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The best show on television nobody is watching returns this month. After watching the season 2 finale, I would have to consider that Mads Mikkelsen just *might* be a better "Hannibal" than Anthony Hopkins. Two different takes on the character I know. And Mads has had 26 hours to work with the character rather than the 5 Hopkins had, but I'm in awe how he's killing that role every week.

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I acknowledge Mads Mikkelsen as the one true Hannibal
May 31st 2015
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I hated him at first, but he's totally better than AntHop
May 31st 2015
2
Dude is PRESSED to be friends with Will
Jun 01st 2015
4
Wish I hadn't seen *that one* trailer, but I'm down.
Jun 01st 2015
3
Hannibal: 5 episodes to watch (or rewatch) before season 3 (SWIPE)
Jun 01st 2015
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WIRED Binge-Watching Guide: Hannibal (SWIPE)
Jun 03rd 2015
6
Anybody check the lead-in Aquarius?
Jun 03rd 2015
7
Why you aren't watching Hannibal, and why you should
Jun 04th 2015
8
Looking forward to this
Jun 04th 2015
9
Great beginning
Jun 05th 2015
10
RE: Great beginning
Jun 05th 2015
11
yo
Jun 05th 2015
12
You mean Spock?
Jun 05th 2015
15
Retaliation for The Slap.
Jun 06th 2015
16
For Real!
Jun 07th 2015
18
Bedelia was baptized in the water and came to her senses.
Jun 05th 2015
13
I can't get over how great the art direction, cinematography
Jun 05th 2015
14
Agreed.
Jun 15th 2015
23
A+ Episode
Jun 07th 2015
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This line right here says so much
Jun 07th 2015
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I'm so tense, my back is killing me.
Jun 11th 2015
20
Almost thought she survived another throat cutting
Jun 12th 2015
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me too. I was about ready to call bullshit but then...
Jun 12th 2015
22
Episode 8 is called "The Great Red Dragon."
Jun 15th 2015
24
Episode 3: Secondo
Jun 18th 2015
25
Literally the only episode that has made me genuinely nauseous.
Jun 20th 2015
26
This Season is so Dark. You really have to pay attention.
Jun 21st 2015
27
Cancelled by NBC
Jun 22nd 2015
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iuIZCJEu9a4
Jun 22nd 2015
29
i keep trying but i cannot get into this show
Jul 04th 2015
30
Show comes into its own later
Jul 05th 2015
32
Are they going out of order?
Jul 05th 2015
31
Yeah, Fuller says thinks of it as a "remix"
Jul 21st 2015
36
The past 2 episodes were awesome.
Jul 19th 2015
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Bite the eel by the dozen © Action Bronson/Mason Verger
Jul 20th 2015
34
Because his heir receives the full Verger inheritance
Jul 20th 2015
35
      But who's going to birth it?
Jul 21st 2015
37
Damn, gonna miss this show...
Jul 30th 2015
38
Finale was very good
Sep 05th 2015
39
Might be coming back
Sep 24th 2017
40

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1. "I acknowledge Mads Mikkelsen as the one true Hannibal"
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Been re-watching seasons 1 & 2 these past several days. Thursday can't come quick enough!

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Had Hopkins not done HANNIBAL it'd be close but that film was just such a misstep. Not to mention, Mads has completely taken that role and crafted a brilliantly tortured psychopath. The way he plays his desire for Will's friendship is so fucking next level.

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>The way he plays his desire for Will's friendship is so fucking
>next level.

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I just wanna see them top prosciutto-slicing a bitch and putting her on display. Plus, I love seeing Gillian's "Oh shit, I made a fucking HORRIBLE decision here" face.

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5. "Hannibal: 5 episodes to watch (or rewatch) before season 3 (SWIPE)"
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Hannibal: 5 episodes to watch (or rewatch) before season 3

by Jonathon Dornbush • @jmdornbush

Posted May 29 2015 — 4:15 PM EDT

After two seasons of NBC’s Hannibal, you’ve probably had friends try to convince you to watch, read critics sing its praises, or seen a near-infinite number of GIFs from the show on Tumblr.

All that may finally be enough to convince you that it’s time to watch Bryan Fuller’s beloved adaptation—but with season 3 getting off to a great start this Friday, you’re looking for a crash course in all things Hannibal Lecter and Will Graham.

So if you can’t find the time to watch the first two seasons in full, EW’s here to help with the five episodes you can’t miss from the last two years. (That said, here’s one major caveat: If you have the time, you should absolutely watch both seasons, currently currently streaming on Amazon Instant Video. You can brush up on the basics and understand the gist of the show so far by watching just these vital episodes, but you’d be doing yourself a disservice by not watching two incredible seasons of television in full.)

