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TheRealBillyOcean
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"So this Doc Rivers situation....."


          

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/344836211124342784

Of course it should be taken with a grain of Broussard, but still. He hasn't said one way or another if he's coming back yet.

Seems like he does this every year now on some Brett Favre type steez.

Now if he doesn't want to come back, cool. But why doesn't he just say so while other coaches are available, before the Celtics end up with Johnny Davis or Scott Skiles as their coach.

Thoughts?

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Every other coach will have same issues Doc's having
Jun 12th 2013
1
Danny might come downstairs
Jun 12th 2013
2
They throw money at Lionel Hollins and he takes a jetpack...
Jun 12th 2013
4
poor Mike...going from Lionel to George effing Karl
Jun 13th 2013
27
      Oh George is gonna try to reinvent the wheel...
Jun 13th 2013
32
yep and unless something major happens I see Doc leaving
Jun 13th 2013
14
I already like the Clippers and would just like them more...
Jun 13th 2013
20
I agree but this confuses me...
Jun 13th 2013
19
It's time to get off that train and move on IMO
Jun 12th 2013
3
fuck it...if he goes, he goes.
Jun 12th 2013
5
somebody needs to tell Jim fukkin Buss that
Jun 12th 2013
6
^^^^ is spot on.
Jun 13th 2013
9
Shiiiiit, they need to gone and tell Pringles to roll out
Jun 12th 2013
7
what?
Jun 13th 2013
8
Doc is definitely a guy I'd immediately fire D'Antoni to hire
Jun 13th 2013
10
Yup. If he came on the market, I'd fire Mike in a second.
Jun 13th 2013
12
      basically...
Jun 13th 2013
18
           will the lakers want to pay
Jun 13th 2013
21
                They're off the hook for much of Mike Brown's contract
Jun 13th 2013
23
                brown's hire changes the game on that. i still think pringles stays tho
Jun 13th 2013
29
                     Unfortunately, you're right.
Jun 13th 2013
31
Maybe they can make that trade Doc to the Clips trade now
Jun 13th 2013
11
RE: Maybe they can make that trade Doc to the Clips trade now
Jun 13th 2013
37
IMO they need to be proactive. Pierce is considering retirement anyways
Jun 13th 2013
13
That's where I'm at. The sooner the better.
Jun 13th 2013
15
lol @ this turning into a mikedumbtoni hate post.
Jun 13th 2013
16
There's no bad occasion for that
Jun 13th 2013
17
What? No it's not. Laker fans never talk about that.
Jun 13th 2013
22
      lol
Jun 13th 2013
24
Johnny Davis lol. Let's just play the wall on this one
Jun 13th 2013
25
man Doc Rivers would have been perfect for the Pistons...
Jun 13th 2013
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i dont think that's the kind of gig he'd take to be honest
Jun 13th 2013
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      Yep. He wants a contender.
Jun 13th 2013
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           yeah his short list probably looks something like...:
Jun 13th 2013
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                why on earth would he be interested in the lakers or knicks job?
Jun 13th 2013
34
                talent, prestige, owners with deep pockets? why wouldn't he? Especially....
Jun 13th 2013
35
                     lol, owners pockets are no deeper than most for openers
Jun 13th 2013
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                          If Dwight walks we're major players in 2014 free agency
Jun 13th 2013
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                If the Heat lose this series, things could get real interesting
Jun 13th 2013
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                     I think Spo is doing a very good job, SA has more guys/options
Jun 13th 2013
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                          Spo is the safest guy there...
Jun 13th 2013
43
I knew it would be any minute now. I love Doc...
Jun 13th 2013
40
Rondo, Green, Sully, and Bradley can get them to the playoffs
Jun 13th 2013
41
agreed and if KG sticks around, even better
Jun 13th 2013
42
LOL
Jun 14th 2013
48
      ^^^what I was thinking
Jun 14th 2013
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      nah, a young, uninjured team that can actually run with Rondo
Jun 14th 2013
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      Yep, focus on defense and running and they would thrive.
Jun 14th 2013
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      Nah...to all of that
Jun 14th 2013
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           RE: Nah...to all of that
Jun 14th 2013
53
                Those 4 would be the core building blocks based on...
Jun 14th 2013
54
                     I Think JET is Done
Jun 14th 2013
55
                          See, I wouldn't want Redick and Courtney.
Jun 14th 2013
59
Rondo & Green. Now there's a foundation!
Jun 14th 2013
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      Of course that's not as good as J'Rue and Thaddeus.
Jun 14th 2013
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           get em
Jun 14th 2013
62
           sadly for the C's, it prolly isn't, let alone the rest being cap space
Jun 17th 2013
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           that nigga stay gettin sonned lol
Jun 17th 2013
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Clippers wanna talk to dat Doc...
Jun 14th 2013
45
Reports stating, Danny Ainge open to Vinny Del Negro
Jun 14th 2013
46
No the OTHER Vinny Del Negro that play ball in the park down on ...
Jun 14th 2013
58
*sees the early 00's back on the horizon, sighs*
Jun 14th 2013
60
So bad, especially if the Clips get Doc and KG
Jun 14th 2013
63
This guy's got Jeff Green quoting Kelly Rowland
Jun 14th 2013
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RE: This guy's got Jeff Green quoting Kelly Rowland
Jun 14th 2013
61
      lol
Jun 15th 2013
64
If they don't get Bledsoe, the Celtics lose in this.
Jun 17th 2013
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I thought you want Bledsoe to go somewhere he could start?
Jun 17th 2013
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I do, but in terms of getting value the Celtics are fucked.
Jun 17th 2013
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      I'm not that worried about not getting Bledsoe
Jun 17th 2013
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I'm Kinda Blown That Bledsoe's Holding Everything Up
Jun 17th 2013
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I think the play is to shoot Bledsoe somewhere.
Jun 17th 2013
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      or Rondo
Jun 17th 2013
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           That too
Jun 17th 2013
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           nah, Rondo still prolly has more value, he's on a managable deal
Jun 17th 2013
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                Very few are
Jun 17th 2013
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                Ainge may just go for the full reboot, with Rondo's mood swings and...
Jun 17th 2013
76
                     Real talk: Rondo could probably make DJ look really good.
Jun 17th 2013
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                          You mean like Chris Paul did?
Jun 17th 2013
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                          Rondo & CP3 are not cut from the same cloth
Jun 18th 2013
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                               ^^^REAL TALK
Jun 18th 2013
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                          Kinda hard for anyone to make him better when he doesn't play
Jun 17th 2013
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                               It will be funny if the Celtics and Clippers basically swap coaches
Jun 17th 2013
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That's more than enough
Jun 17th 2013
70
and I'm good with it
Jun 17th 2013
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      How are dumping a salary and taking back Jordan?
Jun 17th 2013
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           dumping 62 year old Terry or 40 Lee is in the talks right now
Jun 17th 2013
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                Dream scenario is the Celtics flip Jordan some way....
Jun 18th 2013
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                     lol
Jun 18th 2013
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                     Jordan's contract isn't as bad as people play it out to be
Jun 18th 2013
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                          he's a decent player who earns a market-price salary
Jun 18th 2013
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                          they could get Jordan's production out of Fab Melo
Jun 18th 2013
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                               LOL. no they couldn't. cmon.
Jun 18th 2013
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                                    There are dudes in the D-league that can give you what DJ gives you
Jun 18th 2013
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                                         lolz. you cysing shit but yeah, i'm not a dj fan either.
Jun 18th 2013
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                                              you'd rather have mcgee or jordan than garnett inside of 2 yrs max
Jun 18th 2013
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                          11M per. trade kicker bumps it to 13. that's pretty fucking awful, dude.
Jun 18th 2013
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                               for a dude that averaged 3.7ppg in the playoffs
Jun 18th 2013
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Let me fix that for you
Jun 18th 2013
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Los Angeles Cliptics
Jun 17th 2013
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Clippers refusing to meet demand of 2 draft picks
Jun 18th 2013
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The Celtics don't have to do anything really.
Jun 18th 2013
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basically, lol...
Jun 18th 2013
94
KG at 37 is still much better than DeAndre
Jun 18th 2013
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Both teams are idiots for this.
Jun 18th 2013
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      1st round picks are too valuable to give up 2 on a 37yr old
Jun 18th 2013
