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will_5198
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"MLB Talk 6.11: trend or mirage"


  

          

it's been 13 starts, and Tim Lincecum is rocking a 6.00 ERA, 1.58 WHIP and a 4.9 BB/9. his fastball velocity is sitting at 90.2, after averaging 93.2 in his 2008-09 Cy Young seasons. he's still only 27. is this just an awful start, or is The Freak going to be a memory from here on out?

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a month ago, Chris Sale was opted to the bullpen because of elbow tenderness. he spent just an inning there, and since returning as a starter he leads the AL in ERA (2.05), WHIP (0.92) and opposing BA (.188). will his arm fall off on his next pitch, or will he somehow keep his left elbow and vie for a Cy Young?

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after a promising start, Yu Darvish has unraveled the last few weeks. he's walked four or more batters in half his starts, and sports a 1.51 WHIP to show for it. is this a blip in mastery of his 13 (supposed) pitch types and adjustment to five days rest, or did Nolan Ryan waste a lot of money on another Japanese nibbler?

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R.A. Dickey has a 2.44 ERA, and is currently on a 24.2 scoreless inning streak. his growing "mastery" of the knuckleball, including a variant that rises through the zone (akin to fast-pitch softball!) has elevated his strikeout rate to an impressive 8.7 K/9. and for all the volatility of the go-to pitch, Dickey has allowed three or less runs in 32 of his last 36 starts. are we seeing the start of a late-blooming career that will surpass Tim Wakefield?

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Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
Spit Ball???
Jun 11th 2012
1
Mccutchen mvp right now
Jun 11th 2012
2
Royals figured out to just pitch around him this weekend
Jun 12th 2012
5
I heard a spectacular stat today about this...
Jun 12th 2012
6
      Pirates are last in Runs, RBI and 2nd last in Avg
Jun 12th 2012
9
If the Pirates make the playoffs the writers will want to give it to him
Jun 12th 2012
8
      we won't and it won't even be a discussion
Jun 12th 2012
11
Mike Trout doesn't look like a rookie.
Jun 12th 2012
3
yeah, he's getting much less shine than Harper
Jun 12th 2012
7
      True.
Jun 12th 2012
10
           He steals bases like it's high school
Jun 18th 2012
37
Pujols....
Jun 12th 2012
4
Thats a clown question bro (c) Bryce Harper
Jun 13th 2012
12
Kansas City Royals on Negro League Appreciation Day
Jun 13th 2012
13
Isnt that Ichiro??
Jun 13th 2012
14
wait, WTF??? Is the dude behind him making fun of him???
Jun 14th 2012
16
How come no talk of Felix sucking this year?
Jun 13th 2012
15
Timmy thinks he's fine
Jun 14th 2012
17
Will come get yu boy
Jun 14th 2012
18
clearly you're being facetious
Jun 15th 2012
19
6.14, the date that the Pads got their first series sweep of the season
Jun 15th 2012
20
they scrimmage Chico's Bail Bonds?
Jun 16th 2012
27
If the season ended today, the Mets would be in the playoffs. WTF
Jun 15th 2012
21
Big Donkey is back
Jun 15th 2012
22
23
Jun 15th 2012
25
      L
Jun 16th 2012
26
Jays just lost 3 starters this week to injury
Jun 15th 2012
23
Darvish was pretty good tonight
Jun 15th 2012
24
Astros make dreams come true
Jun 16th 2012
28
      ya san diego helps also lol
Jun 21st 2012
50
Snakes are finally back at .500
Jun 16th 2012
29
Dickey is top 3 all time, maybe the GOAT
Jun 18th 2012
30
Go Vols
Jun 18th 2012
31
Dude had a rough childhood, this is a great ride for him
Jun 18th 2012
32
back to back one hitters, 25Ks
Jun 18th 2012
33
Trevor Plouffe in June: .389/.459/.963
Jun 18th 2012
34
Sergio Romo best middle reliever?
Jun 18th 2012
35
maybe
Jun 18th 2012
36
White Sox coming back down to earth
Jun 18th 2012
38
lincecum sucks so bad this year that the giants bandwagon and local
Jun 18th 2012
39
Trout goes 4-4, BB, 4 runs scored last night.
Jun 20th 2012
40
How com Starsburg isnt talked about minutely??
Jun 21st 2012
41
Frankie Two Times makes me want to kill puppies
Jun 21st 2012
42
Old Guy Fight!!! Re: PineTarGate
Jun 21st 2012
43
Joe Maddon is getting kind of tedious
Jun 21st 2012
44
Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post had a theory
Jun 21st 2012
46
      I think that's called "Guillening"
Jun 21st 2012
49
Not as fun as Frank 'The Intimidator" Robinson
Jun 21st 2012
45
i heard about this the other day...so what's the consensus on pine
Jun 21st 2012
47
      I remember Kenny Rogers whole hand bein brown in the WS
Jun 21st 2012
48
Joey Bats is now up to 23 HR
Jun 23rd 2012
51
and his BABIP is still below .200 because a third of his hits
Jun 23rd 2012
52
Encarnacion tied with Granderson now too
Jun 23rd 2012
53
can talk about Rasmus killing it in the 2 spot?!?!
Jun 23rd 2012
54
if we can talk about his subpar performance since he was traded
Jun 23rd 2012
55
      Man, I love Colby...
Jun 23rd 2012
56
           he's playing and hitting great right now
Jun 24th 2012
57

