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Frank Longo
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"Split (Shyamalan, 2017)"


  

          

THE GOD IS BACK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHnKnVUySJU

With the cinematographer from It Follows and the star of The Witch. GOOD.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Meh. Although nice showcase for McAvoy
Jul 27th 2016
1
Ah fuck i dunno about this. I know a guy named "I Am The Beast"
Jul 28th 2016
2
I'm anticipating a lot of friend requests for Night Dogg after this.
Jul 30th 2016
3
I anticipate a lot of dumb, insufferable and reductionist agenda bullshi...
Jul 31st 2016
4
you're both right.
Aug 01st 2016
5
http://busymoms.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/maxresdefault.jpg
Dec 26th 2017
133
Trailer made me laugh
Aug 01st 2016
12
MMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM!
Nov 17th 2016
13
Still not sure what Nolan or Tarantino has to do with MNS
Nov 17th 2016
14
      don't worry about it.
Nov 17th 2016
15
           Nobody is worried about it... except you.
Nov 22nd 2016
17
bzzzzzzzzzzzz.....bzzzzzzzzzzz
Nov 22nd 2016
16
The poster in the theaters is GREAT.
Nov 24th 2016
23
Like a Manhattan escort during happy hour on a friday...81% freshness
Nov 25th 2016
26
Looking forward to this.
Nov 25th 2016
27
You BETTER keep plugging The Leftovers!
Jan 19th 2017
30
M. Night back.
Jan 16th 2017
28
The Genius set to be #1
Jan 19th 2017
29
unrelated:
Jan 19th 2017
31
Easily his best since SIGNS. Great acting, gorgeously framed.
Jan 20th 2017
32
Finally. Night is back in form.
Jan 20th 2017
33
Once again, Night Dogg pushes the tone of a film to the brink
Jan 20th 2017
34
On pace for huge opening...Killing Diesel Dogg. Oh well
Jan 21st 2017
35
Hopefully Vin does big international numbers.
Jan 21st 2017
36
This was my group's free one in the buy 1, get 1 free
Jan 21st 2017
37
I'm glad Shyamalan is back on the map
Jan 22nd 2017
38
He's a genius, simple and plain...SPOILERS
Jan 22nd 2017
39
completely agreed.
Feb 13th 2017
109
he killing it...
Jan 22nd 2017
40
A ranking...
Jan 22nd 2017
41
Hey trolls, shut the fuck up please
Jan 22nd 2017
42
Reply #32.
Jan 22nd 2017
43
worth watching for him alone.
Feb 13th 2017
110
I'm not too big on M. Night and he killed this
Jan 22nd 2017
45
Tarantino speaking on Unbreakable
Jan 22nd 2017
44
yo, shouts to you for liking a bunch of shitty movies
Jan 23rd 2017
46
look, you wanna talk about taratino's take on Unbreakable or not?
Jan 23rd 2017
47
      You could have just posted about it without the agendabot bullshit
Jan 23rd 2017
48
           So, I guess you don't wanna discuss Tarantino's thoughts either?
Jan 23rd 2017
49
           He got shit on for shitty movies. He'll get praise for good movies.
Jan 23rd 2017
51
                i disagreed that the happening was bad...sorry it made you mad.
Jan 23rd 2017
56
                     signs and the village were only mildly shit on upon release
Jan 23rd 2017
57
                          Signs made over $200 million
Jan 23rd 2017
58
                          ok, so Signs was the movie that made people stop going.
Jan 24th 2017
61
                               I felt like I was in the minority at the time.
Jan 24th 2017
62
                               No...That is just false. The reviews were mostly positive and it made $$...
Jan 24th 2017
64
                                    sure, nobody thought when Signs came out
Jan 24th 2017
65
                                         as i've said before, they didn't fuckin care when spielberg did it
Jan 24th 2017
70
                                              Stupidity vs. Ignorance
Jan 24th 2017
73
                                              no, they wouldn't have. people ain't care 'cause it's spielberg, imo
Jan 25th 2017
77
                                              I'm sure there will be a day
Jan 24th 2017
74
                          see what i mean?
Jan 23rd 2017
59
                               or, the movies weren't good.
Jan 24th 2017
60
                                    lotta folks make shitty movies, even consecutively....like Tim Burton
Jan 24th 2017
63
                                         I'm sure there are people who care about Tim Burton films
Jan 24th 2017
66
                                         To be fair, you also don't see people hyping them.
Jan 24th 2017
67
                                              respectfully...FUCK OUTTA HERE....I hyped in response to pile-ons
Jan 24th 2017
69
                                                   False. You hype because that's your gimmick.
Jan 24th 2017
71
                                                        i explained why nolan's overrated...you chose not to respond.
Jan 24th 2017
72
                                                             You know I'm not a Nolan fanboy right?
Jan 24th 2017
75
                                                                  I don't care. Do you want to discuss it or not?
Jan 25th 2017
76
                                                                       Happy to. Share your thoughts.
Jan 25th 2017
78
                                                                            RE: Happy to. Share your thoughts.
Jan 25th 2017
79
                                                                                 I disagree with much of that except for scoring and muscularity.
Jan 25th 2017
80
                                                                                 RE: I disagree with much of that except for scoring and muscularity.
Jan 25th 2017
81
           That's not what I squash, and you know it.
Jan 23rd 2017
52
                Nah. It aint just the MKS shit and others have called it out over the ye...
Jan 23rd 2017
53
                Okay, dude.
Jan 23rd 2017
55
                     I think you took my comment a little more seriously than intended
Jan 24th 2017
68
                it's almost like people don't like having their faves shit on *shrug*
Jan 23rd 2017
54
damn
Jan 23rd 2017
50
So consensus is M Night has 2 great movies
Jan 25th 2017
82
i'd say that's fair.
Jan 25th 2017
83
can we take a moment to appreciate jessica sula?!
Jan 26th 2017
84
Trini! I am now fully in support of this movie and renounce all
Jan 26th 2017
85
We can all agree here, I'm sure.
Jan 27th 2017
86
All three girls were hot as fuck b
Jan 27th 2017
87
And... Yep.
Jan 27th 2017
89
Yep.
Jan 27th 2017
88
I was like, "Oh, hello back there."
Jan 28th 2017
90
She's ok I guess
Jan 30th 2017
92
Night Dogg still dominating box office...#1 again
Jan 29th 2017
91
*yawn*
Feb 03rd 2017
93
RE: *yawn*
Feb 03rd 2017
94
So this trilogy up there with the best in the "superhero genre"?
Feb 03rd 2017
95
LOL it's only been two movies
Feb 05th 2017
97
      I meant to say is this trilogy going down that road?
Feb 05th 2017
98
           I mean he's gotta
Feb 05th 2017
99
                he says he's already done with the outline
Feb 06th 2017
107
THREE-PEAT!!!! HE DID IT AGAIN!!! What a legend!
Feb 05th 2017
96
Since The Devil's Advocate.
Feb 06th 2017
100
Great movie, really digging the Blumhouse/Shyamalan collab
Feb 06th 2017
101
Excellent return to form.
Feb 06th 2017
102
Regarding the preference for teenage girls...
Feb 06th 2017
103
Yeah I got the predilections of Dennis and all but....
Feb 06th 2017
106
      RE: Yeah I got the predilections of Dennis and all but....
Feb 06th 2017
108
RE: Excellent return to form.
Feb 06th 2017
104
      Blech. Why even respond at all?
Feb 06th 2017
105
What was the deal with the blurry focus?
Mar 02nd 2017
111
man that was good
Apr 27th 2017
112
This was great
Apr 30th 2017
113
I inly watched this because i just heard about the spoiler
May 01st 2017
114
I just caught this on HBO
Oct 28th 2017
115
I liked it, but
Oct 31st 2017
116
Yeah. I feel you
Oct 31st 2017
117
Finally saw it. This is Exactly where I'm at
Dec 17th 2017
129
i never posted about seeing this but it was dope af.
Oct 31st 2017
118
pretty twisted... i enjoyed it... I can't be the only one who
Oct 31st 2017
119
RE: pretty twisted... i enjoyed it... I can't be the only one who
Oct 31st 2017
120
a lot of people made the same comparison. hard not to.
Nov 01st 2017
121
This was good AF for 75% of the film
Dec 09th 2017
122
Wish i had seen it before the reveal leaked online
Dec 09th 2017
123
      yep, that ending twist is basically the whole movie
Dec 12th 2017
124
           I spent the whole movie wondering how the dots would connect
Dec 12th 2017
125
           teen girls don't outwit and survive a highly intelligent super villain
Dec 13th 2017
126
                yeah, I understood it. I just thought it was stupid.
Dec 13th 2017
127
                It's a stupid played out trope of victims you idiot
Dec 17th 2017
128
                     Thing is, it's not.
Dec 18th 2017
130
                          he got it all figured out. let him run with his wrongness.
Dec 19th 2017
131
                          lol. says the goofy old muthafucka who
Dec 27th 2017
136
                          lol. patriarchy is powerful thing.
Dec 27th 2017
135
                               Like, do you want to actually discuss this?
Dec 27th 2017
                               double post n/m
Dec 27th 2017
137
Night Dogg! You did it! You finally made a good movie again!
Dec 26th 2017
132
He killed it with The Visit too...
Dec 26th 2017
134

