(how accurate are these?)


With a $750,000-per-episode rate, Two and a Half Men star Ashton Kutcher makes five times what Game of Thrones’ Emmy-winning Tyrion Lannister—actor Peter Dinklage—earns per episode on his show ($150,000). If we want to get into more depressing minute-by-minute math, Kutcher clocks about $34,000 of income per minute of his CBS sitcom. (Calculated using 22 minutes as the typical length of a half-hour sitcom after commercials are deducted.)

Reportedly earning $25–30 million per year, The Daily Show host Jon Stewart has now surpassed his network late-night counterparts, Jay Leno and David Letterman, who are both still making an estimated $20 million per year at their respective shows.

New Girl’s Schmidt, Max Greenfield, is in the same episodic income bracket as RuPaul. The former brings in a reported $75,000 per episode of his Fox comedy, while the latter makes $50,000 per episode of RuPaul’s Drag Race.

Howard Stern makes a reported $15 million for a series that runs three months per year, America’s Got Talent, while Jimmy Kimmel is paid $10 million for hosting his ABC late-night series year round.

With a tidy $47 million per year thanks to her syndicated daytime show, Judge Judy—the highest-paid personality in television—makes more than Today’s Matt Lauer ($22–25 million) and David Letterman ($20 million) do on their shows, combined.
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..with all the work (rehearsals, filming, pr, etc.) that goes into making these shows, these outlandish estimates make it look ridiculous.

just goes to show: most people don't care about the process, they only care about results.


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gets $160,000 per minute of a movie, as if the total time worked is equivalent to the running time of the end result. ($20 million salary for a 2 hour film).

gets $160,000 per minute of a movie, as if the total time worked is equivalent to the running time of the end result. ($20 million salary for a 2 hour film).

http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/how-long-are-the-days-on-a-movie-set-polone.html

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the income per minute parts of the article.

but speaking to your statement Ashton works on a multi camera sit com that works as an ensemble...his days aren't that long especially relative to some of the hbo dramas or motion pictures

but even in the motion picture category the person's who spend the most time working on the film ( b/w pre-production and post production) is the director. unless your spielberg, lucas,or cameron the difference in pay based on time compared to the pay of the top actor is unbalanced

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>the income per minute parts of the article.
>
>but speaking to your statement Ashton works on a multi camera
>sit com that works as an ensemble...his days aren't that long
>especially relative to some of the hbo dramas or motion
>pictures

i'm not comparing actors in different fields. its fairly obvious there's a significant difference for people working on sitcoms and those working on network drama series.

>but even in the motion picture category the person's who spend
>the most time working on the film ( b/w pre-production and
>post production) is the director. unless your spielberg,
>lucas,or cameron the difference in pay based on time compared
>to the pay of the top actor is unbalanced

except those lead actors are being paid to anchor the franchise based on their draw, not the amount of hours they put in compared to others.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7E8dge7H8Y


..and miles to go before i sleep...

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he basically walked into a successful sitcom, made it worse and reaped the benefits. dude need to tongue-kiss his agent/manager everyday



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..its not like he had to earn the position he currently holds in the world of entertainment, right?





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..and miles to go before i sleep...

Now I don't watch this show, cuz I never have. But Ashton on That 70s Show & most of flicks is solid.

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Including a stint on a successful sitcom.

>he basically walked into a successful sitcom, made it worse
>and reaped the benefits. dude need to tongue-kiss his
>agent/manager everyday

You got that shit backwards. His reps need to kiss his ass for letting them take 10% of the easiest money they ever made.

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Hopefully not cuz it made -0 sense.

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>Hopefully not cuz it made -0 sense.

apparently Ashton Kutcher is box office gold. I never even knew he was headlining movies like that.


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bignick said that Ashton was getting paid like that cause he was on a TV show for 8 years and was making movies. Sudekis has been on a TV show for a few years and made some movies too, so I was wondering what happens if he goes on an established show. I'm expecting Mila Kunis to kill the game since she's a bigger box office draw then Ashton and was on the same show. she need to go take over the Big Bang Theory




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but she shouldn't walk in off the street and become the highest paid actor on a show that was already a big hit without her, and the show shouldn't take a dip in quality. that's all I'm saying. I'm just learning how Hollywood works.



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...her agents can negotiate a bigger salary for her, yes she absolutely should make more money.

>but she shouldn't walk in off the street and become the
>highest paid actor on a show that was already a big hit
>without her, and the show shouldn't take a dip in quality.
>that's all I'm saying. I'm just learning how Hollywood works.

