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TheRealBillyOcean
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"The Birth of a Nation (Parker, 2016)"


          

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I loved it. A diff kind of slavery flick.

Not a big crowd.

Will def watch many more times.

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RE: The Birth of a Nation (Parker, 2016)
Oct 08th 2016
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Bruh, it's the first time I've seen a "slavery movie or tv show"...
Oct 08th 2016
2
      Right. I will go see it again. It's really amazing
Oct 09th 2016
11
           i'm going to see it again and i'll own a physical copy forever
Oct 09th 2016
12
Nate has torpedoed a LOT of good will towards this film
Oct 09th 2016
3
because of the past charge or has he been doing something currently?
Oct 09th 2016
4
      for me it's the current attitude towards what happened in the past
Oct 09th 2016
5
           RE: for me it's the current attitude towards what happened in the past
Oct 09th 2016
8
it's brilliant and i don't care about his rape charge or attitude
Oct 09th 2016
6
^^^^^^all of this
Oct 09th 2016
9
GREAT flick
Oct 09th 2016
10
Yup...
Oct 10th 2016
14
I'm glad I saw it
Oct 09th 2016
7
those saying this is a bad movie are full of shit and have agendas
Oct 10th 2016
13
no shit, dogg. but, i'm charging it to the game at this point.
Oct 10th 2016
15
Saw it with my wife last Friday & we thought it was great
Oct 10th 2016
16
saw it today... it was good....
Oct 10th 2016
17
Good, not great
Oct 11th 2016
18
Solid B
Oct 11th 2016
19
I'll echo the "good not great" sentiment in here.
Oct 11th 2016
20
We are pretty much on the same page
Oct 13th 2016
21
I *do* care about the Nate Parker allegations
Oct 14th 2016
22

Case_One
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1. "RE: The Birth of a Nation (Parker, 2016)"
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Went to the see the movie today and it was amazing and beautifully directed. It's very Prophetic for the current time that we live in and very thought provoking. I give it 4.75 of 5 Stars. It's a must see movie for anyone that wants to learn about the History that is Nat Turner, the struggle to be free from oppression, marginalization, injustice, inequality, and bondage.
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TheRealBillyOcean
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2. "Bruh, it's the first time I've seen a "slavery movie or tv show"..."
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and didn't feel totally horrible when I left. Or was I on some, "I wish a white muthafucka" would when I leave this theater.

I clapped. Got up. Nodded. And was happy with what I just watched.

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11. "Right. I will go see it again. It's really amazing "
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12. "i'm going to see it again and i'll own a physical copy forever"
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CherNic
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3. "Nate has torpedoed a LOT of good will towards this film"
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I mean completely destroyed it. I wont be surprised if it has a big opening weekend and won't be surprised if it's a dud.

  

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4. "because of the past charge or has he been doing something currently?"
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>I mean completely destroyed it. I wont be surprised if it has
>a big opening weekend and won't be surprised if it's a dud.

  

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CherNic
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5. "for me it's the current attitude towards what happened in the past"
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He's just come off as a huge asshole. And I'm pretty good about separating work from life but sheesh.

  

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8. "RE: for me it's the current attitude towards what happened in the past"
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>He's just come off as a huge asshole. And I'm pretty good
>about separating work from life but sheesh.

ah..Ive yet to really read or watch about him believe it or not so I cant call it but I trust you

what I have read about the incident was always just from an overview of what the controversy was but nothing from him besides his apologetic feelings etc

  

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Basaglia
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6. "it's brilliant and i don't care about his rape charge or attitude"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

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9. "^^^^^^all of this"
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10. "GREAT flick"
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14. "Yup..."
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7. "I'm glad I saw it"
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Almost didn't, it's not a perfect movie but it's an important movie which you should see

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13. "those saying this is a bad movie are full of shit and have agendas"
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I really enjoyed this film and it is a strong, yet imperfect, directorial debut from Parker. It may not be the Nat Turner movie for everyone, but it has passion, a good narrative, and connects. It's too bad the external baggage is going to drag this film.

  

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15. "no shit, dogg. but, i'm charging it to the game at this point. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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16. "Saw it with my wife last Friday & we thought it was great"
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Only 11 people in attendance, us included. Going to see it again with podcast folk

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17. "saw it today... it was good...."
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.... i agree that it's an important movie that people should come out and see....i didn't think it's a movie i'd ever really wanna see again, but i feel that way about most movies set in that time period....

i wondered about the truthfullness of the story (his master vs other masters) (the one crazy white dude always causing problems) (sweet old white woman), but i've learned not to really trust biopics.... the whole thing just makes me want to learn more about Turner....

....interestingly, i found myself thinking about Denmark Vessey the whole time too

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18. "Good, not great"
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Positives:
Well shot
Well acted
Hard hitting scenes of the brutality of slavery

Negatives:
A little too Hallmark cheesy when trying to humanize Turner
The revolution was unsatisfying short

Even if its not a classic its a very solid directorial debut and hopefully Parker can parley more work behind the camera

  

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19. "Solid B"
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what brings it down to a solid B: third act was abbreviated.
Also everyone seem to give performances at both extremes...either emoting greatly or very stoic. not much was in between

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20. "I'll echo the "good not great" sentiment in here."
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You can tell dude is (was?) going to be a hell of a filmmaker, but this one is definitely sloppy, with some major pacing issues.

That having been said, he's a terrific actor, much of the supporting cast is strong (shout out to my man Colman Domingo, who is great in *everything*), and there is some strong imagery sprinkled throughout. It's worth seeing.

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21. "We are pretty much on the same page"
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Good not great. Happy I saw it and that I saw it in Brooklyn with a bunch of Black folk reacting to the film in real time. One of my favorite moments was when a slave did something to fight back (I can't remember the exact action) and someone in the back of the theater did a light little clap on their own. Someone sitting in front of me said "Nah you right" and started a scattered applause throughout the audience. There were things I really liked about the movie. The love between Nat and his wife. That felt real to me. The reverence for the ancestors and the strength of the grandmother. All praise is due for keeping it together all those years. There were things that bothered me like the camera work during the Black angel scenes and the rushed beginning.

Like I said, good not great. Nice for his first time out as a director.

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22. "I *do* care about the Nate Parker allegations"
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and went into this with a more critical eye as a result, but the intensity of the best parts won me over. the loss of humanity for both slave-owner and slave is really well done -- without bondage, you can imagine Nat and Samuel becoming equal friends as men. instead, one turned into a torturer and the other forced into murder. I wish there was more about the loss of faith in God, as Christianity 's role on both sides of slavery is fascinating to me, but it was sort of skimmed over.

there are also first-feature flaws, mostly from an editing standpoint, although none too detrimental to the overall theme. the Braveheart ending with the cheap angel wings was kind of distracting, however.

I hate biopics in general, but Nat Turner is a person I never heard about in any public school course. this is an important movie that needs to be seen.

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