With that in mind, here are the five episodes of Hannibal you have to see before the season 3 premiere.

“Apéritif” (Season 1, Episode 1)
It may seem like a given, but the pilot of Hannibal is important for so many reasons—and not just because it’s where everything begins. From minute one, David Slade’s direction establishes the show’s dazzling visuals and knack for finding beauty in the most horrific of scenes. And Bryan Fuller’s script, combined with Mads Mikkelsen’s performance, immediately differentiates this memorable incarnation of Hannibal Lecter from Anthony Hopkins’ Oscar-winning portrayal, even as it fills out his world with a number of other fascinating faces. Chief among them is Will Graham, who gives Hannibal a truly worthy opponent, enemy, and friend.

“Entrée“ (Season 1, Episode 6)
Will and Hannibal may receive most of the adoration heaped on Hannibal’s cast—but the show has also created a consistently rich well of supporting characters, if not one that’s particularly deep. One of the most memorable is Eddie Izzard’s Dr. Abel Gideon, an instrumental figure in the back-and-forth of the show’s central relationship. “Entrée” introduces not only Gideon, but also Anna Chlumsky as Miriam Lass, a Clarice Starling-esque character who plays a brief but important role in the series’ ongoing mythology. Both characters are essential to understanding the mind games—and deadly physical games—being played amaong Will, Hannibal, and Jack Crawford.

“Kaiseki“ (Season 2, Episode 1)
Season 2’s first episode could have played it safe by picking up from where season 1 ended, immediately showing us Will’s new life behind bars. Instead, it opens up with a bare-knuckle brawl between Hannibal and Jack Crawford. No explanation is given, and the show backtracks to weeks earlier, leaving this gripping but enigmatic fight unresolved for the entire season. “Kaiseki” continues to upend expectations, almost soft rebooting the show as Hannibal and Will explore their new roles.

“Yakimono” (Season 2, Episode 7)
In many ways, season 2 could have ended with “Yakimono” and still delivered a satisfying conclusion. The midway point of the season is an important bookend to “Entrée,” bringing Miriam back into the fold after viewers assumed her fate had long ago been decided. “Yakimono” is Hannibal dealing with the fragility of its characters’ mental states, from Miriam’s fraught condition to a haunting scene at Dr. Frederick Chilton’s house. The episode exemplifies Hannibal’s deft handling of narrative—picking up threads long-forgotten and offering a fitting end while maintaining momentum for the main arc.

“Mizumono“ (Season 2, Episode 13
There’s a reason EW named “Mizumono” one of the most tense, anxiety-inducing hours ever aired on television: This season finale is Hannibal firing on all cylinders. Every facet of the show is running at its peak, from the performances to the soundtrack (which practically never ceases) to the gorgeous final sequence, which brings harrowing conclusions to plots that have lingered since season 1. “Mizumono” leaves every major character’s fate up in the air, capping off an hour that encapsulates everything beautiful, horrifying, engrossing, and powerful about Hannibal.

​Hannibal’s third season premieres this Friday on NBC. For more, read EW’s review of the premiere and hear from Bryan Fuller about one of his most important rules for the show.

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6. "WIRED Binge-Watching Guide: Hannibal (SWIPE)"
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WIRED BINGE-WATCHING GUIDE: HANNIBAL

AS ONE OF only three films to win the five major Oscar categories (Picture, Director, Actor, Actress, Screenplay), Jonathan Demme’s adaptation of The Silence of the Lambs remains an indelible story that defies easy genre classification. It has terrifying suspense and grisly horror, but also the thrill of a detective story. The film cemented Hannibal Lecter as one of the most memorable screen characters of all time. And for two decades, the role was inextricably linked to Anthony Hopkins, who was the only man to sufficiently bring the alluring air of European sophistication to the cannibal psychiatrist.

So when it was announced Bryan Fuller, creator of Dead Like Me and Pushing Daisies, was creating an NBC adaptation of Thomas Harris’ Hannibal Lecter novels, it seemed like another attempt to dredge up an existing character to attract an audience. But when the show debuted in the spring of 2013, it shocked pretty much everyone—not because it was the best Hannibal Lecter-related story since Silence, but because it’s one of the most deeply unsettling crime stories to ever air on broadcast television. Every element, from impeccable casting and impactful writing to gorgeous cinematography and Brian Reitzell’s hauntingly ever-present score, works in concert to create one of the most aesthetically satisfying television shows in years.

And it’s hard to discount just how graphic the show can be, even in an era where gritty, boundary-pushing violence is the norm on SVU, The Following, or any number of other murder investigation shows. When Hannibal depicts an exquisite corpse, it does not mean the surrealist writing game—it means the literal definition. But unlike the deluge of torture porn or extreme horror films that keep pushing the envelope of violence purely to shock and dismay audiences, Hannibal‘s mantra, “this is my design,” helps ground all of the grotesque tableaus with thematic purpose. There is a method to every bit of madness, whether it comes in the form of murder-scene-as-installation-art or a meticulously crafted dinner recipe.

