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LA2Philly
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"The Official Lakers Off-Season Post"


  

          

It's clear to anyone watching or looking at box scores that this team is cooked. Worst Laker team I can recall. So off-season priorities:

1) Fire D'Antoni (which hopefully helps convince Dwight to stay)
2) Re-sign the aforementioned Dwight
3) Trade Pau's expiring for some youth and athleticism on the wings (and I think Dwight re-aggravating the shoulder means we will keep Pau for the remainder of this season)
4) Re-sign Earl Clark

Add-on.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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front office really blundered this coaching shit
Jan 23rd 2013
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Huge mistake...and it wasn't the FO. Dr. Buss made an exec decision
Jan 23rd 2013
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damn
Jan 23rd 2013
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Amnesty Kobe before trading Pau.
Jan 23rd 2013
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lol @ Kobe getting amnestied
Jan 24th 2013
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lol
Jan 23rd 2013
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Fire Jim. Hire Jeanie.
Jan 23rd 2013
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That's really where it starts.
Jan 24th 2013
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how was last year's team so much better?
Jan 23rd 2013
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No no wait a minute. Fuck that, y'all gotta suffer through it.
Jan 23rd 2013
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Making a post on OKP ends the season..You didn't know that?
Jan 23rd 2013
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      lol
Jan 24th 2013
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Btw, Kobe gon swing (again) before the end of the season
Jan 23rd 2013
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This quote is extremely hilarious on so many levels
Jan 24th 2013
25
this is a weird ass season... lol
Jan 24th 2013
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In the end, I have faith in Mitch to get Dwight to stay
Jan 24th 2013
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If that can happen obviously we have to keep D12
Jan 24th 2013
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      Thats how the contracts are structured. We are almost all clear in 2014
Jan 24th 2013
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           My belief in Mitch isn't what it once was...
Jan 24th 2013
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                But no one truly saw this kind of debacle coming
Jan 24th 2013
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This nigga D12 soft as baby shit, and Kobe is an ass
Jan 24th 2013
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**sips tea**
Jan 24th 2013
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LOL nm
Jan 24th 2013
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Adelman was the guy
Jan 24th 2013
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Yeh, that's been well known locally since that move happened
Jan 24th 2013
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This post is like comfort food.
Jan 24th 2013
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rjc27
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1. "front office really blundered this coaching shit"
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good thing coaches salaries don't count against the cap! antoni will have to and they gotta pay him for 3 years...

Lakers front office did not do a bad job building this team, on paper anyone would have taken what they started the season with... but the firing of mike brown with antoni as the backup plan and THEN signing him to a 3 year deal!!?!? epic failure

  

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LA2Philly
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3. "Huge mistake...and it wasn't the FO. Dr. Buss made an exec decision "
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Kupchak and Jim wanted to keep Brown longer (I disagree with that) but Dr. Buss was having none of it (agreed) but wanted an 'exciting' style....D'Antoni got the job off a phone interview. Completely waste of a season. Time to cut our losses again.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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CherNic
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2. "damn"
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Cold Truth
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4. "Amnesty Kobe before trading Pau."
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He's got to adjust his playing style a lot more. If we're trading Pau it only makes sense to amnesty Bean at the same time IMO and clear that money together. Plus, it might well make Dwight more likely to resign if he knows it's officially 'his' team.

Problem is, I kinda don't like him as The Man. He needs a Chris Paul type to win titles IMO.

I'm not thrilled with any option on the books though, truth be told, but I do trust Mitch in a big way.

  

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AlBundy
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20. "lol @ Kobe getting amnestied"
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Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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5. "lol"
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Ryan M
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6. "Fire Jim. Hire Jeanie. "
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12. "That's really where it starts."
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7. "how was last year's team so much better?"
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8. "No no wait a minute. Fuck that, y'all gotta suffer through it."
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This is not the staples center- THERE ARE NO EXITS.

