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"The Visit (Shyamalan, 2015)"
Sun Apr-19-15 07:21 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

http://i.imgur.com/0rlgnID.jpg

I'll be there. The world needs Good M. Night back. I'd love for this to be the one. The poster is awesome.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Can't wait for the big reveal at the end
Apr 20th 2015
1
NIGHT DOGG! GRANNY'S GONNA BE WILIN'!
Apr 20th 2015
2
"THANK YOU, BOB! I'LL TAKE IT FROM HERE" - Dr. Leo Marvin
Apr 21st 2015
3
      http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/77185955-night-shyamalan-director-getty...
Apr 21st 2015
4
This looks good, but then again, they always do
Apr 21st 2015
5
Trailer
Apr 24th 2015
6
^^^
Apr 24th 2015
7
i legit cant tell if thats horror or comedy like 'housebound'.
Apr 25th 2015
8
^^That movie is fantastic btw
Apr 25th 2015
9
Um, that trailer looks good, Horror and some humor
Apr 25th 2015
10
TALK ABOUT IT!!!!
Aug 26th 2015
11
somebody needs to take m.night's keys away
Aug 27th 2015
12
Damn... I'm still gonna see it, but damn... NM
Aug 27th 2015
13
Wow that's really damning
Aug 27th 2015
14
man, don't nobody care what you think
Aug 27th 2015
15
really? yall are feelin this?
Aug 27th 2015
17
LMAO at the grandma screaming YAHTZEE with her mouth full!!!
Aug 27th 2015
18
Attended a free screening of this a couple weeks back
Aug 31st 2015
38
Cabin In The Woods Evil Dead 2 Cabin Fever of now then?
Aug 31st 2015
50
      I'd say so, yes
Aug 31st 2015
51
           cool. seems like people who don't like it went in with minds made up
Aug 31st 2015
52
Buzz still strong....overwhelmingly positive early reviews
Aug 31st 2015
41
where
Aug 31st 2015
45
Has anyone actually seen this yet?
Aug 31st 2015
47
I've heard/read about a half dozen reviews so far...all positive
Aug 31st 2015
48
these are fanboy reviews though
Sep 01st 2015
54
duly noted. thanks.
Sep 01st 2015
55
Lol@these M. Knight's Templar reviews
Sep 01st 2015
57
another positive review
Sep 03rd 2015
59
it's bad. and not conventionally bad. bizarre bad.
Sep 01st 2015
53
      Let's take the movie maker out of it for a second
Sep 01st 2015
56
           keep in mind, i was rooting for m.night here
Sep 03rd 2015
58
                So its like non-sensical decisions from behind the camera
Sep 16th 2015
86
more positive reviews for the genius
Sep 09th 2015
60
Faraci's going to write a rave, too.
Sep 09th 2015
61
Bas is so fulkla shit lol
Sep 09th 2015
62
hey, man...it's bad.
Sep 09th 2015
63
we know..its ahorror film that folks are finding unintentionally funny i...
Sep 10th 2015
65
      you so mad...like i don't like prince as much as you. THE ALBUM BAD!!!
Sep 10th 2015
66
Wouldn't be so bad if he didn't act like he found a new planet, invaded
Sep 09th 2015
64
the comments sections for the positive reviews say it all
Sep 10th 2015
67
I'm stunned this is getting good reviews. It is AWFUL.
Sep 11th 2015
68
hey, people let a goofy blonde ninja ride...these things happen. *shrug*
Sep 11th 2015
69
b-b-b-b-but Tarantino and Nolan! YEAH!
Sep 11th 2015
70
So, this movie gets a pass because things don't make sense elsewhere?
Sep 11th 2015
71
yes...it gets a pass because other stupid things in movies get a pass.
Sep 11th 2015
72
      Wait, now it's a race thing?
Sep 11th 2015
73
           yes...it is.
Sep 11th 2015
74
           of course. Batman doesn't have a built in audience and mythology and au...
Sep 11th 2015
78
the visit..its bad man
Sep 11th 2015
79
      that's fine. my butt don't hurt about it.
Sep 11th 2015
80
Let me respond to this review with my full (mostly positive) review:
Sep 11th 2015
75
      you ever notice the pitbull-like ferocity his critics attack small flaws...
Sep 11th 2015
76
           That's the minority this go around.
Sep 11th 2015
77
                I'm fully aware I'm in the minority for this one, and that's OK...
Sep 13th 2015
84
                     my criticism of other directors was merely that.
Sep 14th 2015
85
Realest review yet....
Sep 11th 2015
81
I get mad at found footage if it has no narrative function.
Sep 11th 2015
82
M Night is free to make whatever movie he wants, but man
Sep 12th 2015
83
what a win for night dogg. self-financed and self-assured.
Sep 20th 2015
87
nice comfortable stride to 60m for Night Dogg
Sep 27th 2015
88
I have no dog in the fight with this whole Night Dogg agenda...
Sep 19th 2016
89
meant to post about this long ago...
Sep 21st 2016
90