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I used to be a stage actor. I've spent time on TV and movie sets as an extra and a guest of an actor and a producer. I have arrived on set at 5am and been there until 12am. I know that's not unusual.

I also know folks who work in other trades who work the same hours for MASSIVELY LESS money. Hell, the actor friend whose set I visited didn't make $750k per episode of her syndicated tv show. But she worked as much as I bet Ashton works. Fuck that entire thing. I mean, yay for those who make that bread - nice work if you can get it. But I am not about to cry a single tear about the hours those ppl (the one percenters) work and I'm not going to agree they 'deserve' those outrageous salaries. Neither do the producers. Or directors. Agents. On and on. Fuck those salaries. LOL

fuck you.

..you know that most people consider everyone working in law with the same disdain reserved for ambulance chasers.

is that cool?

i realize this society is twisted in its approach to attributed value, but its pointless to argue with facts.

you compared your friend to ashton: will the resumés line up accordingly?

*btw: i gave a few bland examples of some of the work required by actors. that doesn't begin to describe the demands of a successful working entertainer.

if the point is simply that entertainers are largely overpaid, the counter would be that like the rest of society, that stature is reserved for a select few. still, that doesn't mean those select few didn't work hard paying dues to earn those positions, the pay, and the perks that come along with them.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7E8dge7H8Y


..and miles to go before i sleep...

>..you know that most people consider everyone working in law
>with the same disdain reserved for ambulance chasers.
>
>is that cool?

it depends. some lawyers are as skuzzy as ppl say. lol. some lawyers are way overpaid.

>i realize this society is twisted in its approach to
>attributed value, but its pointless to argue with facts.
>
>you compared your friend to ashton: will the resumés line up
>accordingly?

this was in 2000. in 2013 she's working in commercials and producing small projects. i haven't spoken w/her in years but i assume she's still working 12 to 16 hr days on the regular and no, she's not making Ashton's money. her projects haven't been as successful as Ashton's.

>*btw: i gave a few bland examples of some of the work required
>by actors. that doesn't begin to describe the demands of a
>successful working entertainer.

please try to add up $40 million of demands on a successful working entertainer's time. PLEASE. DO IT. i'd be so highly entertained.

LOL.

>if the point is simply that entertainers are largely overpaid,
>the counter would be that like the rest of society, that
>stature is reserved for a select few.

you'd be wasting your time.

the best counter comes from those who receive those massive salaries and keep themselves HUMBLE and for the most part don't talk about the money. b/c no matter how justified they may feel and how much work they do to earn that money, ppl like me don't wanna hear that shit and will never, ever agree that they 'deserve' that money. so they're best off STFU and drawing that money and making my entertainment and keeping it the fuck moving.

fuck you.

we could go back & forth about this all day, but there's really no right or wrong in any of this. while everyone has an opinion, most of them are misinformed (esp when it comes to the world of entertainment).

don't get me wrong, i recognize that the very nature of celebrity is a gift & a curse. the fabulous, lavish lifestyles that set them apart from the rest of the world are the very same things that often 'cause disdain & ridicule in the public eye. i couldn't care less about celebrity life, but i'm the first to admit that the public plays its part. most celebs aren't out flaunting their paychecks or annual salaries. instead, the public scours every entertainment blurb & tabloid for any knowledge of their finances or personal lives.

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*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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..and miles to go before i sleep...

fuck you.

sheeeit. it's not that fucking hard. it's ACTING, not industrial engineering. alls you need is an in-built personality to work off and it's easy as shit.
'outlandish' is most definitely the word.
i know this is the PTP boards and we have random ppl from the 'industry' up in here, but...realistically speaking, that is an assload of money. an assload.
if the size of the ass was like...as big as a continent.
btw this is purely lookin at it from outside the bubble of the entertainment world. of which the overriding opinion is (and should be) that those amounts earned are completely ridiculous and over-the-top. u can't really spin it any other way, and it's made to look even MORE ridiculous when u consider the extended cast of nobodys that work their asses off in the background or behind the scenes and get paid jackshit in comparison.

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can't stand to see someone be degraded because they disagreed with an amount owed on a bill to to fix a septic tank.

