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Heinz
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"Crisis In Six Scenes (2016 Woody Allen via Amazon)"
Sat Oct-01-16 03:42 PM by Heinz

  

          

Anyone watch this yet? I'm very excited to watch this. Gonna take it in this weekend. The trailer looks really promising. Woody IMO just keeps getting better with age. Heard great things about Miley Cyrus in this show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1cV2zsIOj4

  

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it's okay
Oct 03rd 2016
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RE: Crisis In Six Scenes (2016 Woody Allen via Amazon)
Oct 04th 2016
2
Cafe Society was excellent to me.
Oct 04th 2016
5
      I'd say he's getting better as a director, but def not as a writer.
Oct 04th 2016
6
           K Stewart killed that movie, her role was so key and she was so awful...
Oct 07th 2016
7
                I have the polar opposite opinion. I thought she was outstanding.
Oct 08th 2016
8
                     she wasnt bad as folks say, she didnt K Stewart it
Oct 08th 2016
10
                     She looked like she was "acting" the entire time. One question for you:
Oct 23rd 2016
21
Woody Allen is a child molestor
Oct 04th 2016
3
Talking about Woody Allen the director.
Oct 04th 2016
4
      I'll do whatever tickles my goddamned fancy. Just like Woody Allen.
Oct 08th 2016
9
      So.
Oct 09th 2016
13
           Is this post about my disdain for Woody Allen being a child molester?
Oct 10th 2016
16
      thats not being a grown up...
Oct 08th 2016
11
           Yeah it is they are two entirely different things
Oct 09th 2016
12
                I gotta disagree with that one
Oct 09th 2016
14
                I think it's easy to see both sides.
Oct 10th 2016
15
                     I don't mind if someone is against his personal life choices BUT
Oct 11th 2016
17
                     agreed
Oct 11th 2016
18
Eh, didn't like it so much
Oct 18th 2016
19
yup
Oct 21st 2016
20

BigWorm
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1. "it's okay"
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Not his best, not his worse. It's more like a movie broken up into six parts than a show. As a show, the pacing is all off. I'm guessing if it was edited together into one long(ish) film it would play out better.

Miley is okay. Not entirely believable as an activist, but not horrible.

It's overall decent. My biggest problem is that Woody's stuttering neurotic antics is there, but it's not as funny, there aren't so many witty jokes to go along. He comes off more as a grumpy old man than a neurotic yet witty guy (as he used to be).

I'd say it's about as good as his last few comedies. But I think his comedies have gone down a few pegs since Deconstructing Harry (his last great film IMO).

  

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The Analyst
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2. "RE: Crisis In Six Scenes (2016 Woody Allen via Amazon)"
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>Woody IMO just keeps getting better with age.

You may be the only person alive who thinks this. And I consider myself a pretty big Allen fan...

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Heinz
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5. "Cafe Society was excellent to me."
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Frank Longo
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6. "I'd say he's getting better as a director, but def not as a writer."
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Cafe Society was among the most gorgeous movies he's ever made... but the writing was... fine. I'd say similar things about Irrational Man and Magic in the Moonlight. His composition, use of color, etc... all are better in the last few years than most of his films over the past 15-20 years.

But... yeah. Not in terms of writing. If I'm naming his top, say, 15 movies ever, only three of them would come from the last twenty years.

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theeraser
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7. "K Stewart killed that movie, her role was so key and she was so awful..."
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8. "I have the polar opposite opinion. I thought she was outstanding."
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Gave the best performance in the movie, imo.

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10. "she wasnt bad as folks say, she didnt K Stewart it"
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She really was acting imho..not doing her empty style


>Gave the best performance in the movie, imo.

  

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21. "She looked like she was "acting" the entire time. One question for you:"
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Initially she was not romantically interested in Jesse's character at all, he was firmly in the friend zone. Then through his assiduity he supposedly won her over. The entire movie -- Kristen's character's dilemma over whom to choose, and the poignance of her final encounter with Jesse's character -- depends on this.