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           They were in a position to make a power move.
Jun 18th 2013
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                or maybe they learned from the redskins, maple leafs, lakers, cowboys
Jun 18th 2013
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                     DeAndre has potential but...
Jun 18th 2013
129
Dead dead. Not a good look for Clippers
Jun 18th 2013
99
Oh, it's a good look for the C's?
Jun 18th 2013
100
It's worst for the Clippers, especially if CP3 leaves.
Jun 18th 2013
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if by "big boy" you meant "bailout" or "unprecedented," then sure
Jun 18th 2013
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You gotta give to get.
Jun 18th 2013
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all that matters is what paul wants, obviously he aint GAF
Jun 18th 2013
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      This is where I'm at with this whole thing.
Jun 18th 2013
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      Yeah, they can stack up those 1st round picks & land Marshon Brooks..
Jun 18th 2013
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           good players are drafted in the 20s all the time
Jun 18th 2013
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                Good players like.........
Jun 18th 2013
135
Exactly. Big boys dont get taken like that
Jun 18th 2013
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With or without Doc, CP3 isn't leaving LA.
Jun 18th 2013
109
KG and Pierce almost done anyway
Jun 18th 2013
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He should feel great about them not giving up assets for nothing
Jun 18th 2013
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He should feel great about them not giving up assets for nothing
Jun 18th 2013
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I don't think the Clippes kill talks if Paul was pushing for it.
Jun 18th 2013
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Whenever the opposing teams fans call you dumb for not taking an offer
Jun 18th 2013
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Celtics shoulda been happy to get more than a bag of dildos
Jun 18th 2013
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Why hasn't this trade gone through?
Jun 18th 2013
119
The Clipps didn't want to give up Bledsoe. Then....
Jun 18th 2013
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      Another first round pick is pointless IMHO.
Jun 18th 2013
121
Arnovitz is always on point (swipe)
Jun 18th 2013
128
Good read.
Jun 18th 2013
130
Is KG only playing 26 - 28 mpg an issue...
Jun 18th 2013
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      It is when KG is 13 years older
Jun 18th 2013
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           Dude....KG from age 14 to 57 >>>>> than DJ now.
Jun 18th 2013
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                yup. do Celtics scouts lurk here or what?
Jun 19th 2013
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                     DeAndre vs. Tyson Chandler at age 24
Jun 19th 2013
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                          Nobody Said DJ Wasn't Valuable
Jun 20th 2013
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                          Thats what I'm saying, both teams win.
Jun 20th 2013
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                          look at those rebounds and free throw %
Jun 20th 2013
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Talks are back on.
Jun 19th 2013
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CP3 must have weighed in.
Jun 19th 2013
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      Yep
Jun 19th 2013
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      Doc met with Ainge today. I'm sure both sides were pressured.
Jun 19th 2013
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           Yet the Clippers called the Celtics
Jun 19th 2013
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           Doesn't mean anything
Jun 19th 2013
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                Word?
Jun 20th 2013
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                     who's arguing against it?
Jun 20th 2013
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           Woj reports that it was CP3
Jun 20th 2013
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Hurdles to getting the deal done (swipe)
Jun 19th 2013
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If it's true that Doc is telling the Clippers to not give up Bledsoe the...
Jun 20th 2013
148
.
Jun 20th 2013
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The league isn't believing both deals aren't connected
Jun 20th 2013
150
duh
Jun 20th 2013
151
Stern really shouldve stepped in when the negotiations got out
Jun 20th 2013
152
      Basketball reasons
Jun 20th 2013
154
Wow. League really is denying it.
Jun 20th 2013
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      FINALLY, what the fuck? Like I said, completely unprecendented
Jun 20th 2013
158
Celtics had a Ainge-Doc press conference scheduled for noon, but...
Jun 21st 2013
159
Heisler reports Clips offering protected 2015 pick for Doc
Jun 21st 2013
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That probably wouldn't get it done.
Jun 21st 2013
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      1st round pick or lose Doc for nothing. Those are Boston's choices.
Jun 21st 2013
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           ***shrugs*** the Clipps still don't get Doc though
Jun 21st 2013
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           ok
Jun 21st 2013
164
           He makes $7 mil a year. They aren't "losing" him.
Jun 21st 2013
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                Exactly. The ball is in the Clipps court.
Jun 21st 2013
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                If They're Doing All This to Make CP3 Happy
Jun 21st 2013
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                Simmons broke down what he could make if he wasn't coaching
Jun 21st 2013
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                     of course the Cs started it, Ainge is swap meet shopping
Jun 21st 2013
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                          Everything you said is on point.
Jun 21st 2013
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Woj says Doc is done with Clippers
Jun 21st 2013
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Conflicting reports all over the place. LA Times says its not dead.
Jun 21st 2013
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i dont get their pursuit of the jordan-garnett swap
Jun 23rd 2013
176
Or it might mean CP3 is leaving, lol
Jun 23rd 2013
175
SI: Doc Rivers tried to fight Rajon Rondo
Jun 22nd 2013
173
Lol....yes, that's believable.
Jun 22nd 2013
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Explains why he handed the offense to him.
Jun 24th 2013
192
Multiple sources report that the Clips offered a 1st rd pick
Jun 23rd 2013
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DONE DEAL! Doc for unprotected 2015 pick
Jun 23rd 2013
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The league won't let any other deal between these teams go through.
Jun 23rd 2013
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if they approve the doc one, doesn't matter what happens next.
Jun 23rd 2013
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      Yes it does.
Jun 23rd 2013
186
Now that that's over, ill take Hollins to replace Doc in Boston
Jun 23rd 2013
181
^^^^^ I would approve this...
Jun 23rd 2013
184
They're trying to tank for Wiggins so Vinny should be hired.
Jun 23rd 2013
187
Ainge would definitely hire Vinny & that scares me a bit
Jun 23rd 2013
188
Lol
Jun 23rd 2013
191
yep....that will work
Jun 24th 2013
194
That works
Jun 23rd 2013
183
Like Haj said above, league won't allow any Bos/LAC deals this season
Jun 23rd 2013
189
now he is coaching the best team in LA
Jun 23rd 2013
182
Clippers stay making dumb decisions
Jun 23rd 2013
185
You mean the debacle where they ended up with CP3 anyway?
Jun 24th 2013
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RE: You mean the debacle where they ended up with CP3 anyway?
Jun 24th 2013
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      they have CP3
Jun 24th 2013
196
           and got rid of Baron Davis. Double win.
Jun 24th 2013
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           CP3 is a free agent
Jun 25th 2013
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                your point is moot until CP3 signs elsewhere so for now
Jun 25th 2013
199
I think they are safe here, playboy
Jun 25th 2013
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      2015 draft is supposed to be another bad one too
Jun 25th 2013
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      Says who?
Jun 25th 2013
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      eh, too far out to really evaluate, at least for me personally
Jun 25th 2013
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      maybe
Jun 26th 2013
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So now the West has two of the top 3 coaches today
Jun 23rd 2013
190
At the end of the day, both teams made out well in a fair deal
Jun 25th 2013
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I really hope Doc gets a chance to coach DJ and Bled.
Jun 25th 2013
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      you know i am a DJ fan, don't get the hate
Jun 25th 2013
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      Who has Doc developed into a star?
Jun 25th 2013
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           Rondo?
Jun 25th 2013
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                damn, he put that shit right on a tee for you
Jun 25th 2013
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damn, so Doc is head coach AND "Senior VP of Basketball Operations"?
Jun 25th 2013
209
all my years watching shitty pre-CP3 blowouts have paid off
Jun 25th 2013
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SoulHonky
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1. "Every other coach will have same issues Doc's having"
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Nobody is going to sign with the Celtics until they find out if KG is coming back, what they are doing with Pierce, if they're going to try to sign-and-trade for someone or if they are going to blow it up.