I'm not going to say I can't be friends with people who watch their show but it does make it would make it hard. Same goes for RHO whereever or the Khardasians, Honey boo boo, Dog the bounty hunter, etc, etc

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reminds me why i stopped watchin it a decade ago lol. back in high school it was hilarious. but now? approaching 30? shits just mean-spirited. and in terms of judges, she's a pretty horrible one.

then again if anyone who willingly went on that show thinking they were guna get a fair and balanced ruling by a fair and (mentally) balanced judge..is a dope. and is wanting to be on tv. and deserves to be ridiculed on a global level whilst Judith cashes her cheques.

but holy crap, 40+mil tho? didnt know she was rakin it in like THAT.

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I may have to put up with her bullshit. these shows pay the judgements. But I would try to fuck with Judge Alex or Mathis first

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>reminds me why i stopped watchin it a decade ago lol. back in
>high school it was hilarious. but now? approaching 30? shits
>just mean-spirited. and in terms of judges, she's a pretty
>horrible one.

oh, the irony

>then again if anyone who willingly went on that show thinking
>they were guna get a fair and balanced ruling by a fair and
>(mentally) balanced judge..is a dope. and is wanting to be on
>tv. and deserves to be ridiculed on a global level whilst
>Judith cashes her cheques.

smh


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..and miles to go before i sleep...

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..that's exactly why the show became such a popular franchise


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i mean, i dont subtract myself from that category at.all.
definitely enjoyed my share of Judith.
was pretty much must-see TV wenevr i came home from school around 3 in the afternoon. she was basically like a cranky Golden Girl.
with a robe and gavel.
but such a big difference in the way i recieve her schtick NOW compared to back then cos...i actually have bills now..and rent...and all sortsa financial related issues that a supposed 'adult' is supposed to have at this age..supposedly.
thus my railing tirade against her.
and her WAGE on top of it lol.
my gawd.

i swear i could do her job.
or at last a good impersonation of her.
i used to have an idea for a parody called "Judge Booty".
somewhat similar to Jim Carey's talking ass bits from Ace Ventura.
cept it still sounds like Judith, voice-wise, but looks like my ass, image-wise.

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>i swear i could do her job.
>or at last a good impersonation of her.

plenty of people say shit like this about a variety of seemingly simple professions (esp in the world of entertainment). yet, most of them never consider the work, skill, time, & discipline it took for that person to GET to that position.

i know that "judge judy" the tv personality might not have the hardest job in the world, but it isn't easy either (and it certainly wasn't easy getting there).

in the past year alone, i've watched people quit great paying jobs in entertainment because of the long hours and often rigorous scheduling demands. union jobs that they had to work hard to get in the first place. being on set is far from a glamorous life.


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..and miles to go before i sleep...

...and i dont mean to denigrate an entire art form (ok maybe i do a little bit), but i'm not debating that it's just as hard a job as any other. and that a lot of the ppl on top and earning huge dosh don't deserve to be in a comfy position in life. i'm simply saying...does $41million sound like a REASONABLE yearly paycheck to you? lol. cos it sure as shit dont to me.

but its not like i can just point this finger at acting alone, this is just a stance i have on ALL artforms that hold up a select bunch as their bastions cos they piss money all over em constantly. sports too.

like, how bout throwing some of those big bucks towards some regular folk who also work their fucking asses off doing shitty hours? MOSTLY at a job they could give two fucks about, let alone a job where i get to do shit i did when i was pissfarting around with my video camera when i was a teen, cept at a professional level (clearly i'm simplifying like a muhfuh but u get my gist).

my argument in this poast (and i guess in general) is the bloated amount of money we heap on entertainers, in stark contrast to the meager sum non-entertainers earn at their jobs. in that regard, paying someone $41million to host or star in a tv show sounds utterly RIDICULOUS. and i know i know, the stars getting paid sums that big are arguably the leaders of their specific subgenre. but still...

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>like, how bout throwing some of those big bucks towards some
>regular folk who also work their fucking asses off doing
>shitty hours? MOSTLY at a job they could give two fucks about,
>let alone a job where i get to do shit i did when i was
>pissfarting around with my video camera when i was a teen,
>cept at a professional level (clearly i'm simplifying like a
>muhfuh but u get my gist).

most entertainers are regular folk with talent and a considerable draw that they've earned over a number of years of hard work and dedication to their craft. how is that different than any other job?

