This looks pretty fucking hilarious
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Looks Sandleresque.

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... although as much as I love SBC, the Ali G movie makes me nervous about him doing a comedy outside the "Borat" format.

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Differences of opinion are easily accepted.

But how in the HELL is anything to do with this concept somehow 'Sandleresque'?

From what I can see...Cohen has amalgamated characteristics from Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Il, Adolf Hitler, etc to make a below-the-radar, lo-budget parody. Adam Sandler became a kabillionaire off kid movies.

Granted, IMO, SB Cohen is a comic genius. Bruno is criminally underated and Borat was wholely deserving of it's critical acclaim. I'm also aware that lots of people don't like him.

But Sandleresque? Why for?

I guess I just...won't. Sorry you don't get it.

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There's obviously something about Sandler's movies/career I'm unaware of and with which you've compared SBC. What is it?

I could see a comparison between Sandler and Eddie Murphey. They both decided to make friendly-friendly movies to make lots of money instead of catering to their initial market niche.

Hopefully, there's something more to your comparison other than 'they started out funny but now they're not'. Cause that's really vague and non-specific. There's a million comedians you could make that comparison with. Why Sandler?

In which one of the central premises is "people who live overseas are super weird, and that's funny!"

I liked Borat a lot because it examined an eccentric but essentially well-intentioned foreigner and showed how average Americans respond to foreigners, not to mention exposed what many Americans think of foreigners. It felt original, fresh, and unscripted.

I thought in Bruno, his character was one-dimensional. Plus, he couldn't satirize Americans for being intolerant of homosexuality, because instead of making his gay character eccentric but essentially well-intentioned, he made him an over-the-top extremely loud dickhead. People weren't intolerant of Bruno because he was gay... they were intolerant because he was intolerable. Additionally, celebrity cameos reek of being secretly scripted in Bruno.

This new one looks similarly one-note to me. Clearly scripted celebrity cameos. Not sure what new satirical spin he can give mocking a Ghadafi/Jong-Il-like character-- that they're flamboyant and that's weird? People in power overseas are strangely corrupt? It's just a very one-note trailer: SBC plays a weirdo who speaks in a foreign accent, mocks celebrities, and makes people uncomfortable.

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I've never heard of Zohan.

I think your critique of Bruno applies to some of the film but not all of it. For example....I didn't understand why he would go after Ron Paul and actually sympathized with Paul when I saw it.

But the fashion show got what it deserved. Those UFC people got what they deserved. That wrestling team jock0homo guys got what they deserved. Paula Abdul got what she deserved.

It's been awhile since I've seen it...but there might have been another incident/victim like Paul which was more obnoxious than funny. I remember thinking the same thing when he goes to the military. But for what it's worth....Borat crossed that line a couple times too. Victimizing innocent people which makes the joke fall flat. However, he gets it right more often than wrong imo.

everyone was in on the joke. and Bruno is not interesting enough for 90 minutes, like Borat was.

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Couldn't have been EVERYBODY.

It'd be interesting to find out who.

I can assure the following weren't:

Ron Paul
UFC crowd
The fashion show
the wrestling team
Paula Abdul
The National Guard

I mean...that's the meat of the movie. I doubt Harrison Ford was in on it and there would be no reason to have the research sample of people watching the pilot in on the joke.

The only thing I can think of (again, it's been awhile) was the Springer-like talk show thing. In which case, it's still subversive cause the audience doesn't know it's actually a film.

because real or not, everything looked very manufactured -- and as a result, very unfunny. fashion show got old in literally one minute. the O.J. baby was outlandish and sitcom-esque. dumb shit like the Gastineau girl scene or swinger party.

the only Borat-worthy, raw moment was the MMA match.

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I don't remember the gastineau scene but the swinger one didn't seem staged...However the swinger part probly falls into what Frank was saying about being obnoxious. Why bug those people? They're not hurting anyone.

I think you'd be pretty hard-pressed to call any of it staged except for the talk-show. I'd agree that it was a weaker part of the movie in terms of laughs because he's making a satire of something that's already a satire to begin with. Though the scene did develop on one of the running themes of modern celebrity. The idea that Bruno would adapt an African baby to become famous is pretty funny but I'd agree it wasn't executed properly.

But yah....the critique that the jokes were staged doesn't hold water for me.

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She threatened to sue and gave an interview about how horrible it was. She was clearly on drugs during the filming and she admitted that she was feeling 'foggy' from some 'prescribed' meds.

And why would she agree to something like that?