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9. "Making a post on OKP ends the season..You didn't know that?"
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11. "lol"
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10. "Btw, Kobe gon swing (again) before the end of the season"
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http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8875019/los-angeles-lakers-hold-team-meeting-air-grievances

MEMPHIS -- In order to move forward and turn around their disappointing season, the Los Angeles Lakers attempted to let go of their past frustrations with a team meeting Wednesday.

Prior to the team's shootaround in preparation for the Lakers' game against the Memphis Grizzlies, coach Mike D'Antoni invited members of the team to air their grievances, according to a team source.

Several players spoke up, including Steve Nash and Kobe Bryant, the 17-year veterans who make up the Lakers' backcourt. Bryant asked Dwight Howard if he was bothered by playing alongside him, according to the Los Angeles Times, which first reported the meeting.

"I hope it is (a positive thing)," D'Antoni told reporters before the game. "That's the purpose of just trying to move forward, and hopefully it is. We'll see. We're in a rut right now, so the time to stand up, draw a line in the sand would be now."

Bryant acknowledged he could be "hard to play with," according to the Times, and challenged Howard to speak up if he had a problem with it.

Howard was "despondent" and did not offer much of a reply to Bryant, according to a team source.

While a coaching change and injuries throughout the roster have contributed to the Lakers' 17-24 record at the season's halfway point, another major factor in their difficulties has been the lack of rhythm between Howard and Bryant.

Following the Lakers' 95-83 loss to the Chicago Bulls on Monday, Howard complained to reporters about getting only five shots, while Bryant was 7 of 22.

Howard apologized for his comments in Chicago after Wednesday's shootaround, calling them "immature."

One example of the rocky relationship between the two Western Conference All-Star starters, according to a league source, was a game this season when Howard harped to a teammate about the disparity between his and Bryant's shots while sitting on the bench. The teammate called Bryant over so Howard could tell it to Bryant's face, but Howard refused to speak up.

"Obviously our problems were the chemistry was not clicking," D'Antoni said. "You try, 'OK, I'll push that guy, I'll pull that guy,' and you hope things overcome that and it didn't. It didn't. Now you get down to brass tactics and open your heart up and let everything be raw and see if we can solve some of the problems or the issues and just go forward."

Lakers forward Antawn Jamison, a 15-year veteran who said he has "seen it all" in his time in the league, said this could be a make-or-break point for L.A.

"Now we're at the wall and we're going to find a way to help each other over that wall, or we're going to let the wall push us back even farther," Jamison said.

D'Antoni said it's an issue of the entire team coming together.

"We've got an All-Star team out there," D'Antoni said. "Have you ever watched an All-Star Game? It's God-awful because everybody gets the ball, they go 1-on-1 and then they play no defense. That's our team. That's us. We're an All-Star team and we haven't learned there's a pecking order. There's the one guy, the two guy, the three guy and the four guy. It might not be the same guy every night, but somebody has got to accept being the fourth guy. If you've been the first guy all your life, that's hard to accept. That's what happens in All-Star (Games) and that's what happened with us. Like I said, with today's meeting, hopefully we've overcome a little bit of that. I hope. We'll see."

Added Jamison: "Let's just have fun, man, and enjoy this journey and just pull for each other and realize that this is a special team. The first half of this season has been an embarrassment. We've been the laughingstock of the NBA. So, let's turn that embarrassment into one of the best stories in sports history and turn things around."

  

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25. "This quote is extremely hilarious on so many levels"
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>"We've got an All-Star team out there," D'Antoni said. "Have
>you ever watched an All-Star Game? It's God-awful because
>everybody gets the ball, they go 1-on-1 and then they play no
>defense. That's our team. That's us. We're an All-Star team
>and we haven't learned there's a pecking order. There's the
>one guy, the two guy, the three guy and the four guy. It might
>not be the same guy every night, but somebody has got to
>accept being the fourth guy. If you've been the first guy all
>your life, that's hard to accept. That's what happens in
>All-Star (Games) and that's what happened with us. Like I
>said, with today's meeting, hopefully we've overcome a little
>bit of that. I hope. We'll see."


