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"Name some of the most thought-provoking American films"


  

          

What are some of the most mentally challenging American films you've ever seen? Films that outright challenge you to put together the pieces, and have no pity if you got lost somewhere along the way.

I say strictly American films because challenging American films are not the norm.

Mulholland Drive.

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Don't know if you'll like these:
May 28th 2012
1
Man, I read that as Point Break at first
May 28th 2012
2
The Conversation is the only one I've seen
May 28th 2012
3
      I interpreted your inquiry differently from everyone else, though. Don't
May 29th 2012
21
           Yeah I was thinking along your lines...but either way is good
May 30th 2012
30
Primer
May 28th 2012
4
I was completely lost after the fist hour
Jun 05th 2012
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      I almost walked out after the first forty-five minutes
Jun 06th 2012
80
I was going to come in and say just about any film by Altman
May 28th 2012
5
Lonestar
May 28th 2012
6
No Country For Old Men. Take Shelter. Punch Drunk Love.
May 28th 2012
7
No Country For Old Men
May 29th 2012
14
YES on Assassination of Jesse James
May 31st 2012
34
It's not the norm anywhere, really
May 28th 2012
8
Anything Malick
May 28th 2012
9
a few
May 28th 2012
10
n/m
May 29th 2012
11
Requiem had me questioning my entire existence lol
May 29th 2012
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lol
May 29th 2012
13
yeah it did.
May 29th 2012
15
Me too.
May 29th 2012
22
Robocop
May 29th 2012
16
re-watching that as an Adult
May 31st 2012
35
lots of good ones listed.
May 29th 2012
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Meek's Cutoff is a recent one.
May 29th 2012
18
it's sad how much that movie got overlooked
May 29th 2012
20
that movie was trash
May 31st 2012
32
apocolypto
May 29th 2012
19
GOTTA agree on Apocalypto - that shit was intense.
May 31st 2012
38
even though i hate this film, does it count?
Jun 03rd 2012
55
chris nolan's kinda got this with prestige/memento/inception.
May 29th 2012
23
i feel like inception was trying too hard for that
May 30th 2012
28
Following comes pretty close, too
May 30th 2012
29
The prestige is a MARVELOUS film.
May 31st 2012
39
hell yeah man. his best film imo.
Jun 05th 2012
68
This is not a good thing. Its a dumbass gimmick
Jun 06th 2012
78
The Insomnia remake had it's moments too
May 31st 2012
40
Christopher Nolan isn't American + is a pretentious bore
Jun 03rd 2012
56
      LOFL
Jun 04th 2012
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           Nolan will end up exposed as the great fraud of our time.
Jun 06th 2012
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how did Donnie Darko not show up in this list yet?
May 29th 2012
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If you provoke thought, you shouldn't be exposed by it
May 29th 2012
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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
May 29th 2012
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does it count?
May 31st 2012
36
      Word...I almost said...
Jun 01st 2012
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      But the script is by an American and was made in America
Jun 05th 2012
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i'm surprised you guys didn't tear this guy a new one
May 29th 2012
27
*sips frappe lattechino*
May 30th 2012
31
Films by...
May 31st 2012
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do the right thing
May 31st 2012
37
Groundhog Day
May 31st 2012
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Yeah, that's deep nm
May 31st 2012
42
I can't tell if you're being serious or not
Jun 01st 2012
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      Funny, I felt the same way about your post
Jun 01st 2012
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      I'm having difficulty following your referents
Jun 01st 2012
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           Post #41
Jun 01st 2012
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      That's an outstanding swipe...
Jun 01st 2012
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      There was a one-off conference dedicated to it a few years ago
Jun 01st 2012
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           This made me laugh out loud.
Jun 01st 2012
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      Yea I've actually read...
Jun 01st 2012
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      thanks
Jun 04th 2012
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Easily one of the best films of the last 25 years.
Jun 04th 2012
62
Isn't Kubrick English?
Jun 02nd 2012
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Kubrick was a New Yorker and he made his first films
Jun 02nd 2012
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Mulholland Drive = Lynch
Jun 02nd 2012
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      RE: Mulholland Drive = Lynch
Jun 05th 2012
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I, Robot.
Jun 03rd 2012
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i love that movie
Jun 03rd 2012
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Only insecure nerds hate iRobot.
Jun 03rd 2012
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its asimov
Jun 04th 2012
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      Right, but its *not* Asimov, which is why it was a great movie.
Jun 04th 2012
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The Matrix
Jun 04th 2012
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yep
Jun 04th 2012
66
The Shawshank Redemption
Jun 04th 2012
63
V for Vendetta
Jun 05th 2012
69
Pi, Traffic, The Limey, Smoke, Happiness, Crimes & Misdemeanors
Jun 05th 2012
73
Happiness!!!!
Jun 06th 2012
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      Scary as hell but will always spark debate with ppl
Jun 06th 2012
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           argh...now i want to see it
Jun 06th 2012
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           The shit about pedophiles? Seriously?
Jun 06th 2012
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                I never said thought-provoking, I said it's a film that
Jun 06th 2012
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1. "Don't know if you'll like these:"
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Point Blank (Boorman)
3 Women (Altman)
Images (Atlman)
The Last Movie (Hopper)
Petulia (Lester)
Meshes of the Afternoon (Deren)
I'd throw in Coppola's The Conversation as well

