The premiere was actually pretty good and introduced a couple new characters to the show from the comics (Heath!) and really solidified Morgan as another leading character (which is great because Lennie James is fantastic).

I know I'm not the only one who caught the opener, what are we thinking about the new season?

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excellent pacing. Loved the black & white effect on the flash backs. It really gave you the feel of the comic.
Hype that Morgan is back. (Lenny is the man!!!)
Caught the "I ask you answer...its common courtesy right?", which was a call back to what Morgan said to Rick when they first met.
Was also good to see Heath though I cant separate the actor playing him from his Dr Dre role. LOL! Great start to the season. Hope it keeps the pace up.

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>excellent pacing. Loved the black & white effect on the flash
>backs. It really gave you the feel of the comic.
>Hype that Morgan is back. (Lenny is the man!!!)
>Caught the "I ask you answer...its common courtesy right?",
>which was a call back to what Morgan said to Rick when they
>first met.
>Was also good to see Heath though I cant separate the actor
>playing him from his Dr Dre role. LOL! Great start to the
>season. Hope it keeps the pace up.

Muthafuckin Dre! lol yeah I noticed him too. Glad Lennie is back as a series regular. Morgan is a great character. Hopefully he doesn't suffer the same fate from the comics.

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and how racist it is that Hollywood, with all of it's amazing effects, has never mastered the fake cornrow?

other than that, it was a great episode.

can't wait to find out who's back in Alexandria fucking up the program.

>can't wait to find out who's back in Alexandria fucking up the
>program.

The Wolves. Remember they found dudes backpack with the pix of Alexandria. So they prob waited for Rick & company to leave on this mission & then they made their move. Be interesting if it was something or someone else though.

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there's just too many Rick haters for me to think it's the Wolves JUST yet, but of course they are gonna show up eventually.

but I guess we'll see.

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I think it's either Ron or Gabriel. Rick shot him down before he even finished saying he would help.

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Nice mix of action, and loved how they paced the episode. We got to see what happened between the end of last season and the start of this season by black and white flashbacks. Felt like that was very well done and made for no real dull moments.

The threat, the plan, and that horn at the end. Can't wait to see how the rest of this season goes. Scott Gimple was the best thing to happen to this show.

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Was actually a bit bummed to see Carter eat it... he was a shithead, but I'm all about redemption stories and it seemed like he came around.

Hilarious though how Rick & Co. all showed up conveniently at the perfect moment, without even a reason as to why they were there (at least he was getting flares when that one chick was there).

Same like the poster above, cannot unsee Dr. Dre.

Lotta characters in the show now... suspect a big culling of the herd soon, especially since there weren't any major deaths at the end of last season.

glad to see Corey Hawkins added to the cast...so this means Father Gabriel is going to die right..lol
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there may not have been a lot of good options (burning them would draw too much attention and probably wouldn't work anyway), but setting them free and attempting to lead them on a 30-mile trek was without doubt the worst one. if literally anything goes wrong-- say you run up on another group of people unexpectedly or a bunch of deer run across the road or a loud horn goes off nearby for some reason-- you just set off a nuclear bomb in your backyard.

and best case scenario, you succeed in walking them 30 miles away from alexandria, but you're always gonna be walking them towards someone else. you're setting a football stadium full of walkers loose, who cares how far away they are? the unintended consequences are infinite.

the days they spent building up that RV wall at the crossroad could've been spent building up the tractor trailer wall that was keeping the walkers in the pit, and given the group some time to think up a better way to dispose of them. but rule number one is DO NOT LET THEM OUT.

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It seems there's so much that could go wrong. I wish they had just given a cursory mention to burning the shit outta them, because that seems like such an obvious solution. Like the quarry floor won't burn or no fuel or whatever. Herding zombies just seems so difficult for the sake of difficulty.

>the days they spent building up that RV wall at the crossroad
>could've been spent building up the tractor trailer wall that
>was keeping the walkers in the pit, and given the group some
>time to think up a better way to dispose of them. but rule
>number one is DO NOT LET THEM OUT.

the noise from the construction would attract ALL of the walkers towards that area at one time. Single walkers were already getting through and that much of a push could've also freed the megaherd at once.

little by little and just killed them in small groups. Figure out a way to lead small groups of them out and kill them as they come. do a certain number each day. have shifts of walker killing groups working to kill all of them everyday and widdle it down to nothing.

would've take a lot of time but still a better option.

