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bwood
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"Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk (Ang Lee, 2016)"


          

https://youtu.be/bEG2uamc324

In 3D. The battle sequences are in 120 frames per second.

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I thought I read that the whole thing was in 120.
May 12th 2016
1
Yeah I remember people saying battle scenes only.
May 12th 2016
2
      Everything I read about this makes me so pumped.
May 12th 2016
3
           Same. Life of Pi hit the sweet spots in all areas
May 12th 2016
4
I'm excited for this, read the book and it made a dude teary eyed
May 12th 2016
5
Worth a read?
May 12th 2016
6
      Book is great. Read it in two days
May 12th 2016
7
           Yea, this looks more satire and the book is a little lighter
May 12th 2016
8
Premiering during the New York Film Festival.
Aug 22nd 2016
9
Saw 15-20 minutes of this today in 120 fps 3D
Aug 23rd 2016
10
Technically flawless. Shit story
Nov 18th 2016
11
120 fps was fantastic. Most everything else was bad, I hate to say.
Nov 21st 2016
12

Frank Longo
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1. "I thought I read that the whole thing was in 120."
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I could be wrong. I remember reading a great piece about Ang Lee talking about how one of the best justifications for high frame reasons is simply capturing a face.

Needless to say, as someone who *loves* frame rate experimentation, I'm overjoyed.

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bwood
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2. "Yeah I remember people saying battle scenes only."
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Some people tweeted that earlier today too.

In any rate the first presentation floored everybody. Just an FYI to everybody: 120 frames per second 4K 3D. 120 frames for each eye by the way.

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/ang-lee-billy-lynns-long-halftime-walk-footage-stuns-1201755151/

Advanced format leaves attendees praising both tech and the film itself

Any worries Ang Lee had about how the technologists at the Future of Cinema Conference would receive his presentation of footage from “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” were laid to rest on Saturday.

The presentation of an 11-minute sequence from the film in its native format (3D, at 4K resolution and 120 frames per second for each eye) electrified the conference in Las Vegas, leaving even experienced pros grasping for superlatives to convey what they had seen. Their praise wasn’t reserved for the technology, but for the film itself as well.


Former Disney exec, now Society of Motion Picture Engineers (SMPTE) executive Howard Lukk told Variety moments after emerging from a showing “I’m stunned. It’s a really powerful film, and a really clear presentation. It’s the best 3D I’ve ever seen in my life. The 3D is really, really good on this thing. Absolutely amazing.”

Visual effects supervisor Dennis Muren was in the very first screening, along with “Avatar” producer Jon Landau, high-frame-rate pioneer Douglas Trumbull and numerous other VIPs. Muren, a friend of Lee’s since they worked together on “Hulk,” told Variety, “I thought it was amazing and incredibly emotional. I started to talk to Ang about the technology stuff and said ‘What the heck am I talking about? It’s an emotional film. I’m totally with this guy and the experience he’s going through, as though I was there, at the moment, looking at it.’ Muren, a fan of high frame rate cinema, said of the 120fps format, “You can see the difference. And feel the difference. It’s really about feeling.”

The big question many had coming in was: Will it look like television. The answer to that was “yes and no.” Several people felt that for the first few seconds, they thought it looked like a TV soap, but it quickly began to feel like nothing they’d seen before.

The sequence chosen for viewing is 11 minutes intercutting an Iraq War battle with a celebration of the soldiers at an NFL game in Dallas. The experience of the soldiers at home, as performers (almost props) in a celebration in a darkened stadium, contrasts with their firefight and hand-to-hand combat of the Iraq scenes.

The clarity and the almost VR-like sense of presence it creates gives the battle sequences a profound impact. One viewer said after emerging, “Every American ought to see this, this way; then we wouldn’t have any wars for a while.”


Dolby VP of technology Pat Griffiss, who was in the first screening, called the footage “Absolutely spectacular.”