  

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2. "Man, I read that as Point Break at first"
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3. "The Conversation is the only one I've seen"
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That movie is incredible

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21. "I interpreted your inquiry differently from everyone else, though. Don't"
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know if they're what you're looking for. Puzzling, dreamy, ambiguous, and/or surrealist narratives (or flourishes) were what I was going for.

  

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30. "Yeah I was thinking along your lines...but either way is good"
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just wanted to see what people come up with.

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4. "Primer"
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70. "I was completely lost after the fist hour"
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all i know is there was a big ass incubator and i'm pretty sure niggas were getting cloned

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80. "I almost walked out after the first forty-five minutes"
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Then I got completely hooked after they saw their doubles

  

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5. "I was going to come in and say just about any film by Altman"
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6. "Lonestar"
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7. "No Country For Old Men. Take Shelter. Punch Drunk Love."
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Really you could say most Coens and PTA stuff.

Can I count Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford since the cast is all American? lol

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14. "No Country For Old Men"
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That movie haunted me for months. Didn't even process it all when I walked out the theater.



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34. "YES on Assassination of Jesse James"
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god damn i love that movie

  

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8. "It's not the norm anywhere, really"
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The American foreign film market makes it seem like all of the other countries focus on serious minded films but it's not so. France's top grossing films are almost always silly comedies. The Artist is more representative of French films than the art house fare.

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9. "Anything Malick"
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10. "a few"
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Kubrick did a lot.

I haven't seen most of Hal Hartley's films, but I thought both Henry Fool and Fay Grimm were quality, thought provoking films.

There's a whole lot of thought provoking American films.

  

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11. "n/m"
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n/m

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12. "Requiem had me questioning my entire existence lol"
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That was so uncomfortable (c) Mike

  

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15. "yeah it did."
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jesus, that was heavy.

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22. "Me too."
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16. "Robocop"
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I'm counting it as American.

The rise of fascism with OCP running the police.
The parallels with the Vietnam war.
The outlandish and outrageous television new casters - who now seem very very tame compare to say, Fox news.
Cyborgs! Robots! I'd buy that for a dollar!


Then add in the ultra-violence (especially the Murphy death scene and the Ed 209 malfunction, Clarence having the chemicals spilled on him and then being run down by the car) and it blew my mind.

  

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35. "re-watching that as an Adult"
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really made me appreciate that film. it was fucn insightful and precient
even if it did have a lot of cheese

  

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17. "lots of good ones listed."
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perhaps I'm missing the point of this thread, as some of my choices were not purposely oblique in their presentation. but these made me think:

There Will Be Blood
Inception*
Syriana
Chinatown
Solaris

*I know, heavy exposition + collapsing logic is not thought-provoking at all. but watching it again, and understanding that the spinning totem is a lie (Nolan's inception on the viewer) -- well, that's a hell of a way to break the fourth wall. it also greatly improves the ending.

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18. "Meek's Cutoff is a recent one."
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Lots of ambiguity about characters and their motives. And the pace is so slow and sometimes monotonous.

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20. "it's sad how much that movie got overlooked"
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32. "that movie was trash"
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miss me with all the ambiguity, subtlety talk

  

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19. "apocolypto"
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38. "GOTTA agree on Apocalypto - that shit was intense."
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55. "even though i hate this film, does it count?"
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non-American cast and non-American space/narrative (don't come in here with that AmericaS shit, yall know what OP meant

  

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23. "chris nolan's kinda got this with prestige/memento/inception."
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28. "i feel like inception was trying too hard for that"
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though i liked it, but memento and prestige just achieved it.