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1. "Meh. Although nice showcase for McAvoy"
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Feels a little late after Room and 10 Cloverfield Lane. A rental, at best IMO. Would be surprised if this did numbers; might depend on the release date.

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Cold Truth
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2. "Ah fuck i dunno about this. I know a guy named "I Am The Beast""
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Legal name, actually. He's fucking insane.

This kinda freaked me out on a personal level lol

  

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Basaglia
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3. "I'm anticipating a lot of friend requests for Night Dogg after this. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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Cold Truth
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4. "I anticipate a lot of dumb, insufferable and reductionist agenda bullshi..."
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Instead of conversation about the actual movie.

  

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5. "you're both right."
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133. "http://busymoms.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/maxresdefault.jpg"
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http://busymoms.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/maxresdefault.jpg

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12. "Trailer made me laugh"
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Not sure it was supposed to. SKEPTICAL!

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Basaglia
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13. "MMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM!"
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Getting great buzz...

http://variety.com/2016/film/reviews/split-review-m-night-shyamalan-1201918995/

Night Dogg has given McAvoy, best known for his role as a bald ass mind-reader in silly children's films, "the role of his career."

Powerful.


Meanwhile Nolan has been lazily riding the comic book gravy train and only recently took a break from that to mine WWII for a quick blowy from critics and film fans who'll act like they've never seen low sat washed out horseshit with stupid shots of grains of dirt exploding everywhere and blood hitting the lens during battle scenes.

And Tarantanko is probably somewhere polishing off scripts where gays and women violently get revenge.

Night Dogg continues to explore the boundaries of the human experience in earnest, unlike some cynical, creatively-constipated, money-grabbing cowards.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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Cold Truth
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14. "Still not sure what Nolan or Tarantino has to do with MNS"
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Thu Nov-17-16 10:34 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

When MNS starts creating better movies, he'll get better responses to his movies.

Simple.

At any rate this one looks good so far and I'll see it in the theater unless reviews are bad.

That's the problem with apologists, you people are always so insecure about your "guy" that you can never deal with criticism of your guy without throwing out "squirrel!" and pointing to someone else.

  

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15. "don't worry about it. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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Cold Truth
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17. "Nobody is worried about it... except you."
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16. "bzzzzzzzzzzzz.....bzzzzzzzzzzz"
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http://movieweb.com/split-movie-review-2016-m-night-shyamalan/


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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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23. "The poster in the theaters is GREAT."
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One of the better posters in the last couple of years.

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Basaglia
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26. "Like a Manhattan escort during happy hour on a friday...81% freshness"
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GENIUS!!!!!

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/split_2017/


https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/sep/27/split-review-james-mcavoy-m-night-shyamalan-fantastic-fest-austin


http://www.avclub.com/article/james-mcavoy-and-m-night-shyamalan-crash-fantastic-243225

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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27. "Looking forward to this. "
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I dug Devil and LOVED The Visit. Maybe Shyamalan needed to get back to basics after the years of criticism, but if he keeps making movies like The Visit I'm all in.

Similar to Damon Lindelof's criticism following Lost and his subsequent revival with The Leftovers (yes, I'm going to keep plugging The Leftovers until the final season comes out).

  

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30. "You BETTER keep plugging The Leftovers!"
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I can't wait.

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28. "M. Night back."
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McAvoy kills it. As does the psychologist lady.

I would have liked to see a bit more of his different personalities and how they conflict, but overall very tight.


As for the inevitable twist? It's solid. I won't say anything more. Just stay off the Wikipedia page.

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Basaglia
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29. "The Genius set to be #1"
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/split_2017/

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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31. "unrelated:"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13112682&mesg_id=13112682&page=

mistermaxxx is going OFF.

  

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Frank Longo
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32. "Easily his best since SIGNS. Great acting, gorgeously framed."
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Trajectory definitely pointing upward after The Visit.

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33. "Finally. Night is back in form."
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Basaglia
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34. "Once again, Night Dogg pushes the tone of a film to the brink"
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he's been unable to keep it from falling apart a few times, which have been well-addressed, but when he hits the mark...genius.

pace
dialogue
wit
visuals
got the most out of each actor

and the end...so good.

best comic book movie of the last 5 years.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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Basaglia
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35. "On pace for huge opening...Killing Diesel Dogg. Oh well"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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Frank Longo
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36. "Hopefully Vin does big international numbers."
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Cuz that movie was good too.