Doc doesn't want to come back to a full rebuild. I'm not sure he's all that fired up about a Rondo/Jeff Green Era either.

But I can't imagine anybody is going to want to sign a contract with the Celtics until they figure out what the team is going to look like next year.

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2. "Danny might come downstairs"
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4. "They throw money at Lionel Hollins and he takes a jetpack..."
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to Danny's office to sign the dotted line.

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27. "poor Mike...going from Lionel to George effing Karl"
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32. "Oh George is gonna try to reinvent the wheel..."
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and do some dumb shit like have have Austin Daye initiate the offense and have Mike spot up.

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14. "yep and unless something major happens I see Doc leaving"
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and going to the Clippers. Because I can't see us getting a big name that would attract Doc to staying and make other players want to come to Boston a la '07.

  

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20. "I already like the Clippers and would just like them more..."
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if Doc were to bounce to LA.

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19. "I agree but this confuses me..."
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>I'm not sure
>he's all that fired up about a Rondo/Jeff Green Era either.

...because why would he sign a 5 year contract or whatever it was, if he didn't want to be here for the Rondo/Jeff Green era, or at least the beginning stages of it? If he was just trying to see the Big 2 era thru why didn't he just sign for, like, 2 years? Nahmean?

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3. "It's time to get off that train and move on IMO"
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6. "somebody needs to tell Jim fukkin Buss that"
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there are way fukkin better options out there than mike damn dantoni..

  

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9. "^^^^ is spot on."
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>there are way fukkin better options out there than mike damn
>dantoni..
>
>

Fire Antoni now and bring in a better coach. This is another example of that privilege.

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7. "Shiiiiit, they need to gone and tell Pringles to roll out"
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Still don't know why they hired dude

  

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8. "what?"
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10. "Doc is definitely a guy I'd immediately fire D'Antoni to hire"
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12. "Yup. If he came on the market, I'd fire Mike in a second. "
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Or fire Mike and hire Shaw.

Or fire Mike and hire Bernie.

Or just fire Mike.

Eitehr way, I'd just fire Mike.

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18. "basically..."
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>Or fire Mike and hire Shaw.
>
>Or fire Mike and hire Bernie.
>
>Or just fire Mike.
>
>Eitehr way, I'd just fire Mike.

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21. "will the lakers want to pay"
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two fired coaches in order to bring in a 3rd guy?

I'm all for firing Antoni tho.

  

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Cold Truth
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23. "They're off the hook for much of Mike Brown's contract"
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So it wouldn't set them that back much at all.

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“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

  

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29. "brown's hire changes the game on that. i still think pringles stays tho"
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31. "Unfortunately, you're right. "
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If for nothing more than to save face, though I doubt that's the reason.

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“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

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11. "Maybe they can make that trade Doc to the Clips trade now"
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I forget what it was but it involved Doc, PP, and KG to the Clippers for Blake and some others.

Go after a Van Gundy, Shaw or maybe Karl.

  

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37. "RE: Maybe they can make that trade Doc to the Clips trade now"
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>I forget what it was but it involved Doc, PP, and KG to the
>Clippers for Blake and some others.

LOL

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13. "IMO they need to be proactive. Pierce is considering retirement anyways"
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Just trade him, let KG walk, and rebuild around Rondo. Let Doc walk, pick up Hollins, and see what can be had in FA.

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15. "That's where I'm at. The sooner the better. "
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No need prolonging it.

Doc's my dude, but if you don't want to take a step back to take possibly two forward, peace.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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16. "lol @ this turning into a mikedumbtoni hate post."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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17. "There's no bad occasion for that"
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-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

  

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22. "What? No it's not. Laker fans never talk about that."
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24. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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25. "Johnny Davis lol. Let's just play the wall on this one"
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Obviously Boston is at an impasse. Doc is waiting to see what rabbits emerge from Danny Ainge's hat and if it's worth hanging around. I don't see another job he'd leap at right this second, but if the Clippers got him that would be very exciting.

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26. "man Doc Rivers would have been perfect for the Pistons..."
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we should have waited a little longer

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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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28. "i dont think that's the kind of gig he'd take to be honest"
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not saying they dont have promise, but i do think he'd want a team with a clearer trajectory toward contention.

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30. "Yep. He wants a contender."
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33. "yeah his short list probably looks something like...:"
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Lakers
Clippers
Heat(if they choke Riles might get ansty with Bron able to opt out next summer)
Knicks
Hawks could have an outside shot if they could land Dwight and/or CP3

The only rebuilding type job I could maybe see him taking is Orlando because he lives there.

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34. "why on earth would he be interested in the lakers or knicks job?"
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lakers might make themselves appealing to him, we'll see. knicks have no shot

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35. "talent, prestige, owners with deep pockets? why wouldn't he? Especially...."
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if Dwight re-signs with LA.

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38. "lol, owners pockets are no deeper than most for openers"
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if they lose dwight, the "talent" part is in severe question. prestige, OK, fine, but that has a downside,too (ask mr potatohead and pringles).

lakers need to get some shit resolved before i think a big name coach would look at them. they also dont even have a coaching vacancy, so there's that.

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44. "If Dwight walks we're major players in 2014 free agency"
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________________________________________
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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36. "If the Heat lose this series, things could get real interesting"
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39. "I think Spo is doing a very good job, SA has more guys/options"
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I don't think the series is over by any stretch but at this point Miami can only make adjustments that lead to different problems. They could play a perimeter shooting heavy lineup to spread the floor and take advantage of James as a distributor while the paint is packed. But then they get worse defensively and even worse on the boards where they are already in trouble. That is not a plea cop though, I still think this is going to Game 7, where anything can happen.

San Antonio can plug and play a lot more. Where they might have sort of limited options, up front, it doesn't matter because Miami is even thinner.