As in Larry Charles

I'm guessing that all the really naughty bits are the funniest, because I only laughed at the last jokes with the relay race, as wrong as it may be

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but yea, the race is pretty hilarious in spite of the rest of it

So you are laughing your ass off but also think it's awful?

>So you are laughing your ass off but also think it's awful?

suck

wait for netflix/bootleg or something

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I wish I was genuinely asking a question here. I wish I cared if you were to respond with a reasonable reply. I wish many countries in Africa and the middle east weren't run by dictators.

Also, I wish that an idiot wouldn't reply with the suggestion that George Bush was 'just as bad' as Idi Amin.

It's 'racist' to make fun of dictators? Those guilty of genocide, mass murder and unspeakable crimes against humanity?

I wish I didn't take you seriously. Then again, this clip wouldn't be half as funny without you or you're wayward support of evil-doings.

Yes....by claiming such statements made in this clip are 'racist'....you are waywardly supporting evil-doings.

hohoho.

>Yes....by claiming such statements made in this clip are
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By characterizing any critique of dictators from middle eastern/muslim/African descent as being racist.....you are excusing them from moral culpability....or at the very least, silencing those that wish to expose their atrocities committed.

And you spelled 'what' wrong.

this isn't some layered critique of oppressive regimes. it's a silly spoof movie filled with what looks to be jokes an 8th grader would make about arabs. which i wouldn't care about if it actually looked funny

it's not really a stretch for someone to look at a trailer filled with bunch of jokes about terrorists, and "aaccchhh" sounds to think its at very least, culturally insensitive, considering we live in a country where it's already generally acceptable to openly hate muslims

the idea that that somehow translates to supporting dictators is even dumber than this movie looks

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>this isn't some layered critique of oppressive regimes. it's
>a silly spoof movie filled with what looks to be jokes an 8th
>grader would make about arabs. which i wouldn't care about if
>it actually looked funny

It certainly DOES look like a layered critique of oppressive regimes. Neither of us have seen it yet...but Borat and Bruno addressed homophobia, cultural naivety, racism, war and many other issues of the like. ('Throw the Jew down the well', 'My asshole is just for shitting', 'Thank you for the war of terror', Paula Abdul sitting on a Mexican, I could go on)

The reason the relay race is so funny...that is what dictators do. In all facets of life.

>it's not really a stretch for someone to look at a trailer
>filled with bunch of jokes about terrorists, and "aaccchhh"
>sounds to think its at very least, culturally insensitive,
>considering we live in a country where it's already generally
>acceptable to openly hate muslims

Yah....making fun of dictators and terrorists is not culturally insensitive. If you're offended....you may be an idiot. Muslims don't like dictators either.

>the idea that that somehow translates to supporting dictators
>is even dumber than this movie looks

You've already stated here that it is culturally insensitive to satarize terrorists. If I were to say something like 'it's not appropriate to satarize George Bush'...I think it's pretty easy to deduce such a statement waywardly SUPPORTS George Bush.

>It certainly DOES look like a layered critique of oppressive
>regimes.

it's quite possible that trailer doesn't do it justice, but if you think that trailer certainly looks like some layered critique, there's no point in taking you seriously... about anything.

>You've already stated here that it is culturally insensitive
>to satarize terrorists.

yeah, nice try at twisting my words here

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>it's quite possible that trailer doesn't do it justice, but if
>you think that trailer certainly looks like some layered
>critique, there's no point in taking you seriously... about
>anything.

The trailer addresses several layers of this prototypical dictator. Firstly, the irony that we take them so seriously despite these strangely silly personas they undertake. Even though they often claim to be the last defense against American imperialism...they have obsessive fetishes with American culture. Sadam and his brothers were conneiseurs of american porn. Gaddafi paid Nelly Furtado 1 million dollars to perform at his birthday. Kim Jong Il loved American kitsch.

The relay race is brilliant. Don't know how plainly you could make that point. He shot the guy with the starter pistol. hohoho. Ain't my fault you can't see two feet in front of your face.

I have no idea why you're comparing me to Sean Hannity. I don't know anything about that guy. By all means....try to compensate for your lack of substance by appealing to projections and associations.

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As far as the whole 'dickeater' thing goes.....that was one isolated incident.

And also, everytime you carelessly accuse someone of being racist a helpless afghani child loses her clitoris.

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And the AIDS line.
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UFC crowd members crying because two men are kissing?

Sorry, Bruno was a triumph. The only misstep SBC made was the Ali G movie. His show was awesome. Borat was awesome. Bruno was awesome. His supporting character appearances have been awesome. Can't wait to see him play Freddie Mercury.

I wonder where this backlash is coming from. It confuses me. He's hip as hip could be.