Still, glad to see this movie will be a hit. It deserves it.

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37. "This was my group's free one in the buy 1, get 1 free"
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NNNNNNIIIIGGGGHAAAAA!!!!

M. Night's gotta follow through on what that twist promised right?

Walking out of the theatre, we totally forgot we saw xXx. M. Night came through band crushed the buildings.

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38. "I'm glad Shyamalan is back on the map"
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I'm not going to see this because I already have enough of a problem sleeping and seeing this is likely to cause me to not sleep for a couple of days. j/k It would be at least a week.

But it looks suspenseful and tense.

He got out of his element there for a while, making The Lady in the Water, The Last Airbender and After Earth. Suspense is his bread and butter and while I appreciate that he broadened his craft, there's nothing wrong with being great in one area of filmmaking. I would think most directors would give up quite a bit to have his track record, duds none withstanding.

I dig his style and some critics dismiss him as 'the twist director', but it does work and there something to be said for good genre filmmaking. He hits all of the right notes but directing the story in a fresh and compelling way, which based on everyone's review seems to be the case in this new flick.

  

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39. "He's a genius, simple and plain...SPOILERS"
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still processing how much balls it takes to go out and create YOUR OWN comicbook universe right in the middle of the DC/Marvel war. and this shit is better than EVERY DC comicbook movie ever made and the best comicbook movie of the last 5 years at least.

why?

it's like standstill dunks and breakaway runs on video games. what the fuck am i talking about? lemme explain. when i was a kid, all the sports video games where just rife with unrealistic trash. shaq could be right underneath the damn basket and would shoot a weird fade away layup. there were no standstill dunks until 2000 when the first 2k dropped on dreamcast. in madden, the fastest muhfuckas in the world where getting caught from behind...just walked down. from joey galloway to bo jackson to randy moss...walked down in the open field. BULLSHIT.

and that's how i feel when i watch comicbook movies. nothing feels "REAL". i wanna see these people doing the most mundane shit possible, so that when it becomes time to be SUPERHUMAN, i have seen the human part before i see the super. ironman comes closest to this, which is why it changed the game, but it STILL feels cartoonish. it's warped somehow. whether it's the acting, the set design, the effects...it's too big and it begins to lose its integrity.

what Night Dogg has been able to do in Unbreakable and now Split is create superheroes and supervillains in the most hyper-realistic universe you'll ever see on film. they EAT FUCKIN FOOD, they hunch their shoulders when they walk, they genuinely cry...and they do it without being prompted by MUSIC, so it feels authentic and the loniless and despair just leaps of the screen...it's the most detailed shit i've ever seen in film, given the genre. that's why they get called -suspense-thrillers, when they are, in fact, comicbook movies. people don't know what to make of them, because the dude absolutely refuses to coddle audiences and let them off the hook with "Oh, nothing going to really happen to these kidnapped girls...this is just a comicbook movie...winkwink"...nah, these bitches gon get eaten alive by a fuckin supervillain and it's gon look real and it's gon be tragic. it's not gon be ben kingsley in a cave twisting his fuckin mustachio and taunting ironman and we all watch that bullshit like suckers waiting for our dogg tony stark to...Dun Da Da Dah...save the day...NOPE. that is easy and been done do death. it's so formulaic and insulting i can't take them shits seriously after seeing split.

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109. "completely agreed."
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I appreciate the Marvel films as spectacles and events, but if you've seen one you've seen them all. and I'm never compelled to see any of them again.

Marvel/DC try and plaster "real life" over the implausibility of their movies, but it comes off as convincing as a video game cinematic. Shyamalan has made a superhero universe with real people.

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40. "he killing it..."
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2xIw2jXcAAJhlD.jpg:large

20 years of foreshadowing.

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41. "A ranking..."
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by Tom Philip for GQ Magazine

http://www.gq.com/story/we-ranked-every-m-night-shyamalan-movie

  

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42. "Hey trolls, shut the fuck up please"
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Anyone reasonable got a real review?

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43. "Reply #32."
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Nothing I said there is unreasonable.

I think it's a real return to form for M. Night. Showcases his brilliant framing of shots and sense of timing, the things that made him a star way back when. James McAvoy, who I normally am indifferent toward, is brilliant-- period. A knockout of a performance. If this had come out in 2016, it'd genuinely be in my Top 5 performances of the year.

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110. "worth watching for him alone."
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>James McAvoy, who I
>normally am indifferent toward, is brilliant-- period. A
>knockout of a performance. If this had come out in 2016, it'd
>genuinely be in my Top 5 performances of the year.

I too think McAvoy is either hammy or a bit of a dick in most of his performances. here it works perfectly.

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45. "I'm not too big on M. Night and he killed this"
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Without spoiling it like some people are, if you like his earlier films, mos def go see this.

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44. "Tarantino speaking on Unbreakable"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjhHjhyv6sw

a fraud-genius giving props to true original genius.

and y'all can whine about some fuckin trolling all you want, because i had to watch them night dogg pile-ons for YEARS and i ain't say shit but "wait til it's my turn"

*shrug*

it's just my turn. my dude getting ALL THE CREDIT. all of it.

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46. "yo, shouts to you for liking a bunch of shitty movies"
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I don't know why you should get credit for that but it's a thing you want and here you go.

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47. "look, you wanna talk about taratino's take on Unbreakable or not?"
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cause i just offer up a COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED "you just mad" and move right along.

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48. "You could have just posted about it without the agendabot bullshit"
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And a perfectly fine discussion could have been had.

Since you went the agendabot route you're getting exactly the sort of discussion you were going for.

Of course, that is, until your good buddy Frank comes in and squashes it on your behalf as he pretends like you don’t go out of your way to turn everything MKS, Nolan, or Tarantino discussion into some antagonistic agenda bullshit and you’re not just reaping what you sew.

  

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49. "So, I guess you don't wanna discuss Tarantino's thoughts either?"
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Only reaping going on right now ain't being done by me. It was all good just a few pile-ons ago.


*shrug*

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51. "He got shit on for shitty movies. He'll get praise for good movies. "
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You being all up in arms because the rest of us weren't sucking his dick right along with you through a stretch of truly bad movies and trying to party when he finally puts out a pair of winners as though that undoes the trash ass run from LITW-AE is hilarious.

So, yeah, the reason why nobody is trying to have any kind of reasonable discussion with you on the subject is the fact that you've spent years positioning yourself as his Katrina Pierson, complete with acting like a victim for being a champion of dogshit.