Spoelstra I thought had a pretty good game plan heading into the series and made excellent adjustments in Game 2. Plus look at what he did all season. I would definitely consider it unfair to shitcan him under almost any circumstances.

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43. "Spo is the safest guy there..."
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only person that might be safer is Lebron...

keeping egos in check aint easy...ask Mike Brown...

  

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40. "I knew it would be any minute now. I love Doc..."
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but I'm ok with him moving on. Fuck it. Blow it all up and start fresh with Rondo and Green.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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41. "Rondo, Green, Sully, and Bradley can get them to the playoffs"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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42. "agreed and if KG sticks around, even better"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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48. "LOL"
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>Rondo, Green, Sully, and Bradley can get them to the playoffs
There's no way that core gets Boston to the playoffs, even in the East
Philly's got a better shot of making the playoffs than that core. They have to add shooters to those 4 to have a remote chance

Without KG or Pierce, Philly and Washington jump ahead of Boston. Maybe even Milwaukee too depending on their off-season

  

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49. "^^^what I was thinking"
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50. "nah, a young, uninjured team that can actually run with Rondo"
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will probably keep them in the playoffs. still a first round loss, but those 9-15 teams in the East are pretty bad.

  

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52. "Yep, focus on defense and running and they would thrive."
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And they could be solid 1st round fodder and gain some experience.

It's a must they improve on the boards and Sully's health is imperative for that to happen.

Plus Jeff Green playing his natural SF spot.

Courtney running again.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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51. "Nah...to all of that"
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Terry and Courtney would be enough.

Pierce and KG go, and they could add somebody else.

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53. "RE: Nah...to all of that"
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>Terry and Courtney would be enough.
Terry and Courtney? They are as hot and cold as it comes...and who knows if Terry still gonna be there. They would be terrible

>Pierce and KG go, and they could add somebody else.
I agree with this...but those 4 wouldn't cut it. They add someone else and they got a decent shot. If they walk and Boston makes moves, now we're talking.

If I were them, I would see if Indy wants to shop Granger. I think he'd compliment that core perfectly. Or if KG and Pierce walk, sign Josh Smith...him and Rondo would be great running the floor

They'd still need a shooter though (Monta Ellis maybe)

  

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54. "Those 4 would be the core building blocks based on..."
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what they have now.

I'd say no to Granger.

But I'd love Josh and Monta.

I've wanted Josh for a few years. Him being besties with Rondo would only mean good things for the both of them. And he'd work well with Green.

When Courtney is engaged, he can play.

And I don't think JET wil have 2 bad years in a row.

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55. "I Think JET is Done"
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>When Courtney is engaged, he can play.
That's the thing...how is Courtney NOT engaged with Rivers as his coach? The coach is only gonna get worse assuming Doc leaves

>And I don't think JET wil have 2 bad years in a row.
Nah, I think he's done...he looked as bad as Manu does this post-season, minus spurts against NY

Getting a shooting guard is essential for Boston. Unless Bradley worked on his offense like Shumpert did, they'll need someone to open things up for Rondo to create havoc. Sully's a banger down low, Green's a good slasher but a streaky shooter. Josh Smith DEFINITELY helps on both ends of the floor, but you need someone to open things up (like Monta Ellis)...or even a JJ Redick

  

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59. "See, I wouldn't want Redick and Courtney."
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I think they'd be kinda redundant with Courtney being better defensively and Redick offensively.

I always like Bradley with Rondo. They have great chemistry. Bradley is supposedly working on his ballhandling, so we see how that'll go.

And you're right, there's a good possibility Jet might be done.

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56. "Rondo & Green. Now there's a foundation!"
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>but I'm ok with him moving on. Fuck it. Blow it all up and
>start fresh with Rondo and Green.

  

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57. "Of course that's not as good as J'Rue and Thaddeus."
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But we can all dream now can't we?

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62. "get em"
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81. "sadly for the C's, it prolly isn't, let alone the rest being cap space"
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or maybe Bynum's sometimey ass.

  

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86. "that nigga stay gettin sonned lol "
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__________________________
Duke, Knicks, Yankess, Giants, UGA, Rangers

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"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

  

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45. "Clippers wanna talk to dat Doc..."
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can't front...I'm gonna kinda feel a way if he leaves Boston and goes straight the L.A. He signed a 5 year extension two seasons ago. He had to know he wouldn't have KG and PP for all 5.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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46. "Reports stating, Danny Ainge open to Vinny Del Negro"
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yep....THAT Vinny Del Negro

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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58. "No the OTHER Vinny Del Negro that play ball in the park down on ..."
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60. "*sees the early 00's back on the horizon, sighs*"
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63. "So bad, especially if the Clips get Doc and KG"
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Vinny HATES playing DJ and Bledsoe, which is what they'd probably get. I don't wish that upon DJ and Bled, they're so much bette than Vinny made them look.

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47. "This guy's got Jeff Green quoting Kelly Rowland"
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Jeff Green
â€@unclejeffgreen
I don't think I can take another broken promise why do things the hard way when u can just be honest

https://twitter.com/unclejeffgreen/status/345540226019627008

  

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61. "RE: This guy's got Jeff Green quoting Kelly Rowland"
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>Jeff Green
>â€@unclejeffgreen
>I don't think I can take another broken promise why do things
>the hard way when u can just be honest
>
>https://twitter.com/unclejeffgreen/status/345540226019627008

http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/gif/8a6268766495d7f3400b9cf72a7836525abbba47_r.gif

  

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64. "lol"
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65. "If they don't get Bledsoe, the Celtics lose in this."
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Not that Bledsoe is that great, but they'll give up KG and Doc and get DeAndre and some picks?

Fuck that.

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66. "I thought you want Bledsoe to go somewhere he could start?"
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67. "I do, but in terms of getting value the Celtics are fucked."
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Celtics could go and trade Bled. Still a free agent at the end of next year.

Worst case, I watch Bled and Rajon for a year. I'm all about the consolidation.

I could also focus all my dislike for CP3 and Blake on the Clipps.

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82. "I'm not that worried about not getting Bledsoe"
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When you look at the angle that the run of Pierce and KG is pretty much done. The retirement bell is ringing. So I don't expect to get much for KG. It would be nice to get Bledsoe in the deal, but I'm not pressed. I'm more concerned on the Celtics being able to dump a salary like Terry's in the deal. If we get Jordan, a pick, and get to let Terry's or Lee's salary go in the deal then I'm happy. I just hope the deal doesn't fall through because of Bledsoe. It's rebuild time. We just have to accept it. We knew this would come rather fast when we gathered our old big 3.

  

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68. "I'm Kinda Blown That Bledsoe's Holding Everything Up"
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Because the backcourt isn't really the issue. Rondo's gonna play at least 37-42 minutes a game, and Avery's gonna be with him in the backcourt. Bledsoe's solid, but he's not a consistent shooter, plus there's no way he's gonna see much time with Rondo there

I don't know why Ainge wants him so bad, unless he's gonna parlait Bledsoe into something else (what, I don't know).

I'd settle for DeAndre and some picks and sign Josh Smith outright. That's a pretty beastly starting 5 to run the court with (Jordan, Smith, Green, Bradley, Rondo)...and you'd have the picks to play with

  

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69. "I think the play is to shoot Bledsoe somewhere. "
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And he has more value than DeAndre.

