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"The Deuce (Season 2, HBO)"


  

          

September 9, 2018.

The Deuce (2018) | Season 2 Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U3f9aDvJGA

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Dope. Can't believe it's already here.
Aug 20th 2018
1
nice!
Aug 21st 2018
2
Can't wait.
Aug 21st 2018
3
I have to admit
Aug 21st 2018
4
I forgot about those. Refresh my memory ?
Aug 21st 2018
5
RE: I forgot about those. Refresh my memory ?
Aug 21st 2018
6
      That's a pretty expansive article.
Aug 22nd 2018
7
      RE: That's a pretty expansive article.
Aug 22nd 2018
11
      Nvm what I said that all sounds incredibly believable. Haha.
Aug 22nd 2018
9
yeah the #Metoo movement doesn't seem to be winning
Aug 22nd 2018
8
RE: yeah the #Metoo movement doesn't seem to be winning
Aug 22nd 2018
10
i wouldn't say that. there are levels
Aug 23rd 2018
19
Nope. Is it a good show? Yep.
Aug 22nd 2018
12
nope.
Aug 22nd 2018
13
I really, really struggle to tie artists to their art.
Aug 22nd 2018
15
      not to judge you, or criticize, but here's a thought:
Aug 23rd 2018
17
           Honestly, it hasn't changed my opinion in the past.
Aug 23rd 2018
18
Very excited, but what happened to it moving to LA
Aug 22nd 2018
14
I don't remember that at all.
Aug 22nd 2018
16
huh,..i have no idea where i got that in my head
Aug 23rd 2018
20
Maybe you are thinking of Ballers?
Aug 23rd 2018
21
      nah, never seen ballers
Aug 24th 2018
23
is it worth me binging season 1 right quick?
Aug 24th 2018
22
Yes. it's a preety damn good show
Aug 26th 2018
24
aint nobody watching this? this season is building nicely
Sep 24th 2018
25
Episode 3 was INSANELY great
Sep 24th 2018
26
agreed with everything...
Sep 24th 2018
27
      If Meth gets popped by Big G again....
Sep 25th 2018
28
           RE: If Meth gets popped by Big G again....
Sep 25th 2018
29
RE: watching and loving it.
Sep 25th 2018
30
hot and cold
Oct 07th 2018
31
i've liked them all...
Oct 08th 2018
32
loving the season. I have one minor complaint
Oct 10th 2018
33
Yup. Its my big issue too
Oct 12th 2018
34
it also doesn't make sense for their relationship
Oct 12th 2018
35
Lori (spoiler)
Oct 16th 2018
36
Daamn (spoiler)
Oct 29th 2018
37
Lol at Black Frankie’s reaction
Oct 29th 2018
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RE: Lol at Black Frankie’s reaction
Oct 30th 2018
40
Frankie’s seen some shit
Oct 30th 2018
43
so good
Dec 14th 2018
56
she got sent in to buy that weed late in the first season
Oct 30th 2018
39
ah, thanks.
Oct 30th 2018
45
You could see it all coming though
Oct 30th 2018
41
I kinda figured it would happen...
Oct 31st 2018
46
you could see it coming
Nov 05th 2018
48
Anyone think...
Oct 30th 2018
42
probably
Oct 30th 2018
44
I don't see Abby dying...
Oct 31st 2018
47
Damn i thought Lori was preggers for sure
Nov 05th 2018
49
Yeah, me too.
Nov 06th 2018
50
      Same below about Lori
Nov 06th 2018
52
      The white dude Dave is a legit suspect to me
Nov 06th 2018
54
           this would be interesting...but i don't know
Nov 06th 2018
55
"Naw, that new place ain't shit."
Nov 06th 2018
51
Predictions
Nov 06th 2018
53

Brew
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1. "Dope. Can't believe it's already here."
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2. "nice!"
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3. "Can't wait."
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4. "I have to admit"
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The #metoo allegations leveled at James Franco have me looking at this show somewhat sideways, at least in terms of tuning in and showing support. Anyone else have those nagging thoughts?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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Brew
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5. "I forgot about those. Refresh my memory ?"
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I mean I remember something came up about him but it seemed to have gone away pretty quick. Which in this landscape makes me skeptical. But I'd need full info before stating for sure.