  

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56. "i disagreed that the happening was bad...sorry it made you mad."
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i already disagreed with the movement to go back and force feed people with the idea that signs and the village were bad, when they weren't shit on at the time. after lady in the water, which was bad, people started going back and trying to say most of his shit was terrible and that simpy wasn't true. sorry if you think that's dicksucking.

i personally think cysing blond ninjas and ignoring mark-missing garbage like deathproof is dicksucking.

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57. "signs and the village were only mildly shit on upon release"
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because most people skipped them in the theater.


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58. "Signs made over $200 million"
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It was the sixth highest grossing movie of 2002. And 2nd in terms of original movies (behind My Big Fat Greek Wedding.)

I think Signs' initial response was buoyed by the goodwill of the previous two films but as time passed, the disappointing (to many) second half of the film, "swing away", and the nonsense of aliens being naked on a planet where they were allergic to the majority of the planet and part of the atmosphere overwhelmed the positives. (Personally, I still think the first half of the film is pretty great but I hate the second half.)

The Village is when the haters started to emerge and Night responded by clashing with Disney, getting a big head, and delivering the hater party-starting Lady in the Water.

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61. "ok, so Signs was the movie that made people stop going."
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the idea that it was only disliked in retrospect is convenient, but not accurate.

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62. "I felt like I was in the minority at the time."
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Now people are more reticent to defend Night but the film still has more fans than I think it deserves. But, at the time, I'd say a majority of people were defending it. Ebert loved it and it got a B Cinemascore which isn't bad.

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64. "No...That is just false. The reviews were mostly positive and it made $$..."
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The Village is when things started to turn. Only someone with an agenda wants to believe that things took a turn with Signs.

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65. "sure, nobody thought when Signs came out"
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that aliens who can't survive water coming to a planet covered in water was a stupid plot point.


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70. "as i've said before, they didn't fuckin care when spielberg did it"
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and then you have idiots tryna split hairs talmbout, "well there's a difference between alens being unaware that BACTERIA that could harm them existed in the earth's water/atmosphere and the aliens just being deathly allergic TO THE CHEMICAL COMPOUND WATER, WHICH IS MADE OF HYDROGEN and OXYGEN, TWO OF THE TOP 3 MOST ABUNDANT ELEMENTS IN THE FUCKING UNIVERSE."

so, rather than inferring that night dogg's aliens were poisoned by the bacteria in the water...i mean, there's "WATER" in the fucking air...all of you pressed ass non-critical thinkers kept repeating the same lame ass "ALLERGIC to water" lie. the alien wasn't allergic to the water...it was fucking burned by it. it was TAP water. there weren't alens dying en masse in the earth's oceans. it was ONE goddamn alien that was left behind after the rest of them fucking dipped out. but y'all too damn goofy and pressed to take the time to THINK about it.

this is why i love baiting y'all into this agenda shit. i honestly don't feel the vast majority of you have real opinions on most of the shit i harp on around here. you just repeat shit you hear and read. night dogg is one of the best filmmakers out there and actual film films understand that. most of y'all just moviegoers and need to be coddled by morgan freeman's annoying ass VO explaining that aliens were allergic to bacteria and not "water"

and war of the worlds was fucking TRASH compared to signs.

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73. "Stupidity vs. Ignorance"
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Pretty sure Signs showed that the aliens didn't go anywhere near the coasts/oceans and also that Mel's area was in the middle of a drought. It's set up that not only are the aliens allergic to water (or something in the water) but they KNOW they are allergic to it but they still waltz around nekkid.

In War of the Worlds, which is a wildly anti-climatic ending, the aliens didn't know that they were allergic to anything. The book explains the aliens were "slain, after all man's devices had failed, by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth."

It's still a crappy ending (deus ex aer, if you will) but it was straight from the book, which is why Spielberg doesn't get as much shit for it. If Spielberg had developed a reputation for big twists and then his twist was that microbes killed the aliens, people would have been more upset.

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77. "no, they wouldn't have. people ain't care 'cause it's spielberg, imo"
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sorry, we just not gonna agree.

people ain't care cotillard bond-villain talked with a nuclear bomb counting down in the back of a truck for 5 minutes and the bomb had like 2 minutes to go. people ain't care when said bomb exploded less than a couple miles off the coastline and everything was all good. i do not forgive stuff like that, but PEOPLE do. when it's Night Dogg, everything in the film is up for debate. everything. it's exhausting.

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74. "I'm sure there will be a day"
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when I want to read a breakdown of signs vs. war of the worlds

and I won't come back to this thread, but I hope writing that exorcised some demons for you.

I'm just reminded of one film that bored me and one that I barely watched.

shouts to you

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59. "see what i mean? "
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=village.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=signs.htm

people "skipped" them tho.

here's the thing: maybe a lot of y'all don't have REAL opinions on Night Dogg and you are, IN FACT, just midlessly piling-on, because that's what i've thought for a long ass time, just by reading what y'all say about his work.

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60. "or, the movies weren't good."
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63. "lotta folks make shitty movies, even consecutively....like Tim Burton"
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And I don't ever see those pile-ons when his latest piece of shit is released

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66. "I'm sure there are people who care about Tim Burton films"
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or what you think of them.

one day when you find those people it will be...whatever it is.


This is not that day.

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67. "To be fair, you also don't see people hyping them."
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Did Miss Peregrine even get a post? Does anyone rep Burton on here?

Meanwhile, every Night film is kicked off with stuff like, "LMAO!!!! GENIUS!!!! Y'ALL SCARED!!!! 250 MIL....BOOK IT!!!!"

You've made Night an agenda; you gotta expect the shitstorm that comes with that.

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69. "respectfully...FUCK OUTTA HERE....I hyped in response to pile-ons"
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71. "False. You hype because that's your gimmick. "
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You have very little in the way of creative insight or, at a minimum, either no ability or desire for an actual conversation so you fall back on the gimmick.

  

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72. "i explained why nolan's overrated...you chose not to respond. "
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so, that's false. if you wanna discuss my reasons for thinking he's overrated, i'd be more than happy.

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75. "You know I'm not a Nolan fanboy right? "
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Or a Tarantino fanboy.

Or Shyamalan.

That's something you don't seem to grasp.

You're a superstan though, the kind I guy who picks someone and pretends that person is god made flesh.

Further, I know from personal experience you throw tantrums whenever I've presented a sound argument that goes against the grain of one of your idols.

  

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76. "I don't care. Do you want to discuss it or not?"
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78. "Happy to. Share your thoughts."
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79. "RE: Happy to. Share your thoughts."
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from previous post you ignored...

"Nolan's films are fucking STERILE, soulless, muscular spectacles that bombard the senses with massive scores and clunky ass visuals"

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Cold Truth
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80. "I disagree with much of that except for scoring and muscularity. "
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The score from TDK was a watershed moment IMO. The score from Interstellar is a nuisance of bombast that, imo, exemplifies the absolute worst trends in cinematic audio.