>my argument in this poast (and i guess in general) is the
>bloated amount of money we heap on entertainers, in stark
>contrast to the meager sum non-entertainers earn at their
>jobs. in that regard, paying someone $41million to host or
>star in a tv show sounds utterly RIDICULOUS. and i know i
>know, the stars getting paid sums that big are arguably the
>leaders of their specific subgenre. but still...

so your stance is not that they don't work hard, but that you think the amount they're paid is ridiculous? 40 mil a year is small change compared to what that show has made for the network on syndication rights alone. its all based on scale. the bigger the draw, the bigger the reward. while i don't pretend that its anywhere close to the amount of money most people earn in general, i don't think its cool to discredit someone who found a way to maximize their earning potential in a career they love.

there is potential for greatness in every profession on this earth. those who master that potential reap huge rewards.



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Which is also pretty good for a cable network show.

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And Stewart only works four day a week and for around 26 or so minutes per episode, versus the five days a week/40 or 50 or so minutes that Leno and Letterman worked for years now. Very very interesting.

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not sure about Leno.

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>And Stewart only works four day a week and for around 26 or
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he just might be doing 12 hours days

cramming that amount of comedy into 4 days?
i feel bad for the writers

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when you read articles that say the 1% has seen their salary rise significantly over the past decade, please remember these folk are part of the 1%. they are vastly overpaid for what they do.


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There's a reason these people are making this much money. Because they are generating even more money for someone else.

You're vastly over jealous.

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LOL

so fuck those salaries.

fuck you.

Joe and Jane Lunchpail measuring sweat equity is always... interesting

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and managers who negotiate these deals with these networks and studios and production companies. These cats have leveraged Ashton's previous success and name recognition into his current wage.

I happen to believe that Ashton Kutcher is funny...

... as a supporting actor, but not as a lead. That 70's Show was perfect for him because he could play the background. I don't believe he can carry a show as the lead.

But I'm not going to sit up and question whether or not he "deserves" his salary, or question how hard he works, or has worked, to earn it.

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they should be busy kissing their clients asses for getting the easiest money they'll ever get. I like Ashton too but I haven't seen him carry a movie that was a box office hit. he's shared billing with Heigl, Portman & Diaz so That 70s Show must have been a monster hit. he sitting on a flop as I type as the top billing



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It's lazy, deer-in-the-cage shooting by the public, actors are easy targets

Especially the ones we "don't like" and feel "don't deserve" what they're earning

But they wouldn't earn what they're earning without the people who negotiate those deals in the first place.

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as you?

lol...i already know the answer.

i guess a better question is WHY do _you_ display such distaste for your audience?

fuck you.

I have do disdain for lazy thought and easy target shooting regarding "Hollywood"

So

It'd be cool if we could not make this about me, though

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cool.

fuck you.

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fuck you.

..why not be upset with the studios and the people who run them for agreeing to pay them as much?

BUT WAIT: THERE'S MORE!!! © infomercial

when the dust settles and people truly begin to focus on the source most people would probably be a bit surprised and understandably upset with THEMSELVES.

why?

because the public sets the tone, since they tune in every night and race to the box office to support concerts, tv, & film.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7E8dge7H8Y


..and miles to go before i sleep...

fuck you.

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lol

fuck you.

a. sports leagues

i refuse to short shrift players when owners and leagues are getting way way way more

b. i knew about the supposed "over night" from way back watching paris hilton and kim kardashian put in work
i'm talking late 90s early00's i spotted them coming on the scene and wondered

but learned my lesson again from diddy that if you work it right
anything can happen with zero talent

YES work believe it or not
them girl plotted and schemed and worked

i'm like if it took that for THEM?

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...there are good reasons some actors get paid more in certain formats than others....it's not as simple as "___ is a better actor"...i'm not mad at any of em, make ya money...

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Just to put this into perspective... these people are certainly millionaires, but relative to REAL money earners w/in the finance world, they're salaries are a joke.

Oprah, for instance is probably one of the highest paid entertainers in the business averaging about $290 million per year ($139,423 per hour)

James Cameron makes about $210 million per year ($100,962 per hour)

Philippe Dauman, CEO of Viacom nets $84.5 million per year ($40,625 per hour)



Even though this seems like crazy money to us, Top Hedge-Fund managers trump these numbers...



John Paulson, Paulson & Co, earns $4.9 billion per year ($2,355,769 per hour)

Ray Dalio, Bridgewater Associates, earns $3.1 billion annually ($1,490,385 per hour)

Jim Simons, Renaissance Technologies, earns $2.5 billion annually ($1,201,923 per hour)

...and the list goes on..

If one of these guys woke up making Ashton Kutcher money, they'd probably commit suicide.

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