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1. "Can't wait for the big reveal at the end "
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Mon Apr-20-15 07:16 PM by Cold Truth

  

          

Where the kids leave after 930 after eating all they want, 930 is when the sprinklers go off and the kids haven't brushed their teeth, and they spawn a shit ton of gremlins.

The twist isn't that the kids are really gremlins, but that........DUNH....DJNH...DUNNNNNNNNNNH!!!!!

930 is two and a half hours earlier than midnight so we totally weren't expecting it to happen at 930.

This will rock.

  

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2. "NIGHT DOGG! GRANNY'S GONNA BE WILIN'!"
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3. ""THANK YOU, BOB! I'LL TAKE IT FROM HERE" - Dr. Leo Marvin"
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the GENIUS is back in the genre he belongs and OWNS.

put in your friend requests now. this will be the sleeper hit of the summer.

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4. "http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/77185955-night-shyamalan-director-getty..."
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http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/77185955-night-shyamalan-director-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=oToYvXs3XPbg5%2BsLNpXWIcg3TEWfCY1vSJLsBooKlIo2%2FBVEEo3icYG2m%2FsbpZ5V

^^The smirk of confidence and genius.

  

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5. "This looks good, but then again, they always do"
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I'll check it out, but I ain't particularly excited about it.

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6. "Trailer"
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https://youtu.be/7N5dCDubHFw

I have zero Night Daoog hate in my bones, but I'ma say this don't look too good.

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7. "^^^"
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Don't understand why this is found footage.

  

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8. "i legit cant tell if thats horror or comedy like 'housebound'."
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9. "^^That movie is fantastic btw"
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10. "Um, that trailer looks good, Horror and some humor"
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M. Night got me back with that trailer.

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11. "TALK ABOUT IT!!!!"
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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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12. "somebody needs to take m.night's keys away"
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it's actually a solid premise, and i thought m.night returning to low-budget horror was a really good move for him at this point in his career-- a way to reboot perhaps.

nope. the guy's completely lost it. whatever he was in the '90s is gone. tonally and stylistically, he's just lost in space. no idea who he is or what he should be doing. the found footage thing doesn't ruin the film by itself, but it's shoehorned awkwardly (and executed poorly) onto what otherwise could be a solid story. the pacing and dialogue is weak. it's visually boring. scenes move on prematurely before the tension has built to its fullest potential. what else? oh, and in perhaps the most impressive accomplishment of the film, m.night may very well be a worse lyricist than iggy azalea.

after an unprecedented string of critical failures, someone finally made the correct decision to pare down night dogg's budget. but, yeah, they need to take the keys away completely. no more writing. no more directing. story credits? sure. producing? okay. but the sixth sense/unbreakable guy has left the building. drunk. stop letting him drive.

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13. "Damn... I'm still gonna see it, but damn... NM"
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14. "Wow that's really damning "
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I was hoping that he could come home, but it looks bad.

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15. "man, don't nobody care what you think"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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17. "really? yall are feelin this?"
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18. "LMAO at the grandma screaming YAHTZEE with her mouth full!!!"
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38. "Attended a free screening of this a couple weeks back"
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Funniest film of the year!

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50. "Cabin In The Woods Evil Dead 2 Cabin Fever of now then?"
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>Funniest film of the year!