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1. "Spit Ball???"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCxtMb_ZXiI

RA Dickie vs. Chris Sale at the ASG

Braun

Angels outfield is BALLIN....

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2. "Mccutchen mvp right now"
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numbers look crooked like king kong shook it - jdilla

  

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5. "Royals figured out to just pitch around him this weekend"
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We have a historically bad offense even with him, you take him out of the game and we are a minor league level offense. Won't be long until he never sees a pitch to hit the rest of the season.
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6. "I heard a spectacular stat today about this..."
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Pittsburgh #4 hitters are batting a combined .203 and #5 hitters .216. WHY ARE NINJAS STILL PITCHING TO DREW???

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9. "Pirates are last in Runs, RBI and 2nd last in Avg"
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This is with Cutch which both speaks to how ridiculous he is to even be putting up good numbers, and how bad the rest of the team is.

Also shows how lights out the pitching has been to be sitting 5 games over .500


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8. "If the Pirates make the playoffs the writers will want to give it to him"
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11. "we won't and it won't even be a discussion"
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But yes if the pirates somehow make the playoffs Cutch has to be MVP and we probably have to have a Cy young candidate or two
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3. "Mike Trout doesn't look like a rookie."
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He's been absolutely amazing. I love the way he puts pressure on the defense by getting in scoring position.

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7. "yeah, he's getting much less shine than Harper"
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despite putting up better numbers. but it's probably better for him that way.

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10. "True."
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Trout's power numbers/projections might never become as sexy as Harper's, which is probably part of the reason why he'll continue to get less shine than Harper.

For that same reason, he fits the Angels' need perfectly, as a leadoff guy with extra-base mentality and a base-stealer. I just love the way he impacts the game in different ways. It makes him one of the more exciting players in all of baseball.

It's crazy to think that both kids still have so much room to grow with the type of numbers they're putting up already.

  

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37. "He steals bases like it's high school"
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4. "Pujols...."
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.354, 6HR, 7 doubles and 18rbi in the last 18 games......TREND!!!

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12. "Thats a clown question bro (c) Bryce Harper"
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I think I'm a fan

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13. "Kansas City Royals on Negro League Appreciation Day"
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14. "Isnt that Ichiro??"
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16. "wait, WTF??? Is the dude behind him making fun of him???"
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I'm so confused by this pic, lol.

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15. "How come no talk of Felix sucking this year?"
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This dude is my worst pitcher on my fantasy team

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17. "Timmy thinks he's fine"
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18. "Will come get yu boy"
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19. "clearly you're being facetious"
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20. "6.14, the date that the Pads got their first series sweep of the season "
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27. "they scrimmage Chico's Bail Bonds?"
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21. "If the season ended today, the Mets would be in the playoffs. WTF"
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13 blown saves already, double WTF.

I don't even care how the rest of the season plays out, I'm proud of this team.

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22. "Big Donkey is back"
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22nd home run last night; tying Hamilton for the MLB lead

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25. "23"
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26. "L"
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23. "Jays just lost 3 starters this week to injury"
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Brandon Morrow is on the 15 day DL, Kyle Drabek has to go see Dr. James Andrews and Drew Hutchison left with an elbow injury after 2/3 of an inning

I guess the playoffs will coincide with a 20-year reunion next year

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24. "Darvish was pretty good tonight"
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28. "Astros make dreams come true"
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and a lot of pitchers look better on seven days rest

NO BIG DEAL

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50. "ya san diego helps also lol"
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but i dont think his troubles have been opponents just control and confidence.

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29. "Snakes are finally back at .500"
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didn't realize San Fran was ballin this much.

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30. "Dickey is top 3 all time, maybe the GOAT"
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How is this happening?!?

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31. "Go Vols"
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32. "Dude had a rough childhood, this is a great ride for him"
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Hope he starts the ASG and strikes out the side

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33. "back to back one hitters, 25Ks"
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What is it now, six straight starts without an earned run?

