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"The Act of Killing (Oppenheimer, 2013; prod. by Herzog & Morris)"
Wed Jul-24-13 05:32 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

This shit looks intense, yo. It's a documentary about Anwar Congo. He was an Indonesian death squad leader after Suharto seized power in a military coup. The filmmakers have him vividly recreate his killings. I'm not sure if this is exploitative or glamorization, but I can't wait to see this movie

http://youtu.be/cTozJLf-Px0

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Doubt I'll be able to watch this one
May 26th 2013
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RE: Doubt I'll be able to watch this one
May 26th 2013
2
      Yeah, genocide for some reason really upsets me.
May 26th 2013
3
Friday in LA: Herzog and the director doing Q&As.
Jul 24th 2013
4
wasn't that interested but the trailer was insane
Jul 24th 2013
5
one of a kind
Jul 30th 2013
6
Never seen anything quite like this.
Aug 01st 2013
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agreed. so many threads to pull from.
Aug 06th 2013
8
a movie within a movie within a movie.
Aug 06th 2013
9
Curb Your Genocidal Enthusiasm.
Sep 05th 2013
10
Now on Netflix Streaming
Jan 17th 2014
11
Good look.
Jan 17th 2014
12
I just can't celebrate this film
Aug 17th 2014
13

BennyTenStack
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1. "Doubt I'll be able to watch this one"
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The DC Sniper
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2. "RE: Doubt I'll be able to watch this one"
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Because you're a pussy or you just don't have theaters near you that play docs?

Also, can zootown or frank longo correct my subject title? (prod by Werner Herzog & Errol Morris)

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BennyTenStack
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3. "Yeah, genocide for some reason really upsets me."
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Seeing it graphically recreated is not on my top 1,000 things to do list this month.

  

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Frank Longo
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4. "Friday in LA: Herzog and the director doing Q&As."
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I wish with all my heart I could be there.

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will_5198
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Wed Jul-24-13 05:28 PM

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5. "wasn't that interested but the trailer was insane"
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agreed in that I wonder how the documentary will characterize him

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RandomFact
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Tue Jul-30-13 01:32 PM

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6. "one of a kind"
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it you like documentaries this is a must see. nothing like it. i won't spoil anything here but yeah, the movie is intense/depressing/funny/surreal/informal.

in reference to herzog, i was at the q&a last friday in la and werner explained how he was on board with the executive producer credit to help promote the film via name recognition. he also had some editing input. oppenheimer showed him eight minutes of footage in an airport and herzog decided that the film would be a "masterwork of cinema" (it is).

  

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The Analyst
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7. "Never seen anything quite like this."
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Thu Aug-01-13 10:17 PM by The Analyst

  

          

Fuck.

Incredibly haunting, on multiple levels.

This shit aims to explore nothing less than the nature of evil, the prism through we view morality, the strength (and lasting impact) of state propaganda, the corrupt nature of authoritarian governments, the ways societies cope (or not) in the wake of genocide, mental illness (delusions of grandeur, denial, depression, PTSD), not to mention the power and influence of cinema itself (as well as its potential for catharsis), and more.

Audacious.

Won't be forgetting this one any time soon, especially the ending, which had me absolutely gripped.







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will_5198
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8. "agreed. so many threads to pull from."
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Tue Aug-06-13 04:58 PM by will_5198

          

simply as a recollection of events, it'd be captivating. but the additional layers of meta put into an even greater context.

it's also the blackest comedy I've ever seen. there are generous portions of the movie that are shockingly, legitimately funny.

as said, absolutely one of a kind.

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9. "a movie within a movie within a movie."
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an extraordinary display of the power of cinema. some 50 years ago, Western films gave Indonesian killers the style (and disfigured rationale) to execute their murders -- life imitating art. now aged and unrepentant, the same killers use film to recreate those atrocities -- art imitating, then becoming life, in revelatory ways.

seeing that process is incredibly surreal, especially the day-to-day glimpses of death squad leaders who never had to face their own crimes. a middle-aged man who orphaned dozens, hundreds of children, now staring disconnectedly while his teenage daughter takes selfies in the mall. another of his comrades speaking casually of raping and killing 14-year-olds, with remorse only for the fact he can no longer do it. even the best fictional minds couldn't think up, or get away with, some of the imagery and allegories here.

all of these moments are made possible by the lure of creating a film -- whether it's a paramilitary leader taken aback by the ferocity his men show when reenacting a genocide scene, or Anwar watching what his own actions look like on the screen. Anwar's reaction to his starring role, and the emotion that brings, reminded me of a quote from another director, Steve McQueen:

"That's what cinema is all about...it's got to be about an urgency, a necessity. Like a dog whistle going off. All you need is an hour and a half...you can hit people on the head right there. Cinema's amazing, isn't it?"

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Frank Longo
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10. "Curb Your Genocidal Enthusiasm."
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Bowled me over. Not only horrific, but also brutally funny at times.

This is a must-see for anyone anywhere. Good lord.

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11. "Now on Netflix Streaming"
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12. "Good look."
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13. "I just can't celebrate this film"
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i mean, i don't know what i mean...

it took me three sittings to watch this over the course of some months. i very rarely felt so much hate for the people on screen...

i felt no remorse as Anwar finally felt the horror of his murders. and those fat fuckers, i hope they die slow brutal deaths

yes it was surreal, and what ever other adjectives y'all/critics have showered it with, but i don't know man...

the scenes when villagers were "asked" to participate in scenes and the terror they "acted out", it made me sick.

humans are so fucn terrible in places throughout time yo. this felt a bit to first world voyeuristic for my taste.

  

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