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Reggie Jacxzon
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"James Harden is making Sam Presti's job a lot easier."


          

2 for 10 in two straight games.

He's made only 15 shots in the series and given out 14 assists.
and yet, in 2 games he's led his team in free throw attempts. He's getting into the paint but only shooting 41%, so let's go ahead and mention the would-be-clutch missed layup at the end of game 4.

9 turnovers to 4 steals.

Half of his 4 (4!!!) series' 3s came in game 2. It's taken him 11 tries to hit 2 3s.

The worst part is that he's taking the same amount of shots he's been taking all year. I will not take away how well he was doing in the Western conference offs, but it's the biggest stage and his head is the fuzziest.

It's not KD's fault.

It's not Russy, cause despite some hiccups #HEDEEDIT.

It's the Beard.

and If Scottie doesn't do something about it, he's a problem too.

When/If the Sheik of OKC comes back I'll be happy but he needs to work his way back in.

Nick Gyllenhaal is playing well. Hall of Fame Fish is playing well even if he isn't coaching as well as he should. Serge is playing well and his minutes are getting CUT. STOP THE MADNESS.


























at this point I'm just lashing out.

and of course
look at these things:
Recent show - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyNJgTalegs
Recent article - http://www.rapconqueso.com/2012/05/underneath-willie-evans-jr/
New Tough Junkie https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/missing/id594220223

  

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RE: James Harden is making Sam Presti's job a lot easier.
Jun 21st 2012
1
lol
Jun 21st 2012
2
this is silly
Jun 21st 2012
5
RE: James Harden is making Sam Presti's job a lot easier.
Jun 21st 2012
21
make easy buckets.
Jun 21st 2012
23
      RE: make easy buckets.
Jun 21st 2012
41
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/alcapwn27/Forums/1340164165336....
Jun 21st 2012
3
damn
Jun 21st 2012
4
I haven't watched, is Battier guarding him?
Jun 21st 2012
6
Sometimes
Jun 21st 2012
7
I would love to see Harden play the point in a traditional offense
Jun 21st 2012
8
RE: I would love to see Harden play the point in a traditional offense
Jun 21st 2012
9
      say bruh
Jun 21st 2012
39
           RE: say bruh
Jun 21st 2012
40
lol @ Fisher playing well
Jun 21st 2012
10
LOL @ "Hall of Fame Fish"
Jun 21st 2012
11
he got dem rings doe... i'm sayin'
Jun 21st 2012
28
the crazy thing is, he's not even getting D'd up or anything
Jun 21st 2012
12
it also wouldn't hurt to have a fourth guy capable of getting 10 points
Jun 21st 2012
13
This james harden hate is comical
Jun 21st 2012
14
says the man with a Jeremy Lin profile pic lol
Jun 21st 2012
15
i don't get it.
Jun 21st 2012
16
real talk. I aint sexist anywhere else
Jun 21st 2012
24
lol smh
Jun 21st 2012
26
RE: real talk. I aint sexist anywhere else
Jun 21st 2012
31
lol
Jun 21st 2012
32
lmao
Jun 21st 2012
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RE: real talk. I aint sexist anywhere else
Jun 21st 2012
42
Houston we have a problem
Jun 21st 2012
27
lmao
Jun 21st 2012
18
dammit shawn...i was gon make this post after the series ended
Jun 21st 2012
17
Dude has played like ass in the most important series
Jun 21st 2012
19
      exactly
Jun 21st 2012
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RE: James Harden is making Sam Presti's job a lot easier.
Jun 21st 2012
22
xactly
Jun 21st 2012
25
RE: xactly
Jun 21st 2012
30
The rim is responding to him like the hook of a Trina/Trick Daddy hit
Jun 21st 2012
29
people were overhyping him to begin with talking that max contract bs...
Jun 21st 2012
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RE: people were overhyping him to begin with talking that max contract b...
Jun 21st 2012
36
kobe and wade both made him look silly
Jun 21st 2012
44
no.
Jun 21st 2012
43
nigga they in the fucking finals...wtf is this dumb shit?
Jun 21st 2012
35
This dumb shit is about how poorly he's played in said Finals.
Jun 21st 2012
45
He's obviously better than this. But I still say Ibaka will be worth
Jun 21st 2012
37
quietly, Ibaka's been almost as bad as Harden this series
Jun 21st 2012
38
i would offer Gasol for Harden but i know OKC cant afford Pau
Jun 21st 2012
46

all stah
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1. "RE: James Harden is making Sam Presti's job a lot easier."
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Thu Jun-21-12 01:05 AM by all stah

          

Nope. Russy's fault

If a player is in a slump, and lacks confidence and direction with his shot, the PG is supposed to get him going. The pg is supposed to put the slumping player in a position to make easy buckets.

