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Subject: "Is Mark Millar and John Romita, Jr.'s Kick-Ass racist?" Previous topic | Next topic
Vaiops2wega
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"Is Mark Millar and John Romita, Jr.'s Kick-Ass racist?"


  

          

Here's an article by Douglas Wolk on the creepy race issues within the comic. I think he's reaching a bit with this, but his criticism certainly isn't unfounded. Click the link on the bottom to read the whole article


I’d like to skip over the problematic actual plot of Kick-Ass here, in part because other people have addressed some of its more dubious elements, but I can’t let its conclusion’s racial politics pass without comment. Dave’s ultimate two-part humiliation in the story’s coda is that the girl he likes is having sex with his (black) schoolmate (“I whacked off at that picture while crying, some nights,” he tells us), and his dad is having sex—on panel, no less—with a (black) woman Dave had tried to rescue earlier. Now, you can look at that two different ways. The less charitable one is that Millar is suggesting that everybody knows that’s the worst thing that could possibly happen to a white kid, and therefore we get to laugh at Dave. Millar’s too smart for that, I think (I hope). The subtler possibility is that since Dave is explicitly presented as a stand-in for the archetypal fanboy—the not-a-jock, not-a-brainiac loser who stocks up on comics every Wednesday—and that since (Millar is suggesting) fanboys are racist pricks, this is what Dave considers the worst thing that could possibly happen to him, and therefore we get to laugh at Dave. That’s a kinder interpretation; it only suggests that Millar is asking his audience to hold themselves in contempt.

http://techland.com/2010/02/19/emanata-hi-kids-do-you-like-violence/

“You do Coach bags, I do kush bags, you a douchebag, I’m the truth fag/share greedy, ya’ll niggas get scared easy, queer like multiple pairs of Air Yeezys” - Sean Price

  

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Yeah, i don't see it
Feb 21st 2010
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Feb 21st 2010
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gaaaaaaahhd yall will try to find racism in everything.
Feb 21st 2010
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RE: gaaaaaaahhd yall will try to find racism in everything.
Feb 21st 2010
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Yeah it's pretty annoying.
Feb 21st 2010
5
I don't know about y'all....
Feb 21st 2010
6
So basically this writer is getting his Scorsesse on. Got it.
Mar 30th 2010
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more tarantino imo.
Mar 30th 2010
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i said that same shit when i read the comic.
Mar 30th 2010
9
Millar's kinda a hack, guys
Mar 30th 2010
10
I agreee.
Mar 31st 2010
11
Millar's is a habitual line stepper
Mar 31st 2010
12
GOOD LORD.
Mar 31st 2010
13

IceburgSmurf
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1. "Yeah, i don't see it"
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But im notoriously bad at reading subtle racism so maybe its just me but both situations just seem like black actors getting work

  

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2. "uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
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BrooklynWHAT
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3. "gaaaaaaahhd yall will try to find racism in everything."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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Vaiops2wega
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4. "RE: gaaaaaaahhd yall will try to find racism in everything."
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You act like this shit never happens. The biggest movie of last year was the most racist shit I've ever seen

“You do Coach bags, I do kush bags, you a douchebag, I’m the truth fag/share greedy, ya’ll niggas get scared easy, queer like multiple pairs of Air Yeezys” - Sean Price

  

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BennyTenStack
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5. "Yeah it's pretty annoying."
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I'm sure the author of that article would think this post is racist because the black text in this message box is overwhelmed by all the blank white space.


I know there is a lot of racism still existing in Hollywood, but to just go looking for it with a huge chip on your shoulder is just stupid to me.

  

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6. "I don't know about y'all...."
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...but if I walked in on my pops fuckin some broad - black, white, Puerto Rican, or purple -I'd be pretty mortified too. 'Cism ain't got shit to do w/ it.

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cheap skeiht killa
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7. "So basically this writer is getting his Scorsesse on. Got it."
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8. "more tarantino imo."
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Bruce Belafonte
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9. "i said that same shit when i read the comic."
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http://youtu.be/5o37GORoKUQ

#htpw

  

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kevlar skully
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10. "Millar's kinda a hack, guys"
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imo of course


Kick-ass seems like something he wrote in a week and got JRJR to draw in a month. I didn't pay too much attention to it when it was first announced but it seems like a book he made with the intent of it being made into a movie for some quick cash


His shit is stale

  

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He's not that good of a writer and all of his material is over-rated.
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Brother_Afron
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12. "Millar's is a habitual line stepper"
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"The kind of characters he runs into is like Spider-Man's granddaughter, who is called Spider-Bitch and she is this black Spidey-Girl type of person that runs around in Utah."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=12380

Then there's the upcoming Ultimate Avengers which features the "African-American Hulk" who can be seen here http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/201006/130_ULTIMATE_COMICS_AVENGERS_2_4.jpg

  

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13. "GOOD LORD."
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>Then there's the upcoming Ultimate Avengers which features the
>"African-American Hulk" who can be seen here
>http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/201006/130_ULTIMATE_COMICS_AVENGERS_2_4.jpg

Like, I get that "Blulk" should be a bit of a bad ass, but making him Marcellus Wallace meets Mr. T?

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