  

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51. "I'd say so, yes"
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It's a return to form for Night Dog, the majority of the people in theater really enjoyed it; all those that I went with did for sure. It's among my top 10 favorite films of the year. Too damn funny.

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52. "cool. seems like people who don't like it went in with minds made up"
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"oh, lemme guess, there's a twist...ah-duhehhhuh"

yes, there's a twist. just like there's revenge porn in a tarantino film.

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41. "Buzz still strong....overwhelmingly positive early reviews"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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45. "where"
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47. "Has anyone actually seen this yet? "
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I know we fighting over agendas and shit (shout out to longo for the delete) but how is the actual film?

Is it scary?

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48. "I've heard/read about a half dozen reviews so far...all positive"
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here's a few...

https://soundcloud.com/sanguinepodcasts/m-night-shyamalans-the-visit?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=277QkJfKkWc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFuoIhfQQVE&feature=youtu.be&a

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54. "these are fanboy reviews though"
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i'll be surprised if they let actual critics see this before the release date.

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55. "duly noted. thanks. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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57. "Lol@these M. Knight's Templar reviews"
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Faux News ass reporting over here

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59. "another positive review"
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http://www.screenrelish.com/2015/09/02/the-visit-review/

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53. "it's bad. and not conventionally bad. bizarre bad."
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typical bad horror movie, you're thinking, "why would he (the protagonist) do that?" this one, you're thinking, "why would he (night dogg) do that?"

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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56. "Let's take the movie maker out of it for a second"
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Is this bad because the kids are bad, is the set up bad? Are the jump scares not earned?

Of course there's no logic in the action, I mean we wouldn't have many horror films if they did act in logical ways.

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58. "keep in mind, i was rooting for m.night here"
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i'm a big fan of his early work. other people take joy in his failures, and i get it. they've been spectacular. but i'd much rather he just get back to making great movies. he hasn't done that with the visit.

the kids are fine actors, as are the grandparents. the jump scares are fine. the story is fine. the one thing m.night gets panned the most for actually works. but in typical night dogg fashion, the bad choices just sink it. found footage format, bizarre script elements, a finale that's much more weird than it is scary or satisfying. he's a good filmmaker who very consistently makes bad decisions. at some point, that makes you a bad filmmaker.

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86. "So its like non-sensical decisions from behind the camera "
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Have doomed the movie, and taken away the ability of the film to be effective

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60. "more positive reviews for the genius"
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the only critics who gonna neg are those who are always 3 steps behind the zeitgeist anyway and try to be friends two years later and shit. now, watch horror/comedy become trendy. corny and predictable.


http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2015/09/the_visit_movie_review_m_night.html

http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2015/0909/726710-film-review-m-night-shyamalans-the-visit-1-2/

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/09/09/review-the-visit/

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-visit/36846/the-visit-review

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_visit_2015/

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61. "Faraci's going to write a rave, too."
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62. "Bas is so fulkla shit lol"
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The same criticisms for Prince are happening and he is cosigning them

But not with MK Shitamalan lol

posting up pos reviews lol..same could be done of Prince's new one

  

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63. "hey, man...it's bad."
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65. "we know..its ahorror film that folks are finding unintentionally funny i..."
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66. "you so mad...like i don't like prince as much as you. THE ALBUM BAD!!!"
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it's BAD!!! stop crying.

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64. "Wouldn't be so bad if he didn't act like he found a new planet, invaded"
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Conquered it with his bare hands, enslaved the natives, and had monuments erected in his image while being worshipped as a god whenever he guesses correctly about something, only clam up, put on his pretend invisibility cloak, pretend he was never there at best and act like the subject was no big deal at worst when he's wrong.

The ridiculous gap in his reaction when he wins and when he loses couldn't be wider.

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67. "the comments sections for the positive reviews say it all"
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people just want him to be a cultural punching bag where they can drop their stale snark. these hipsters in the AV Club comments sections actually MAD the the reviewer thought it was good.

pathetic...

kristen stewart cant act

night dogg got the best visuals in the game and can direct kids better than your fave

GET OVER IT!

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68. "I'm stunned this is getting good reviews. It is AWFUL."
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Listen, I wanted to give this a chance, b/c M. Night has such a great run at the beginning of his career with the first 3 movies. Not to mention, I'm always on board with a director to step back and make a low budget horror movie to find his footing again.

