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CaptNish
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"VALERIAN (Besson, 2017)"


  

          

Mother. Fucker. That. Beatles. Remix. Is. Amazing.



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NOPE. Not watching this trailer. Nope nope nope.
Nov 10th 2016
1
Yep, I saw the trailer in the theaters & was sold.
Mar 29th 2017
8
looks good. but it's hard to forget about lucy
Nov 12th 2016
2
Lucy was bad
Nov 12th 2016
3
When they were about to kiss, they looked like the same person.
Nov 12th 2016
4
Noticed that too
Nov 14th 2016
6
Grew up reading the graphic Novel
Nov 12th 2016
5
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets | Teaser Trailer 2
Mar 29th 2017
7
Final Trailer
May 24th 2017
9
saw a commercial last night. looks interesting.
May 24th 2017
10
Tis dope
Jun 22nd 2017
11
looks pretty and dumb. I'm in
Jun 26th 2017
12
Don't waste your money.
Jul 21st 2017
13
Absolutely loved it. It will be polarizing but plot isn't the point.
Jul 22nd 2017
14
Would you compare this to The Fifth Element?
Jul 22nd 2017
15
      Sort of but with some crucial differences:
Jul 23rd 2017
16
Really terrific... with the exception of DeHaan, who is miscast.
Jul 24th 2017
17
Finally going to see it this week.
Nov 13th 2017
18

Frank Longo
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1. "NOPE. Not watching this trailer. Nope nope nope."
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I'm all in based on the director, cast, and title. I don't even want to know what it's about.

Oh, and I just re-watched Lucy recently, and it's *still* terrific.

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TheRealBillyOcean
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8. "Yep, I saw the trailer in the theaters & was sold."
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Don't need to see another thing. Commercial. Billboard.

Just set a reminder for the release date. Go to Fandango. And burn one.

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Hellyeah
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Sat Nov-12-16 06:10 AM

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2. "looks good. but it's hard to forget about lucy"
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ToeJam
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3. "Lucy was bad"
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Just plain bad. Could never get past that horrible, facebook conservative science. This looks cool, tho.

  

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JFrost1117
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Sat Nov-12-16 02:59 PM

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4. "When they were about to kiss, they looked like the same person."
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6. "Noticed that too"
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Nappy Soul
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Sat Nov-12-16 09:23 PM

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5. "Grew up reading the graphic Novel"
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Valerian et Laureline were some of the best science fiction books of my childhood besides Luc Orient ( Which needs its own movie) as well as Yoko Tsuno.

If this came out right after 5th Element I would have had complete faith that he'd pull it off but his recent projects make me worried. Lucy was trash.

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j0510
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Wed Mar-29-17 10:28 AM

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7. "Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets | Teaser Trailer 2"
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Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets | Teaser Trailer 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsG7WJVZv8

  

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j0510
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9. "Final Trailer"
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Final Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcIlQFPbPnM

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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Wed May-24-17 09:39 AM

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10. "saw a commercial last night. looks interesting."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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bwood
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Thu Jun-22-17 12:03 AM

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11. "Tis dope"
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I had hella fun watching this. Super cliched, but hella fun.

The film is visually unlike anything I've seen so far this year. And the 3D is incredible. Best use of 3D so far in 2017 (Outside Ghost in the Shell, but this is a MUCH better movie).

I hope I get another 3D screening. I wanna vape beforehand.

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12. "looks pretty and dumb. I'm in"
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n/m

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ToeJam
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13. "Don't waste your money."
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Poorly cast and acted. And written. First half world building was cool, tho. But man this slagged on with pointless, overstimulating, clustered action.

  

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Jon
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Sat Jul-22-17 07:44 AM

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14. "Absolutely loved it. It will be polarizing but plot isn't the point."
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And honestly, acting isn't even the point, although I was pleasantly surprised by the leads because I was expecting much worse.

It's an old comic book brought to the screen, and it remembers that it's a comic book, unlike these other superhero films that take themselves so friggin seriously.

It's cheeky, whimsical, and simple...I found the simple childlike take on love and adventure to be refreshing.

And the atmosphere, aeathetics, visuals, etc would be beyond worth the tickets even if there was zero plot. I cared more about the characters than the plot, I really didn't care much about 90% of the plot, but that's kind of how comic books generally hit me too ...I read them for the visuals and the characters, and the plot is just a device to put them in situations, and the quality of dialog is almost always beside the point.

This movie is a trip. I'm tempted to go see it again.

  

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obsidianchrysalis
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Sat Jul-22-17 10:29 PM

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15. "Would you compare this to The Fifth Element?"
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From the comments you mentioned, Valerian sounds more like The Fifth Element than to modern-day comic-book flicks.

That would be alright since The Fifth Element was decent enough when it came out.

  

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Jon
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16. "Sort of but with some crucial differences:"
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Sun Jul-23-17 08:08 AM by Jon

          

It's definitely by far much more similar to Fifth Element than it would be to modern day comic movies. It's clear this is the same director.

But depending on what you want from a movie, you're not guaranteed to like one if you liked the other.

Fifth Element was much more about the story, had a plot that felt like the purpose of the movie, and had more compelling human characters and acting performances.

Valerian, on the other hand, most of the intriguing characters arent even human and play small roles, the human acting is mostly forgettable (although liked the leads more than most ppl did), and the plot seems like a complete and total afterthought.
... BUT, you'll see more imagination juice packed into any given 10 minutes of Valerian than the entirety of Fifth Element (which says a lot, bc Fifth Element was a trip)

For Fifth Element the story was the point.

For Valerian (like most comics) the plot is just a device so our heroes can get us lost in the jungle with all the tigers and bears and waterfalls.

It needs to be digested like a dream or an old school comic book than a traditional film.

  

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Frank Longo
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Mon Jul-24-17 03:25 PM

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17. "Really terrific... with the exception of DeHaan, who is miscast."
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If young Tom Cruise (or any number of young black actors ready for roles like this) played Valerian, it's an instant classic. No question.

Instead, it's an intriguing "what if," with tons of visual splendor, outstanding world-building, exciting action... and a lead who simply isn't right for the part.

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18. "Finally going to see it this week. "
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I feel like this is a reworking of the Fifth Element, which for me is the root of the visual aesthetic that is utilized by GOTG and Ragnarok, with new filmmaking technology. Its crazy that the Fifth Element is twenty years old...

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