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Frank Longo
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"Poll question: Best Marvel Studios Film To Date"


  

          

Poll result (54 votes)
Iron Man (2 votes)Vote
The Avengers (21 votes)Vote
Iron Man 3 (1 votes)Vote
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (15 votes)Vote
Guardians of the Galaxy (14 votes)Vote
Other (please specify below) (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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My preference
Aug 04th 2014
1
My rankings (best to worst)
Aug 04th 2014
2
It's a tie between GOG and Avengers IMO.
Aug 04th 2014
3
I got a Top 5:
Aug 04th 2014
4
GotG will age the best, IM3 will age the worst.
Aug 04th 2014
5
I've seen IM3 four or five times now.
Aug 04th 2014
6
IM3 was great, you must mean IM2
Aug 04th 2014
7
IM3 is going to age bad?
Aug 05th 2014
11
      RE: IM3 is going to age bad?
Aug 05th 2014
14
Other: BLADE
Aug 04th 2014
8
That's a New Line Cinema venture.
Aug 04th 2014
9
      definitely
Aug 22nd 2014
35
1) Guardians 2) Winter Soldier 3) Avengers
Aug 04th 2014
10
^^no matter the order, those 3 are the best
Aug 05th 2014
12
I agree with this. Avengers is good for the novelty of all the heroes
Aug 07th 2014
24
Voting Winter Soldier; its their biggest coup
Aug 05th 2014
13
We all have different tastes
Aug 05th 2014
15
This might sound odd, but Winter Soldier because it...
Aug 05th 2014
16
Right. CA:TWS was like some 80s Stallone shit.
Aug 05th 2014
18
      fuck that. it was much better than that.
Aug 05th 2014
19
           I mean the type of shit they were doing
Aug 05th 2014
21
                hmm. perhaps so,
Aug 11th 2014
29
Avengers is the best, and it's not even close.
Aug 05th 2014
17
x-men is fox.
Aug 05th 2014
20
My Top 5
Aug 05th 2014
22
surprisingly, Winter Soldier
Aug 06th 2014
23
It was a long 70 minutes, but once Banner hulked out, it was a wrap
Aug 07th 2014
25
You're right about that first Cap movie.
Aug 22nd 2014
36
Even on OKP we can agree, for the most part, on the best 4 MCU.
Aug 08th 2014
26
I think the top 3 has a consensus, but that 4th will be debated between
Aug 10th 2014
28
      It is amazing that none of the movies have been outright terrible.
Aug 11th 2014
30
           I was just thinking that as i made my list
Aug 12th 2014
32
           I want to know why so many people think IM3 is bad.
Aug 12th 2014
33
                Honestly, it's just my least favorite.... Few reasons...
Aug 12th 2014
34
                     The first half of this is sound discourse.
Aug 25th 2014
38
                     IM2 - commercial. IM3 - character driven substance with consequences
Aug 26th 2014
40
                     Um...
Aug 27th 2014
41
Avengers was good but it suffered from a lame-ass villain
Aug 08th 2014
27
Guardians
Aug 12th 2014
31
the current results are in perfect order imho
Aug 22nd 2014
37
I agree with the top 3
Aug 25th 2014
39
1. GoG 2. Avengers 3. Winter Soldier
Aug 29th 2014
42

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1. "My preference"
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Mon Aug-04-14 02:24 PM by bwood

          

Cream of da crop:

Avengers

Guardians/Winter Soldier (two totally different films that surpassed my expectations)

Iron Man 3

Iron Man

Thor

Average to below average aka the ones I don't care much for:

The First Avenger

Iron Man 2

The Incredible Hulk

The Dark World

I fully expect Age of Ultron to be the best as everyone who has read that script has said it's Godfather Part II/Empire Strikes Back/Dark Knight level of sequel which is saying something cause I feel that way about Winter Soldier.