While there are a couple creepy moment and good scares (especially one very good jump scare), the whole movie jumps around in tone throughout its run-time. What starts out as more a comedy then becomes a horror film. The rapping kid is more annoying than funny to me. A couple sitting next to me got up and left just a couple minutes in, and I think that kid was to blame.

The absolute worst part though was the ending, where the 2 leads were among the dumbest people I have ever seen in a horror movie. I'm simply stunned that the fact that they DO NOT RUN AWAY or try harder to get away is getting a pass by the bulk of reviewers and fans. And then, when all is said and done, we get a dramatic ending by the mother after the kids escape? And then a comedic one following that where the rapper raps about the traumatic experience as if it were a joke? You guys are buying that?

I mean, was it funny for you? Scary? Both? I just can't understand how this is getting by, it really baffles me.

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69. "hey, people let a goofy blonde ninja ride...these things happen. *shrug*"
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people let ra's al gl guhl's daughter bond-villain talk for 5 minutes while a nuclear bomb was supposed to blow 30 seconds ago...and then when it exploded in water couple miles away, everyone was fine. no tsunami, no nothing...as long as hans zimmer is playing through that damn dolby...NO ONE CARES how stupid everything is.

so yeah...tough.

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70. "b-b-b-b-but Tarantino and Nolan! YEAH! "
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That'll teach people not to criticize shitty Shyamalan movies!

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71. "So, this movie gets a pass because things don't make sense elsewhere?"
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Ok, well... To each their own?

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72. "yes...it gets a pass because other stupid things in movies get a pass. "
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it's really not that complicated.

if night dogg didn't get a pass because "other" directors get passes, that would be textbook white privilege, now wouldn't it?

oh...

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73. "Wait, now it's a race thing?"
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Did I miss something?

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74. "yes...it is. "
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if it wasn't, he'd get passes for bad movies. he'd be "death proof."

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78. "of course. Batman doesn't have a built in audience and mythology and au..."
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So of course the only thing people are thinking about is the race of the director, because that's how people determine an otherwise good movie with flaws from a generally bad movie with flaws.

Plus, it's Basa. Race is his magic safety net when he's wrong.

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79. "the visit..its bad man"
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80. "that's fine. my butt don't hurt about it. "
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75. "Let me respond to this review with my full (mostly positive) review:"
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>While there are a couple creepy moment and good scares
>(especially one very good jump scare), the whole movie jumps
>around in tone throughout its run-time. What starts out as
>more a comedy then becomes a horror film.

This is a Night trademark at this point and really should be expected. He's tried to balance a ton of genres in one film three times to date, and this is the fourth.

1. Signs. It all works beautifully. The comedy, the horror, the drama. He botches the ending, but it's 5 minutes away from full-blown classic status. That set the bar.
2. Lady In The Water. The horror stuff doesn't really work too well (although it's shot beautifully), but I think the character development, the comedy stuff, and the fantasy elements all really work. People revolted because it was advertised as horror (it wasn't, really) and they expected a twist (no twist), but it's really not that bad imo.
3. The Happening. Some of the comedy works-- and yes, Night *knows* that much of it is funny-- but he goes too far with it, so the horror never really works, and the drama all falls victim to Wahlberg's shitty shitty acting. (The difference between Willis and Wahlberg: Willis can imply character beneath his stiffness beautifully, but Wahlberg never really can.)

Here's the fourth attempt, with a much lower budget. Here's everything it seems he's trying to balance.

1. Comedy. Outside of the rapping shit (which is terrible), it mostly works for me.

2. Horror. Hell yes. I watched the last third of this shit through the cracks in my fingers. Night is still a master of tension: he knows where to place the camera, when to be silent, etc. He rarely relies on the jump scare (though there is an absolutely shiver-inducing one here out of the fucking blue), instead counting on smaller, creepier sound effects. He did this beautifully in Signs, and he employs it some here. (Those scratching sounds in this movie, yeesh. My blood turns cold.)

3. Drama. The divorce/absentee father stuff. Yeah, I mean, it is what it is. Doesn't *all* work too well, but it does provide the important incentive for why the film is found footage.