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6. "RE: I forgot about those. Refresh my memory ?"
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>I mean I remember something came up about him but it seemed
>to have gone away pretty quick. Which in this landscape makes
>me skeptical. But I'd need full info before stating for sure.


Five women accuse actor James Franco of inappropriate or sexually exploitative behavior

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-james-franco-allegations-20180111-htmlstory.html

  

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7. "That's a pretty expansive article."
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Wed Aug-22-18 08:07 AM by Numba_33

  

          

Thanks for posting it. To be completely honest, I only knew about him communicating with the under aged girl on twitter; I had no clue he did anything physical.

Somewhat interesting HBO and David Simon are sticking with him despite these accusations.

**edit**

My apologies if this topic completely torpedoes this thread away from discussion from the show; just that this stuck in my mind towards the end the the first season when I heard about these rumors.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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j0510
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11. "RE: That's a pretty expansive article."
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>Thanks for posting it. To be completely honest, I only knew
>about him communicating with the under aged girl on twitter; I
>had no clue he did anything physical.
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>Somewhat interesting HBO and David Simon are sticking with him
>despite these accusations.
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>**edit**
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>My apologies if this topic completely torpedoes this thread
>away from discussion from the show; just that this stuck in my
>mind towards the end the the first season when I heard about
>these rumors.


Don't worry about it. It's an important topic that needs to be discussed even within the context of the show (power dynamics/gender dynamics).

  

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9. "Nvm what I said that all sounds incredibly believable. Haha."
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8. "yeah the #Metoo movement doesn't seem to be winning"
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Franco's back with the Deuce Season 2
Hardwick's back on AMC
Aziz is going to get season 3 of Master of None
Johnny Depp doesn't seem to be doing to badly.


So far it seems like Weinstein, Louis CK and Spacey are the only ones who really got hammered by all this. And out of those three I wouldn't be surprised if Louis CK eventually made a comeback.

  

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10. "RE: yeah the #Metoo movement doesn't seem to be winning"
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CK fell on his phallus. if he hadn't, he'd probably be on your earlier list, and i'm sure he realizes it. (btw, asia argento another casualty.)

  

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19. "i wouldn't say that. there are levels"
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Aziz was a shitty date, and an ass, but didn't do anything that wasn't consensual, or that he deserved to lose his career over.

Weinstein is a straight up rapist, Spacey is a pedo.

Louis came clean and admitted he wielded power over women to do his weirdo shit. There's a chance he'll be back in a few years at a lower level of success.

I haven't refreshed on the Franco thing, i remember he in a round about way semi-denied it while saying it's not his place to speak on it. whatever he did it seems to have worked.

there are plenty more people somewhere in the middle of the weinstein/aziz spectrum who have lost out to metoo with good reason.

  

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12. "Nope. Is it a good show? Yep."
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If the allegations turn out to be true, if you don't want to support a good show because of HIM then thats fine. But we don't know enough to decide. So we shouldn't. I love that possible victims have a voice in this climate but not sure where and why its okay for people decided and ruin careers based on one side. Just because you have a voice doesn't mean you are speaking the truth. It should be okay to be indifferent till the truth is out but people will try to look down on you. Thats a you problem not a me problem.




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13. "nope."
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15. "I really, really struggle to tie artists to their art."
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But I also don't go to many shows or buy many albums or whatever, so I guess I don't always have that moral quandary attached that others might.


All I know is that what Louis C.K. did was really shitty and I'm glad the women he assaulted were finally willing to call him out on it; I wish we could have another season of Louie, I hope we get another stand-up special and I'd recommend Horace and Pete to ANYONE.


And The Deuce was a good show, and James Franco was good in it, and Pelacanos/Simon gave themselves the perfect out to lose him from the cast with the time jump, so if THOSE dudes weren't dropping Franco over the stories I choose to trust them, and I'm not gonna let those stories stop me from watching a good show from creators I love, or ruin the trailer for Pineapple Express the next time I randomly think about it while stoned.


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17. "not to judge you, or criticize, but here's a thought:"
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I was in a conversation about this last year, and when this part came up, I couldn't really think the same way.

Yeah, we can have this debate about appreciating the art despite the artist, but then, how would it be if the victim was one of your friends? Current partner? Family member?