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when that truck slid down into the cavern

or another great episode?

Man, they picked right up with the Wolves in this one didn't they? Dudes are like a bunch of crazed slasher movie villains running up on Alexandria.

I think I said during the episode a few times "Holy shit" in reference to how badass Carol and Morgan each are.

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I honestly didn't miss Rick and 'nem this ep, but I am curious as to how he's going to react to this.

I do like how they're giving multiple angles to the story so far.






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I really thought they were going to show what was going on in Alexandria then the last 2 minutes was the attack. You know this show loves building shit up. But nope went right into the shit. Maybe in episode 3 we get a Rocky style montage of Rick and the crew teaching whats left of the residents to shoot and defend themselves.

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Why are they chopping up bodies? I mean like the Alexandrian has been killed but the Wolf just stands there for minutes and minutes hacking away limbs and shit... For what?

If they're that insane, how do they manage to work together?

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better than all of Fear The Walking Dead. lol

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to a show that's sorta a new property is a fair comparison.

Come on.

Fear's first season is much better than TWD's first season... the same season that got critically panned despite high ratings, leading Darabont to fire his entire writing staff.

Not trying to convince you to like Fear, but applying the same standards to the two shows at this point is being disingenuous.

how much I like this ep. lol

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But I definitely do agree, this was a killer episode. Loved the barest acknowledgment between Carol and Morgan at the end. Each bad asses but in very different ways. And by splitting the episodes, solid way to avoid paying the entire cast, hah.

>And by splitting
>the episodes, solid way to avoid paying the entire cast, hah.

As much as a cash cow as this show has been for AMC, I highly doubt they split the cast up to avoid paying them. These first two episodes looked very very expensive to me, and I doubt AMC care too deeply as long as the show continues to break ratings records. Not saying I'm the hugest fan of the show myself, but it does numbers.

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but budget was an issue for the first 3-4 seasons. It has been the top viewed series on cable since it aired. But the budget is too damn high talks always came out every single year. I want to say around season 2 or 3 one of the executive notes was maybe instead of always seeing zombies we can hear zombies.

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> These first two episodes looked very expensive to me

That's the perfect reason to split the actors via episode. If not necessarily the writing, then definitely in editing. For example, Greg Nicotero on Talking Dead spoke about how they had a bigger makeup crew than usual, and they were working nonstop through the entire shoot. By the time they were done applying makeup, they were starting to get extras that were coming in to get the makeup removed.

Just because the show is a cash cow doesn't mean they have an unlimited budget.

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When the episode started I was thinking how they should really kill one of the main group (Rick, Michonne, Carol, Daryl, Carl, Glenn Maggie). But thought they didn't seem they had the guts anymore.
Then. Adios G.

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But that was better than the death Glenn had in the comics in my opinion. Makes me wonder how Negan is going to catch wreck when he eventually rears his head.

I'm also amazed the black dude with the shot up leg actually lived through the end there.

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Watch they find a way to keep him alive. They didn't show him during the memoriam on the talking dead.

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he should be dead. they needed to shake it up.

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he'll return in zombie form in the next episode. Wouldn't be the first time the show had living characters reappear in zombie form.

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If some how he still alive, (lets say the body being eaten was the other guy & Glen was under it.) it would be super "salt in the wound", to have him come back & still get taken out by Negan in the finale. lol

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>If some how he still alive, (lets say the body being eaten
>was the other guy & Glen was under it.) it would be super
>"salt in the wound", to have him come back & still get taken
>out by Negan in the finale. lol

Even if it was Nick being ate at the moment, how does he get out of that situation? He's surrounded by a horde of walkers who smell blood. He was visibly out in the open so how do they explain the walkers conveniently eating around Glenn? It makes no sense and if he somehow survives, the walkers are no longer a major threat.

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The scene violated the 180 rule. Dude shot himself towards the right side of his head. When camera pans to Glenn....blood splatters in from the right side of his head. Guaranteed that was not an accident.

