"
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But it’s very clear she’s a narcissist who doesn’t care about the hurt she inflicted.

Manti lost millions and took a massive hit to his image but she’s okay with that because it’s what led to her finding herself. Get fucked.

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180. "Nah they couldn’t make her look any worse than she did herself "
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181. "No. Also, i'm FINE with letting her have some redemption..."
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because the whole lesson there, that they hinted at but did not explicitly get into, is that when you don't let people be themselves, shit like this can happen.

almost all of this is because Roniah was trans and couldn't express that in any way ON TOP of being a pillar of a religious family whose religious strictly stands against that.

they needed some sort of pressure release, and unfortunately, Manti was that. that's no excuse, but that's what it was.

also, it's clear that Naya was not ASKING for any sympathy. far as i recall Naya was very aware of her actions and how wrong they were, and was apologetic about it.

i mean, owning your faults/mistakes and apologizing for them is what we should be going for here.

  

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182. "^^^All of this"
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>because the whole lesson there, that they hinted at but did
>not explicitly get into, is that when you don't let people be
>themselves, shit like this can happen.

Exactly. I thought they got this message across without letting Naya off the hook, and while I think she phrased things kinda poorly at times (i.e. she kept saying stuff like “I knew it was wrong, but idk… I did it anyways”), I do believe she was contrite overall.

>also, it's clear that Naya was not ASKING for any sympathy.
>far as i recall Naya was very aware of her actions and how
>wrong they were, and was apologetic about it.
>
>i mean, owning your faults/mistakes and apologizing for them
>is what we should be going for here.
>

I get that the ending of the doc was maybe a little too happy for people, but I’m not sure what she/the documentary makers could do that would make everyone feel great. She’s apologetic, but there’s nothing she can do to make up for it. And the fact of the matter is, this whole thing DID lead to her realizing who she was. They were obviously going to tell that story.

If there was one missing piece to the doc, it would be Manti and Naya sitting down and talking. Not even showing the conversation, just show that it happened. If they tried to get that together and Manti didn’t want to, I get it, but if the documentarians never pitched it, that’s a failure on their part.

  

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185. "nah man you gotta say naya is deranged"
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so that everybody knows you definitely ain't with that shit, and definitely haven't been catfished by a dude

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186. "Not intentionally or by design or anything"
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They let Manti and Manti each tell their individual stories with little, if any, comment. As Naya said, she hadn't spoken to Manti aside from a very vague "I'm sorry" call right before the story officially broke. And it doesn't appear that either of the parties or their immediate families have had much contact since this happened.

So it was a bit infuriating to listen to Naya frame this whole experience as her Hero's Journey without really acknowledging that she hurt people along the way (she made allusions that she'd be catfishing people for a while, and that things got the deepest with Manti). But, as people have said in this thread, Naya was as naive and sheltered as Manti was, and was raised in an environment was she could really be herself. So there wasn't a lot of room for introspection.

But given both of their final statements of the doc, I'll say that Manti came across as much more sympathetic.

Shoot, I was also annoyed with Manti's father, who talked about how he initially blamed Manti for not knowing he was getting catfished and "putting the family" in danger.

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187. "Nah, especially seeing that Manti expressed forgiveness"
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and given he's the one who suffered most, who is anyone else outside of maybe his parents to be upset on his behalf.

>I'd argue that just letting her tell her side of the story was pitch >perfect, because no amount of editorializing could make her come off >worse than she herself did... just simply telling her side of the >story. Vile

agreed. it was empathetic in that it let her tell her side and got into her background some, and that's fine. it's not like the sugarcoated any of the terrible things she did or the damage caused by it. it's still very clear Manti s the victim

  

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