Also want to say Winter Solider/Guardians are coming for Avengers' crown cause to me it's almost a 3 way battle royale as to which are cream of da crop. Avengers has a slight edge due to the last 30 minutes and getting see the superhero team up I dreamed of as a kid.

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2. "My rankings (best to worst)"
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GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
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3. "It's a tie between GOG and Avengers IMO. "
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Not to say it was perfect, but they hit so many notes in just the right way that it's a tough one to top. Avengers suffered from a very slow start and too much Hawkeye walking around like a zombie.

Ronan doesn't even approach the incredibly high standard set by Hiddleston's Loki, so there's that difference, but the truth is GOG didn't need a standout villain. It certainly would have been better to have someone with some substance, but his one note performance didn't really detract from the film.

The heroes in both films delivered in droves, and watching Thor, Cap, and Stark duke it out on the big screen was an incredible moment all by itself. That said, the only hero that really stood out was Hulk, and his beating of Loki was absolutely hysterical. It just so happens that GOG had several moments that rivaled Hulk's beat down of Loki, including Groot flipping out on the Kree. That seemed like an homage of sorts to the Hulk scene, now that I think about it.

Both films exhibited remarkable ambition and execution in light of tremendous pressure to deliver. Both films were considerably risky; The Avengers had a tall order of creating a cohesive, engaging narrative that gave multiple characters enough screen time together to really engage the audience without the movie feeling bloated. GOG was pretty far out there to begin with and consisted of characters that were complete unknowns to most mainstream audiences.

GOG basically created a new-age Star Wars and added a layer to the MCU that will be hard to contend with by rival studios and put Marvel into a whole new stratosphere. It's success will arguably pay greater long-term dividends for Marvel than Avengers did.

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4. "I got a Top 5:"
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1. The Avengers
2. Iron Man
3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
4. Guardians of the Galaxy
5. The Incredible Hulk

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5. "GotG will age the best, IM3 will age the worst."
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IM3 shouldn't even be on this list, it might even be my least favorite of the MCU movies.

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6. "I've seen IM3 four or five times now."
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For me, it gets better with every viewing. Though, admittedly, I'm one who falls deeply in love when a film has sharp dialogue, and IM3 has more consistently sharp dialogue than any other Marvel film.

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7. "IM3 was great, you must mean IM2 "
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11. "IM3 is going to age bad?"
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Can it age bad if it was bad from the jump? I really didnt like that one at all.

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14. "RE: IM3 is going to age bad?"
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>Can it age bad if it was bad from the jump?

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8. "Other: BLADE"
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I don't care what none of y'all say - that first BLADE movie was certified DOPE.


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9. "That's a New Line Cinema venture."
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Not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

And Blade 2 was better. *truth bomb dropped*

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35. "definitely"
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>And Blade 2 was better. *truth bomb dropped*


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10. "1) Guardians 2) Winter Soldier 3) Avengers "
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*large gulf in quality*

the rest of them joints.

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12. "^^no matter the order, those 3 are the best"
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The IM movies started out with what was great at the time (first movie), and helped usher us into way better movies ...i don't think any of them age well, or even seem as good when you think about the actual plot... even the best IM movie, IM 1, falls apart once you actually get to the big bad...

the first Cap movie is cool, but lacks that special something to make it great...the first Thor is pretty close, but i think it suffers from the "love" story, which should have been tweaked so that it was more believable or was lessened so that it didn't become a distraction...the second Thor is a good watch, but in retrospect seems thrown together and doesn't have the care of the first..that's probably cause they were trying to capitalyze off The Avengers popularity....

Incredy Hulk isn't a bad movie, but i'm not sure people are down to see a Hulk movie...and theyy seemed to make the movie's tone more dark literally and figuratively in contrast to the first movie...i'm not sure that really worked...

all that said...i can watch most of these movies repeatedly, and enjoy each viewing....(everything except IM 2 and 3)

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24. "I agree with this. Avengers is good for the novelty of all the heroes"
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in the same movie but past that its just ok.

