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Nodima
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"Extraction 2 (Hargrave, Netflix, 2023)"
Sat Jun-17-23 01:44 AM by Nodima

  

          

(Sorry, just gonna re-post my Letterboxd review here; if you liked the first one, no reason not to sprint to the couch to watch this one as well)


The first movie had a great deal of fun paying homage to both John Wick and The Raid as it told a taut, low stakes tale of a high stakes mission to remove a high value target from a warzone.It's charm was as vivid as it was spare: analog action cinema has leveled up, and we're sorry Marvel has relegated it to second fiddle regardless.

Sam Hargrave, the Russos and Thor return to Extraction knowing exactly what the people want, and for better or worse that's exactly what they deliver. One of the greatest gifts an action movie can give the viewer is an imperceptible passage of time, and Extraction 2 delivers an hour and a half of movie remarkably quickly before losing a bit of steam in the final act.

I get why some are disbelievers in the cult of the one-shot, particularly in a post-Birdman world where they've become so easy to fake that they can feel like peacocking as much a masterstroke of cinematic choreography. But both Extraction movies are stalwart examples of the benefits of a good, muscular extended sequence, with this movie in particular placing its take so early in the film that by the time it's over, I'm sure almost everyone who's watched it will feel like the movie was almost outlined in reverse, climaxing strangely early.

I'm just a sucker for the technique, that's all there is to it, and I honestly wished the "2" in the title promised just as many bravura escort missions rather than a single, doubly long (and equally breathless) event. The rest of the action is equally visceral, though at times it can feel a little gratuitous, similar to the way Netflix's The Night Comes for Us occasionally felt more like a fanboy's backyard tribute to Philippine action cinema as the real deal.

Enjoying this movie is also going to require a ready stomach for all the contrivances of Action Movie 101 screenwriting because the story they're telling - and, sadly, they do try to tell a story here in between set pieces - is total nonsense outside the narrow frame of "this is how we tell stories in action movies", making for a movie that's bloated by at least a half hour by conversations that mean very little and character motivations that are established more firmly by ammunition and fists than dialogue.

This franchise will probably never be as clever as the predecessors that inspired it (there's also a bit of Bond and Mission Impossible going on here) and the charm of seeing Thor do actual, real deal fight scenes can't possibly hit a second time, but I will always have room in my life for an action franchise that commits to its bit, and when it comes to visceral EXTRACTION one shots and clever cinematic executions (I'm a particular fan of the treadmill spot) Hargrave is two for two. Let's keep handing stuntmen the director's chair.


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I found it largely dull
Jun 17th 2023
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i swear a lot of these filmmakers absolutely despise their children.
Jun 17th 2023
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I can't stand kids in stuff like this, for all those reasons
Jun 19th 2023
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I thought this fucking ruled, honestly, lol.
Jun 18th 2023
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yeaaah
Jun 18th 2023
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Yeah, I’m standing in this line as well
Jun 18th 2023
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yup.
Jun 18th 2023
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I was surprised you hadn't started the thread!
Jun 19th 2023
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navajo joe
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Sat Jun-17-23 12:22 PM

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1. "I found it largely dull"
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I think a large part of the success of the first one belongs not to its action filmmaking and stitched together "one-er" but Randeep Hooda's Saju. No one in this film holds a candle certainly not strip mall Jiu Jitsu teacher they have as the villain in this one.

Also, it's really fine to not do extended long-take sequences. A 30-minute extended take isn't necessarily any more visceral or immersive or of an experience than a masterfully edited action sequence.

It's the same thing with Tom Cruise doing ever more daring stunts. At a certain point, the human brain can't really tell the difference if Tom Cruise is doing the stunt or not so it doesn't really add all that much besides the viewer having to consciously hold that thought in their mind. Just like they have to consciously hold the thought that "wow, this is all one shot" also breaking the immersion.

Additionally, if the sequence is too long it loses a lot of its vitality because it has to be so ruthlessly choreographed and perfectly executed that it loses a good bit of the "messiness" and chaos that makes it feel real.

It's like David Blaine doing card magic on the street vs. being buried alive or holding his breath forever. Think of the reactions the former gets vs. the latter and why people jump out of their clothes for the card magic and nod and say "wow, that white boy's crazy" at the other. Scale matters.

Finally, not a great idea to evoke The Killer and then turn in what is clearly an after-thought of an action sequence and do so as the climax of the film. Doesn't help that there aren't really any heightened stakes because you don't care if the son dies. Imagine the ending of The Killer if you don't care if Jenny dies.

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.Monkeynuts.
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Sat Jun-17-23 10:34 PM

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2. "i swear a lot of these filmmakers absolutely despise their children."
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thats the only way i can see why these folks make these young characters so idiotic and unlikeable.

like you might not be rooting for the kid to suffer a villains fate...but you wouldnt exactly be mad if it happened either lol.

on another note...i thought the entire sequence from the prison break to safety was dope.

but sheesh that son was so fucking annoying.

  

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8. "I can't stand kids in stuff like this, for all those reasons"
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I remember trying to get into Falling Skies.

Early on, his kid is bitching because it's his birthday, and DAD YOU PROMISED, or some shit.

Look around, you miniature idiot, we're in a fucking war with motherfucking *aliens*.

From another planet.

Fuck your birthday.

I hoped the little bastard would get eaten alive.

NO such luck, unless it came later. I tapped out partway through S1.

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3. "I thought this fucking ruled, honestly, lol."
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It's lean, it's sleek, it's super violent, and it delivers on exactly what it promises. It's like a DTV actioner with a studio budget, and that's a *very* high compliment coming from me, lol. Outside of John Wick 4, you won't see better action in a studio picture all year.

Hemsworth's really good at this kind of movie, tbh. And two movies in, Hargraves is the real deal imo.

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Sun Jun-18-23 01:19 AM

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4. "yeaaah"
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it's brisk, doesn't spend too much time on the nonsensical and non-fun plot points, and the only real action complaint is the reverse-order climax

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5. "Yeah, I’m standing in this line as well"
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I thought the movie was fun and had some great action scenes.

The prison break scene was fantastic from beginning to end, same with the train scene.

  

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6. "yup. "
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Some people were expecting this to be more than what it presented itself to be. I'm in line for a 3rd and 4th Rake film.

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Nodima
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Mon Jun-19-23 08:28 AM

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7. "I was surprised you hadn't started the thread!"
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If it didn't come across, I did love this movie too, I just couldn't let go of the things that others might dislike.

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