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34. "Trevor Plouffe in June: .389/.459/.963"
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I'd be worried about a jinx, but I'm still not even sure he's any good - let alone this good.

Still, better not to throw him a fastball for awhile longer. I don't think he's swung at one without hitting it over the wall in about a week.

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35. "Sergio Romo best middle reliever?"
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he finally allowed a run the other night...but has been lights out for the better part of two years now

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36. "maybe"
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as far as best in the league, I think his low number of innings works against him

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38. "White Sox coming back down to earth"
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as expected...I knew our bullpen was trash.

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39. "lincecum sucks so bad this year that the giants bandwagon and local"
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media are back on zito's nuts for the first time since he inked that contract while doing downward dog in GG park.

go dodgers.

  

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40. "Trout goes 4-4, BB, 4 runs scored last night."
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Now qualifies among the league leaders in several hitting categories: BA, OBP. He's scored 40 runs in 47 games. His 19 SB leads the AL, top 5 in the Majors.

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41. "How com Starsburg isnt talked about minutely?? "
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DUDE is SICK

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42. "Frankie Two Times makes me want to kill puppies"
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the Mets need to stay away from all closers that have ANY form of "Frank" in their name

*Jews you*

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Ceej
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43. "Old Guy Fight!!! Re: PineTarGate"
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Davey got some ether

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44. "Joe Maddon is getting kind of tedious"
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After awhile, wearing glasses with thick rims and telling me that you read books isn't quite enough.

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Call It Anything
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46. "Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post had a theory"
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That in an effort to take as much of the the load off of Peralta as possible, Maddon set out to make this whole thing about him. Possibly far-fetched, but it did make me reconsider this whole tiff.

  

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Walleye
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49. "I think that's called "Guillening""
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I think what makes it difficult to agree with is that this is pretty far down the cheating scale. This story only attaches itself to Peralta by staying in the news for longer than one morning.

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45. "Not as fun as Frank 'The Intimidator" Robinson"
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http://angels.topbuzz.com/angels-pics/d/735-1/Mike+Scioscia+and+Frank+Robinson+have+a+confrontation.jpg

Barry Svrluga, who covered the Nationals for the Washington Post in 2005, retells the story and draws parallels between Tuesday and my favorite Nationals game of all-time:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/nationals-flashback-parallels-between-2005-and-2012-pine-tar-incidents/2012/06/20/gJQAtDpUqV_blog.html

No long-standing Nationals fan could watch Tuesday night’s game against the Tampa Bay Rays – one in which Washington Manager Davey Johnson asked the umpires to check the glove of Tampa reliever Joel Peralta, where they discovered pine tar – and not think back to the night of June 14, 2005. That night in Anaheim, Calif., then-Nationals manager Frank Robinson did exactly as Johnson did Tuesday: As soon as Angels reliever Brendan Donnelly entered the game, Robinson asked that his glove be checked. And as soon as umpire Tim Tschida – amazingly, the same crew chief who worked Tuesday night’s game – discovered pine tar on the glove, he tossed Donnelly, leading to a dugouts-clearing fracas that defined the early part of the Nationals’ debut season in Washington.

“This one was a lot calmer,” Tshida said Tuesday. “The managers both kept their cool. The one in Anaheim, I had to separate Scioscia and Frank Robinson.”

So much happened that night, and so much of it mirrors the events of Tuesday – with an incredible wrinkle, which we’ll get to later, thrown in.

In 2005, the connection between Washington and Anaheim was Nationals outfielder Jose Guillen, a character who could accurately and generously be described as volatile. The Nationals acquired Guillen in an offseason trade with Anaheim. Scioscia had suspended Guillen for the latter part of the 2004 season, even with the Angels in a pennant race, because Guillen had thrown the last of a string of tantrums when Scioscia lifted him for a pinch runner.

Prior to his return to Anaheim, Guillen downplayed his animosity with the Angels. But before the series, he told Robinson about Donnelly’s habit of concealing pine tar on his glove to make his pitches break more dramatically. In the seventh inning of the second game of that series, the Angels led the first-place Nationals 3-1, and Scioscia brought on Donnelly to relieve starter Ervin Santana. Donnelly was to face pinch hitter Carlos Baerga. (Man, those were the days.)

So here came Robinson. As they did Tuesday night, the umpires inspected the glove. As they did Tuesday night, they ejected the reliever, in this case, Donnelly. The difference: When Scioscia heard the decision, he confronted Robinson. Mayhem ensued.

“He walked over to me and angrily said to me, ‘Every one of your pitchers that come into the game, I’m going to have them undressed,’” Robinson said the next day. “And that’s what I took exception to, because I thought and I felt like he was off base.”