4. Found Footage. Night does something really clever here, which I appreciated: the characters are almost always completely aware of the camera. They rarely ever lose sight of it, and they act accordingly in front of it. Lots of posturing, lots of hesitation to be honest, etc. These characters act the way people would in front of a camera. I liked that.

5. Meta-self-commentary. There's that whole bit about how you don't need to get caught up in pretentious film school aspirations to simply tell a good story. It's easy to read that as Night commenting on his own failures-- his movies always look and sound great, but the stories lately have been lacking. I enjoyed this part as well.

You're right that the shifts are occasionally jarring, but I always prefer an ambitious mess to unambitious mediocrity. If Night wants to try to get back into making Signs/Lady In The Water type genre mash-ups, that is a-ok by me.

The rapping kid is
>more annoying than funny to me. A couple sitting next to me
>got up and left just a couple minutes in, and I think that kid
>was to blame.

Oh, I'm sure. I cringed. Not great stuff.

>The absolute worst part though was the ending, where the 2
>leads were among the dumbest people I have ever seen in a
>horror movie. I'm simply stunned that the fact that they DO
>NOT RUN AWAY or try harder to get away is getting a pass by
>the bulk of reviewers and fans.

Well, three things:
1. They set up very explicitly in the back story why the grandson wouldn't run away. He freezes. That's what he does. He does it again here. He gets struck by fear and can't act.
2. The granddaughter is convinced her grandparents are still there, and she thinks she can set them free and they can help her. Now, granted, this one is a bit of a stretch-- but the explanation *is* present, so I didn't have a problem with it.
3. Where were they going to go? They lived in the damn boonies, it's the middle of the night, and they've already established that Nana and Pop Pop very well may be faster and stronger. They know their mom is on her way with the police. They could've tried to lock themselves in the room, but again, "acting natural" is a common explanation in movies like this, and I didn't have a problem with it.


And then, when all is said
>and done, we get a dramatic ending by the mother after the
>kids escape?

I actually really liked this. It's closure for the heart of the narrative. It's way better than most horror movies I see lately, which ends on some additional jump scare and/or cheap deaths of main characters for no reason other than to wring more fear out of us. I'm not saying I was crying along with the characters, but I liked the choice.

And then a comedic one following that where the
>rapper raps about the traumatic experience as if it were a
>joke? You guys are buying that?

Well, this was obviously a misstep, as was the rapping in general.

>I mean, was it funny for you? Scary? Both? I just can't
>understand how this is getting by, it really baffles me.

Moderately funny (except for the aggressively unfunny rapping bits), definitely scary. Not top tier Night, but I'd put it behind Lady In The Water, so... fifth in the rankings?

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76. "you ever notice the pitbull-like ferocity his critics attack small flaws..."
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but they hate it when someone brings it up with "untouchable" filmmakers like nolan and tarantino.

dudes wanted to fight me IRL because i partied on how similar Interstellar was to Contact...even down to the SOUND DESIGN.

dudes on this very board still mad i point out how ridiculous a blonde ninja is...WHILE they asking how tom cruise is the last samurai!!!!

and now they mad because night is actually getting some good reviews. all this crying...for what?!?!?

whatever.

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77. "That's the minority this go around."
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72% on Rotten Tomatoes. Few raves, but plenty of mixed reviews that focus primarily on the positive. For a horror movie, that's pretty damn good.

This will easily make its money back. Hopefully Night does another flick with Blumhouse. Keeps manufacturing those scares... cuz goddamn does the man know how to create tension.

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84. "I'm fully aware I'm in the minority for this one, and that's OK..."
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We aren't going to like everything or hate everything.

I liked your breakdown of the review for this, that was a good step into a discussion about the movie, rather than just blame other directors for their missteps as a way to explain the movie is OK or not as is.

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85. "my criticism of other directors was merely that. "
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i shoulda been posting here to rip Nolan for lifting from Contact, but no worries...I'll be around for the next one.

I mean, if we gon pile on...we gon pile on EVERYBODY.


>We aren't going to like everything or hate everything.
>
>I liked your breakdown of the review for this, that was a good
>step into a discussion about the movie, rather than just blame
>other directors for their missteps as a way to explain the
>movie is OK or not as is.