The 2 this year were most definitely better and I'd say the best Marvel films to date.

IM1 is up there too.

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13. "Voting Winter Soldier; its their biggest coup"
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Changed a solid but straight forward 50's pulp homage story from the first Cap into a solid (and poignant) political action thriller.

Its the first time Marvel proved their formula doesn't have to just specifically be for pure superhero films...and I think bodes well for future Marvel movies that aren't just adaptations of widescreen superhero comics.

  

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15. "We all have different tastes"
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I wasn't as much a fan of IM3. *Haven't seen Guardians yet.

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16. "This might sound odd, but Winter Soldier because it..."
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it would have worked even as a non comic book movie. I think even if you take out the super-hero element it would have still worked as a movie.

It was such a good "movie" over all.

I liked Avengers a lot, it was a nerdgasm, Gaurdians mmmm I'm going to have to see again because, I let the hypetrain lead me and I was left wondering what I missed.

So for me

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18. "Right. CA:TWS was like some 80s Stallone shit. "
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19. "fuck that. it was much better than that."
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21. "I mean the type of shit they were doing"
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not the quality.

starts with a fucking airdrop onto a boat, followed by some brutal-ass brawling?

commentary on the military's role in shaping the future?

i really feel like TWS was born in Stallone/Norris shit. Just way better with a lot more stuff.

  

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29. "hmm. perhaps so,"
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mixed in with the 70s espionage thriller elements.

Amazing that it's not the best Marvel movie of the year, really.

  

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17. "Avengers is the best, and it's not even close."
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then Captain America: Winter Soldier
then Iron Man 2
then Guardians of the Galaxy
then X-Men: Days Of Future Past

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20. "x-men is fox."
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22. "My Top 5"
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1. Avengers
2. GotG
3. CA: TWS
4. Ironman
5. Thor

I wanted to like IM3, but I hate what they did to the Mandarin.

  

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23. "surprisingly, Winter Soldier"
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and I thought the first Captain America was pretty bad. The Avengers has the highest points of them all, but gotdamn is that first 70 minutes a fucking slog.

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25. "It was a long 70 minutes, but once Banner hulked out, it was a wrap"
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That turn and punch with the group shot follow up made up for it in spades.

Winter Soldier was much better paced and cohesive for sure. But it also had one primary character and the other big names were on a lower tier, whereas Avengers came with the big guns all on the same playing field

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36. "You're right about that first Cap movie."
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>and I thought the first Captain America was pretty bad. The

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26. "Even on OKP we can agree, for the most part, on the best 4 MCU."
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The Avengers, Iron Man, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy are the best of the group, hands down, then it's usually a personal favorite movie (mine happens to be The Incredible Hulk), and the rest which are OK.

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28. "I think the top 3 has a consensus, but that 4th will be debated between "
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IM1, IM3, T2, and CA1.

I personally don't think there's a bad apple in the entire barrel, though IM2 would be at the bottom of the list of MCU movies for me. I personally think every entry in the MCU is solid and worth watching, even if some have some issues.

The one over-arching issue through the series thus far is the lack of any truly inspired villain aside from Loki. Red Skull could have been that and wasn't. Thanos has been nothing but Emperor Palpatine Light, and the IM villains never had great source material to pull from to begin outside of Mandarin. I enjoyed the twist of Mandarin in IM3 while simultaneously being annoyed that we didn't get the legit, badass Mandarin Stark and the fans deserved.

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30. "It is amazing that none of the movies have been outright terrible."
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My least favorite is IM3 after watching it after the first time, but it isn't a God-awful movie by any stretch. Nitpicks aside (such as SHIELD disappearing in IM3 and T2, some villains not living up in their respective stories, etc), they've entertained the hell out of me.

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32. "I was just thinking that as i made my list"
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there's nothing on the list I wouldn't rewatch.

  

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33. "I want to know why so many people think IM3 is bad."
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Is it because the Mandarin wasn't what people wanted? I feel like 90% of the people who hate IM3 hated it for the "twist."