I loved the show but his movies are getting less & less funny & so far this one doesn't appear to be any better from that trailer

I haven't watched the Ali G flick in a long time....and to be honest, I don't think I got through the whole thing.

So why do people not like Bruno? The climax of the movie had me choking for air. The fact that it was 'real' made it more painfully funny. I seriously couldn't stop giggling for two days. It could only be pulled off in the confines of a cage. hohoho. I'm laughing just thinking about it.

I know gay people who didn't like it...people that I normally agree with about comedy didn't like it....also people who liked borat but didn't like bruno. It's somewhat confusing to me. I thought it was brilliant. Borat and Bruno stand out to me as a definitive comedy franchise of the 00's.

Edit: Another comedy franchise of the 00's for me that not everyone might dig....the dude (not gonna look up his name) who did 'Fubar', 'It's all gone Pete Tong' and 'Fubar 2'.

That's 5 comedy movies from the 00's that I love and have a similar documentary-like narrative. Add in Werner Herzog's 'grizzly man' and you got 6. It's probably me.

I haven't seen the Ali G flick in awhile but I was hard-pressed not to leave the theater before Bruno ended. Maybe that character just doesn't suit a full length film. It had it's moments but they were very few & far between.

I'd say SBC's schtick has some more serious undertones than something like 'the hangover'. For me, hangover is really overappreciated. I'd see the silly critique on that.

But SBC has a subversive thing that's more thought-provoking to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU8nhHYlQ-I

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>That's 5 comedy movies from the 00's that I love and have a
>similar documentary-like narrative. Add in Werner Herzog's
>'grizzly man' and you got 6. It's probably me.

hahahaha. Do you think it was an intentional comedy or did you just find it hilarious? If its the latter then I would say yes its definitely you.



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Isnt' that clear? I called it a comedy.

this just shows you how different tastes are... because as much as I love SBC that Ali G flick is one of the worst things I've ever seen. Bruno can be uncomfortable at times but it's 100X better than Ali G imo.
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But yeah as far as tastes in general I've always liked the Ali G character better than Bruno

if it was about being old no way would I be saying I liked the movie Bruno more than Ali G... and I never said I didn't like the character Ali G. I actually like that character more than bruno but we were talking about the movies here.

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>if it was about being old no way would I be saying I liked
>the movie Bruno more than Ali G...and I never said I didn't
>like the character Ali G. I actually like that character more
>than bruno but we were talking about the movies here.

And the Ali G movie relies on more childish humor.

>next time think it through before you post a lame insult.

Practice what you preach chief & follow the logic before you think someone's insulting you.

So throwing out the "You're Old" shit was either an insult or pointless.


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the relay was the only thing I really laughed at. Really hope he isn't going down the Sandler path.

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I read all these posts before watching the trailer, and I was basically with those of you defending this movie.

Then I saw the trailer.

No, it actually does look kind of offensive.

And not very funny.

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I just found out about this. hilarious.

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Sorry, but I laughed at the 911 bit at the very end

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Don't expect any significant screen time from Reilly or Fox tho. Bobby Lee makes the most of his bit part but unfortunately JB Smoove isn't given the same chance. 90 minute running time was perfect for Cohen & Faris to carry this comedy. Any longer & it would've started dragging.

Coudn't help thinking Das Racist should've made an appearance at some point.

Chick who was like 50 something years old was rolling. I laughed for the first 20 minutes and then I got bored and fell asleep for ten minutes. The speech about American democracy versus dictatorship at the was really fucking funny cause it was true. Otherwise this is some Redbox/Netflix/HBO shit.


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I despised Bruno because it didn't know if it was a mockumentary or feature film. here, Charles and Cohen clearly define the movie as the latter.

however, Aladeen is by far Cohen's worst feature character, and his generic quality forces the script to provide all the jokes, whereas Borat was absurd enough to inspire humor through simple interactions.

luckily Cohen pairs well with Anna Faris, who routinely entertains me no matter how droll her source material is (and I didn't even recognize her with the haircut).

the too seldom barbs at American government were the best parts (although I'm not sure if Cohen's reform of the organic store was a call for better democratic leadership or an actual endorsement for dictatorship on some level). the ending speech was very South Park but true and funny enough.

mediocre, but with my low expectations it nearly surprised me.

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didn't even change it up with fictional borders or anything, just slapped Wadiya right on top of that joint and called it a day.

but yeah fairly funny movie. not SBC's best but had some good moments & is good for some laughs.