“When it first started up … I thought ‘Oh, this is going to look like a video newsreel.’ But it was in 3D, the realism and the brightness and the frame rate, it was literally as if you were there.” Griffiss added, “This is undoubtedly the best 3D I’ve ever seen.”

Former Sony tech executive George Joblove, now an independent consultant, agreed about the you-are-there feeling of the video, but wasn’t entirely sure that would be a plus. “I’m trying to decide whether it’s my bias, as someone having grown up in the 20th century, and being used to the idea that narrative filmmaking should be at 24 frames per second to let you know you’re watching a story. I wonder whether people younger than I am will have that bias. I will be curious to see what the public reaction to this will be, because it definitely makes you feel like you’re there.”

Andrew Stucker, also a former Sony exec turned consultant, said “I was extraordinarily impressed. I didn’t see a movie-like image, but I saw something entirely different. It was as immersive and involving an image play as I’ve ever seen.” Asked if it looked like video, he said “Not really. When you first look at it, you think, ‘Oh, that’s video.’ But it’s an extension beyond video. Whatever that is, I’m not entirely sure, but it’s more than video.”

By the time Lee took the panel to discuss the making of the film, there was a palpable sense of history being made. However that excitement was tempered by the knowledge that most of the public is unlikely to be able to see the film in this form. It was a shown on dual-projector setup specially assembled for the show, using high-end Christie projectors and Dolby 3D. Without dual projectors, no commercial movie theaters will be able to show 3D/4K/120. Even with dual projectors, the best format likely to be available is 3D/4K/60.

But still, at a Future of Cinema Conference, a glimpse of the future is what the attendees wanted; Sony and Lee gave it to them, and then some. Chief technology officer Jim Whittlesey of London-based Eikon Group, agreed that the footage felt like video at first bent beyond a video look. “I thought the images were absolutely stunning, some of the most beautiful images you’ll ever see,” he said. “This is what cinema should be.

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3. "Everything I read about this makes me so pumped."
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Most anticipated of the year, honestly.

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bwood
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4. "Same. Life of Pi hit the sweet spots in all areas"
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visually (still on the best 3D movies yet), storytelling, and emotionally.

If it's half as good as L.o.P. I hope it can do it's business as well.

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5. "I'm excited for this, read the book and it made a dude teary eyed"
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I'm sure Ang is going to bring out all the feels with this one.

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6. "Worth a read?"
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7. "Book is great. Read it in two days"
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The tone is much different than that trailer, which has the satire of over the top patriotism but not the dark humor. The book is actually very funny

  

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8. "Yea, this looks more satire and the book is a little lighter"
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but it still has some emotional parts IMHO that hit. I wanna see how they handle the cheerleaders.

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9. "Premiering during the New York Film Festival."
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Can't wait. Gonna have to get a press pass.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/movies/ang-lee-billy-lynns-long-halftime-walk-new-york-film-festival.html?_r=0

After a four-year absence from theaters, Ang Lee will return this fall with an searing film about young American war heroes that may land him, once again, in the Oscar race. But the movie, billed as a cinematic leap forward because of the digitally radical way it was shot, has faced one major question.

Because few commercial theaters have projection systems that are technologically advanced enough, will anyone even be able to see “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” in the exact format Mr. Lee intended?

At the very least, New Yorkers will.

The New York Film Festival said on Monday that it would host the world premiere of Mr. Lee’s film on Oct. 14 in a theater — a relatively small one, with just 300 seats — rigged with projectors capable of playing the film in 3-D, 4K ultra-high-definition and at the extremely fast speed of 120 frames a second. No film has ever been shown publicly that way before, according to the festival and Sony Pictures, which will release “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” nationally on Nov. 11.

It may sound like techno-babble, but Mr. Lee’s blend of visual formats is a major departure for movie exhibition, particularly when it comes to the speed. Films have been presented almost exclusively at 24 frames a second since the 1920s. To some degree, that rate gives cinema its otherworldly quality — the blur when cameras pan from side to side, for instance.