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29. "Following comes pretty close, too"
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It's ultimately too rough around the edges to be that great of a MOVIE, but it definitely had me thinking after it was done.


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39. "The prestige is a MARVELOUS film. "
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I spent two days thinking about it afterwards.

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68. "hell yeah man. his best film imo."
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78. "This is not a good thing. Its a dumbass gimmick "
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>I spent two days thinking about it afterwards.

Jesus, you guys. He does this so that you'll watch
the movie 2 and 3 times

I am literally the only person in this board who seems
to get this


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40. "The Insomnia remake had it's moments too"
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56. "Christopher Nolan isn't American + is a pretentious bore"
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n/m

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67. "LOFL"
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i was waiting for some one to say "he's a fucn Brit guys"

i actually do like/love most of his movies, but repeated viewings always show glaring flaws and take away much of their initial emotional/cinematic resonance IMO

  

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77. "Nolan will end up exposed as the great fraud of our time. "
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>i was waiting for some one to say "he's a fucn Brit guys"
>
>i actually do like/love most of his movies, but repeated
>viewings always show glaring flaws and take away much of their
>initial emotional/cinematic resonance IMO

He has no problem having gaping ass flaws in his movies

Its almost pathetic at this stage

His movies do look pretty, though



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24. "how did Donnie Darko not show up in this list yet?"
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I thought you kids loved that movie.

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26. "If you provoke thought, you shouldn't be exposed by it"
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Donny supposedly being a kind of superhero just made me laugh out loud that dude was just making shit up as he went along.

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25. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind."
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36. "does it count?"
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Gondry is a french man

  

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49. "Word...I almost said..."
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in the body of my post "I'm not even sure who directed it, or whatever. But I thought it was American made...

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72. "But the script is by an American and was made in America"
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The director created the visual aspect but the film would still be thought-provoking on the story-line alone

  

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27. "i'm surprised you guys didn't tear this guy a new one"
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O_E or Bas musta passed on this one.

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31. "*sips frappe lattechino*"
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33. "Films by..."
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Spike Lee
Paul Thomas Anderson
Darren Aronofsky
some Coen flicks
Malik (even though i don't like most of his shit)
Kubrick (master, even though i really only LOVE two of his movies)

and i guess i need to step my Altman game up

  

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37. "do the right thing"
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fight club
tree of life
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requium for a dream
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41. "Groundhog Day"
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It's gonna be cold. It's gonna be gray. And it's gonna last you the rest of your life.

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42. "Yeah, that's deep nm"
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43. "I can't tell if you're being serious or not"
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It led off the 2003 series at the MoMA called "Hidden God: Film and Faith,." I have a friend whose job description is "ethicist" who thinks it's one of the most important engagements with the idea of the divine that he's ever seen.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/07/style/groundhog-almighty.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Groundhog Almighty
By ALEX KUCZYNSKI
Published: December 07, 2003
Correction Appended

A NEW movie series from the Museum of Modern Art, ''The Hidden God: Film and Faith,'' features some pretty brooding stuff. There's a 1955 Danish movie about a man who thinks he is Jesus Christ, an Ingmar Bergman pastiche about a tormented pastor, a Roberto Rossellini movie about monks. These are, of course, the ''intellectual with a capital I'' films that audiences might expect at a religious-theme retrospective organized by a major museum. Subtitles and all that fancy stuff.

With one exception. On Thursday, the opening-night feature at the Gramercy Theater, where the series is being presented, was ''Groundhog Day,'' the 1993 movie starring Bill Murray as a sarcastic television weatherman forced by a twist of fate and magic to relive one day of his life, Feb. 2, over and over.

Since its debut a decade ago, the film has become a curious favorite of religious leaders of many faiths, who all see in ''Groundhog Day'' a reflection of their own spiritual messages. Curators of the series, polling some 35 critics in the literary, religious and film worlds to suggest films with religious interpretations, found that ''Groundhog Day'' came up so many times that there was actually a squabble over who would write about it in the retrospective's catalog.

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44. "Funny, I felt the same way about your post"
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Also, thanks for posting the link to the article AFTER the initial one

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45. "I'm having difficulty following your referents "
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>Also, thanks for posting the link to the article AFTER the
>initial one

My initial post? Or an initial article? I genuinely don't understand what you mean here.