I and most people I know would draw the line there. Fuck their shows, fuck their movies, fuck their whole careers.

So choosing the art knowing (or having good reason to believe) that the artist/performer behind it is a scumbag is basically admitting that the victim doesn't really matter to you.

And I mean, that's legit. You don't know them any more than you know the celebrities that allegedly sexually exploited, took advantage of or assaulted them.

Personally, I find it hard to look beyond. We're at time now where we're getting an overwhelming amount of quality media. Tons of great shows, tons of great movies, tons of great music. If I choose not to support stuff made by known rapists and sexual predators, luckily that still leaves plenty of things to watch.

I guess the blurry part is if you think the celeb is innocent and being wrongfully accused.

  

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18. "Honestly, it hasn't changed my opinion in the past."
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Thu Aug-23-18 12:39 PM by Nodima

  

          

There's a local dude that has always been a Wilding Out type of character going all the way back to middle school. Always jumping into playing different characters and controlling the room; basically a black Robin Williams in a way. He used to be notorious for sneaking up on girls at house parties and making out with them without asking, pulling Trump kind of moves and getting rebuffed. He sexually assaulted at least five girls that I know of, at least one of which he fingered without consent. The last of these stories was over five years ago, but anyone who's known him long enough knows him.

These days he's married with a daughter and is basically a daily remix of Kanye's attitude on "Violent Crimes". He still has good taste in music, still puts on pretty entertaining shows, still gives great interviews, and you can tell he realizes he let the lesser parts of his outgoing personality get the best of him way too often in his teens through his mid/late-20s.

I won't ever forget that that's a part of his story, but I was just never able to connect that to the entertainment side of him because it never came up in that context. Sometimes I won't listen to a thing RIGHT AWAY; there was that indie rock band, PWR BTTM, that had a swift swing of publicity and positive reviews before it was revealed one of the band members was a serial sexual assaulter and the label dropped them, the albums were recalled and everyone reversed course on whether the album was any good.

Most amateur reviews since then contain some variation of, "I really wish I could still listen to this because it's so fun and refreshing." I guess I see that as a sort of dishonesty, though I can see how someone could see the opposite (continuing to listen to an artist you objectively disagree with as a person) as dishonest as well.

I used to work with a girl who went to college with those dudes and was hyping their upcoming album every single day before it came out, playing me demos they sent her over DM and gushing about how their sound had evolved since she first met them. So I couldn't help but listen to the album when it came out, and all the pre-reviews before the allegations surfaced were right - it was a breath of fresh air for 2017 indie rock, and rightly being touted as one of the year's most fun and slightly inventive releases. But now no one will say that, for reasons that have nothing to do with the music.

They were clearly one of her very favorite bands; I wonder how their situation affected her often. And sometimes I think I might have too voracious an appetite for art, but there are all sorts of legendary and classic pieces made by bad people. Jay-Z made "The Blueprint" after he nearly murdered somebody; I'll never forget that. I'll also never be able to say that isn't one of my very favorite rap albums ever.



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14. "Very excited, but what happened to it moving to LA"
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I thought I had read that after season 1 ended Simon had mentioned season 2 would be years later in the LA porn industry. I assumed maybe Maggie would make the move, but also assumed most of the s01 characters would be gone.

I guess I was wrong. Not upset at all.

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16. "I don't remember that at all."
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Wed Aug-22-18 11:41 PM by Nodima

  

          

All the news I heard was that this was essentially an anthology series about three eras of Times Square; the anything goes seventies, the crime and violence ridden 80s, and the clean up of the 90s.


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20. "huh,..i have no idea where i got that in my head"
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i can't find any source for that. guess i must have imagined it...

i definitely remembered talk of it skipping 6 or 7 years, which seems to be the case

either way!


sidenote: i love how the clips of david krumholtz he's back to being thin. i love him as an actor and am always fascinated by how much he fluctuates weight. i wonder how much of it is his commitment to a role, or if he really does organically yo-yo so much. i

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21. "Maybe you are thinking of Ballers?"
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There were rumors that they were going to move from Miami to LA and they did in fact move.