Robinson, who was 69 at the time – precisely Johnson’s age now – went toe-to-toe with Scioscia. Guillen had to be restrained by teammates. And just as Rays Manager Joe Maddon countered by having Tschida check the glove and hat of Nationals reliever Ryan Mattheus, Scioscia responded by asking the same of then-Nationals reliever Gary Majewski.

All of this was exciting enough on the field, particularly because Guillen responded by hitting a laser-like home run off Angels reliever Scot Shields to tie the game, and the Nationals won 6-3 after Junior Spivey (oh, man, I’m getting misty-eyed again) drove in a run with an infield single. The victory gave the Nationals a two-game lead in the N.L. East.

But remember what happened afterward, and continued the next day (when, if you recall, Ryan Drese made his debut for Washington with eight shutout innings, and Chad Cordero loaded the bases in the ninth but worked out of it anyway to seal a 1-0 win)?

Here’s Robinson, on whether he would get past the incident with Scioscia:

“Right now, I don’t’ feel like getting past it,” he said in the dugout before the series finale. “… As far as forgiveness and stuff, I don’t feel like it right now. I’m not that type of person. You step on my toe, it hurts for a while; and I’m not going to forgive you for stepping on my toe until maybe it stops hurting. Then I might think about it.”

Robinson, a Hall of Famer as a player (and a teammate of Johnson’s in Baltimore), took particular exception to what he thought was Scioscia’s attempt to intimidate him.

“Let me tell you this: If people let me intimidate them, then I’ll intimidate them,” Robinson said. “But I wasn’t going to let him intimidate me. I am the intimidator.”

Well, then. Robinson and Scioscia were each suspended for one game.

That leaves two more matters, one Nationals fans will surely remember, another they likely won’t. First, Guillen. He was fairly calm in postgame interviews the night of the incident (when he and Robinson both concocted a story that the coaching staff had picked up on Donnelly’s habit from watching video (and I won’t even get into how laughable that explanation is, given how little video that coaching staff watched)). But the next night, when asked about Scioscia, Guillen couldn’t hold back.

“I don’t got truly no respect for him anymore because I’m still hurt from what happened last year,” Guillen said. “I don’t want to make all these comments, but Mike Scioscia, to me, is like a piece of garbage. I don’t really care. I don’t care if I get in trouble. He can go to hell. We’ve got to move on. I don’t got no respect for him.”

(I still have the tape of this interview. I will always have the tape of this interview.)

“I want to beat this team so bad,” Guillen continued. “I can never get over about what happened last year. It’s something I’m never going to forget. Any time I play that team, Mike Scioscia’s managing, it’s always going to be personal to me.”

It actually became personal between Guillen and Donnelly, and the two exchanged words when they moved on – when Donnelly was pitching for Boston and Guillen hitting for Seattle, for instance. But the last little wrinkle to this whole story, tying Tuesday night to seven years ago?

The final reliever for the Angels that night, going two-thirds of an inning without allowing a hit but walking a batter: Joel Peralta.

  

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47. "i heard about this the other day...so what's the consensus on pine"
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tar?

everyone does it? and whats the consensus on calling it out? its okay as long as you find out on your own?

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48. "I remember Kenny Rogers whole hand bein brown in the WS"
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LaRussa only cried cuz they lost.

He knew damn well his whole bullpen uses it.

Just let it be, unless you want to start somethin

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51. "Joey Bats is now up to 23 HR"
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so much for Hamilton running away with anything.....Dunn and Bautista may both be ahead of him

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52. "and his BABIP is still below .200 because a third of his hits"
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leave the park. his average should climb once a few more liners start dropping in.

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53. "Encarnacion tied with Granderson now too"
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54. "can talk about Rasmus killing it in the 2 spot?!?!"
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holy shit this kid is hitting well in the 2nd slot behind Lawrie (btw who is becoming a great leadoff hitter)

  

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55. "if we can talk about his subpar performance since he was traded"
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until recently

no such qualms on defense though.... it's been very nice having him patrol CF

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56. "Man, I love Colby..."
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I've been on his team ever since the Cards brought him up. He showed what kind of capabilities he had in 2010, but he regressed as a hitter. Everything was pull, pull, pull. Dude is a real quiet type cat who obviously had a fragile ego. Tony picked and picked at him and that was all compounded even more by his pops being kind of a jackass. It became like a tug of war between the Cards hitting coaches and his dad fucking with his swing. Defense of course, was never an issue. The kid is so fluid and graceful out there. He covers ground like a deer and it looks effortless. I hope he can get it all together, because he's ridiculously talented and it would be ashamed to see that go to waste.

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57. "he's playing and hitting great right now"
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