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bwood
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"Black Mass (Scott Cooper, 2015)"
Thu Apr-23-15 05:26 PM by bwood

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWsbqshD5TE

This shit looks so fucking gangster!!!! Johnny Depp back in Donnie Brasco territory.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Those blue eyes look kinda ridiculous.
Apr 23rd 2015
1
The whole prosthetic looks ridiculous
Apr 23rd 2015
2
Great trailer
Apr 24th 2015
3
the rick ross track worked perfectly in the trailer
Sep 12th 2015
12
did a chill just come over me while watching that..
Apr 25th 2015
4
johnny depp always comes off as somebody being played by johnny depp.
Apr 25th 2015
5
Looks good. Depp needed this movie BAD.
Apr 26th 2015
6
this looks GOOD
Apr 27th 2015
7
Fan of the book, so I'll probably check it out
Apr 27th 2015
8
Chances of this being legitimately good are not high...
Apr 27th 2015
9
This is good. Scott Cooper actually made a movie I liked. More later
Sep 10th 2015
10
So like I said this is good. Johnny Depp back.
Sep 11th 2015
11
      RE: So like I said this is good. Johnny Depp back.
Sep 27th 2015
23
Should've cast Depp over Jack in The Departed & skipped this
Sep 18th 2015
13
agreed, edgerton was also good
Sep 18th 2015
14
I didn't dig Edge as much as usual in this. Still need to see The Gift.
Sep 18th 2015
15
wasnt Departed only partially based on Whitey?
Sep 20th 2015
17
      Yeah but it's basically a better Black Mass
Sep 21st 2015
19
Surprisingly lackluster.
Sep 19th 2015
16
It is worth seeing for Depp alone
Sep 20th 2015
18
Movie felt too much like a procedural....
Sep 24th 2015
20
Not a good movie. It's a lifeless wax statue.
Sep 25th 2015
21
Yep. A shame that this was the Bulger movie to be made
Dec 21st 2015
24
Agreed.
Dec 21st 2015
25
it was decent. not great
Sep 26th 2015
22

Ryan M
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1. "Those blue eyes look kinda ridiculous."
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2. "The whole prosthetic looks ridiculous"
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I know he's got his own guy, but maybe the two of them should see other people.

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3. "Great trailer"
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12. "the rick ross track worked perfectly in the trailer"
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4. "did a chill just come over me while watching that.."
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*ahem*,...goood shit.

  

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5. "johnny depp always comes off as somebody being played by johnny depp."
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for some reason its hard for me to lose sight of the actor
and buy into the character.

the hair, eyes, and voice seem like glaring ornaments.

  

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6. "Looks good. Depp needed this movie BAD. "
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About time he got back to some shit like this. Mordecai had to be rock bottom.

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7. "this looks GOOD"
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8. "Fan of the book, so I'll probably check it out"
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Not a huge fan of him doing his George Jung Bah-stin accent again, but this still looks promising.

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9. "Chances of this being legitimately good are not high..."
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Mon Apr-27-15 02:12 PM by The Analyst

  

          

I'll see it because I'm from the Boston area and shitty crime movies like this are kind of my guilty pleasure genre, but I'm giving less than 50-50 odds that it's actually good.

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bwood
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10. "This is good. Scott Cooper actually made a movie I liked. More later"
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11. "So like I said this is good. Johnny Depp back."
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Fri Sep-11-15 08:29 AM by bwood

          

Depp is actually super menacing throughout this film b. The scenes of intimidation are more cold than the scenes of violence. He might be getting a Best Actor nom b.

But, my nigga Joel Edgerton will mos def be getting that Best Supporting Actor nom. He put his foot into his role as Agent Connolly b.

Jessie Plemmons aka Landry does great work here. As does Corey Stoll, Dakota Johnson and Peter Sarsgaard do incredible work in very minor roles. Benedict Cumberbatch's Boston accent was a bit cartoony but he did well with his small role as well.

Scott Cooper and his DP made this movie pop throughout and visually, it was always interesting. As a matter of fact this is Cooper's best film and it probably has to do with the fact that he didn't write it.

But yea will see how Awards Season goes as this could be a major player or a minor player depending on how strong the rest of the films are.

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23. "RE: So like I said this is good. Johnny Depp back."
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>Depp is actually super menacing throughout this film b. The
>scenes of intimidation are more cold than the scenes of
>violence. He might be getting a Best Actor nom b.

he gets a nom for putting on all that makeup and that accent. But, he'll lose to an actor who has a role with WAY more depth (Michael Fassbender in Macbeth and Leonardo DiCaprio in The Revenant STOMP all over Depp's performance just by name ALONE though....)