The show’s third season debuts on NBC tomorrow, so here’s how to catch up in order to get on board with the show as it scares the hell out of everyone this summer.

Hannibal
Number of Seasons: 2 (26 episodes)

Time Requirements: At 26 episodes and just under 20 hours, it’s possible to devote a day to each season and catch up in a weekend. But if that’s too much traumatizing content to take in at one time, you could watch two episodes every other day and catch up in time to watch the first episodes of the third season before they expire on Hulu and be caught up for the rest of the season.

Where to Get Your Fix: Amazon Prime

Best Character to Follow:

It’s right there in the title of the show: Hannibal. Danish actor Mads Mikkelsen (Le Chiffre from Casino Royale) imbues Lecter with every bit of the threatening but transfixing gravitas Hopkins brought to the role and more, since he gets to explore the pre-incarceration days.

Fuller has stated that the impetus for the show was to examine Lecter as he hadn’t been seen before—as a practicing forensic psychiatrist before he was incarcerated by the FBI, between the rightly-ignored Hannibal Rising origin story and Silence. That allows Fuller and his staff to develop Lecter’s relationships with unstable criminal profiler Will Graham (Hugh Dancy), FBI Special Agent-In-Charge Jack Crawford (Laurence Fishburne), and former student-turned-professor and FBI consultant Alana Bloom (Caroline Dhavernas).

The fear with shows about seemingly superhuman serial killers (ahem, Dexter) is that they need to keep backing the criminal into a corner like a dangerous animal, and using blind violence to get them out of impossible situations. Hannibal has so far evaded that particular weakness by treating Lecter’s invisibility to his coworkers as paramount until absolutely necessary. Whenever anyone comes close, be they a colleague, a victim, or a stranger, there’s a sense that this version of Lecter has created an elaborate interlocking puzzle that only he can control. Mikkelsen’s ability to convey the wheels turning inside Lecter’s head, and how he appears to be a few steps ahead at all times, is one of the show’s greatest assets.

Seasons/Episodes You Can Skip:

With only 26 episodes, there aren’t too many to skip, but there’s one wrinkle to discuss about Hannibal‘s first season.

Season 1: Episode 4, “Œuf” In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings, as well as the Sandy Hook school shooting, NBC pulled this episode, where the case-of-the-week involved a mysterious mother (Molly Shannon) influencing young boys to kill their families. The episode was turned into webisodes online in order to paper over any continuity gaps in the first season—but NBC also aired a few episodes of the first season out of order. If this episode wasn’t now available to stream in full, and was still only available in piecemeal fashion, it would be perhaps the only episode that truly isn’t required for understanding the larger narrative arc of the series.

Seasons/Episodes You Can’t Skip:

Let’s stipulate off the bat that aside from the one technically unaired first season episode, everything in the first two seasons shouldn’t be skipped. Having said that, here are a handful of the many highlights from the past two seasons. Also, for great insight into how Fuller and the whole production team crafted these seasons, look to Todd VanDerWerff’s excellent Walkthrough interviews over at The A.V. Club, which cover the first season in chunks, and then each episode of the second season.

Season 1: Episode 1, “Apéritif” It’s the pilot, and a surprisingly strong one at that, waiting to introduce Mikkelsen’s Lecter until well into the episode, instead choosing to establish Will Graham as a brilliant criminologist teetering on the edge of sanity for his preternatural abilities to get inside the minds of the most horrifying murderers. The first time the show depicts Graham’s re-enactments is the first of many breathtaking stylistic flourishes that became Hannibal’s calling cards.

Season 1: Episode 2, “Amuse-Bouche” The first season begins to take shape not only as a game of cat and mouse between Will and Hannibal, but as a tug-of-war for Abigail Hobbes, the daughter of the serial killer Will shoots dead in the pilot. His post-traumatic stress and strong paternal instincts are what drive him to seek Hannibal’s treatment, which also tragically lead him to unravel when he’s at the mercy of such a manipulative monster fascinated by another gifted mind.

Season 1: Episode 5, “Coquilles” In a season full of disgustingly beautiful images, perhaps the most haunting is that of the Angelmaker’s victims’, with the flesh of their backs strung up to the ceiling to imitate angels’ wings. “Coquilles” also introduces the always-incredible Gina Torres (Firefly, Suits) as Jack Crawford’s wife, who becomes Dr. Lecter’s patient and struggles with how to tell her husband about a terminal cancer diagnosis.