And I was serious about "Groundhog Day." It's a wonderful movie that's inspired a ton of academic attention. That's not necessarily a sign of a film's worthiness, but because the original subject post asked about "thought provoking" movies it seemed like a good choice because we have tangible evidence of thought being provoked. A bunch of people paid to think (tenured doofuses, but still) found it worth discussing.

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47. "Post #41"
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Point being, if you wanted that response and the quote in it to be taken seriously, you should have put the article link THERE instead of after my response

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46. "That's an outstanding swipe..."
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Great article. Thanks.

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48. "There was a one-off conference dedicated to it a few years ago"
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I can't manage to find a link to it, but my aforementioned ethicist friend was absolutely delighted that a bunch of his fellow theology nerds were getting as into the movie as he was.

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51. "This made me laugh out loud."
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>a bunch of his
>fellow theology nerds

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50. "Yea I've actually read..."
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a NUMBER of theories about Groundhog Day which made me reconsider my initial thoughts about it. Which is to say originally I just thought it was an awesome comedy. But I've read articles like this (the spiritual side of it) as well as the deeper meaning behind the intellectual growth of a man within the story.

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64. "thanks"
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62. "Easily one of the best films of the last 25 years."
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http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-long-and-late-movie-show/id498789655

http://twitter.com/RussellHFilm
http://thepasswordisswordfish.com
http://letterboxd.com/russellhfilm/films/diary/by/release/

  

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52. "Isn't Kubrick English?"
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Nobody has mentioned David Lynch yet? I would say Deathproof, oh well.

The combination made my eyes bleed.

  

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53. "Kubrick was a New Yorker and he made his first films"
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in the USA. But he moved to the UK after his first few films and was then considered to have not identified as being an American/New Yorker anymore at some point, though I read he loved/watched American football and probably other American/New York things he left behind as he lived in the UK for all those years.

  

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54. "Mulholland Drive = Lynch"
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71. "RE: Mulholland Drive = Lynch"
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Overlooked that detail. Pretty sloppy of me there.

The combination made my eyes bleed.

  

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57. "I, Robot. "
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Don't be mad.

Its been scientifically proven to be true.



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58. "i love that movie"
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i didn't know people hated on that movie until i started posting here a few years ago

  

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59. "Only insecure nerds hate iRobot. "
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>i didn't know people hated on that movie until i started
>posting here a few years ago

To everyone else, its one of the best Sci-Fi movies
of the past 20 years.



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60. "its asimov"
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like vonnegut and PKD
they tend to get passes on that aspect
esp because some people have read the stories before the movies
so they understand

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65. "Right, but its *not* Asimov, which is why it was a great movie. "
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>like vonnegut and PKD
>they tend to get passes on that aspect
>esp because some people have read the stories before the
>movies
>so they understand

It was the perfect kind of remake:

It left the original book alone, took some essential
philosophical elements (the robot laws) and spun it in a
more relevant and modern context, one compatible with a
Sci-Fi action movie.

It was splendid.

Also, 90% of the people who whine about Asimov and
the movie never read the books.

  

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61. "The Matrix"
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lalalalalalalala
dont care what yall say



The Prestige
Fight Club
The Usual Suspects

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66. "yep"
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63. "The Shawshank Redemption"
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69. "V for Vendetta"
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took two viewings to really "get it."

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73. "Pi, Traffic, The Limey, Smoke, Happiness, Crimes & Misdemeanors "
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Apocalypse Now
George Washington
The Last Temptation of Christ
Who's That Knocking At My Door
25th Hour

  

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74. "Happiness!!!!"
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such a fantastic film

  

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75. "Scary as hell but will always spark debate with ppl"
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I've recommended it to friends always and some I swear almost stopped talking to me after

  

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76. "argh...now i want to see it"
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79. "The shit about pedophiles? Seriously? "
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>I've recommended it to friends always and some I swear almost
>stopped talking to me after

WTF was "thought provoking" about that?

Shit sucked


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81. "I never said thought-provoking, I said it's a film that"
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sparked debate. Which can be anything from the film had no redeeming qualities to is being a pedophile a choice or born that way and what should someone do if they are to what is the purpose of marriage in today's society. Again like I said above, the film isn't for everyone and have had many friends mad at me for suggesting they watch it (Guy and girl) while other ppl can't understand anything controversial about it (I think they were just trying to seem more intelligent by saying that b/c I never bought it).

  

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