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... most people probably have not even heard of Eritrea let-alone where it is. I didn't even know much about Eritrea until I moved to DC.

but yeah, not a good look for them, but maybe it will help boost tourism the way Borat did for Kazakhstan.


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Eritrea's location, small size, and general obscurity make it the perfect place to sub for Wadiya, but I still had that "damn why they gotta do that?" reaction nevertheless.

>but yeah, not a good look for them, but maybe it will help
>boost tourism the way Borat did for Kazakhstan.

Borat boosted tourism in Kazakhstan? wow wouldn't have expected that. but wouldn't happen in Eritrea even if ppl knew wtf it was, unfortunately it's become pretty isolated and closed off, not a very travel friendly destination right now.

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the Wii games had me laughing in a fucked up way and like others said the speech at the end is on point and eerily disturbing with its truth.

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I laughed a lot more than I have at other supposedly funny movies.

it wasn't a waste of money and the satire was biting enough

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No, it doesn't top Borat but I don't know if Cohen has it in him to do so, or even try

The 911 run in the helicopter and his Great Dictator-esque speech at the very end had me dying

And even as the straight man, Anna Faris was still pretty funny

I think I dig her more than I do Emma Stone as far as comedic actresses go

The only real complaint that I had was that I wasn't feeling the "Arab" versions of hip hop/pop songs on the soundtrack... shit was funny the first couple of times but then approached overkill after that

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or the show with the hip hop guy or whatever, but I was surprised how much I was laughing at this one

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>And even as the straight man

I see whatchu did there

, Anna Faris was still pretty
>funny
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>I think I dig her more than I do Emma Stone as far as comedic
>actresses go
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>The only real complaint that I had was that I wasn't feeling
>the "Arab" versions of hip hop/pop songs on the soundtrack...
>shit was funny the first couple of times but then approached
>overkill after that

ALADEEN MUTHAFUCKAAAAAA!!!!!

That 1st one & the last one cracked me up. I don't recall the other ones but remember thinking the same as far as overkill after awhile.

- the helicopter scene is as sharp as anything he's ever done
- the speech at the end
- the birth scene, especially with the vagina-cam
- the stuff in his pockets during the break-in
- the decapitated head humor, while dumb, got me, as did the aliases based on signs

Much of the "shock humor" didn't work for me-- calling Anna Faris a lesbian and calling the black guy "sub-Saharan" over and over or referring to the dumb guy as a goatfucker with no real wit or spin got pretty tired to me.

EASILY the most shocking moment was the Wii game, but since it was handled with wit, it didn't make me cringe, it made me laugh quite hard. Many of the other attempts to shock didn't do much for me.

Supporting cast: Faris was good, and I'm normally not a big fan honestly. Rafi was money, as was Reilly, even though most of his humor was "country white people are racist!" and simplistic-- his responses made that torture scene work though. Kingsley had nothing to do and clearly wasn't comfortable with the tone of the film; they needed him to be more scheming, perhaps more hammy, and instead he was just there to be there. He tried harder in Love Guru. I've been a huge fan of Kathryn Hahn since Step Brothers, and it's always great seeing her... and any time Chris Parnell is on screen, ever, I will laugh.

A big improvement from Bruno, and it should help show Cohen can do more traditional films, even if this was pretty hit-and-miss.

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>EASILY the most shocking moment was the Wii game, but since it
>was handled with wit, it didn't make me cringe, it made me
>laugh quite hard. Many of the other attempts to shock didn't
>do much for me.

I was more shocked by the severed head than the wii game. But I laughed at em both. I liked the breast milk scene too.

>Supporting cast: Faris was good, and I'm normally not a big
>fan honestly. Rafi was money,

Rafi?

as was Reilly, even though most
>of his humor was "country white people are racist!" and
>simplistic-- his responses made that torture scene work
>though. Kingsley had nothing to do and clearly wasn't
>comfortable with the tone of the film; they needed him to be
>more scheming, perhaps more hammy, and instead he was just
>there to be there. He tried harder in Love Guru. I've been a
>huge fan of Kathryn Hahn since Step Brothers, and it's always
>great seeing her... and any time Chris Parnell is on screen,
>ever, I will laugh.

Right there with ya on Hahn & Parnell

>A big improvement from Bruno, and it should help show Cohen
>can do more traditional films, even if this was pretty
>hit-and-miss.

It seems the more hate there is for a Cohen film the more I like it... well accept for that awful Ali G flick.

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Some stuff was meh but some stuff was really good. About on par with Borat and leagues above Bruno.

wasn't going to have more screen time in the movie?

That scene by the way was hands down my favorite part. (the HIV-Aladeen shit)

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