Season 1: Episode 6, “Entrée” Whoever does the casting for Hannibal deserves multiple awards for this episode alone. In it Eddie Izzard plays incarcerated murderer Abel Gideon, who attempts to take credit for Hannibal’s murders as the Chesapeake Ripper, Raul Esparza plays Dr. Frederick Chilton, a character played by Anthony Heald in Silence, and Anna Chlumsky portrays Jack Crawford’s previous protégé at the FBI who disappeared without a trace.

Season 1: Episode 8, “Fromage” Serial killer shows often try a variation on the team-up plot where one murderer seeks companionship with another. But Hannibal is a lone wolf, and here he rejects the man who turned a classical musician into a human cello (another nauseating image), which leads to the first serial killer showdown fight scene in one of the most exciting episodes of the debut season.

Season 1: Episode 9, “Trou Normand” Each episode of Hannibal‘s first season ramps up the violence, but a totem pole on a beach composed of human bodies ranging from freshly-killed to decades-old is the most severely unsettling visual the show has ever conjured. It’s also the second appearance of Gillian Anderson as Bedelia Du Maurier, Hannibal’s own psychiatrist.

Season 1: Episode 10, “Buffet Froid” Bryan Fuller loves to bring back actors he’s worked with before—just look at Caroline Dhavernas returning to the fold from Wonderfalls. Here, Ellen Muth, Fuller’s leading lady from Dead Like Me, returns to play Georgia Madchen (a variation on George Lass from that previous show), a woman suffering from Cotard’s Syndrome who believes she is actually dead and cannot recognize faces.

Season 1: Episode 13, “Savoreux” The season-long story of Hannibal‘s first season is how Dr. Lecter incrementally pulls Will Graham under his influence, believing he has found a like-minded friend and intellectual equal, but still giving into his murderous predilections. The grand twist here—which surrounds Will with visual cues that audiences have associated with an incarcerated Hannibal Lecter for decades—is one of the best-executed in a modern crime show. The psychological torture and hallucinogenic cinematography all comes together in a macabre symphony that leaves Will trapped, with little possibility of escape.

Season 2: Episode 1, “Kaiseki” Starting the season with Will in the Baltimore State Hospital for the Criminally Insane and Hannibal aiding the FBI in murder investigations is quite the inversion from what was expected when this retelling debuted. But Fuller gave a glimpse at where the show was heading with a flash-forward prologue that pitted Hannibal and Jack Crawford against each other in a brutal fight scene. That taste of things to come set the entire season on edge.

Season 2: Episode 3, “Hassun” The trial of Will Graham, prosecuted by Kade Prurnell (Cynthia Nixon) doesn’t get off to a great start. Evidence mounts that the real Chesapeake Ripper is still on the loose, and then the bailiff and judge in the case are murdered and displayed in increasingly symbolic grotesquery. This episode is one of the good examples of how the show complicates Hannibal’s character by making him indecisive. He cares too much for Will to let him take the fall for so many crimes, and he lashes out in his anger for putting a friend in that position by striking down those in the justice system too blind to see what Will sees in the evidence.

Season 2: Episode 5, “Mukozuke” Beverly Katz (Hettienne Park) was one of the best original characters created for the show, able to throw Will Graham for a loop with morbid observations, so doubtful of Will’s guilt that she continues to ask him for help on case work, and skillful enough to uncover a trail that led to Hannibal Lecter’s murder chamber. But it sadly brings about her demise. Another great deviation from Harris’ books is casting muckraking journalist Freddie Lounds (Lara Jean Chorostecki) as a woman—in this episode the one who discovers Beverly’s remains, displayed in vertical slices like a Bodies exhibit. From prison, Will is able to manipulate an orderly much in the way Hannibal manipulates him—leading to a violent confrontation where a still-clueless Jack Crawford barely saves Hannibal.

Season 2: Episode 7, “Yakimono” Hannibal knows exactly when to bring back long-forgotten guest stars, and the re-emergence of Anna Chlumsky’s Miriam Lass is just the thing to send Jack Crawford into fits. It’s also another virtuosic episode for Hannibal’s ability to evade suspicion while casting aspersions on another character. Instead of following Harris’ novels to the letter, Dr. Chilton doesn’t make it to the Silence of the Lambs installment of this storyline.

Season 2: Episode 12, “Tome-wan” Other than the incarceration, trial, and release of Will Graham, the second season—which follows the order of courses in a Japanese Kaiseki meal—has one other big storyline: the tense sibling relationship between Margot and Mason (Michael Pitt) Verger, which is the origin of Gary Oldman’s character in Ridley Scott’s Hannibal. In this version, Margot and Will have a tempestuous relationship and Mason exacts sadistic violence upon his sister when she experiences even the slightest happiness—and worst of all, the heir to a porcine fortune offends Hannibal Lecter. The film version of this story is graphic, but in this episode, it’s perhaps one of the most viscerally upsetting scenes on television. Michael Pitt going on a drug trip and slicing up his visage is gross even when it’s barely suggested, but after a commercial break, when Will happens upon what Hannibal has coerced Mason to do for Will’s dogs, it’s a truly shocking ending.