If the Head does not direct the body, then the body cannot perform, therefore, in-animation will set in.

russy should be directing and orchestrating the offense, putting players in an optimal position to get the high percentage shot. He should be motivating his teammates, talking to them, huddling with them. You know, things that real PGs do.

How many times have we seen Magic pull Kareem , Worthy over to talk to them?

How many times have we seen Rondo pull KG over, paul over, ray over to talk to them?

...How many times have we seen it from Wade( combo guard!), williams, paul, fucking rubio?!( nope!...saw him pull love over several times)




Russy aint never pull Harden over ...nope ...Even kerr pulled jordan over once( though, he got stole on later in practice)

  

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Ownzdacourt
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2. "lol"
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nm

Spurs NBA Champs 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007. 20..

  

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Reggie Jacxzon
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5. "this is silly"
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Pulling a guy to the side is not the same thing as being "a true point guard."
If anything it should be KD pulling him to the side. We've seen him yell at Russy and the message was received.

and of course
look at these things:
Recent show - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyNJgTalegs
Recent article - http://www.rapconqueso.com/2012/05/underneath-willie-evans-jr/
New Tough Junkie https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/missing/id594220223

  

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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21. "RE: James Harden is making Sam Presti's job a lot easier."
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Jesus Christ, the agendas...

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

http://coolehmag.com/frontEnd/

  

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23. "make easy buckets. "
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Harden still has to do his part

and actually make the shots

Rondo got eliminated

cry




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all stah
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41. "RE: make easy buckets. "
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how are those 5.9 assists per game working out for you?

yeah, un-huh

  

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3. "http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/alcapwn27/Forums/1340164165336...."
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http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/alcapwn27/Forums/1340164165336.jpg

Spurs NBA Champs 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007. 20..

  

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Reggie Jacxzon
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4. "damn"
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and of course
look at these things:
Recent show - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyNJgTalegs
Recent article - http://www.rapconqueso.com/2012/05/underneath-willie-evans-jr/
New Tough Junkie https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/missing/id594220223

  

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6. "I haven't watched, is Battier guarding him?"
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I mean, they only have 3 scorers and Miami has 3 world class perimeter defenders. Someone had to get taken out.



  

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Reggie Jacxzon
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7. "Sometimes"
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But Battle is also averaging 7 more minutes than Harden so he's bound to carry out guarding other people. The Heat are switching around most of their defensive assignments so Harden, like KD and Russy, is being hit by many different defenders. If anything I'd say I see Battle guarding KD more often than Harden, but I haven't looked up any specific stats to tell you for certain.

and of course
look at these things:
Recent show - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyNJgTalegs
Recent article - http://www.rapconqueso.com/2012/05/underneath-willie-evans-jr/
New Tough Junkie https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/missing/id594220223

  

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DolphinTeef
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8. "I would love to see Harden play the point in a traditional offense"
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like the Lakers.

maybe he's too slow to guard PGs these days but dude's vision/pace is great.

  

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9. "RE: I would love to see Harden play the point in a traditional offense"
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Thu Jun-21-12 03:30 AM by all stah

          

Don't fall for it. Last week niggas were in here blessing him as if he was rakim allah, and saying he deserved all the couscous pussy that the nile has to offer.


It's a diversion, to wax poetic away from russy. Blame the darkest motherfucker on the court, oldest trick in the book when it comes to blaming black folks.

'cism

  

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39. "say bruh"
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who's your weed man?

  

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all stah
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40. "RE: say bruh"
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yeah, clearly I smoke weed and you smoke crack.

clearly that post is for jokes, which is the purpose of posting in sports.

  

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10. "lol @ Fisher playing well"
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liability on defense and has provided minimal offense, I guess the intangible bullshit will have to do

<-textbook blocking fundamentals

  

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11. "LOL @ "Hall of Fame Fish""
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

  

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28. "he got dem rings doe... i'm sayin'"
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It ain't easy... but it sho' is fun

  

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12. "the crazy thing is, he's not even getting D'd up or anything"
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dude is just missing.

miami better hope he doesn't figure it out though because all OKC needs from his is 14-16ppg to make it a series again.