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72. "or Rondo"
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73. "That too"
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74. "nah, Rondo still prolly has more value, he's on a managable deal"
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and he's a proven top-shelf starter at his posiiton.

Bledsoe has been coveted & discussed so long he's become a bit overrated.

I doubt he'll ever be at Rondo's level even with a better jumper.

  

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75. "Very few are"
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>I doubt he'll ever be at Rondo's level even with a better
>jumper.

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76. "Ainge may just go for the full reboot, with Rondo's mood swings and..."
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attitude issues he may be a handful without Doc, KG and possibly Pierce to reign him in, he may not be the guy you want leading a young rebuilding team.

Can you imagine how bad he's going to cuss DJ out the first time he fumbles a pass out of bounds?

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77. "Real talk: Rondo could probably make DJ look really good. "
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78. "You mean like Chris Paul did?"
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87. "Rondo & CP3 are not cut from the same cloth"
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90. "^^^REAL TALK"
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79. "Kinda hard for anyone to make him better when he doesn't play"
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Good luck with making him better if they hire Vinny.

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80. "It will be funny if the Celtics and Clippers basically swap coaches"
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70. "That's more than enough"
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The Celtics have no leverage to be asking for more than that.

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83. "and I'm good with it"
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If we only get Jordan, a pick, and get to dump a salary I'm good.

  

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84. "How are dumping a salary and taking back Jordan?"
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85. "dumping 62 year old Terry or 40 Lee is in the talks right now"
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If we could get rid of one of those contracts and take on young Jordan, I wouldn't be upset. Jordan would probably be the piece of another summer trade.

  

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88. "Dream scenario is the Celtics flip Jordan some way...."
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And end up with Al Jeff & Josh Smith.

Is that feasible?

I doubt it,

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89. "lol"
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91. "Jordan's contract isn't as bad as people play it out to be"
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Its about right for what centers are getting out there.
It only has 2 years left on it. It'll be a huge trade asset in his final year as an expiring deal.
As long as they don't hire Vinny, he'll get to play and you'll get some pretty nice lobs from Rondo to DJ.

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108. "he's a decent player who earns a market-price salary"
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people are dumping him like some junk contract, he is a perfectly viable player and the Cs would be THRILLED to get him and picks for guys that they are in a pretty good position to lose anyway.

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112. "they could get Jordan's production out of Fab Melo"
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113. "LOL. no they couldn't. cmon."
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118. "There are dudes in the D-league that can give you what DJ gives you"
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122. "lolz. you cysing shit but yeah, i'm not a dj fan either."
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dude is hella overrated. he ain't shit but a slightly less addlebrained javale imo.

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123. "you'd rather have mcgee or jordan than garnett inside of 2 yrs max"
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if not right today

lmao @ fab melo. this is the same guy that brought us the hibbert paycheck post. clearly his opinion on bigs weighs a ton.

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111. "11M per. trade kicker bumps it to 13. that's pretty fucking awful, dude."
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125. "for a dude that averaged 3.7ppg in the playoffs"
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95. "Let me fix that for you"
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They give up an old guy with one leg and a coach that wants to leave anyway. They get a legit starting center plus some potential assets.

Any type of value that they can get in this situation is a good deal. They cannot turn back the hands of time here.

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71. "Los Angeles Cliptics"
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92. "Clippers refusing to meet demand of 2 draft picks"
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https://twitter.com/BA_Turner/status/347020446031572992

"The Clippers have called off the deal with the Celtics. Clippers executive said Celtics asking for too much, the Times told today."

the Celtics are really playing hardball for a team trying to unload an unhappy coach and a 37 year old player.

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93. "The Celtics don't have to do anything really."
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Doc can sit his ass home. Then they'll hire a cheaper coach.

KG can retire. Come off the books.

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94. "basically, lol..."
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>the Celtics are really playing hardball for a team trying to
>unload an unhappy coach and a 37 year old player.

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96. "KG at 37 is still much better than DeAndre"
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Since Ainge is trying to reload and not blow it up, I'm more than happy to keep KG and let you guys deal with trying to teach DeAndre more awareness. (We already have our hands full trying to get Jeff Green to know where he's supposed to be on defense.)

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97. "Both teams are idiots for this."
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The Clips won't need that second pick to be honest... and that's a hell of a pitch to get Paul to stay.

The Celtics are already getting a solid deal without it.

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98. "1st round picks are too valuable to give up 2 on a 37yr old"
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Giving up two 1st round picks really handicaps the Clippers ability to make additional moves to fill out the rest of the roster.
They'd probably have to pair one up with Bledsoe if they plan to move him later on.

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102. "They were in a position to make a power move. "
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Yes, KG + Doc would have made that much of a difference. They had a chance to make a bold statement and didn't.

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107. "or maybe they learned from the redskins, maple leafs, lakers, cowboys"
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that sometimes a big name is just a name and you can't set foot in the same river twice. they bring in garnett, what does it bring them? a vocal guy with diminishing health. big deal. they would have had to move a contract to make the money work. obviously bledsoe and jordan were the names being thrown around. i would not trade jordan for garnett even up, sorry, he's a young true center and garnett is legitimately old as dirt.

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129. "DeAndre has potential but..."
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...he's not that good. There's a reason he was benched most fourth quarters. And most importantly, CP3 doesn't like him and wants to play with KG.

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99. "Dead dead. Not a good look for Clippers"
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Not sure how CP3 is going to feel about the Clips not wanting to spend money and two late first round picks (which can basically be bought for 2-3 million) for KG and Doc.

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100. "Oh, it's a good look for the C's?"
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101. "It's worst for the Clippers, especially if CP3 leaves. "
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It's a big boy move that Clipps should make if they want to make a run.

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105. "if by "big boy" you meant "bailout" or "unprecedented," then sure"
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maybe the heat had to do something to get riley, i don't recall too clearly. but overall trading assets for a coach and trading young players (potentially two starters) for a guy with *maybe* one year left in the tank seems like a desperate dude deal to me, not a big boy move.

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110. "You gotta give to get. "
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If you're the Clippers, and have been known as losers and cheap. And on top of that have been criticized for you coaching. All the while trying to retain your best player. Then you make the trade if you're serious.

You get the 2nd best coach in the league. A veteran who's an upgrade at Center over a young center who doesn't even finish games for you.

And you also give up a couple of picks, that'll probably be in the middle or end of the 1st round.

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124. "all that matters is what paul wants, obviously he aint GAF"
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plus no arrangement that was on the table honestly benefitted the clips. we've seen how important it is to have first rounders when that's really the only way you can add talent once you're up in luxury tax land, like all good teams are.

why would they undercut themselves on picks AND bail boston out by giving them a young player or two of value for a really, really advanced age player? you mean to tell me doc rivers is so much better than hollins, mcmillan, shaw and a host of other potential coaches that he is worth mortgaging your opportunity to improve at a critical time? that he's worth trading one or two starting players off a 50-win team for a guy who maybe plays well for a year and maybe turns into an asset contract after?

it doesn't make any sense. if i am the clippers and i can add garnett for the MLE, no question, do it. if i can sign doc rivers on the open market, same thing. but making a desperate move? pass. you're trying to fight the "loser culture" but immersing yourself deeper in it with a move like this.

