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bwood
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"Napoleon (Ridley Scott, 2023)"


          

Epic Ridley back!!!

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How can this not be a two part-er? or a trilogy?
Jul 11th 2023
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Yeah, my only concern is fitting all this into one movie.
Jul 29th 2023
4
RE: Napoleon (Ridley Scott, 2023)
Jul 26th 2023
2
Ridley Scott single handedly keeping historic epics alive
Jul 29th 2023
3
Disappointed
Nov 14th 2023
5
I wish studios would just release Ridley's intended cuts
Nov 23rd 2023
6
      I could have done with another hour (c) Sir Roger Deakins
Nov 24th 2023
8
Very clearly chopped down from something miniseries-length.
Nov 24th 2023
7
The directors cut is gonna be a banger
Nov 25th 2023
9

Buddy_Gilapagos
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1. "How can this not be a two part-er? or a trilogy?"
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Can't wait to see.


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Sat Jul-29-23 04:52 PM

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4. "Yeah, my only concern is fitting all this into one movie."
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Im not sure how they pull that off unless its some four hour old school epic. His Directors Cut of Kingdom of Heaven was 3+ hours.

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cheesecake
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2. "RE: Napoleon (Ridley Scott, 2023)"
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I wonder how much if any this film took from the Kubrick script

  

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Sofian_Hadi
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Sat Jul-29-23 04:50 PM

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3. "Ridley Scott single handedly keeping historic epics alive"
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Man is EIGHTY FIVE years old!! Im going to be extremely sad for my favorite genre when he passes on

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bwood
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Tue Nov-14-23 09:32 PM

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5. "Disappointed "
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As most of you know, I was hella excited for this. Ridley Scott back in full in epic mode with hundreds of extras with real explosions and sets and Joaquin playing one of the most notorious dictators to ever walk the Earth. I mean besides Julius Caesar, Hannibal Barca, Alexander the Great, and Genghis Khan who else came even close to conquering the know world?

So it brings me no joy to say that this was a massive let down. I'm happy to say that this movie has a sense of humor and it's extremely horny in a time where everyone seems very afraid of the notion of sex, but it is very disjointed. Not like MAESTRO where that was a stylistic choice that left me cold, but that it was choppy.

I'm interested to see if this was a KINGDOM OF HEAVEN situation where Ridley's 4 hour cut is a masterpiece, but the theatrical version is garbage. Seriously tho, I was bored for some stretches of this.

I really wish Ridley just used Kubrick's script.

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Sofian_Hadi
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6. "I wish studios would just release Ridley's intended cuts"
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Thu Nov-23-23 10:57 AM by Sofian_Hadi

          

Ridley has already said there is a 4hr+ version that he hopes Apple puts on their streaming service.

None of these movies are going to be Box Office giants so id imagine it'd be better if they go for awards and word of mouth. Kingdom of Heaven would have been waaaaay more successful if that Director's Cut was the only version.

I enjoyed this movie but the entire time i kept thinking "you can tell there is a way long version that was filmed, because this story seems hella rushed."

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8. "I could have done with another hour (c) Sir Roger Deakins"
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"And it wouldn't have made any more money or lost any more money, so what the hell" -- Deakins on the original cut of The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

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Frank Longo
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Fri Nov-24-23 12:41 AM

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7. "Very clearly chopped down from something miniseries-length."
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I know Ridley said he has a 4+ hour cut... but it honestly could've been even longer considering the scope of this thing. Instead of something long that tracks throughout, we get something that feels like the "greatest hits" with no connective tissue in place. Definitely still interesting throughout-- and the war sequences are truly terrific-- but ultimately feels like it's all dressed up with no place to go.

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9. "The directors cut is gonna be a banger"
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Felt like the producers wanted it both ways in creating an epic that’s a tight story, which is really the only thing I disliked about it. I was entertained throughout, just annoyed at the movie rushing through major stuff.

  

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