All in all I think he makes consistently enjoyable movies where the whole is greater than the sum of individual parts.
I loved Inception personally though it leaned heavily on absurd concept that was never adequately articulated IMO. He benefits greatly from quality casting and engaging visuals.

I don’t see sterility or lack of soul in his movies. In fact he’s done a remarkable job of injecting soul and grit into flawed concepts.

Interstellar gets by primarily on emotional gravity even if the ultimate message of “love” proved generic and trite. Inception leaned heavily on an emotional center of profound loss and gave us an ending worth discussing.

The Dark Knight toyed with those elements to minimal affect but found it’s soul in chaos anchored by an incredibly inspired casting choice, which is no small feat.

Clunky visuals? I don’t see that at all. Quite the opposite in fact.
Nolan tends to create a complete experience even in the face of glaring flaws.

He casts well, his actors exhibit strong character work, and he pulls emotional strings with a deft hand. He lacks that light touch with his audio/visual choices, but his movies are hardly limited to assaults on our audible/visual senses.

  

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81. "RE: I disagree with much of that except for scoring and muscularity. "
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>The score from TDK was a watershed moment IMO. The score from
>Interstellar is a nuisance of bombast that, imo, exemplifies
>the absolute worst trends in cinematic audio.

Dark Night is one movie. And it's overrated. Ledger was good, but that movie took on a whole other life when he died.

>All in all I think he makes consistently enjoyable movies
>where the whole is greater than the sum of individual parts.
>I loved Inception personally though it leaned heavily on
>absurd concept that was never adequately articulated IMO. He
>benefits greatly from quality casting and engaging visuals.

Actually, Inception's concept was overly-articulated by Ellen Page's completely unnecessary character. And the visuals in that film were inelegant, trippy garbage. And, again, a big loud ass score.


>I don’t see sterility or lack of soul in his movies. In fact
>he’s done a remarkable job of injecting soul and grit into
>flawed concepts.

There is a lack of soul. There's no grace in the camerawork. It chases dialouge and action, instead of properly framing it. There isn't ONE character worth loving in a Nolan film. Not one. Because he drowns them in the frame. The just talk and talk and talk to advance his gimmicky non-linear BS.


>Interstellar gets by primarily on emotional gravity even if
>the ultimate message of “love” proved generic and trite.
>Inception leaned heavily on an emotional center of profound
>loss and gave us an ending worth discussing.

Interstellar, like most of his films, got by on spectacle. The ending was ridiculous and corny. It was Contact.


>The Dark Knight toyed with those elements to minimal affect
>but found it’s soul in chaos anchored by an incredibly
>inspired casting choice, which is no small feat.
>
>Clunky visuals? I don’t see that at all. Quite the opposite
>in fact.
>Nolan tends to create a complete experience even in the face
>of glaring flaws.

That's it right there...an "experience" of sight and sound. The characters and the story are just there to serve his technical pursuits. He talked more about some damn IMAX cameras than he did about the story and characters during his Batman run. That's all I needed to know about him right there.


>He casts well, his actors exhibit strong character work, and
>he pulls emotional strings with a deft hand.

"You infected my mind"...that's deft? He managed to make Cotillard sound like a bimbo.


He lacks that
>light touch with his audio/visual choices, but his movies are
>hardly limited to assaults on our audible/visual senses.

He doesn't have any touch. He's the Jeff George of directing. He's got a big tool and he just wants to show it off.

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52. "That's not what I squash, and you know it. "
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I left you the last word on both of the above exchanges, in fact.

What I squash is a non-stop stream of back-and-forth bullshit. That's what I don't want. It's unreadable. It's horseshit. It's just namecalling garbage. You wanna namecall with him? Take that shit to inbox.

I've had people shit on my taste for not liking movies they loved and vice versa. I get mad, but I eventually walk away-- or try to keep every conversation about the movie, even if I felt personally patronized or attacked. Because an endless stream of "you're an idiot" replies just isn't interesting to read. At all. And it certainly doesn't promote conversation.

Ba likes M. Night. He draws comparisons to other filmmakers and says M. Night is better. That's fine. If you want to reply and tell him you think he's wrong for reasons x, y, and z, that's fine too. And if neither of you can reach common ground or promote a decent discussion with the other, both of you are free to walk away at any time, or to take it to Twitter/inbox/etc. But once that back-and-forth namecall, never-ending sea-of-replies horseshit starts, you're goddamn right I'll just cut it all out. The posts, even the ones for movies I hated, deserve better than that.

And that has nothing to do with him being my "buddy." Exhibits 1-462: other posts between two people I don't even know where I've done the exact same fucking thing.

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53. "Nah. It aint just the MKS shit and others have called it out over the ye..."
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You definitely have a particular affinity for Basa and I'm not the only one who's noticed.

He goes out of his way to create those chaotic exchanges in all of the few subjects he posts about with minimal exception.

You never seem all that bothered with his incessant trolling on every topic because that certainly doesn't promote healthy discussion and you certainly don't want to see him take his medicine.

If you didn't want those things to happen you'd pull your boy aside and tell him to, like, you know, stop doing that.

Your general bias for him isn't the end of the world... But it still exists.

  

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55. "Okay, dude."
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We've met. You know I'm a good guy and you know I mean well. I don't know why this one guy has you so hot under the collar.

As long as he's not calling out people in particular, I don't care if he plays that Armond White "Better Than" game. As I've repeatedly said, it's the needless back-and-forths that are exclusively personal that get deleted. If you want to make a Shyamalan vs. Tarantino post, you can do it too.

I won't name them, because I don't want to invite them out of the woodwork, but I've had pairs that have needed separation on this board before because they were fucking up posts. I've had to send inboxes to people to chill. I've had to delete plenty of shitty reply chains that are about nothing but personal clashes.

Ba rarely posts in PTP anymore. And the only time he ever gets into it with anyone here is over Shyamalan. And really, the only person he gets into it with over Shyamalan is you. If you wanna talk his Sports behavior, I don't moderate there, and I've disagreed plenty with things he's said and posted there. I've disagreed with it on the board, and I've told him via text that he's wrong on things. He'll tell you this. (I mean, you've likely seen literally every Lakers post he makes, in which I constantly disagree with everything he says other than Ingram being good.)

But yes, I know him outside of OKP. That's true. We're the two Duke fans on Sports, and people have said "Longo is gay for Ba teehee!" when I agree with him because there's nothing more clever for them to say. And they'll selectively ignore that I treat him the same as everyone else.

Anyhow. This will be deleted soon too, because it's really really dumb that I have to keep spelling this out, and I don't even know what the hell MKS means, lol. But you've met me and know that I'm not an idiot, nor is there some Vast Message Board Conspiracy To Make Certain Posters Pass Optics Tests. I just don't want personal back-and-forth shit ruining posts. Take it to inbox, or leave it alone. That's it.