Season 2: Episode 13, “Mizumono” With the prologue tease, there’s a dramatic weight hanging over the second season of Hannibal to make everything worth the anticipation. But “Mizumono” delivers in every respect, bringing together a fake death long-con involving Freddie Lounds, the surprise re-appearance of another presumed victim of the Chesapeake Ripper who has ties to both Hannibal and Will Graham, and an ending so full of bodies it would satisfy a Shakespeare tragedy. It’s such a bloodbath that it left a pall over whether or not so many of the beloved cast members could even return for a third season.

Why You Should Binge:
So many episodes of Hannibal back-to-back will be psychologically punishing. It’s tough to sit through so many brutally violent images and be thrown off-kilter by the hallucinogenic sequences taking place in Will’s mind or from his perspective. But American television so rarely takes advantage of the 13-episode season as well as Fuller has with Hannibal, crafting sealed installments that reward viewers on an episodic and overarching level. The abbreviated (for American television) seasons play into the idea of modern serialized drama as novelistic storytelling. The first season is an introductory novel that digs into each character and makes the audience care about them before ending in a cliffhanger, while the follow-up season deepens the conflict between everyone, goes for bigger set pieces, and ultimately blows up the show’s structure in order to let the mastermind killer on the loose on the world. An onslaught of the visual extravaganza is like one of Hannibal’s meticulously crafted dinner parties—overstuffed, but dangerously delicious.

Best Scene— “I Gave You a Rare Gift, But You Didn’t Want It”:
Everything in Hannibal’s first two seasons builds the second season finale, where a bleeding, broken Will Graham lies on the ground of Hannibal’s kitchen, and the tragic love story between them is laid bare. Hannibal’s sadness is profound in its horror, and how the show picks up the pieces in the third season as it irrevocably shifts format will be fascinating to watch.



The Takeaway:
Sometimes it’s best just to let a proven creative talent have another shot at revamping a well-known character, whether it’s the endlessly copied Sherlock Holmes or Hannibal Lecter.

If You Liked Hannibal You’ll Love:
It’s diametrically opposed to the violence of Hannibal, but Fuller’s previous series Pushing Daisies still has a wonderful fascination with death, just like Dead Like Me.

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Ahsoka Season 1 (Disney

  

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The double premiere was pretty cool. Didn't see a poast about it.

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Why you aren't watching Hannibal, and why you should

Entertainment Geekly: We know you're suspicious. Don't be.

by Darren Franich • @DarrenFranich

Posted June 4 2015 — 3:09 PM EDT

I didn’t watch Hannibal until the second season was already over, which means I almost didn’t watch Hannibal. NBC’s cannibal-killer reboot had low ratings in a Friday death slot on NBC, which meant that season 3 was never a sure thing. It could’ve faded into history, another short-lived curio I promise I’ll get around to eventually. (Someday I’ll watch Crime Story. Someday.)


But now here’s Hannibal season 3, starting tonight on NBC (and then living forever on the internet, where you’ll actually watch it.) For me, season 3 is the moment of truth for beloved TV shows that I haven’t watched yet. Will I spend valuable viewing time binging the first two seasons? Or will I make peace with the fact that I will probably never watch the TV show?

The stakes are high. Right before Parks & Recreation started its third season, I took the advice of everyone in the the EW sitcom work-family and watched the first two. Parks & Recreation became one of the central transcendent peaks of my pop culture life. Right before The Good Wife started its third season, I caught a random episode on a plane, thought it was great…and then never followed up. Missing The Good Wife has become one of the central voids in my pop culture life. Meanwhile, I watched all of Boardwalk Empire. You have to live with every decision, good or bad.

So I understand. You’re not sure about Hannibal, no matter how much certain people keep insisting that you’ll enjoy it. Keith Staskiewicz, close friend and learned colleague, spent a year telling me that Hannibal was great. The more he insisted that I would love it, the more I mentally decided I probably wouldn’t love it. “Who needs Hannibal?” I told myself. “I’ve got Orphan Black!” Then Orphan Black had a second season, and I started wondering if Staskiewicz was maybe onto something.

So I watched Hannibal’s first two seasons. Loved them. Have seen the first three episodes of season 3. Love them. Want you to experience them. But I know why you’re skeptical. Let me answer all your concerns, one by one:

It’s another serial killer show, and I’m tired of serial killer shows.
This was my main concern. Hannibal debuted concurrent to The Following and Bates Motel, right before the end of Dexter. It looks in hindsight like a brief zeitgeist hiccup—serial killers were the superheroes of 2013—but it led into the more experimental serial-murder odysseys True Detective and Fargo.

