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"Oeuvrank - Coen Brothers"
Wed Feb-03-16 05:14 PM by SoulHonky

          

Not sure we did one of these with these guys but with Hail Caesar coming out, might as well see where people rank their Coen Bros. experiences.

I probably need to check out Llewyn Davis again. I want to give the Not a Fan List another chance but couldn't get through another viewing of Intolerable Cruelty and I've seen Burn After Reading a second time and my opinion didn't change.

A little nervous about Hail Caesar since I'm not a fan of Clooney & Coens but I feel like it will, at work, be at the top of the MEH list.

Also, I feel like my memory is being nicer to True Grit than it should be. It's borderline MEH.

LOVED
1. No Country for Old Men
2. Fargo
3. The Big Lebowski
- Raising Arizona (Forgot this one; don't feel like renumbering.)
4. Miller's Crossing
5. A Serious Man

LIKED
6. Blood Simple
7. True Grit

MEH
7. Inside Llewyn Davis
8. Hudsucker Proxy

NOT A FAN
10. Burn After Reading
11. O, Brother, Where Art Thou?
12. The Ladykillers
13. Intolerable Cruelty

NEVER SAW
Barton Fink
The Man Who Wasn't There

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Impossible to do. Too many masterpieces.
Feb 03rd 2016
1
i can't even do it.
Feb 03rd 2016
2
~
Feb 03rd 2016
3
i low key feel they are overly hyped, but I aint seen enough of their
Feb 03rd 2016
4
give 'miller's crossing' another shot. it's really fucking good.
Feb 04th 2016
10
      Took the letters right off of my keyboard w/ this below
Feb 05th 2016
11
      pretty much every single line of dialogue in MC is great
Feb 05th 2016
12
           Agreed
Feb 11th 2016
23
1. No Country for Old Men
Feb 04th 2016
5
That's quite the claim right there......
Feb 04th 2016
6
      yep
Feb 04th 2016
7
Less is more
Feb 04th 2016
8
I'm surprised at the Burn After Reading hate to be honest.
Feb 04th 2016
9
yeah it's not one of my favorites but i still enjoyed it
Feb 05th 2016
13
Probably suffers from being their first film after "No Country..."
Feb 09th 2016
21
1- Miller's Crossing
Feb 05th 2016
14
lots of serious man hate in here
Feb 08th 2016
15
That movie didn't do anything!
Feb 08th 2016
16
So I'm the only one who loved O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Feb 08th 2016
17
Nah, man. I love that movie too
Feb 08th 2016
18
Has less to do with that movie and more to do with the Coens.
Feb 09th 2016
20
i'm a big fan
Feb 09th 2016
19
Starting to think I'm one of the few who loved "Man Who Wasn't There"
Feb 09th 2016
22
It's in my top 5 Cohen Bros. films
Feb 12th 2016
24
hell nah. love that flick.
Feb 13th 2016
25
hold up. ur ranking em but never seen Barton Fink?
Feb 13th 2016
26

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1. "Impossible to do. Too many masterpieces. "
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MASTERPIECES:
No Country For Old Men
Fargo
Barton Fink
Inside Llewyn Davis
A Serious Man
The Big Lebowski
Raising Arizona
Miller's Crossing
Blood Simple

GREAT FUCKING MOVIES:
True Grit
Burn After Reading
The Hudsucker Proxy
The Man Who Wasn't There

REALLY GOOD MOVIES:
Intolerable Cruelty
O Brother Where Art Thou?

MOVIES WITH ONLY ONE REALLY BAD ELEMENT BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS REALLY GOOD IN IT:
Ladykillers

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dula dibiasi
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2. "i can't even do it."
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Wed Feb-03-16 06:27 PM by dula dibiasi

  

          

i mean, they do have a top tier (NCfOM, fargo, lebowski, MC, TG, RA) but pretty much all their shit is just consistently really really good, well-made and entertaining.

like, their mid-tier shits, stuff like TMWWT, would be the crown jewel of other guys' entire ographies.

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3. "~"
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1. No Country For Old Men
2. Fargo
3. The Big Lebowski
4. Inside Llewyn Davis
5. True Grit
6. Barton Fink
7. Raising Arizona
8. O Brother Where Art Thou
9. Burn After Reading
10. The Hudsucker Proxy
11. Blood Simple
12. Miller's Crossing
13. The Man Who Wasn't There

0. Intolerable Cruelty
0. The Ladykillers
0. A Serious Man
0. Hail Caesar

  

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4. "i low key feel they are overly hyped, but I aint seen enough of their"
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movies, honestly

of the ones I've watched

No Country for Old Men - classic
Fargo - very dope
Burn After Reading - funny as hell. dug the hell out of this
Intolerable Cruelty - enjoyed this
True Grit - yawn
The Ladykillers - fucn TERRIBLE (Marlon's character was offensive)
A Serious Man - fucn TERRIBLE
O' Brother - fell asleep twice, turned it off a third
Miller's Crossing - started on Netflix never finished

never seen any of these:
The Big Lebowski
Raising Arizona
Blood Simple
Inside Llewyn Davis - never watched, but gunna cause Oscar isaac's gawd is the lead
Hudsucker Proxy - never watched
Barton Fink
The Man Who Wasn't There


  

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10. "give 'miller's crossing' another shot. it's really fucking good."
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I've literally lost count of how many times I've recommended that film to ppl who'd never even heard of it, and who came back to me raving after watching it. I honestly can't understand how anyone could be a fan of the coens and their filmmaking style at all and not consider that one a masterpiece.

it's my favorite take on the yojimbo riff, even moreso than 'fistful of dollars'. fantastic characters and pacing, several award worthy performances, and the finney scene (you'll know which one) is epic.