To achieve a sharper picture and limit the eye strain that can affect 3-D viewers, some filmmakers are experimenting with higher speeds. Peter Jackson tried 48 frames a second with “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” in 2012; James Cameron is considering higher-speed cinematography for his “Avatar” sequels. But no mainstream director has pushed as far as Mr. Lee, who has a history of embracing new technology, with the digitally rendered tiger in “Life of Pi” as one example.

“I thought Billy’s journey, which is both intimate and epic, and told almost entirely from his point of view, lent itself particularly well to the emotion and intensity that this new approach fosters,” Mr. Lee said in a statement. He added that technology “should always be in service of artistic expression, to make it strong and fresh, because story and drama matter most.”

Marc Platt, one of the film’s producers, said in an email that “movies today need to give audiences compelling reasons to escape their devices, and that means taking risks.”

The film is considered a risk partly because the hyper-reality lent by the cinematography technology could be unsettling to viewers. “Test subjects that have seen some footage have commented that 40 minutes after seeing battle footage, they’re still shaking,” Ben Gervais, a production systems supervisor on the film, told Variety in April.

“Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk,” an adaptation of Ben Fountain’s novel, is about a hero in the Iraq war (played by the newcomer Joe Alwyn) who is whisked back to the United States with fellow veterans after a harrowing battle. They go on a surreal victory tour that ends with a halftime show at a Thanksgiving football game. The supporting cast includes Kristen Stewart, Chris Tucker, Vin Diesel and Steve Martin. Sony and its partners spent a little under $40 million to make the movie.

It is expected that the specially outfitted theater, which is at AMC Lincoln Square, will play “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” when the film begins its theatrical run shortly after the conclusion of the New York Film Festival. Moviegoers elsewhere will have to make do with whatever screening environment that local multiplexes can best provide. There are theaters, for instance, that can play a movie at 120 frames a second, although not in 3-D. Even Imax theaters can play 3-D movies only at a maximum of 60 frames a second. (Regardless of the setup, it will look sharper than a standard movie.)

“Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” promises to give the New York Film Festival the sizzle that seemed lacking when organizers announced the bulk of their lineup this month. Absent were hotly anticipated narrative movies like “Gone Girl” or “Captain Phillips,” both of which had their premieres at the event in years past. “The 13th,” a Netflix documentary directed by Ava DuVernay that examines the United States’ sky-high incarceration rate, will open this year’s festival on Sept. 30.

Known for auteur-driven and foreign-language cinema, the festival has a mixed track record as an awards indicator. Sony successfully unveiled David Fincher’s “The Social Network” there in 2010; it went on to collect $225 million at the global box office and receive nominations for eight Academy Awards, winning three. But Sony’s technologically adventurous “The Walk,” directed by Robert Zemeckis, was rebuffed by ticket buyers and awards groups after opening last year’s festival.

Kent Jones, the event’s director, said in a statement that Mr. Lee’s film “moved me deeply — in the grandest way, as a story of America in the years after the invasion of Iraq, and on the most intimate person-to-person wavelength.”

In a phone interview, Mr. Jones said: “We are used to seeing 3-D used to focus on spectacle. This is precisely the opposite. It’s all about the faces, the smallest emotional shifts.”

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10. "Saw 15-20 minutes of this today in 120 fps 3D"
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It's hard to describe, but it's next level.

I'm really excited to see the full film.

It's a tad unsettling cause the brain isn't used to processing things like that.

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11. "Technically flawless. Shit story"
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The way the 120fps 3D was used was brilliant and immersive. However, the story and dialogue are bit good. At all. Also, Kirsten Stewart's southern accent sucked.

The battle sequence in 120 frames per second 3D is one of the best cinematic experiences I've ever had.

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12. "120 fps was fantastic. Most everything else was bad, I hate to say."
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Main kid was fine, Kristen Stewart was really good per usual, and I was surprised by how good Hedlund was (an On the Road reunion!). A few good moments, usually non-verbal. But maaaaaaan, the script was inexplicable for so many reasons. Now that it's not showing in 120 fps, I'd ignore it.

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