Also, Glenn's intestines came from his chest. No way those makeup fx nerds would allow that.

When they first introduced michoone, she was able to walk amongst them covered in zombie blood. Why don't they incorporate this tactic more often when going out in the herd?

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for that to make any sense. Glenn was on the floor completely immersed in a crowd of zombies.

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They way they shot it I could see them saying it was the other dude. But honestly he should be dead.

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> I'm also amazed the black dude with the shot up leg actually lived through the end there.

The survivors were the three black folk

>> I'm also amazed the black dude with the shot up leg
>actually lived through the end there.
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personally I preferred the way it went in the comic. But if he is dead then Im worried who's gonna catch the wrath of Negan? My money would be on Darryl. Any one but Michonne and Im good.

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I hope he is dead for reasons different from the rest of you guys. I've gotten to a point with tv and movies where, when the main character(s) get into trouble the suspense is numbed for me because I am always like "Oh they aint gone let HIM die!" I just wish they would sometimes.

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The only I feel like won't die is Rick, until the last season at least

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Stick man risked lives by letting those wolves escaped.

Dude who caused this weeks death has been a liability for a minute and it finally got someone important killed.

Carol been on that ish and now it seems Rick is a firm believer.

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Glenn didn't get the elegant death scenes that Tyreese and Sasha's boyfriend did. For such an important character (the first S1 character to die since Andrea in S3 or S4) the disparity feels significant. Of what significance? I have no idea.

There were also no witnesses to his death, so conceivably the group will be in a Sophia Situation, where they're constantly on the search for him (or his body) until there's closure.

Besides all that though, Glenn's death means that not every Main Character is going to get a huge build up to his death... it helps the show feel "dangerous" again, especially since a major character hasn't died in some time.

Of course this is all assuming he's actually dead... but I think it'd be safe to assume he is.

Edit: If you saw Gimple's response to "Is Glenn still alive?", I think there's also a possibility that Glenn will live on... in the form of a pregnant Maggie.

>Besides all that though, Glenn's death means that not every
>Main Character is going to get a huge build up to his death...
>it helps the show feel "dangerous" again, especially since a
>major character hasn't died in some time.

One of the things that imho kept Walking Dead from having the impact that Game of Thrones has with deaths is how they have this buildup towards it and then the characters mourn and eulogize all in the same show. They let the audience make peace with the character leaving the show and as a result it doesn't have that same visceral punch that a post apocalyptic story should have where death is 'cheap' except when its beloved characters.

We constantly see characters have random senseless deaths (how did that zombie get right behind dude!) that at some point you would think some of our heroes would have to befall the same fate.

I had two episodes in the can I heard that a major character would die. The episode had the arc you were discussing before where they build up one character and I was sure Carol was about to bite it.


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In on too. It definitely makes the show seem real becuz they never know for sure how these things can go. There is always the risk of death in this world.

And I think Maggie definitely will be preggars and I think it's the only thing that can keep her from offing herself

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Like someone said earlier, this show is a fraud if he doesn't die. They've already wasted time with him laying there screaming and no walkers have swiped at his face. I like his character, but for the show to remain unpredictable, that has to happen.

If it was Michonne in the same situation, she'd have to go too..





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... it would be very disappointing. Even if he does end up dying but somehow gets out of that mob, it would be disappointing. If they make a decision to kill a character, kill 'em. Don't do this tease shit then "surprise! he's back!" nonsense.

And I say this as an Asian with a buddy that looks JUST like Glenn. When he went down, my wife and I were both all "OH NO!!! RICH IS DEAD!!"

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Namely number 2.


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Chuck D's list of 15 reasons why Tupac is still alive, lol

But even if reason #2 was the case, how long could that realistically last? He'd have to lay perfectly underneath Nicholas' steadily diminishing body, and have to hope a random grasping hand doesn't grab one of his limbs.

It's the cast photos for this new character that gives the strongest credence to him surviving though. If so, I'll reserve judgement until I see how they tell that story, but I don't care how Tyreese-like this dude is, that was an impossible situation for Glenn. I hate to see the only Asian cat die, but if this is the story they wrote, they need to stick to it.

I'll read the AV Club synopsis...


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