There was a point in my life where I loved serial killer stories. I still laugh out loud during Natural Born Killers and American Psycho. But the new wave of serial killer shows mostly takes cues from Seven, David Fincher’s riff on The Nature Of Evil and the last time an audience could feel bad for a character played by Gwyneth Paltrow. Seven still holds up, but its pretenders just feel depressing. Not to be a prude, but there’s a weird moral thing that comes into play with a show like The Following: It starts to feel a little inhuman to enjoy something that so freely uses dead people for shock value.

Hannibal steers right into that skid. This is another show where the bad guy is lovable. Mads Mikkelsen as Hannibal is like Patricia Highsmith’s Tom Ripley or Alex from A Clockwork Orange. Snazzy fashion, great taste, and a couple choice witticisms can forgive any murder. But Hannibal is also a show that digs into why a serial killer can be so lovable. The show begins with Will Graham (Hugh Dancy), a brilliant investigative mind who is also an audience surrogate. When we first meet Will, he’s a smart but fragile person who really doesn’t want to get into crimesolving and would prefer, all in all, to not spend his days hunting serial killers. (He’s sick of serial killers, just like us.)

If this sounds helplessly meta—a serial killer show about serial killer shows!—understand that Hannibal also glories in the tropes of serial killer mythology. The first season’s episodes follow a Seven-of-the-Week: each hour has a new murderer with a new outré fixation. (One killer, a musician, turns a corpse into a giant cello. That is maybe the third-craziest corpse in Hannibal season 1.)

It sounds gross.

This will sound ludicrous, given that I just used the phrase “turns a corpse into a giant cello”—but the violence on Hannibal will bug you less than the violence on most TV shows. That’s at least in part because so much of the violence is implied rather than shown. There’s a moment in season 2 when one of the show’s lead characters gets killed—and by “gets killed,” I mean “gets discovered chopped into six vertical pieces, meat and bone showing through glass displays.”

But the show doesn’t actually show the process of her death and dismemberment—by the time the characters find her, she’s already on display. Because Hannibal is on a broadcast network, it can’t go full Hostel. So the show’s treatment of death is more complicated. Murder on Hannibal is an act of self-expression, even artistry. In a weird way, the corpses on Hannibal function like the advertisements on Mad Men: a stylish method for the characters to articulate what they want, or what they think they need.

It helps that the show looks beautiful. The show’s central joke is that it shoots Hannibal’s human-food feasts like a Food & Wine photo shoot: You can’t help but laugh, whether you’re an artisanal food-snoot or somebody who hates artisanal food-snoots.

I only like watching serialized TV shows. This sounds like Castle, but Nathan Fillion is a Danish cannibal and Beckett is the guy from Confessions of a Shopaholic.

Hannibal starts off as a criminal procedural, in the specific subgenre of “Procedural Where Crimesolvers Get Paired With Smart Wacky Scientist/Former Criminal/Supernatural Being/Nathan Fillion.” (See also: Bones, The Blacklist, Sleepy Hollow, the upcoming Lucifer where Satan joins the LAPD.)

The first season adopts a rough case-of-the-week structure, and the show quickly builds up a background supporting cast of CSI types. (Kid in the Hall Scott Thompson fills the role of “funny guy bringing moments of lighthearted banter to bleak procedural.”) Again, Hannibal succeeds by simultaneously subverting your expectations and over-delivering on them. There’s a procedural formula to the first season of Hannibal, but it’s much trickier than the typical procedural. Will Graham is finding killers with the help of Hannibal—and Hannibal might be helping the serial killers, or helping Will, or just moving chesspieces around to amuse himself.

Imagine if you could airdrop Gus Fring into the middle of a season of Law & Order: SVU. Or imagine if Bones was still Bones, but at random times throughout the season, it cut away to Emily Deschanel listening to Vivaldi and feeding that week’s guest star his own leg. Actually, just go watch Too Many Cooks, and see how the weird bearded guy starts appearing in the background, gradually turning a wacky family show into a grotesque horror comedy. That is the rough vibe you get from Hannibal’s first 13 episodes.

It’s important to point out that this is not what Hannibal is now. As Hannibal showrunner Bryan Fuller explains to my colleague James Hibberd, the crime procedural elements were intended as a “gateway drug..to facilitate not only the network’s comfort level, but also a sense of familiarity for the audience in terms of how we were telling stories.” Season 2 evolves into something you could call a “serialized crime drama.” Season 3 is, like, a tone poem about life in hell.