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11. "Took the letters right off of my keyboard w/ this below"
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I honestly can't
>understand how anyone could be a fan of the coens and their
>filmmaking style at all and not consider that one a
>masterpiece.

It's baffling to me too

several
>award worthy performances, and the finney scene (you'll know
>which one) is epic.

Somehow I only discovered it after seeing Gabe Byrne in The Usual Suspects. Liked him a lot as Keaton but Reagan was on a whole nother level. Marcia Gay Harden & John Turturro were outstanding as well.

Pissed I missed seeing it on the big screen

  

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12. "pretty much every single line of dialogue in MC is great"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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23. "Agreed"
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5. "1. No Country for Old Men"
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it's the best movie released in the last 33 years.

2. Fargo -- classic Coen story-telling and characterization.
3. The Big Lebowski -- quotables for days and the Folgers cremation scene is one of the best of any comedy.

the rest are a clear step down and closely bunched, but interesting for their own reasons:

4. Inside Llewyn Davis -- it'll seem a lot better in another decade.
6. A Serious Man -- I thought it was hilarious.
5. Raising Arizona -- when they really found their style.
6. Barton Fink
7. Miller's Crossing -- solid, but quite overrated.
8. Burn After Reading
9. Blood Simple -- an outline of a Coen Brothers movie, but not a full-on Coens experience yet.
10. Intolerable Cruelty -- it's fine.
11. True Grit -- worse than some of their misfires because it was plain boring. anybody could having seemingly directed this.

never seen the rest. I really hate most musicals.

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6. "That's quite the claim right there......"
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>it's the best movie released in the last 33 years.
>

I almost want to hear the case made for that....not saying you're wrong. What are you going back to....Blade Runner?


I consider No Country an A-plus classic level film but I'm not going to act as if I don't like Fargo more. To me, that's the perfect blend of everything the Coens do so well. There's light and dark moments, it's just as perfect on a technical level and arguably the more memorable of the two films.

  

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7. "yep"
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>What are you going back to....Blade Runner?

Blade Runner (1982). although that date is a little debatable since the original theatrical release is a much lesser movie than every version thereafter.

Goodfellas, The Tree of Life, maybe There Will Be Blood, Unforgiven, Spirited Away I can all see a case for. obviously past Blade Runner you get into the legendary '70s and that's a whole nother comparison.

NCFOM is a masterpiece, though. there are dozens of movies that I think are classic or exemplary but not perfect. to me, NCFOM is perfect.

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8. "Less is more "
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Mount Rushmore (in order):

Miller's Crossing
No Country for Old Men
The Big Lebowski
Fargo

Meh:

Raising Arizona
Blood Simple
True Grit
Hail Caesar
The Ladykillers
The Man Who Wasn't There

CZJ in that dress made it tolerable:

Intolerable Cruelty

Never got all the way through & probably never will:

O, Brother, Where Art Thou?
Barton Fink

Missed these but content I didn't miss much:

Inside Llewyn Davis
Hudsucker Proxy

Awful:

A Serious Man
Burn After Reading





  

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9. "I'm surprised at the Burn After Reading hate to be honest."
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Thu Feb-04-16 04:57 PM by Ryan M

  

          

Personally, I like it better than The Man Who Wasn't There (the worst of the ones I've seen - but I havent seen Intolerable Cruelty or Ladykillers), True Grit (which I kind of hated), Hudsucker Proxy, and Miller's Crossing.

Their 4 masterpieces are NCfOM, Fargo, Lebowski, and Barton Fink, probably in that order to me. But they're just fucking great all in all.

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13. "yeah it's not one of my favorites but i still enjoyed it"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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21. "Probably suffers from being their first film after "No Country...""
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I seriously enjoyed it, but then I love their goofy comedies.

People forget that "Big Lebowski" was not particularly well-received when it first came out. People were expecting and wanted another "Fargo," and they got what came across as a complete goof.

BTW, you're tripping about "Man Who Wasn't There" and "Miller's Crossing."

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14. "1- Miller's Crossing"
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2-Fargo
3-No Country
4-A Serious Man
5-Big Lebowski
6-Blood Simple
7-Barton Fink
8-O Brother
9-Hudsucker
10-Raising Arizona
11-Inside Lewin (need to revisit)
12-Burn After Reading
13-Intolerable
14-Ladykillers
15-True Grit
16-Man Who Wasn't There

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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15. "lots of serious man hate in here"
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sy ableman is such a great character.

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16. "That movie didn't do anything! "
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Ah- haaaah

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17. "So I'm the only one who loved O Brother, Where Art Thou?"
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18. "Nah, man. I love that movie too"
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Pretty shocked to see it on the lower end of lots of these lists.

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20. "Has less to do with that movie and more to do with the Coens."
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The Coens are just that fucking great that a fun and gorgeous comedy like O Brother is in the back half of their catalogue.

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19. "i'm a big fan"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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22. "Starting to think I'm one of the few who loved "Man Who Wasn't There""
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Probably my favorite Billy Bob Thornton performance, and dude is my favorite actor working.

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24. "It's in my top 5 Cohen Bros. films"
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25. "hell nah. love that flick."
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26. "hold up. ur ranking em but never seen Barton Fink?"
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wouldn't mind seeing a re-ranking once you've seen that.

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