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126. "This is where I'm at with this whole thing."
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The Clippers aren't in a desperate situation to make the deal, certainly not to make sure Chris Paul signs. They're still in good position cap-wise and trade chips to improve the roster without getting gaffled. There are still good coaches available.

I mean, this shit ain't over until the Clippers hire a coach, which should come before the week is over to start preparing for the draft.

  

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127. "Yeah, they can stack up those 1st round picks & land Marshon Brooks.."
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type players.

That'll help them make a run.

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133. "good players are drafted in the 20s all the time"
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where would the spurs be without loading up on shrewd picks? once you're over the cap, it's just about the only way to add any type of talent.

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135. "Good players like........."
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117. "Exactly. Big boys dont get taken like that"
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The Lakers dont make that move. Shit, they probably hang up on you once you start talking.
The Celtics wouldn't even make that move if the tables were turned.

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109. "With or without Doc, CP3 isn't leaving LA."
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Lets get that out of the way now.

The Clippers have never been in this position before but they're doing just fine with the HC search. They'll have a HC before the week is over and he'll be an upgrade over Vinny, no matter what.

They have a valuable trade chip in Bledsoe and he'll only get better next season.

It's worth noting that Sterling is showing his willingness to pay for a top tier coach. That's never happened before.


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106. "KG and Pierce almost done anyway"
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Celtics aren't really losing.

  

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103. "He should feel great about them not giving up assets for nothing"
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Why should they pay extra and give assets for Rivers? Is he Bill Parcells now? There are good coaches on the market for just the money. Garnett is dead, if it were to cost them Jordan or Bledsoe, I wouldn't bother. He is a guy playing at 50% but thinking at 100%, he'll want control but won't control the action.

I would never have even entertained this if I were the Clippers.

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104. "He should feel great about them not giving up assets for nothing"
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Why should they pay extra and give assets for Rivers? Is he Bill Parcells now? There are good coaches on the market for just the money. Garnett is dead, if it were to cost them Jordan or Bledsoe, I wouldn't bother. He is a guy playing at 50% but thinking at 100%, he'll want control but won't control the action.

I would never have even entertained this if I were the Clippers.

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114. "I don't think the Clippes kill talks if Paul was pushing for it. "
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It's a stupid deal and the Celtics are trying to screw the Clips when they have zero leverage. There is more than one way to keep Paul.
I think it'll still get done eventually. The Celtics have no choice but to get it done.

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115. "Whenever the opposing teams fans call you dumb for not taking an offer"
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You did the right thing.

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116. "Celtics shoulda been happy to get more than a bag of dildos"
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119. "Why hasn't this trade gone through?"
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DeAndre Jordan for KG is a steal. The draft picks will help the team rebuild. What are the Celts thinking?

Of course this almost kills the DHo deal but oh well.

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120. "The Clipps didn't want to give up Bledsoe. Then...."
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they didn't want to take Terry or Lee. Then they didn't want to throw in another 1st round pick.

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121. "Another first round pick is pointless IMHO."
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The Clips will consistently make the first and second round of the playoffs do that 1st round pick is really a second. I hope it goes through just for Rondo's attitude next season. I'm looking forward to the Rondo Del Negro storyline. I got my DVR set.

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128. "Arnovitz is always on point (swipe)"
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http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/59849/how-the-clippers-could-walk-away

How could the Los Angeles Clippers possibly walk away from a negotiation that would’ve yielded them Kevin Garnett and Doc Rivers for a relatively unproven young center, a couple of first-round draft picks and the relatively small burden of taking on one or two mid-level contracts?

That’s the question gnawing at some Clipper fans and many Clipper-skeptics on Tuesday, but however ineffectual the organization appears on the surface for folding up their tent, the Clippers made a sound decision.

Two key points:

What’s the hurry?
The Celtics’ situation is in flux and they’ve signaled to the world that they’re ready to pursue the wise course of rebuilding. If they buy out Paul Pierce’s contract on or before June 30, where does that leave Garnett and Rivers? Neither is wild about the idea of being part of the reconstruction process without their comrade, and both would prefer they join forces with a team driving for a title, a team like the Los Angeles Clippers.

In other words, if the Clippers want to acquire Kevin Garnett for DeAndre Jordan, they can do so after July 1. The only complication there is the report that Garnett isn’t interested in playing for any coach other than Rivers, a primary reason this whole drama started.

That’s why if I’m the Clippers, I hold off on hiring a coach until after the Pierce situation is resolved. Apart from the Clippers, the only remaining coaching vacancies are Memphis, Philadelphia and Denver. There’s virtually no overlap between the Clippers’ short list and that of 76ers president of basketball operations and general manager Sam Hinkie. Memphis will likely hire current assistant Dave Joerger. At worst, the Clippers lose one of their top three choices (most likely Lionel Hollins or Brian Shaw) to Denver while they wait. In exchange, they maintain the possibility that Rivers could join them after July 1. Boston will have no more impetus to pay Rivers $7 million to coach a bubble team than they do now. Ditto for Garnett’s $18 million guaranteed, assuming KG would return to a Pierce-less Celtics team.

There’s some worry that the Clippers’ inability to strike a deal with Boston might prompt Chris Paul to look elsewhere, but the concern has been overblown. If the Celtics are truly moving into rebuilding mode, time is on the Clippers’ side. If the Celtics decide to fire up the wagon for another run, then so be it.

Was the deal worth it?
Few veterans in the league bring Garnett’s gravitas, pedigree and presence and it’s easy to be charmed by the prospect of Garnett’s taking Blake Griffin under his wing and teaching him the dark arts of defending the pick-and-roll and becoming a championship power forward.

But Garnett is 37 and isn’t good for more than 26-28 minutes per game going forward. As transformative as he is as a minister of culture, Garnett’s past performance isn’t a reliable indicator of what kind of production he’d give the Clippers next season -- and the season after if the team decided to pick up his $12 million option for 2014-15.

So far as the leadership, Garnett is regarded as one of the league’s best teammates and mentors, but the Clippers went down that path last off-season when they brought back Chauncey Billups, signed Grant Hill and loaded up on good-guy vets to add to the collection they already had. Veteran leadership wasn’t the problem when the Clippers lost four straight to Memphis in the first round.

If anything, the Clippers need to get younger and establish a sustainable core around Paul and Griffin. Truth be told, Jordan probably isn’t the best frontcourt counterpart to Griffin since both are most dangerous in the basket area. And although Garnett would offer the mid-range stretch that would best complement Griffin and still plays steady pick-and-roll defense, is 2,000 minutes of Garnett the best the Clippers can do for a talent like Jordan who has many admirers around the league?

We don’t know the answer to this question, but a team like the Clippers that desperately needs a couple of wings who can defend and shoot from distance has an obligation to listen to offers -- and they’re out there for Jordan, both in the form of talent and picks.

Rivers is one of the five best coaches in the game, and clearly has the respect of NBA players. But there’s a reason teams don’t trade assets for coaches. Doc Rivers can’t guard Russell Westbrook, Tony Parker, Ty Lawson, Mike Conley, James Harden and Steph Curry. A few front office execs who were asked about the idea of handing over a pair of first round picks for the privilege of paying a coach $7 million per season found the proposition absurd. While there was almost unanimous respect for Rivers’ acumen and respect, the transaction was seen more as a salary dump than anything else.