OK lets break this down..
>"We've got an All-Star team out there.

Then why can't you beat regular NBA teams? Talent should prevail.

>you ever watched an All-Star Game? It's God-awful because
>everybody gets the ball, they go 1-on-1 and then they play no
>defense. That's our team. That's us.

But that's always been your team...that's always been your philosophy.

>we haven't learned there's a pecking order. There's the
>one guy, the two guy, the three guy and the four guy. It might
>not be the same guy every night, but somebody has got to
>accept being the fourth guy.

THAT'S YOUR JOB COACH!!! Its your job to instill that. THAT'S WHAT YOU GET PAID TO DO!!!
Tell your players who is 1-2-3-or 4!






  

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LegacyNS
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13. "this is a weird ass season... lol"
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I still don't know if Kobe & D12 can co-exist so as much as I want D12 to stay he might not want to come back.

Just gotta see how this plays out..


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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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LA2Philly
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14. "In the end, I have faith in Mitch to get Dwight to stay"
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Whether that means sacking D'Antoni or convincing him that it was just a crazy outlier, Murphy's law season or whatever else, we damn well know that Mitch knows how to play the game and understands who the future of this team is...particularly with the way we'd be setup to lure a max contract Kyrie or Bron in 2014.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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15. "If that can happen obviously we have to keep D12"
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& go after a big time FA in 2014....
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================
Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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16. "Thats how the contracts are structured. We are almost all clear in 2014"
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Pau is off, Kobe is off...that's 50 (!) million off the books right there. No one else on the team other than Nash (player option) is signed past next year and he's at a reasonable 10 million. We are setup to make one more run next season with Dwight + Kobe + Nash (I don't see any way in which Pau isn't dealt as a very valuable 20 million expiring contract) as the core and then it's time to lure a FA in a potential gold mine 2014 free agent market.

We know Mitch don't play...he has the short and long term in his grand scheme.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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19. "My belief in Mitch isn't what it once was..."
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after this debacle.

I can't see Kobe wanting to retire without one more good play-off run. If that means having to be on another team to do it in the 14-15 season, I can only imagine he'll be more than okay doing it with another team.

  

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LA2Philly
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21. "But no one truly saw this kind of debacle coming"
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I mean c'mon. He was ahead of the game on Pau and LO for CP3....and then got us D12 and Nash. We're suffering through a crazy season that has been riddled with problems that no one could have really foreseen...that's doesn't discount the job Mitch has done imo. He has consistently, consistently shown the uncanny ability to come up with solutions for problems....and he will re-tool the roster for next season while also giving us huge cap space in 2014.

I think he's done a helluva job setting us up, short and long term. This season is a wash but he will rectify the issues to the best of his ability, he always has.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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24. "This nigga D12 soft as baby shit, and Kobe is an ass"
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I know I advocated Kobe easing up on dude, but damn, this nigga was asked a question point blank and folded, instead of returning the volley

Kobe definitely doesn't respect him now

Shit's a mess, and it's not going to get solved any time soon

Meanwhile, these hoes can keep partying, they should enjoy it as long as they can

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Say it to my face.

  

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17. "**sips tea**"
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http://rushtravel.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/GOALKEEPER-CELEBRATION.gif

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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18. "LOL nm"
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22. "Adelman was the guy"
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Wojnarowski reports that Rick Adelman was the guy that Mitch wanted as coach instead of Mike Brown but he was overruled by the Buss. Adelman is a terrific coach and would have suited the players that the Lakers have. LA's loss is Minnesota's gain (irony).

  

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23. "Yeh, that's been well known locally since that move happened"
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Mike Brown came in preaching defense....and Jim Buss ate it up instead of going with Adelman, who would have been a tremendous hire considering his clout with veterans and his system.

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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26. "This post is like comfort food."
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And it'll never happen, but Ryan's right. Jim needs to stop making basketball decisions, give that shit to Jeannie.

  

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