  

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23. "nah, never seen ballers"
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i think i misheard the LA part and DID hear the "fast forward 5 years" and "porn"

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22. "is it worth me binging season 1 right quick? "
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24. "Yes. it's a preety damn good show "
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It's Simon so you know the characters and stories intertwine for the overall arch. I've personally have never been big on Maggie G, but this made me come around. Her acting was great and much of the cast is just as great.

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25. "aint nobody watching this? this season is building nicely"
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it's been interesting seeing how all of the characters evolved...or de-volved

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26. "Episode 3 was INSANELY great"
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every detail, large and small.

the contrast of the NY/LA scenes. Both Lori and Candy getting a taste of something different and being pulled back to "reality" in their own ways.

the protests outside the awards, the corkboard of pimp babies in that van.

i couldn't figure out who Ashley was at the end of the last episode but it clicked when she asked about CC.

Such an interesting depiction of Pimps. You saw shades of their weakness and insecurities last season, but it has really ramped up as times change and it's becoming so much more obvious as their relevancy fades. Rodney's a junkie who thinks he's playing it off... Chris Partlow seems like a lost little boy in some scenes. CC from being terrified of flying or anything outside his bubble trying to maintain his image. As Lori continues to grow and he feels weaker, i worry about how he's gonna respond.

you're right, they're building this story beautifully.

  

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27. "agreed with everything..."
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Bringing the girl who ran last season was brilliant...she looks so damn different it's kinda scary. That final scene between her and CC was really well done.

Btw - The guy who plays CC is def a star. I've never seen him before but I won't be surprised if he blows up after this. He is probably the biggest POS out of the pimps and yet he's somehow really like-able.

Meth's reaction to Slim Charles coming back was awesome lmao

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28. "If Meth gets popped by Big G again...."
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That would be so funny.

That was for Joe.....

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29. "RE: If Meth gets popped by Big G again...."
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lmaoooo that'd be incredible...he goes back to jail until Season 3

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30. "RE: watching and loving it."
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31. "hot and cold "
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Some eps are zzzzzzzz (4)
Episode 3 and 5 really good

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32. "i've liked them all..."
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i guess i'm used to the cadence of Simon's shows...the slow build works for me.

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33. "loving the season. I have one minor complaint "
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Abby being so oblivious to Frankie's involvement with brothels/the mob makes zero sense. She's sharp as hell, shes a bartender in the middle of all of it. Shes friendly with all the girls, etc.. it's a really weird writing choice.

The rest has been stellar. I could watch a Black Mike & Black Frankie spinoff for sure. When Frankie just nodded when the mob guy shot the other dude in the head, you knew he was with the business. The small details on this show are so good, like dude with the hook. Likely a fellow vet. But even just how dirty everything is. Some movies/shows are so polished. All the cars are new, etc.

The exchange with Ashley and CC was great.he hit his shots in but she bodied him was that final chuckle

  

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34. "Yup. Its my big issue too"
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>Abby being so oblivious to Frankie's involvement with
>brothels/the mob makes zero sense. She's sharp as hell, shes a
>bartender in the middle of all of it. Shes friendly with all
>the girls, etc.. it's a really weird writing choice.
>

and while I love this season because its so damn well made, its a problem that’s not just about her...many of the characters regressed.

Last season should have been her fresh fish in nyc story, instead the show introduced her as a self actualized badass (which was a great unique take on that trope), only to have her niave in season 2?

Its something thats affected the pimps also; while there is an ominous reckoning in the distance thisyear,,, you went from first season’s take that they are dangerous with nothing to lose.. to them almost being comedic relief. Even the evilest pimp now, CeCe, went from a homicidal maniac first season to kind of a run of the mill abuser/aspiring director. lol. The desperation they had last year has kind of disappeared which seems weird when now is the time much of their trade is losing out to ‘technology’

  

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35. "it also doesn't make sense for their relationship"
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They are pretty open about each other's dirt with one another...why wouldn't he just be up front about this? It comes off like a drama gimmick that you'd see in another show but doesn't fit here.

>Abby being so oblivious to Frankie's involvement with
>brothels/the mob makes zero sense. She's sharp as hell, shes a
>bartender in the middle of all of it. Shes friendly with all
>the girls, etc.. it's a really weird writing choice.