Or is it "science" of how the suits work, in which case the entire Marvel universe likely leaves you shaking your head?

(I don't mean "you" specifically, phenompyrus, I mean the six or seven people who have lambasted IM3 around these boards the last couple of weeks with quick shots about how awful it is.)

It has probably a top three script in terms of dialogue, the visuals are terrific, it's filled to the brim with awesome character actors, and unless the twist pissed you off, you likely found it to be one of the more exciting and unexpected twists in comic book movie history.

Maybe it's just me.

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34. "Honestly, it's just my least favorite.... Few reasons..."
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Marvel spent since 2008 developing a shared universe, with SHIELD and The Avengers, and they were no where to be seen when one of their own, Tony Stark no less, has his house destroyed and disappears.

The same could be said with Thor: The Dark World, where London was on the midst of being destroyed by a dimension tunnel, and Thor was the only responder... But I digress...

The Mandarin twist wasn't bad, but wasn't great either. It was just OK. RDJ has mastered Tony Stark, but there was barely any Iron Man in the movie at all, despite there being a number of suits and the Air Force One. And he wasn't in the suit.

And don't get me started on Pepper Potts getting the powers at the end, that damn well might be the dumbest thing in a comic book movie since Tobey Maguire was dancing emo in Spider-Man 3.

I love me some War Machine, but Iron Patriot? Meh.

It isn't terrible, just not as good as the rest. I've even come to like Iron Man 2 better, since it really is just The Avengers 0.5 (whereas Captain America: The Winter Soldier was The Avengers 1.5, but that one is Top 3 or 4 in the MCU).

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38. "The first half of this is sound discourse. "
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>Marvel spent since 2008 developing a shared universe, with
>SHIELD and The Avengers, and they were no where to be seen
>when one of their own, Tony Stark no less, has his house
>destroyed and disappears.
>
>The same could be said with Thor: The Dark World, where London
>was on the midst of being destroyed by a dimension tunnel, and
>Thor was the only responder... But I digress...
>
>The Mandarin twist wasn't bad, but wasn't great either. It
>was just OK. RDJ has mastered Tony Stark, but there was
>barely any Iron Man in the movie at all, despite there being a
>number of suits and the Air Force One. And he wasn't in the
>suit.

All valid issues if you ask me.

>And don't get me started on Pepper Potts getting the powers at
>the end, that damn well might be the dumbest thing in a comic
>book movie since Tobey Maguire was dancing emo in Spider-Man
>3.

Disagree here. It's not even close if you ask me. I had no beef with it, and don't get the issue personally.

>I love me some War Machine, but Iron Patriot? Meh.

Not much of a difference if you ask me, except that it makes perfect sense to me that the U.S government would want to change the name of an armored suit that more or less exists as a living weapon from the highly threatening "War Machine" to the considerably more neutral "Iron Patriot".

>I've even
>come to like Iron Man 2 better, since it really is just The
>Avengers 0.5

I'm lost on this one.

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40. "IM2 - commercial. IM3 - character driven substance with consequences "
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Tony suffering PTSD from his "sacrifice play" in the Avengers was great, to me and probably more effective way of showing continuity within the MCU than just having SHIELD or some Avengers show up.

There was a bit of a lack of Tony in the armor but he was still clearly Iron Man. When Stark rigged up weapons to infiltrate Mandarin's mansion, that was totally Iron Man. Downey has owned the character so completely. Everything about Tony being obsessed with building & upgrading suits was great.


The way the film handled the Mandarin was a clever take on a character that is racist & was never really that cool in the first place(The rings were cool, not Mandarin)


Makes way more sense that the US Gov would rather have Iron Patriot rep the military than "War Machine" from a PR angle. It just makes sense. Rhodes still thought of himself as "War Machine" though, which was cool.

I liked Pepper unexpectedly gaining powers & saving Tony in the end but the fight up to that was awesome; Tony jumping from suit to suit was dope as fuck.