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68. "I think you took my comment a little more seriously than intended"
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>We've met. You know I'm a good guy and you know I mean well.
>I don't know why this one guy has you so hot under the collar.

The only reason I decided not to let up on his wack ass Night posts was his bitchass ego tantrum when I, again, had a perfectly reasonable and well thought out reply that he couldn’t really disagree with.

Cool.

>But you've met me and
>know that I'm not an idiot, nor is there some Vast Message
>Board Conspiracy To Make Certain Posters Pass Optics Tests.

I have no idea what you’re talking about here. I just said you have a bias toward Basa, not that there’s some deeper current or anything. I don’t even the correlation. Shit the first comment was mostly ball breaking about your off board relationship- of which I don’t know the extent- and you just happened to bite much, much harder on it than anticipated and I expanded a little.

Still, I said it’s not the end of the world.

I.E, it’s no big deal. I’m not ranting and raving about unfairness of your moderating in every post. I don’t feel oppressed. In fact I think I’ve only made that reference one other time. I do think you’re a little light on Basa in PTP because very little of what he does is productive or designed to stimulate good conversation. His approach is a half-step above spam if you ask me.

I might have the worse reputation but I’m far and away easier to have a civilized, nuanced agree-to-disagree type of conversation with and the only reason I decided not to let up on his wack ass Night posts was his bitchassed ego tantrum when I, again, had a perfectly reasonable and well thought out reply that he couldn’t really disagree with.

>just don't want personal back-and-forth shit ruining posts.
>Take it to inbox, or leave it alone. That's it.

Fine, I’ll leave his stupid Shyamalan posts alone.

  

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54. "it's almost like people don't like having their faves shit on *shrug*"
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all i do is cyse Night Dogg and shit on other directors that a lotta people on this board think are so great. i've always maintained that history will prove me right and talent gon talent.

if they wanna say i'm wrong...cool. but, you have to concede that all the name-calling is just a sign that these people are insecure and rattled to see someone break rank and shit on nolan, tarantino, anderson, ritchie and all the other "cool" kids. i think those filmmakers are insanely overrated and i say why. they always skip over the WHY (like the fact that Nolan's films are fucking STERILE, soulless, muscular spectacles that bombard the senses with massive scores and clunky ass visuals) and jump right to "but you like m. night tho" and then accuse me of not wanting to engage in meaningful conversation. i ain't seen ONE of these people say "well, i like Nolan's trash ass visuals."

i spared this whole board from my opinion on inherent vice, because i LIKE PTA, but that was a bag of shit. it BOMBED and critics treated it with kid gloves because he's "cool" and they ain't wanna look like a dickhead for shitting on PTA like they shit on Night Dogg. M. Night is friendly, goofy Indian guy, who despite the oft-repeated LIE, is humble as fuck. PTA takes himself seriously as fuck and his "ego" isn't part of his narrative. hell, people shit on kevin smith for frying the guy about frogs falling out of the sky. that WAS a stupid ass device, but i liked it. i liked that he went there. and that's the same reason i like m. night. i admire the attempt. period.

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50. "damn"
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got me

  

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82. "So consensus is M Night has 2 great movies"
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and this might be his 3rd? Great, I will check it out. Thanks

  

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83. "i'd say that's fair. "
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84. "can we take a moment to appreciate jessica sula?!"
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cot damn!

  

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85. "Trini! I am now fully in support of this movie and renounce all"
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previous statements to the contrary.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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86. "We can all agree here, I'm sure."
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87. "All three girls were hot as fuck b"
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M. Night knew what he was doing.

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89. "And... Yep."
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http://twitter.com/phenompyrus

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88. "Yep."
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http://twitter.com/phenompyrus

Get Out the Room
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90. "I was like, "Oh, hello back there.""
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Then the nigga ate my baby, breh.

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92. "She's ok I guess"
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^^that's what I had to keep telling myself since I was sitting next to my wife during this thing.

That and the fact that these were, at least in the context of the movie, teenage girls in a decidedly vulnerable situation, had me trying to repress my appreciation.

Particularly once he made her remove the skirt and rendered her a walking Maxim cover thereafter.

  

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91. "Night Dogg still dominating box office...#1 again"
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only a 34% drop.

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93. "*yawn*"
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..i vowed to not waste any more time & effort on shyamalan or his films, but made a last minute compromise for a friend and what do i get?

THE SAME BULLSHIT.

dude runs the same formula every film and STILL can't find a closer.

i'm not even bothering with an official review. mcavoy spent quite a bit of time studying prior performances of his peers (o.p.p.), channelling everyone from tom cruz to giovanni ribisi (etcetera!). and the weak reveal for the final scene is so clichéd its laughable.

shyamalan might be a talented writer when it comes to ideas, but fleshing them out and bringing them to fruition is not his forté.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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94. "RE: *yawn*"
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>..i vowed to not waste any more time & effort on shyamalan or
>his films, but made a last minute compromise for a friend and
>what do i get?
>
>THE SAME BULLSHIT.
>
>dude runs the same formula every film and STILL can't find a
>closer.

What formula? Making a visually engaging movie and getting great performances out of actors?

>i'm not even bothering with an official review. mcavoy spent
>quite a bit of time studying prior performances of his peers
>(o.p.p.), channelling everyone from tom cruz to giovanni
>ribisi (etcetera!). and the weak reveal for the final scene is
>so clichéd its laughable.

you said absolutely nothing. this is a Hail Mary and it's WRONG. what cruise and ribisi performances did he pull from. you won't name any because i'll just watch them and tell you, in detail, why you're wrong.

what was cliche' about the reveal? the fact that it's NEVER fucking been done before. No one knew it was connected to a prior film, so you sound like the same type of doof back in 99 who was trying to convince people they knew bruce was dead .


>shyamalan might be a talented writer when it comes to ideas,
>but fleshing them out and bringing them to fruition is not his
>forté.

what fuckin i-hate-shyamalan template did you did use for this garbage?

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95. "So this trilogy up there with the best in the "superhero genre"?"
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97. "LOL it's only been two movies"
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Unbreakable and this.

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98. "I meant to say is this trilogy going down that road?"
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Cause I don't doubt they will be doing a 3rd

  

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99. "I mean he's gotta"
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Or else M. Night is a huge asshole for teasing people like that and not following through.

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107. "he says he's already done with the outline"
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96. "THREE-PEAT!!!! HE DID IT AGAIN!!! What a legend!"
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http://deadline.com/2017/02/rings-the-space-between-weekend-box-office-1201901560/

too bad about Taylor HACKford's The Comedian. He ain't made anything good since Ray. *shrug*

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100. "Since The Devil's Advocate."
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101. "Great movie, really digging the Blumhouse/Shyamalan collab"
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What both The Visit and Split do extremely well are the sudden moments of levity that balance the pacing and tension. Humor in horror flicks is such an underrated aspect; for many people laughing is a way to mitigate the immersion and allow them to enjoy the movie fully. In other words, if they can laugh during the times they're scared, they're more likely to enjoy the movie as a whole.