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36. "Lori (spoiler)"
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is she pregnant?
last week they made a point to show CC bust in her. this week her dress doesn't quite fit.
we also got another shot of the pimp baby cork board in the van.
i think it's coming. I can see her getting an abortion, and CC finding out, and who knows from there

  

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37. "Daamn (spoiler)"
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I hope dude who plays CC get's more work. He's got hella presence.

I never figured on him going out at the hands of Sabotka. Even once he got there, i figured Black Frankie was all he needed to worry about

Lori pretty much being trafficed

Larry getting punked for his roll like that. I cant remember if we ever saw his ex girl go away?


  

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38. "Lol at Black Frankie’s reaction "
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40. "RE: Lol at Black Frankie’s reaction "
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"Damn, you murdered the shit out of that motherfucker" might be the line of the season.

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43. "Frankie’s seen some shit"
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dude is never shocked. Dude nodded along when Longo shot that guy in the street

  

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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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39. "she got sent in to buy that weed late in the first season"
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It mostly felt like a cast slimming move so makes sense nobody remembers it.

I'm torn on CC; I definitely feel emotional about it more because he was one of the only characters on the show that had a Wire-like quality to him.

More than last season, this season I feel like I'm seeing through the seams of this too much. All these characters are going through major dramatic changes but their actual roles aren't really changing for the most part. Vince and Frankie keep making their respective faces, Candy keeps delivering every line like plot armor flows through her veins rather than blood, Paul is just a smirk and mustache at this point, Abi keeps making her disappointed faces and rolling her eyes, D'Angelo is a damn robot...

I feel like I can predict exactly how every character is going to act in every scene...

EXCEPT CC and Larry Brown. This has been a real frustrating season for me because they've convinced me to care about a lot of these characters and I really enjoy the setting and the dialogue...but the acting bugs me almost universally so it has to be something with the show itself I just can't put my finger on it. Sometimes I feel like I'm watching community theater, and losing CC just feels like salt in the wound. I guess now it makes sense why Rodney's been getting more screen time; now I'm just hoping this whole Red Hot thing backfires, Vince and Frankie get offed and Season 3 is all about Larry Brown's Dirk Diggler journey.

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45. "ah, thanks. "
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>I'm torn on CC; I definitely feel emotional about it more
>because he was one of the only characters on the show that had
>a Wire-like quality to him.

CC and Lori are probably my favorites on the show. Their interactions and 'relationship' have been fascinating since the first time they met. As fucked up and tense as their scenes can be, I will miss them playing off each other.

>
>More than last season, this season I feel like I'm seeing
>through the seams of this too much. All these characters are
>going through major dramatic changes but their actual roles
>aren't really changing for the most part. Vince and Frankie
>keep making their respective faces, Candy keeps delivering
>every line like plot armor flows through her veins rather than
>blood, Paul is just a smirk and mustache at this point, Abi
>keeps making her disappointed faces and rolling her eyes,
>D'Angelo is a damn robot...

I don't share many of the same feelings as you but you got me cracking up about people making faces

>EXCEPT CC and Larry Brown. This has been a real frustrating
>season for me because they've convinced me to care about a lot
>of these characters and I really enjoy the setting and the
>dialogue...but the acting bugs me almost universally so it has
>to be something with the show itself I just can't put my
>finger on it. Sometimes I feel like I'm watching community
>theater, and losing CC just feels like salt in the wound. I
>guess now it makes sense why Rodney's been getting more screen
>time; now I'm just hoping this whole Red Hot thing backfires,
>Vince and Frankie get offed and Season 3 is all about Larry
>Brown's Dirk Diggler journey.

I don't think the timing is right for a Larry Diggler plot. We're gonna be in about 83 well into video tape. If we wanted that we'd need a Larry Brown spin off

  

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41. "You could see it all coming though"
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Dude just wouldn't shut the fuck up. And he was all in his feelings after getting punked by the mafia, so he thought he'd try to flex a little muscle, and ended up fucking with the wrong one.

Felt shitty that Lori had to get raped first though before he got his just desserts.

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46. "I kinda figured it would happen..."
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but I assumed the deal with the mob was gonna go wrong somehow...like he was going to do something to ol' girl that last night that ruined their investment.

I was honestly looking forward to seeing washed C.C. after time has passed him by...I'm looking forward to seeing more work from this actor. He was one my favorites on the show.