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>But, my nigga Joel Edgerton will mos def be getting that Best
>Supporting Actor nom. He put his foot into his role as Agent
>Connolly b.

Joel was the *BEST* thing about the movie.

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>Jessie Plemmons aka Landry does great work here. As does Corey
>Stoll, Dakota Johnson and Peter Sarsgaard do incredible work
>in very minor roles. Benedict Cumberbatch's Boston accent was
>a bit cartoony but he did well with his small role as well.

Agreed on all this. Julianne Nicholson was pretty good as well in her brief ass role as Joel's wife Marianne...
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>Scott Cooper and his DP made this movie pop throughout and
>visually, it was always interesting. As a matter of fact this
>is Cooper's best film and it probably has to do with the fact
>that he didn't write it.
>
>But yea will see how Awards Season goes as this could be a
>major player or a minor player depending on how strong the
>rest of the films are.
>

Scott Cooper is a hack ass writer/director: That shitty ass rewrite he did of Brad Ingelsby's The Low Dweller which turned into Out of the Furnace.

Like I don't give naaan a shit that they shot it in shitty ass Braddock, PA the movie was trash....

But Scott might be best directing OTHER people's screenplays because his writing is horrible.

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13. "Should've cast Depp over Jack in The Departed & skipped this"
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He's good, scary good...can't say the same for the rest of the movie tho

Basically skims the surface & wastes most of the ensemble

Thankfully Depp finally brings his A game again to make it worth watching

Standout scene was the bbq @ Connolly's crib

  

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14. "agreed, edgerton was also good"
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the cinematography was solid too

  

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15. "I didn't dig Edge as much as usual in this. Still need to see The Gift."
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Outside of his interrogation scene w/ Sars I kept waiting/needed for him to share scenes w/ Depp to keep my interest

Thinking back on some of the trailers now I wonder how much stuff got left out

Cumberbatch could've been cut completely & wouldn't have been missed

  

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17. "wasnt Departed only partially based on Whitey? "
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That movie was a remake of a Japanese movie


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19. "Yeah but it's basically a better Black Mass"
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>That movie was a remake of a Japanese movie

& that was better than The Departed...partly because of Jack hammin it up too much

  

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16. "Surprisingly lackluster."
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The trailer hooked me enough to see it day 1, but the whole movie I was waiting for some 'rising action'. Why tell us he took over and not show it?

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18. "It is worth seeing for Depp alone"
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The rest of the movie is alright. I am from Boston area and grew up hearing about Southie and Whitey so it was cool to see, other than that, nothing too outstanding in the flick. Depp tho is barely even recognizable, crazy intense.

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20. "Movie felt too much like a procedural...."
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or one of those History Channel docs where they dryly cover all the facts and throw in reenactments.

The cinematography is great. Depp and Edgerton are great. The dialogue....not so much. Outside of a few scenes where a few small conversations spill out into something bigger, nothing really popped.

Depp really sells a lot of the scenes that are quiet because he's so focused on reading whoever's opposite of him. He pretty much earned a nomination from those dinner scenes alone.

The action is very matter-of-fact. Nothing stylistically flashy. Also nothing tense. Things just happen....and the film just moves on.


Also, I wish Scott Cooper cut all of the interrogations from the film. The film starts off as if they'll be used as a framing device to explain the exploits of Whitey but nothing notable is ever said in those scenes...just henchmen staring.

And the scenes with the FBI starting to catch on to Connolly felt really rushed and tacked on. Like I said before, there's no tension.

  

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21. "Not a good movie. It's a lifeless wax statue."
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Performances are all fine. Movie is without a POV, a gritty and colorless checklist of Whitey Bulger events that has absolutely no end goal, has absolutely no interest in how Whitey got this way or why he did what he did, has no interest in most anything other than the bare essentials. It's like this movie never got past the log line. Upsettingly bad.

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24. "Yep. A shame that this was the Bulger movie to be made"
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Completely agree on this take. I wish we had gotten Matt Damon's version instead as this had no point and nothing to stay and doesn't even seem to have any more insight than a collection of headlines.

I'm a sucker for Mob movies so I never got bored but man, it'd be hard to recommend this movie to anyone. And a lot of the reviews seemed to go out of their way to like it. I get that for Star Wars or for Tarantino but surprised that Depp and Cooper got that treatment.

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25. "Agreed."
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Other than watching Depp.....this was a complete bore. Normally I eat shit like this up.

  

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22. "it was decent. not great"
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Depp did better than i thought. I thought Whitey was more of an Ed Harris role, but Depp was pretty chilling.

The cast is good, the performances were good. the movie was kind of painfully average though.

I'd like to see it again at some point. I had really high expectations.

  

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