The notion that a pair of first round draft picks is a paltry sum to pay for Garnett and Rivers is short-sighted. With the new collective bargaining agreement in place, first-round picks have never been more valuable. They are the mother’s milk of the NBA trade market. With the exception of a few superstar max contacts at well below market value, rookie-scale contracts represent the best values in the game. All across the league, there are young executives who know how to turn post-lottery picks into Chandler Parsons, Serge Ibaka and Eric Bledsoe, among others.

Teams value these picks and will offer a team like the Clippers quality, on-court talent for them. A first-round pick is the kind of asset that could get a team to swallow the final year of Caron Butler’s contract, and could accompany Eric Bledsoe to get a top-line starter in exchange.

The Celtics also wanted the Clippers to take on additional payroll in the form of Jason Terry and/or Courtney Lee (this in addition to the $1.5 million that would’ve been added to the Clippers salary number in a Jordan-for-Garnett swap). With only Griffin, Jordan, Butler, Crawford and Bledsoe locked in for next season and Paul due a maximum salary, the Clippers need to preserve all their available exceptions, but adding Terry and/or Lee would’ve brought the Clippers precarious close to a place where they’d lose one or more of those slots, which are going to be vital in filling out their depleted roster.

It’s entirely possible the Clippers blew it big-time by turning down an opportunity to sign a Hall-of-Famer in the twilight of his career and one of the most respected coaches in the game. Acquiring Garnett and Rivers would’ve made Paul ecstatic and endeared the team to the local media that have been pounding them in recent weeks.

But in forfeiting one option, the Clippers open themselves up to many others, including several that might actually address the team’s needs beyond 2014. In the meantime, Garnett and Rivers are still in Boston awaiting word on the direction of their team. If and when the Celtics decide to break up their current core, Garnett and/or Rivers will be looking for life rafts -- and the Clippers still have one.

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130. "Good read."
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131. "Is KG only playing 26 - 28 mpg an issue..."
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...when you're giving up a guy who only played 24mpg?

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132. "It is when KG is 13 years older"
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Beggars can't be choosers. An athletic 24yr old center is an asset and the Celtics know that. DJ isn't as bad as Vinny made him look; 24yr olds don't get better on the bench

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134. "Dude....KG from age 14 to 57 >>>>> than DJ now."
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140. "yup. do Celtics scouts lurk here or what?"
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i cant figure out why these dudes are defending DJ.

He's ass.

  

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143. "DeAndre vs. Tyson Chandler at age 24"
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http://bkref.com/tiny/78IHG

Don't act like there is no value in a 24 year old athletic C.
You're fooling yourself.
DJ is a valuable asset that still has a huge upside.
Vinny slowed his development but he definitely has the tools to be an impact player in the league with a different coach.

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147. "Nobody Said DJ Wasn't Valuable"
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But to say getting KG when your team isn't in win-now mode at the expense of DJ isn't worth it is a little off

Even with KG's limited minutes he balled in the playoffs. He's still got a mid-range jumper and can anchor a defense. He can also help Blake Griffin with toughness. Guarantee Z-Bo and Gasol don't do what they did to the Clips with KG there.

DJ at 24 compared to TC at 24 is a little strange. Can DJ be as good as Chandler? Most certainly. But he won't open up the floor for Griffin and others to operate. And DJ is way more of a liability late in games, moreso than TC or KG.

Plus you get Doc for at least 3 years. That, and probably a wing in Pierce can make you at the very least a contender for the WCF. Younger teams might get you, but that experience and ability is invaluable

  

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155. "Thats what I'm saying, both teams win."
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156. "look at those rebounds and free throw % "
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136. "Talks are back on. "
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137. "CP3 must have weighed in."
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Clips wouldn't budge, the deal died, but now they're the ones calling the Celtics.

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138. "Yep"
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139. "Doc met with Ainge today. I'm sure both sides were pressured. "
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142. "Yet the Clippers called the Celtics"
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144. "Doesn't mean anything"
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its like arguing with a woman, even when she's wrong the man has to call first.

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146. "Word? "
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/after-chris-paul-s-nudge--clippers-seek-ownership-approval-for-k-g--rivers-trade-with-celtics---054032081.html

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153. "who's arguing against it?"
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Just saying that both sides were pressured. The Clips just took the initiative and called.

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145. "Woj reports that it was CP3"
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Paul communicated to the Clippers that hiring Rivers and trading for Garnett was essential to him re-signing in July. Paul's pushing for the deal forced the Clippers to reengage with the Celtics on Wednesday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/after-chris-paul-s-nudge--clippers-seek-ownership-approval-for-k-g--rivers-trade-with-celtics---054032081.html

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141. "Hurdles to getting the deal done (swipe)"
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9404760/trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-boston-celtics-back-sources-say-doc-rivers-danny-ainge-meeting

"Sources say the Clippers and Celtics, to push the trade through, will have to convince the league office that the deals were not contingent upon each other. According to NBA rules, side agreements or contingencies are prohibited in any trade or free-agent signing. Rules also prohibit coaches from being traded; teams can convey cash or draft picks as compensation to get a coach under contract released from those obligations."

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148. "If it's true that Doc is telling the Clippers to not give up Bledsoe the..."
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that's some bitch shit.
the deal as it is would already be a questionable money dump (assuming they buy out peirce as expected)
not getting bledsoe would make it even more suspect
Rivers is on some have his cake and eat it too shit wit this one

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149. "."
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150. "The league isn't believing both deals aren't connected"
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https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/347753616699969536

Source tells ESPN that Celts & Clips have today begun discussing new trade scenarios to try to satisfy league's misgivings on these deals - Stein

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151. "duh"
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152. "Stern really shouldve stepped in when the negotiations got out"
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They just made this a bad situation for no reason

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154. "Basketball reasons"
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Yeah, Stern injecting himself now is kind of ridiculous. He should have said this at the start because a) it makes sense to say it then and b) I'd think he'd want to put a kibosh on this talk at least until after the Finals are done.

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157. "Wow. League really is denying it."
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-berger/22491346/nba-wont-allow-rivers-clippers-swap

Remember that one about Doc Rivers getting traded to the Clippers in a deal involving Kevin Garnett? Never mind.

The Celtics and Clippers were informed days ago that such an arrangement is not permitted under league trade rules, even if the deals were separated into two distinct transactions, a league source told CBSSports.com on Thursday.

In a radio tour in the hours before Game 7 of the NBA Finals on Thursday, commissioner David Stern appeared on several programs and put this saga out of its misery. His strongest comments came on ESPN Radio in New York, where Stern said, "The teams are aware that the collective bargaining agreement doesn't authorize trades involving coaches' contracts."

The only incentives other than player contracts that are permitted in NBA trades, Stern said, are draft picks and cash.

"The teams know that," Stern said. "It has been confirmed to them. ... It can't be gotten around by breaking it up into two transactions."

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158. "FINALLY, what the fuck? Like I said, completely unprecendented"
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and, now we know for sure, not legal.

The league saves the Clippers again lol.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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159. "Celtics had a Ainge-Doc press conference scheduled for noon, but..."
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It has now been postponed til Monday. Nobody knows exactly what it was about

This whole thing is a mess. Now it's looking like if it happens it will only be for Doc. The owners are not allowing any other trade to go through.