Larry's girl got locked up in that weird drug deal. Larry just bounced on her when she got locked up. I remember it mostly because I had just seen that Chappelle special when he talks about the pimp brainwashing his chick and it felt so similar. Despite all of this, I was really surprised by his reaction...even more so by him looking at his other girl for approval lol

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48. "you could see it coming"
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whether due to irrelevance or ego, he was going to remain forever locked in time as a pimp. that he was scared to get on a plane and was willing to let her go to LA in the first place, was a sign.

it became clear that he wasn't going to go away quietly as he was dealt with by the made men. whether through bobby or someone else, he wasn't making it through this season alive.

i suppose that will be the dividing line as new york continues to transition: those who can adapt, and those who are unwilling/unable.

  

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42. "Anyone think..."
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...Abby might get popped the next episode? Longo warned Vincent last episode that she wasn't making any friends working with Ashley and the guy from out of town.

I also think it might be the end of Rodney/Method Man next week. Either he gets popped trying to rob the spot or ODs and dies after stealing and taking the stuff.

I've also been expecting Vince or Frankie to drop dead at some point. Frankie talking about how he can't picture himself being old, Vince wanting to get out of the life. They could kill off Frankie and then have Vince run off to Vermont to tend bar in Vermont. It'd give them a way to write Russo out of the show in light of all the #metoo stuff.

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44. "probably"
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Abby or Frankie (Rodney too). Ashley seems to be the obvious choice but her fucking it up for somrone else seems more likely.

I thought the same thing when Frankie was talking about getting old. The future looks bleak for most of these characters. The pimps are all but done. Paul, and the mayor's guy seem destined for AIDS when we push ahead another 5 years.

I don't see Franco being written off the show (unless it was his choice), they could leave it open ended enough in case more stuff surfaces i guess

I wonder if Vince not shooting Hodas thing will come back to bite him Benny Blanco style. Also I keep forgetting he' a dead beat dad. He's seen as a good dude, but he's a shitbird.

  

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47. "I don't see Abby dying..."
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I think Ashley for sure especially now that CC is gone...the other pimps were convinced to stay away by him and now that's he's gone they have no reason to.

I think if anything, Abby might leave at some point. Her and Vincent will break up but I don't think either of them dies. Frankie might die though.

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49. "Damn i thought Lori was preggers for sure"
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at the beginning when she was yacking. her reactions to all this were fascinating. I was legit wondering how she was gonna take the news about CC. I didn't know if she was gonna lash out at Frankie, or be happy about it all. We saw how even after CC let her go, he was this looming figure for her. It was good to see her find some happiness.

Same for Darlene. Her whole speech to Larry Brown about how letting her in on the acting made her realize what a fraud he was was great.

Ashley/Dorothy flew too close to the sun. Not surprising but I still let out an "Oh shit" when I saw her ID.

Predictions for 1983/84? Besides aids for a couple characters?

  

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50. "Yeah, me too."
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Only reason I figure she wasn't because they had Darlene be pregnant last week.

>at the beginning when she was yacking. her reactions to all
>this were fascinating. I was legit wondering how she was gonna
>take the news about CC. I didn't know if she was gonna lash
>out at Frankie, or be happy about it all. We saw how even
>after CC let her go, he was this looming figure for her. It
>was good to see her find some happiness.

I definitely felt good seeing her get picked up in LA be that dude and actually be smiling about the whole thing.


>Ashley/Dorothy flew too close to the sun. Not surprising but I
>still let out an "Oh shit" when I saw her ID.

When I saw the carpet, I thought it was going to be CC. But once they showed Chris looking at the purse, I knew it had to be her.

I also like that they don't ever tell whether it was the pimps we did it. Or if it was, which one. Could have been CC. Or just one of the randoms who've been in background this season. It's a trip to think that of the original four, three are dead and Larry is out the game.

>Predictions for 1983/84? Besides aids for a couple
>characters?

Vincent and Abby have to be broken up. Vincent knows they're going different places. Hopefully they'll just be broken up and we didn't have to watch it play out, which seems pointless.

I think Darlene and the other girl stay out the game. Shay probably stays in it. Prostitution really is something you age out of.

I'm hoping Larry is still around, but clearly not as a pimp anymore. I don't know if legit acting is going to take, but I hope so.