So what you’re saying is that it only gets really good in season 2? I don’t have time for this. I’m already watching season 1 of Halt and Catch Fire.

Hannibal now is very different from what Hannibal was. But it’s important to explain that this isn’t a Fringe thing, where a decent-but-kinda-boring show suddenly becomes an excellent show by ditching bland structural and narrative elements. To a certain extent, Hannibal underscores how words like “serialized” and “procedural” don’t really have much meaning.

Season 1 episodes usually have a new killer each week, but they also further running storylines and character dynamics established in the pilot episode. Seemingly throwaway events reap intense and incredible payoffs later in the season. Example: The Hannibal pilot ends with Will Graham killing a bad guy—something that most TV cops do at least once a week. But everything that follows on the show follows from that killing: how it changes Will, how it affects his relationships, how it deepens Hannibal’s fascination with him (and vice versa.)

The narrative of Hannibal is a tiny snowball rolling down a mountain. The mountain is very high; by the start of season 3, the snowball has become an ice age. Actually, you could sort of compare it to Game of Thrones, which started off with episodes that gradually/patiently/maybe-a-bit-boringly set up a couple hundred character arcs—careful setup which paid off gradually and then suddenly and then consistently. And unlike Game of Thrones, Hannibal never really slows down once it gets going.

Hannibal Lecter, again? Aren’t there any original ideas?
This was the main, easy gripe against Hannibal when it was originally greenlit, and I would imagine it’s a big reason why plenty of smart, learned cultural types have stayed away from the show. Hannibal Lecter as a character has inspired much good and much bad—but the bad stuff is a lot more recent, and unpopular to the point of irrelevance.

But here again, Hannibal turns a bug into a feature. Because nobody was particularly screaming for a Hannibal Lecter reboot, the show freely cherry-picks aspects of the mythology and ignores the others. Mikkelsen isn’t doing Anthony Hopkins’ Lecter. The show’s visual style pays homage to previous onscreen iterations—but it’s also much dreamier than any of the Lecter films. (Fuller has pointed to David Lynch as an influence.)

As a reboot/remake/whatever, Hannibal actually feels more like what Alan Moore and Frank Miller were doing to superhero comics in the ’80s: honoring the mythology while rewriting it, taking some of the most ridiculous elements completely seriously. This means it’s enjoyable for newcomers, but possibly even more so for people who know the Hannibal saga and would like to see someone come in and try to make sense of it. The new season plunges deep into some of the less-beloved parts of the series—it’s a riff on Harris’ controversial Silence of the Lambs sequel, which also nods toward the outright ludicrous Hannibal Rising—and finds all manner of dark weird beauty and real emotional resonance.

In conclusion: Gillian Anderson.

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9. "Looking forward to this"
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There's no reason a Hannibal Lecter TV show should even exist, let alone be the best drama on network TV. But the first two seasons have been so damn good.

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10. "Great beginning"
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Going into it, I was expecting Bedelia to have been enjoying her ride as Mrs. Lecter. But nope. She's clearly only staying with him to stay alive. I don't think this is going to end well for her (or anyone else).

  

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11. "RE: Great beginning"
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>Going into it, I was expecting Bedelia to have been enjoying
>her ride as Mrs. Lecter. But nope. She's clearly only
>staying with him to stay alive. I don't think this is going
>to end well for her (or anyone else).

Hell yeah. She had the "scared baby" face all night. Anyone else would be avoiding security cameras, but she was looking right at that bitch like "PLEEEASE COME FUCKING GET ME". You know your ass is a wrap if he slightly changes his mind on how he feels about you.

I wanna know how she got her arm down a dude's throat.

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12. "yo"
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>I wanna know how she got her arm down a dude's throat

She was past the elbow, how the hell - they gotta flash back to that again

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15. "You mean Spock?"
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>I wanna know how she got her arm down a dude's throat.

Anyone else notice it was Zachary Quinto?

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16. "Retaliation for The Slap."
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18. "For Real!"
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>
>Hell yeah. She had the "scared baby" face all night. Anyone
>else would be avoiding security cameras, but she was looking
>right at that bitch like "PLEEEASE COME FUCKING GET ME". You
>know your ass is a wrap if he slightly changes his mind on how
>he feels about you.

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13. "Bedelia was baptized in the water and came to her senses. "
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14. "I can't get over how great the art direction, cinematography "
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and lighting is on this show.

So, so good.

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23. "Agreed."
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Art direction and visuals have always been top-notch, but it seems like they stepped it up even further now that they are in Italy.

Seeing them in Italy kind of emphasizes that the vast majority of the show took place in only a few settings in Season 1 and 2. Shit, half of it was in Hannibal's office and dining room.

  

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17. "A+ Episode"
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I really didn't expect them to focus entirely on Hannibal. I thought we would get an update on everyone else from last season.