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160. "Heisler reports Clips offering protected 2015 pick for Doc"
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https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/status/348121412495613953

"Just got this on #Celtics-#Clippers: Clips offering 2015 No. 1 pick, lottery-protected…. Let haggling begin: Two hours' worth, at least." - @MarkHeisler

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161. "That probably wouldn't get it done. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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haj20
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162. "1st round pick or lose Doc for nothing. Those are Boston's choices. "
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163. "***shrugs*** the Clipps still don't get Doc though"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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164. "ok"
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165. "He makes $7 mil a year. They aren't "losing" him."
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What do you think he would make calling games? Not in that UNIVERSE, that's for sure. Doc aint quitting. And if he does they save a boatload of cash.

Nothing lost for the C's really.

Ainge is playing this correctly. Cough up a 2014 pick or push on. CP3 gonna be thrilled at a late pick being the sticking point, btw.

  

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166. "Exactly. The ball is in the Clipps court. "
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They have to appease CP3.

They have to offer to get Doc.

What's Doc gonna do, broadcast, do graveling voiced lectures, and sit way too close behind Monty if Austin is used wrong.

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167. "If They're Doing All This to Make CP3 Happy"
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Then D12 will be a Clipper

  

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168. "Simmons broke down what he could make if he wasn't coaching"
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He wouldn't be making too much less than $7 mil. So he'll be fine.

And its come out that the Celtics were the ones that started this whole mess. Ainge approached Doc about the idea and thats how it all started.

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169. "of course the Cs started it, Ainge is swap meet shopping"
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he wanted to unload old guys for young guys and get assets for a coach that was likely on his way out also. ainge always make the effort, sometimes it pays off.

what i dont get is why the clips would engage him this much or let it all become public. now they are in a tough spot. if they cannot make this happen, every time DJ misses a foul shot some idiot will speculate as to Garnett's chances of making it and whatever completely competent coach they hire will be second guessed like D'Antoni, with Rivers become the new coach's Phil.

fortunately i feel like both sides have chilled out and something will get done that is fair here.

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170. "Everything you said is on point. "
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I think even with it coming out that its dead again and Doc will no longer purse it, I think it gets done.

Denver also made an effort but Doc ain't coaching in Denver.

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171. "Woj says Doc is done with Clippers"
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MIght just be floated out there so Stern will OK the Jordan for KG swap but...

"Rivers informed the Clippers on Friday afternoon that he no longer had interest in L.A.'s job, sources tell Y! It's Celtics or TV now."

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172. "Conflicting reports all over the place. LA Times says its not dead. "
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This whole thing is a mess. Embarrassing for all parties involved.

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176. "i dont get their pursuit of the jordan-garnett swap"
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that would take them out of the running for howard in an S+T, and then leave them vulnerable to losing paul in some weird team-up shenanigan in houston or dallas or wherever.

they need jordan's contract, basically. now they deal it for a rental just for the privilege of turning around and handing over a pick or two for a coach?

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175. "Or it might mean CP3 is leaving, lol"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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173. "SI: Doc Rivers tried to fight Rajon Rondo"
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Celtics needs to just get rid of the real problem, that overrated stat padding prima dona.

First he pushed Ray Allen to an NBA CHAMPIONSHIP, now he's a major factor in Doc wanting the fuck out of Boston.

http://tracking.si.com/2013/06/22/doc-rivers-rajon-rondo-fight/

  

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174. "Lol....yes, that's believable. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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192. "Explains why he handed the offense to him."
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If anything he seemed to need to rely less on Rondo, who is an average at best offensive player (though top 3 defensive PG).

  

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177. "Multiple sources report that the Clips offered a 1st rd pick"
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LA Times BA Turner says a deal is close to being done...we'll see.

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178. "DONE DEAL! Doc for unprotected 2015 pick"
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If the C's are getting a pick for KG, if there is a KG/DeAndre deal, it would have to happen on draft night or be a 2017 pick.

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179. "The league won't let any other deal between these teams go through. "
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I don't think they can prove that the deals aren't related.

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180. "if they approve the doc one, doesn't matter what happens next."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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186. "Yes it does. "
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The leagues stance is pretty firm on not letting a 2nd Clips/Celts deal go through. From what the media is saying, any subsequent deal will be shut down this season.

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181. "Now that that's over, ill take Hollins to replace Doc in Boston "
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I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark haired women and breakfast foods.
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184. "^^^^^ I would approve this..."
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haj20
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187. "They're trying to tank for Wiggins so Vinny should be hired. "
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188. "Ainge would definitely hire Vinny & that scares me a bit"
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Unless he's gonna completely blow things up,
there's no way we're bad enough to get Wiggins when he comes out.
Id much rather hire Hollins. I feel like he could work with Rondo's attitude.
Get the team to overachieve a bit & build with talent once KG/Pierce money starts comin off

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191. "Lol"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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194. "yep....that will work"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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183. "That works"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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189. "Like Haj said above, league won't allow any Bos/LAC deals this season"
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Deals contingent on coach compensation and player trades aren't allowed...there's already been way too much intermingling of those two in these reported scenarios to prove otherwise.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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182. "now he is coaching the best team in LA"
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glad for Doc and he will thrive there.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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185. "Clippers stay making dumb decisions "
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hadn't learned anything from the Kyrie debacle

you always protect the pick

always

  

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193. "You mean the debacle where they ended up with CP3 anyway?"
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yeah terrible...

  

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195. "RE: You mean the debacle where they ended up with CP3 anyway?"
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that pick had nothing to do CP3 tho

they got MoWill for that pick

  

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196. "they have CP3"
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aka who cares.

  

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197. "and got rid of Baron Davis. Double win."
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198. " CP3 is a free agent"
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last time I checked.

that's why they are in this unprotected pick mess again actually.

  

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199. "your point is moot until CP3 signs elsewhere so for now"
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go away.

  

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201. "I think they are safe here, playboy"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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202. "2015 draft is supposed to be another bad one too"
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205. "Says who?"
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Could be Okafor, Mudiay, Tyus, Karl Towns, James Young, Trey Lyles, Cliff Alexander......

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206. "eh, too far out to really evaluate, at least for me personally"
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but in any case the clippers pick will be in the 20s and it's just one pick. anyone can live with that

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212. "maybe"
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a lot can happen in two years.

  

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190. "So now the West has two of the top 3 coaches today"
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Paul is going to stay. Let's see if they actually deal for Howard. Things just got interesting.

  

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ConcreteCharlie
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200. "At the end of the day, both teams made out well in a fair deal"
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I still think the Clippers were dumb for even entertaining a deal that included players, but after all the back and forth this settled into something fair. They couldn't let him get away or anyone they hired would have been second guessed constantly. Nice move, hopefully they takes the Clips up a level.

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203. "I really hope Doc gets a chance to coach DJ and Bled."
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Vinny hindered their growth so much that they deserve a chance to really develop under a good coach.

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ConcreteCharlie
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204. "you know i am a DJ fan, don't get the hate"
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EmDub
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207. "Who has Doc developed into a star?"
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ThaTruth
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208. "Rondo?"
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211. "damn, he put that shit right on a tee for you"
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ThaTruth
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209. "damn, so Doc is head coach AND "Senior VP of Basketball Operations"?"
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Sounds like a nice little setup

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210. "all my years watching shitty pre-CP3 blowouts have paid off"
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