I don't really see a reason for Candy/Elaine, Lori, and Harvey to still be around. It all shifts to Los Angeles. Maybe we see Elaine trying to deal with her now adult son resenting the shit out of her.

Frankie is still a fuck-up. Bobby's turned his kid into fuck-up. I hope Black Frankie and Mike are still around, but they could just as easily be dead. Or Mike could also have AIDS.


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52. "Same below about Lori"
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>Only reason I figure she wasn't because they had Darlene be
>pregnant last week.
>

My predictions:

-Abby definitely leaves Vincent and is likely involved in some sort of outreach program...she likely doubles down on that work somehow.

-Darlene stays out of the game and we never see her again except maybe in passing

-I think Candy is still in the next season and we see her blow up in porn but unable to break out of that. The mob likely keeps her around since her movies are profitable.

-I'm curious about Larry...we'll see where he ends up

-Sabotka is def dying next season...he's in too deep and way in over his head. I'm guessing he tries to turn on the mob or does something stupid. Either that or his son gets him in some deep shit.

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54. "The white dude Dave is a legit suspect to me"
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>Only reason I figure she wasn't because they had Darlene be
>pregnant last week.
>
>>at the beginning when she was yacking. her reactions to all
>>this were fascinating. I was legit wondering how she was
>gonna
>>take the news about CC. I didn't know if she was gonna lash
>>out at Frankie, or be happy about it all. We saw how even
>>after CC let her go, he was this looming figure for her. It
>>was good to see her find some happiness.
>
>I definitely felt good seeing her get picked up in LA be that
>dude and actually be smiling about the whole thing.
>
>
>>Ashley/Dorothy flew too close to the sun. Not surprising but
>I
>>still let out an "Oh shit" when I saw her ID.
>
>When I saw the carpet, I thought it was going to be CC. But
>once they showed Chris looking at the purse, I knew it had to
>be her.
>
>I also like that they don't ever tell whether it was the pimps
>we did it. Or if it was, which one. Could have been CC. Or
>just one of the randoms who've been in background this season.
>It's a trip to think that of the original four, three are dead
>and Larry is out the game.
to treat a former sex worker who got out and came back to help others with such disdain for how it affected "his mission," paints him as having a fucked up god complex who would even use martyrdom to further his cause. I'm sure Alston will solve the case.


>>Predictions for 1983/84? Besides aids for a couple
>>characters?
>
>Vincent and Abby have to be broken up. Vincent knows they're
>going different places. Hopefully they'll just be broken up
>and we didn't have to watch it play out, which seems
>pointless.
>
>I think Darlene and the other girl stay out the game. Shay
>probably stays in it. Prostitution really is something you age
>out of.
>
>I'm hoping Larry is still around, but clearly not as a pimp
>anymore. I don't know if legit acting is going to take, but I
>hope so.
>
>I don't really see a reason for Candy/Elaine, Lori, and Harvey
>to still be around. It all shifts to Los Angeles. Maybe we see
>Elaine trying to deal with her now adult son resenting the
>shit out of her.
>
>Frankie is still a fuck-up. Bobby's turned his kid into
>fuck-up. I hope Black Frankie and Mike are still around, but
>they could just as easily be dead. Or Mike could also have
>AIDS.
>
>
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by the time the show comes back it'll be a cold case. i don't think this ever gets solved.

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51. ""Naw, that new place ain't shit.""
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Black Frankie is a cold-hearted M.F.

Oh, and Method Man got capped by Daniel LaRusso. Perfect.

Good, and really "bloody" finale. Body count seemed pretty damn high.

Having Elaine & Harvey make a hit, and then not make any money off of it is classic David Simon.

Gandolfini Jr.s character is such a sucker, but his father is really leaded him down the poisoned path.

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- Abby becomes a lawyer

- Paul gets AIDS

- Larry is an actor. That last line sounded real Beverly Hills Cop.

- D'Angelo is a captain

- Longo gets popped

- Frankie makes it to the mid 80s but he gon die

- With her relationship with her son as the driver....Candy either doubles down on porn or eventually gets into major motion picture directing...more light is shed on her relationship with father dearest as well

- Not sure what Vince will be doing, I'm guessing he'll either be all the way out or he'll have leveled up to something else.

- Bob's son takes over and expands the enterprise

  

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