But this episode had some quotes man!

Hannibal: "I've found a peace here I would preserve. I've killed hardly anybody during our residence."

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Bedelia: "My husband has a very sophisticated palate. He's very particular about how I taste."

Anthony: "Is it that kind of party?"

Hannibal: "It's not that kind of party."

Bedelia: "No, it really isn't."

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Anthony: "You overestimate my affection for the genuine Dr. Fell. Clearly you found him as distasteful as I did."

Hannibal: "On the contrary."

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Hannibal: "This isn't cannibalism Abel. It's only cannibalism if we're equals."

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19. "This line right here says so much"
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>Hannibal: "This isn't cannibalism Abel. It's only cannibalism
>if we're equals."

And explains everything about his fascination with Will Graham. Because he sees Will as an equal.

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20. "I'm so tense, my back is killing me."
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They made us relive that shit.

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21. "Almost thought she survived another throat cutting"
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It can be tough to keep the hallucinations straight on this show.

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22. "me too. I was about ready to call bullshit but then..."
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her throat started bleeding.

  

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24. "Episode 8 is called "The Great Red Dragon.""
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25. "Episode 3: Secondo"
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I'm not feeling the "artsy fartsy" direction of these first three episodes. It's been a chore to get through them. The stuff with Hannibal and Bedelia has been great but the general direction has been too pretentious and esoteric for my tastes. Hopefully the narrative becomes more straight forward in the future.

My favorite quotes of the week:

Hannibal: "It *was* a little impulsive."

Bedelia: "You were holding that impulse in ever since you decided to serve "Punch Romaine"."



Bedelia: "Two men from the Capponi are dead."

Hannibal: "I can only claim one. Technically."

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26. "Literally the only episode that has made me genuinely nauseous."
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Jammed that shit in his head and he had no idea.

-It was good to see Mr. Fishburne show up. But, that means all of them are left alive with the horror of that night.

-I was sure Bedelia was in prime neck snap territory when she asked how Mischa tasted.

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27. "This Season is so Dark. You really have to pay attention. "
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28. "Cancelled by NBC"
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I'd assume that Amazon or someone would pick it up, especially with the co-financing deal.

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29. "https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iuIZCJEu9a4"
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iuIZCJEu9a4

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30. "i keep trying but i cannot get into this show"
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made it through the first season. every episode was a struggle

i love how the show looks. it's beautifully shot. the imagery is fantastic and quite shocking, considering this was on a major network. mikkelson is really good, too. i can see why he's getting so much praise for this role. but the show is so melodramatic. you can feel the british theater influence seeping out of the screen. hugh dancy's acting is completely over the top at times. i guess that's intentional as it complements mikkelson's more subtle style but it's still very distracting. the rest of the cast ranges from poor to adequate. the pacing of the show doesn't sit well with me either. solving a different serial killer case every week is ludicrous. it takes me out of the show completely. i guess i'm used to more long-form storytelling in my tv shows

does the show change all? does it ever adapt a less episodic format? i want out of this show is for hannibal to interact with different people. the final episodes of the season seemed promising as it seemed like the audience was getting a few more windows into the real hannibal

  

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32. "Show comes into its own later"
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S2 begins to lose the killer-a-week format and ends completely out of it. S3 is much more focused on a main narrative. It can definitely feel like a murder soap sometimes, but the highs are some of the most rewarding on TV if you can get past some of the more heavy-handed moments of acting, dialogue and imagery. Those great moments really have me forgive any qualms and I just end up loving the show.

  

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31. "Are they going out of order?"
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I thought the events from the movie "Hannibal" were after the ones from "Red Dragon". Different storytelling, I guess, but that was a confusing point.

I was hoping they'd kill Pazzi the way they did in the movie. That was cool to see before Jack whomped on Hannibal.

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36. "Yeah, Fuller says thinks of it as a "remix""
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Taking different events from the Hannibal mythos and rearranging them chronologically.

  

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Moving this shit to Saturday at 10 is the ultimate insult.

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34. "Bite the eel by the dozen © Action Bronson/Mason Verger"
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I was a little confused with what they were going to do with his sperm, though. Is his sister going to use it? Give it to Alana? Why would either of them want to keep his genetics alive?

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35. "Because his heir receives the full Verger inheritance "
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37. "But who's going to birth it?"
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38. "Damn, gonna miss this show..."
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Finally caught up after being out of the country. Love everything about it.

  

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39. "Finale was very good"
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I don't think it works as a conclusion to the whole series like some claimed but Fuller seems fairly confident that it'll continue as a movie or miniseries at some point.

  

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40. "Might be coming back"
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http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/19/hannibal-bryan-fuller-possible-new-season/

  

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