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13. "it also wouldn't hurt to have a fourth guy capable of getting 10 points"
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because the thunder have exactly three guys capable of getting 10 points against a good defense. diversify your bonds.

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14. "This james harden hate is comical"
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dude is 23.

he's having one bad series after balling every other series.
He's definitely more expendable than durant and westbrook but at the end of the day he's gonna be okay no matter what team he's on.


Damn when did sports talk become so reactionary?

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15. "says the man with a Jeremy Lin profile pic lol"
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>
>Damn when did sports talk become so reactionary?
>

woobledeskawooooooohhhhh (c) Daryl Hall

That was so uncomfortable (c) Mike

  

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16. "i don't get it."
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_____________
"So yeah, I sampled your offense you was using it wrong." - Rexlongfellow on the genius of Mike Woodson

  

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24. "real talk. I aint sexist anywhere else"
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but i dont even respond to women about sportstalk.

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26. "lol smh"
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c'mon chernic fits in with most of the rest of lebronon. I'd rather engage her then the dude that run around talking bout #kangdick

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31. "RE: real talk. I aint sexist anywhere else"
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And this makes sense, why?

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

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32. "lol"
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<<<<<<<TALK TO THE HAND, BITCHES!!!

  

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33. "lmao"
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woobledeskawooooooohhhhh (c) Daryl Hall

That was so uncomfortable (c) Mike

  

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42. "RE: real talk. I aint sexist anywhere else"
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yes you do...lol
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27. "Houston we have a problem"
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18. "lmao"
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17. "dammit shawn...i was gon make this post after the series ended"
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19. "Dude has played like ass in the most important series "
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no one is "hating"


Harden is just sucking on the highest possible level

  

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20. "exactly"
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and of course
look at these things:
Recent show - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyNJgTalegs
Recent article - http://www.rapconqueso.com/2012/05/underneath-willie-evans-jr/
New Tough Junkie https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/missing/id594220223

  

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22. "RE: James Harden is making Sam Presti's job a lot easier."
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Most of the shots are not bad shots either. It's like there is a fucking lid on the rim. Sometimes it bees like that, Harden is still an amazing player moving forward.

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

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25. "xactly"
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and him just being "off" is understandable, the problem is, he had like 3 critical TOs when OKC was fighting for momentum. They can afford him missing shots, but they can't afford him turning the ball over.

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30. "RE: xactly"
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Yes, but I feel like the TO's are the result of heretofore unseen hesitancy on Harden's part. And that hesitancy is borne of the fact that everything he tries to do is backfiring. When he drives he loses the ball, when he shoots from the outside it rims out, he suddenly can't buy a finish at the basket...so dude is clearly rattled.

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29. "The rim is responding to him like the hook of a Trina/Trick Daddy hit"
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>Most of the shots are not bad shots either. It's like there
>is a fucking lid on the rim. Sometimes it bees like that,
>Harden is still an amazing player moving forward.

  

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34. "people were overhyping him to begin with talking that max contract bs..."
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he comes off the bench for a reason, he's a streak shooter and a suspect defender, when his jumper isn't falling he's a liability on the floor

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36. "RE: people were overhyping him to begin with talking that max contract b..."
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Totally disagree. He is outstanding going to the basket, finishes very well, and is a good facilitator who also gets to the line fairly often.

As a defender he is average. He can't check Lebron, big surprise. Show me the other people who have lit James Harden up this postseason. His defense is average.


It's totally reasonable to say you don't see someone deserving of a max contract. But after his play against Dallas and San Antonio (and the whole season) it is a bit ridiculous to paint him as a one-dimensional chucker.

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44. "kobe and wade both made him look silly"
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i like how a few defensive switches onto lebron have become him "guarding lebron" like that was his defensive assignment over the course of this series

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43. "no."
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he's getting a max contact, deal with it.

  

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35. "nigga they in the fucking finals...wtf is this dumb shit?"
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45. "This dumb shit is about how poorly he's played in said Finals."
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follow up?

and of course
look at these things:
Recent show - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyNJgTalegs
Recent article - http://www.rapconqueso.com/2012/05/underneath-willie-evans-jr/
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37. "He's obviously better than this. But I still say Ibaka will be worth"
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closer to the money he's given than Harden will.

  

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38. "quietly, Ibaka's been almost as bad as Harden this series"
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46. "i would offer Gasol for Harden but i know OKC cant afford Pau"
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