I loved the interplay between Casey's upbringing and the situation she found herself in. I was eagerly awaiting the moment her shit uncle would get his comeuppance but (as a horror fan) I LOVED the moment we found out he never did. That may have been the most (unexpectedly) chilling moment in a movie filled with those moments.

Although he didn't direct Devil, this has been a really great horror three film run from Shyamalan. I'm definitely digging his Damon Lindelof-like renaissance and will check out whatever's coming next (looks like it's Tales From the Crypt?!?!!? Fuck yes.)

  

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102. "Excellent return to form. "
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I still haven’t caught The Visit so I can’t speak on that one, but this is a huge step back in the right direction.

-JM did the damn thing. Absolutely. The challenge with something like this is that the drive to create such distinctive characters can turn each of them into caricatures, and I think he did a great job of that. He walked up to the edge here and there but generally kept everything in pocket. I do wish we would have seen more of the videos, ideally through analytic perspective of the therapist.

-The three girls were excellent in what they were given. To me, only Ana Taylor Joy had anything real to sink her teeth into and she delivered.

-Speaking of the therapist, Ryan O’Reilly’s mom!
SPOILER SECTION:

All in all I enjoyed the story from start to finish. I love the notion of treating multiple personalities as a super power of sorts.

That said I do have a few qualms.

-The Beast himself was well executed, generally speaking. I had more to say on this right after viewing but after a week I need to watch again. I felt like his mission/motivation was a little…. Eh. He wanted to make the innocent suffer, but why teenage girls specifically?

Given The Horde’s backstory you’d think he’d target middle aged women or, in a darker twist, teen boys. Kidnapping mothers who were known child abusers or privileged teen males would have made far more sense. Given the backstory the desire to eat innocent teen girls doesn’t make a lick of sense. None whatsoever, other than the fact that teen girls are the designated genre victim/last survivor.

-The backstory with the uncle was fine. It was creepy and uncomfortable but he exercised some common sense with it. My issue with this comes with the climactic moment. On its own it’s not a big deal but it sort of doubles down on the flawed choice of victim IMO.

As I already said I think the choice for teen girls was seriously flawed and this compounds the issue. Her “magic charm” against the beast turned out to be her scars and the safe assumption is that those scars were self-inflicted, but again, given The Beast’s backstory as well as hers, why not give her a backstory of physical and emotional abuse where those scars where given to her? Obviously that fits a little too neatly but the point is that there was probably a better, tighter backstory for this.

-I’m sorry but I laughed at the big reveal, at least the way it was executed. The whole, “hey wasn’t there a guy 15 years ago with a funny name like that?” thing was just bad dialogue. That’s a “worst of Law & Order” level line and a piss poor way to get there. That said the reveal was significant enough I was quickly overcome by feelings of “hell fucking yes” but the setup still left me rolling my eyes.

Again, it’s a damn good movie on the whole but there are some things that detract from it. It’s still a major step in the right direction for Night. Flaws and all, here’s hoping we get more of this and less of, say, The Happening or AE.

  

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103. "Regarding the preference for teenage girls..."
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I attributed that to Dennis and Patricia's greater affinity for The Beast than the other personalities. Dennis had a penchant for watching young girls dance and I presume Patricia held some sort of malice towards them as well (although that wasn't explored, IIRC).

  

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106. "Yeah I got the predilections of Dennis and all but...."
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There are a few things that still don’t add up to the chosen victims here:

-The desire of The Beast to be given a sacrifice of pure individuals who were unmarred by the suffering of he/Kevin.

-The two controlling personalities were acting to bring about the Beast by providing a sacrifice he demanded.

Given the fact that these personalities arose as a mechanism to protect Kevin, the sort of sacrifice demanded by the Beast seems wildly off base in relation to the sort of suffering endured by Kevin/the Horde. Certain personalities may have had their preferences but as those personalities were in essence disciples and, to a degree, clergy for the Beast and his ideology, “pure teenage girls” comes across as a particularly clichéd bit of prey.

To that end, even if his rage was merely focused on the unblemished, pure and unmarred among us, why wouldn’t he simply demand children of an age that lacks true accountability? The notion of teenage girls being pure as the driven snow is just as clichéd and outdated as the use of said girls as the lone survivor and/or primary object of the villains murderous plan.

The direction of the character seems to justify a motivation of “absolute judgment for the wicked” much more than “pain for the pure” such as abusive parents, or at a minimum, “pain for the pure” would be reserved for the truly privileged, perhaps those arrogantly ignorant to the suffering of others.

I’m sure there are ways to justify this choice within the narrative but as-is it’s the least of potential creative options. For my money there were far more realistic and appropriate choices and the “final girl’ route was, dare I say, the laziest choice possible.

  

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108. "RE: Yeah I got the predilections of Dennis and all but...."
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>There are a few things that still don’t add up to the
>chosen victims here:
>
>-The desire of The Beast to be given a sacrifice of pure
>individuals who were unmarred by the suffering of he/Kevin.
>
>-The two controlling personalities were acting to bring about
>the Beast by providing a sacrifice he demanded.
>
>Given the fact that these personalities arose as a mechanism
>to protect Kevin, the sort of sacrifice demanded by the Beast
>seems wildly off base in relation to the sort of suffering
>endured by Kevin/the Horde. Certain personalities may have had
>their preferences but as those personalities were in essence
>disciples and, to a degree, clergy for the Beast and his
>ideology, “pure teenage girls” comes across as a
>particularly clichéd bit of prey.

Cliched or not, the "teenage girl(s) attacked by predator" is a time honored trope in horror flicks. It's used in supernatural horror, slasher horror, campy horror, etc. Maybe it's because moviegoing horror fans probably skew younger or it's a chance to get some skin on screen or because females are generally easier to scare than males... or all of the above. It's fair to say it's cliched, but I don't think that should detract from the movie (as long as it makes sense).

>To that end, even if his rage was merely focused on the
>unblemished, pure and unmarred among us, why wouldn’t he
>simply demand children of an age that lacks true
>accountability? The notion of teenage girls being pure as the
>driven snow is just as clichéd and outdated as the use of
>said girls as the lone survivor and/or primary object of the
>villains murderous plan.

I would posit that the suffering The Beast was searching for could only be derived from victims who understood on some level what was happening. A baby or toddler or young child would only know that they're suffering, but not why or how. Whereas a teenage girl is old enough to know what, why and how pain occurs... but individuals will vary in terms of how much *suffering* she's endured. There's a big difference between a girl who complains about inviting the class outsider and another who grew up far, far too quickly.