But did you REALLY find her change convincing?

Woody didn't even TRY to dramatize it, must've known KS wasn't up to it. Amazingly, he just TOLD us it happened in a voice over, which accompanied a long-range shot of the two of them interacting. From that point on, I couldn't take the movie seriously.

  

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Cold Truth
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3. "Woody Allen is a child molestor"
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...just in case anyone is unaware 😃

  

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Heinz
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4. "Talking about Woody Allen the director."
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Be a grown up and learn how to separate art and the person.

*shrugs*

  

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Cold Truth
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9. "I'll do whatever tickles my goddamned fancy. Just like Woody Allen."
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Heinz
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13. "So."
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16. "Is this post about my disdain for Woody Allen being a child molester?"
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Because thus far that has generated more discussion than the movie made by Woody Allen, Child Molester.

Mainly because you decided to engage the point of the artist molesting and marrying his stepdaughter as well as molesting his own children, mind you.

If your intent was to redirect this thread from a discussion about a child molester who also makes movies, it backfired.

Considering that the story behind him being a creepy, incestuous child molester who also LOOKS THE FUCKING PART in a very unsettling way is well documented and uncomfortably detailed you should be able to just ignore my comment.

After all, you ignore the fact that he's a predator whose chosen prey are his own children. If you can ignore that but not my comment, well, that might say something about you.

  

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11. "thats not being a grown up..."
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>Be a grown up and learn how to separate art and the person.
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>*shrugs*


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Heinz
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12. "Yeah it is they are two entirely different things "
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Art is art. Art has nothing to do with the artistS personal lives. People choose to think otherwise which is why celeb gossip exists. That's childish shit.

  

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14. "I gotta disagree with that one"
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The moral choice to not support an artist based on their personal lives is very much an "adult" thing. This is why I stay away from Roman Polanski films. And why I'm so conflicted on still watching Woody Allen's movies.

This is way beyond the subject though. I think with you being such a big Woody Allen fan, you will like the "show" (in quotes because it really doesn't play out like a TV show). The last ep is especially fun. Overall it's mediocre Woody Allen material, but that's still pretty good. It's Woody mostly staying in his lane. As I might have said, this will be much better if he edits it together into one longish movie.

  

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15. "I think it's easy to see both sides."
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I have no trouble separating art from artist, but I don't begrudge anyone their opinion if they either don't want to support someone they despise or find the work to be tainted by the outside knowledge of the artist. And as a massive fan of Woody, a couple of his films *do* unquestionably contain ghosts of his real-life scandals that have on occasion made me squirm.

So I don't mind when people say they choose not to support him. I do continue to enjoy his art, but I get why people wouldn't.

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17. "I don't mind if someone is against his personal life choices BUT "
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This post was about his art. NOT what he has done in his life. So I definitely hate when people try to bring it up when the OG post is not even about it. Its a moot point when talking about his art.

We can go back and forth on about everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I do not have to accept that talking about something that has nothing to do with his art. Im not disagreeing with the reason to hate him as a man at all...but I wasnt talking about them in the first place.

  

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18. "agreed"
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I've never been a Woody Allen fan or checked his work because of the controversy, but I understand people who can and can't separate the work from the person....sorta LOL....in some cases the person is so deplorable to you that you simply can't....I think it all centers on how each person feels about the subject matter in controversy....

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19. "Eh, didn't like it so much"
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It was essentially a long and extremely slight movie. Didn't care for many of the performances; Elaine May was particularly bad, and all of the "guest" actors not named Max Casella were sleep-walking. The scene near the end where everything comes together is mildly enjoyable, but the rest of it is lightweight as all get out.

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20. "yup"
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Except for that big scene in the last episode it was very much mediocre Woody.

I wouldn't expect him to make another truly hilarious movie unless he co-wrote it with someone else, which I doubt he'd ever do.

  

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