I haven't seen GOTG or Thor 2 yet but I'd place IM3 right below the Avengers with Winter Solider holding it down as the best Marvel Studios Production thus far

  

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41. "Um..."
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>Marvel spent since 2008 developing a shared universe, with
>SHIELD and The Avengers, and they were no where to be seen
>when one of their own, Tony Stark no less, has his house
>destroyed and disappears.
>

I'm assuming this takes place the same time as Winter Soldier, so yeah S.H.I.E.L.D. ain't coming to help anyone. And yea, Thor had his hands full too. With that said the only guy who'd be able to help out in any of the three films is Banner. And we all know he ain't coming to help out at all.

>The same could be said with Thor: The Dark World, where London
>was on the midst of being destroyed by a dimension tunnel, and
>Thor was the only responder... But I digress...
>

As stated above.

>The Mandarin twist wasn't bad, but wasn't great either. It
>was just OK. RDJ has mastered Tony Stark, but there was
>barely any Iron Man in the movie at all, despite there being a
>number of suits and the Air Force One. And he wasn't in the
>suit.
>

I love the twist. That proved to me that Marvel is making films and not comic adaptations.

Also, I hate hearing there was no Iron Man. That's some shit little kids would say. TONY STARK IS IRON MAN. And vice versa. It was always about the man and not the suit. And this nigga made gadgets throughout the film to help him take out the bad guys. Thems shits were cool as fuck.

>And don't get me started on Pepper Potts getting the powers at
>the end, that damn well might be the dumbest thing in a comic
>book movie since Tobey Maguire was dancing emo in Spider-Man
>3.
>

HELL NO!!!! Not even close. Pepper up until Iron Man Three really had nothing to do except run Tony's business and pout about his actions.

And wasn't Pepper Rescue in the comics? Like didn't she have her own armor? I remember before IM3 dropped everyone was geeked about the rumors of Pepper being Rescue being in the film.

>I love me some War Machine, but Iron Patriot? Meh.
>

Yeah... The U.S. Government is not going to all themselves to be represented by something called "War Machine" with rockets, missiles, and mini-guns coming out of it's arms and shoulders.

>It isn't terrible, just not as good as the rest. I've even
>come to like Iron Man 2 better, since it really is just The
>Avengers 0.5 (whereas Captain America: The Winter Soldier was
>The Avengers 1.5, but that one is Top 3 or 4 in the MCU).

Iron Man 2 did really nothing to advance the story. It was a big commercial for Avengers. Plus, they made Tony an asshole in that movie. I mean shit he was so unlikeable.

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27. "Avengers was good but it suffered from a lame-ass villain"
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They deserved way better than the chitari or whatever. It should have been Ultron from jump.

  

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31. "Guardians"
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1. Guardians (kind of a tentative #1, I want to see it again before I place it above Avengers forever, but my first impression was it was really funny, had a lot of heart, and was a tighter movie than Avengers. the balance between action and comedy was perfect for me.)
2. Avengers
3. Iron Man
4. Winter Soldier
5. IM3
6. Captain America
7. Thor (used to have 6 and 7 swapped, but watched them again and Cap has a better story)
8. IM2 (don't think it's as bad as other people do though)
9. Incredible Hulk (used to like this a lot more than I do now, but the action is still great. i keep thinking about that roof scene at the end though... where did all those people come from and why are they going anywhere near this beast?)

Haven't seen Dark World yet.

  

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37. "the current results are in perfect order imho"
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39. "I agree with the top 3"
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Although they could be ranked either way they are def the best 3. After seeing Cap2 and Guardians I'm really excited for Avengers 2.

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42. "1. GoG 2. Avengers 3. Winter Soldier"
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4. Thor

the Ironman movies, I liked II unlike most folk, but overall non really moved me like that, second Thor flick was aight too

first Cap movie is the only dud IMO.

I really don't remember the Hulk movies, because I've only seen them in pieces

  

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