>The direction of the character seems to justify a motivation
>of “absolute judgment for the wicked” much more than
>“pain for the pure” such as abusive parents, or at a
>minimum, “pain for the pure” would be reserved for the
>truly privileged, perhaps those arrogantly ignorant to the
>suffering of others.

Yeah, that's basically correct. Kevin/The Horde researched his victims ahead of time and followed them extensively (12 days, IIRC). He knew who these girls were, their upbringing, their wealth, their shelteredness. They may not have been "arrogant" or in any way malicious but they fit the criteria for The Beast's hunger.


>I’m sure there are ways to justify this choice within the
>narrative but as-is it’s the least of potential creative
>options. For my money there were far more realistic and
>appropriate choices and the “final girl’ route was, dare I
>say, the laziest choice possible.

We could go round and round about theoretical victims that may or may not have worked better in the narrative. But we may have to just agree to disagree for the sake of brevity. I'm not saying that other options couldn't be more effective, I'm just saying that the counterfactual doesn't exist in this case.

So why do I think the girls were effective? For one, we knew Casey the Outsider wasn't part of the original plan and we knew this because he didn't spray her until she opened the door. The film repeats this motif throughout: the first shot of the girls on the cots, the differing "fight or flight" responses, Casey's rape (after Patricia said they Dennis is "forbidden" from touching them), then her scars.

We're constantly reminded of the ways Casey is different from the other two girls and this is perhaps especially poignant when Claire is trying to give Marcia a peptalk when she's opening the latch. That false sense of security is never felt by Casey, the survivor of more trauma than anyone should ever experience at that age.

  

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104. "RE: Excellent return to form. "
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105. "Blech. Why even respond at all?"
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111. "What was the deal with the blurry focus?"
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Every now and then the camera would get blurry almost to disorient you or showing that someone was disoriented...did anybody pick up on that and what it was intended to mean?

It didn't seem to correlate with him switching personalities or the victims being drugged...just curious

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112. "man that was good"
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113. "This was great"
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I did hear the spoiler connection but it didn't mess up the viewing for me. I'm not sure I would have got around to watching this as soon had I not known.

  

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114. "I inly watched this because i just heard about the spoiler"
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although i agree with the other poster about the motivations of certain characters. i really enjoyed this

made me wanna go back and rewatch unbreakable

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115. "I just caught this on HBO"
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It's much better than I expected. Like "The Visit". McAvoy did his thing.

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116. "I liked it, but"
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McAvoy was good. The lead girl was good. The twist was fine. The connection to Unbreakable was fine.

BUT

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I'm a horror movie fan and this was really pretty tame, but for some reason it bothered me that the whole movie was watching these three terrified girls try to escape a maniac...only to have two of them get eaten. And the movie has no real resolution--dude just lets the final girl go home. Hopefully the follow-up movie will be more satisfying, because this wasn't.

  

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117. "Yeah. I feel you"
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SPOILERS







I liked it, but as a horror movie it was pretty tame. The funny thing is all the horror tropes you expect (jump scares, girls in underwear the whole movie) were there so M.Night was being intentional with his shit except actual real horror/scares weren't there.

Id say its because it was rated PG-13 but there's been successful PG-13 movies that have brought the scares + the creepiness. I think its because Mcovoy was more weird then creepy...I was never afraid of him as a bad guy in the film.

I cared about the girls because they did a good job being scared but that immediate creepiness that a solid horror film makes you personally feel? Not there at all.

  

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129. "Finally saw it. This is Exactly where I'm at"
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118. "i never posted about seeing this but it was dope af."
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119. "pretty twisted... i enjoyed it... I can't be the only one who"
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saw similarities to Red Dragon.. I mean it's plenty different but the whole concept of the emerging monster had me seeing that.

looking forward to the 3rd one... wasn't expecting that.

  

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120. "RE: pretty twisted... i enjoyed it... I can't be the only one who"
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Yeah. Season 3 of "Hannibal" was essentially Red Dragon and it went just like this movie. I kept thinking about that whenever dude talked about the beast and the horde.

>saw similarities to Red Dragon.. I mean it's plenty different
>but the whole concept of the emerging monster had me seeing
>that.
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121. "a lot of people made the same comparison. hard not to."
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>saw similarities to Red Dragon.. I mean it's plenty different
>but the whole concept of the emerging monster had me seeing
>that.

  

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Looked fantastic

McAvoy was phenomenal

But the Hoard was eh

And I agree with Cold Truth 110% the choice of victims was wack, yes guys, even though they were fine, but it's just fucn tired.

And the reveal poorly delivered, but glad it's giving us a third film

Gripes is small overall

4/5

  

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123. "Wish i had seen it before the reveal leaked online"
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i cant imagine being in a theatre, with no clue, hearing that Unbreakable music start

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124. "yep, that ending twist is basically the whole movie"
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SPOILER

If I hadn't known about the Unbreakable connection, I miiiiiiight have forgiven the fact that this is essential just a movie where a psychopath with mostly unexplained superpowers kidnaps three girls, plays mind games with them, eats two of them and lets one go. The end.

Having heard about the twist, I spent the whole movie thinking "why am I watching this?" Then yeah, I thought very last minute of the movie was fun.

I love horror movies, but I'm not really into watching a whole movie where I'm rooting for the protagonists to escape...then most of them die and the final girl is released because she's a rape victim and not because of her wit and survival skills.

  

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125. "I spent the whole movie wondering how the dots would connect"
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Once it finally ended my first thought was, "That's it?"

Same w/ Unbreakable but at least that had a better journey along the way

  

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126. "teen girls don't outwit and survive a highly intelligent super villain"
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this what i'm talmbout right here. y'all so used to your lil silly comic book movies that you'd really be comfortable with her setting some basic ass trap and killing the villain.

no, the villain had motives and she didn't fit his victim profile. he let her go. simple as that.

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127. "yeah, I understood it. I just thought it was stupid. "
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128. "It's a stupid played out trope of victims you idiot"
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The fact that it's the rape victim that he let's go only highlights it's stupidity.

His viks, if he a genius villian should've been people like his mother or the uncle who was raping her

  

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130. "Thing is, it's not."
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She was never on his radar in the first place... remember the scene in the car?

That feeling of kindred spirits is a powerful thing, and is a theme that people heavily relate with.

  

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131. "he got it all figured out. let him run with his wrongness. "
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constantly posts dumb ass shit about music, movies, and sports like he stuck in 1956

why do I come back to this place.

  

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135. "lol. patriarchy is powerful thing."
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"Like, do you want to actually discuss this? "


  

          

Or resort to hot takes?

I'm all for civil discourse but if you refuse to address any actual points then you're the one not adding anything useful.

Any thoughts on post #108?

  

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132. "Night Dogg! You did it! You finally made a good movie again!"
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134. "He killed it with The Visit too... "
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