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81. "Realest review yet...."
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http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/visit-movie-review/story?id=33692903

"If you come across another review of "The Visit," and you can tell it’s going to be a negative one, stop reading it. It’s likely written by someone who just wants to pile on M. Night Shyamalan..."


I've NEVER seen so many review whining about found footage in my fucking life.

And I've read several late entry neg reviews reviews that take shots at the positive reviews the film is getting.

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82. "I get mad at found footage if it has no narrative function."
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Here, it is *insanely* apparent why they went the found footage route: by making the main character a filmmaker, he can make commentary on the artifice of moviemaking and on his own failings as a director in the past.

He also finds new things to do with found footage, such as keeping the characters pretty much *constantly* aware of the camera. Usually my beef with found footage is that the actors acknowledge it for 5 minutes or so and then act like a normal movie. Here, the "documentary" the girl is making plays an integral role in the plot. It's all textual.

I don't have a problem with "found footage fatigue." But you can't toss this film on the pile of "it's found footage just for the sake of being found footage!" Maybe it originated that way, but they found a *reason* for the found footage technique to be employed. It's crystal clear.

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83. "M Night is free to make whatever movie he wants, but man"
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I wish he would focus more on the straight horror/suspense because he still has some skill in that department. The comedy in this movie was ok other than the rapping misstep, but the drama attempts failed miserably imo. And having two child actors as leads is very rarely a good idea. Overall they were more annoying/distracting than anything. There was also a huge lull in the movie before the twist was revealed and I very nearly fell asleep.

When it comes to mixing horror with other genres, I'll stick with Del Toro. I assume Crimson Peak will shit all over this.

  

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87. "what a win for night dogg. self-financed and self-assured."
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so good to see reviewers have to eat shit with their pre-written snark-a-thons.

on to the next one.

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88. "nice comfortable stride to 60m for Night Dogg"
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What a genius. Next two got Bruce and Joaquin back to back. Incredible.

A lesser director would have turned curmudgeonly and hid behind past glory, while making awful films with ipads and really bad child actors, pretty much daring anyone to say he's fallen off.

*Shrug*

Talent gon talent.

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89. "I have no dog in the fight with this whole Night Dogg agenda..."
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but as a horror fan, I LOVED this movie. Not all horror movies need to be "scary" to be effective. Horror as a genre can take on many forms and some of the best horror movies are when it's self-aware (Scream, Cabin in the Woods, Tucker and Dale vs Evil, Dead Snow, etc.)

You see this self-awareness in the kids: the goofy rapping germaphobe kid brother and his ultra pretentious aspiring filmmaker sister. Not only is their acting spot on, they also handled the old "found footage" conceit exceptionally well. How? They're kids, they have fun with it. It's not all extra dramatic "why the hell are they filming while running" type footage. It's the brother rapping with his shirt off. Or the sister trying to capture her auteur moments. It also sets up two of the most effective scenes in the film when she interviews Nana documentary style (seriously, how fucking creepy was that first scene when Nana bugs out). It's easy to say "oh we've seen this already" but when it's a familiar setting handled in an effective new way (a la Paranormal Activity) then why not?

I was also fine with that ending. It's always easy to poke fun at people in horror flicks because yes, they do stupid shit all the time. But the kids both behave in reasonable ways. Only the sister knew that her grandparents were actually dead. And the brother had "deer in the headlights" syndrome. Why would he risk bodily harm when he knew his "grandpa" had the strength of a mule and a temper to match? And besides all that, he took his chance when he saw it. The rap at the end was just icing on a bomb ass cake.

For the people who didn't like it, it makes me wonder how much horror they typically watch. Because I would absolutely recommend this to people who regard dearly Scream and Cabin in the Woods in their horror pantheon.

  

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90. "meant to post about this long ago..."
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man, i tell ya, i hate all of the M Night hate.
i DUG this movie.

just go in blind, don't read any details about it, don't watch any trailers, and leave any preconceived ideas you have about the movie or the director at home (IMO all of that is what you should do for EVERY movie...just go in blind)...

if you do all that and come out of this saying you weren't entertained, then i don't know what to tell ya...

  

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