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"Nolan preppin' 3rd Batman and helpin' on new Superman (link)"


  

          

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Talk about career misteps if this is true
Feb 09th 2010
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Right?
Feb 09th 2010
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Shia deserves his career
Feb 09th 2010
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wait, did they call the og Superman move "mediocre?"
Feb 09th 2010
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Go back and watch them
Feb 09th 2010
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^^crazy talk
Feb 09th 2010
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Grod was cool, but I didn't like them as much as I did when I was young
Feb 09th 2010
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part one was pretty damn good
Feb 09th 2010
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^^Sad but true, consider your childhoods ether'd
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Superman I was great until the last few minutes
Feb 09th 2010
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i watched them for the first time a few months ago
Feb 10th 2010
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did they update the article?
Feb 09th 2010
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      Nikki must have edited Mike's initial entry
Feb 09th 2010
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      well now they're double wrong because that was the best one
Feb 09th 2010
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      ha, there weren't even pictures when i clicked at first.
Feb 09th 2010
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I really wouldn't mind a Mxyplyx or darkseid focused Supes project.
Feb 09th 2010
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Seriously, please keep Darkseid out of the movies
Feb 09th 2010
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yeah, the film would turn into a bootleg Masters of the Universe
Feb 09th 2010
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It doesn't take a Brainiac to figure out who the villain should be
Feb 09th 2010
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      Another case where Johns has basically already written...
Feb 09th 2010
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           Take out John Peters's hard on for spiders, that was a hot script.
Feb 09th 2010
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                ^^ from the streets
Feb 09th 2010
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                     Dude could write Superman. Now Batman, on the other hand...
Feb 09th 2010
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Why can't they expand the idea of what the franchise can be?
Feb 09th 2010
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This also (partially) explains why Goyer left Flash Forward
Feb 09th 2010
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Ehhh, is it even possible to make a good Superman movie?
Feb 10th 2010
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no, it doesn't and it wont ever really work
Feb 10th 2010
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Have you ever read Last Days of Krypton?
Feb 10th 2010
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They'll have to kill him or come up with something
Feb 10th 2010
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Flashbacks are more than enough
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      no more Batman movies!!!!!!
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1. "Talk about career misteps if this is true"
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"Josh Hartnett turned down the 3-picture deal that could have brought him $100 million in salary"

  

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6. "Right?"
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WTF was he thinking?

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20. "Shia deserves his career"
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2. "wait, did they call the og Superman move "mediocre?""
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3. "Go back and watch them"
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They're not good.

Margo Kidder was bogus, having superman fly backwards around the planet to turn time back, dude those movies were not good.

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4. "^^crazy talk"
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..aside from flyin backwards and the fact he told Lois at sall in Supes 2, the first three were str8 to me...drunk supes fighting himself ALONE makes 3 great....

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8. "Grod was cool, but I didn't like them as much as I did when I was young"
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They don't hold the same appeal to me.

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9. "part one was pretty damn good"
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FOH

  

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14. "^^Sad but true, consider your childhoods ether'd"
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24. "Superman I was great until the last few minutes"
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The characterizations and situations are generally in line with how Duperman was presented in the comics in the 1960s and 1970s, save for the expected simplification of the mythos. I think it's universally agreed that the whole flying around the world backwards thing was bullshit.

Superman II as released in 1980 was a bit of a mess. OK, a lot of a mess. The Richard Donner re-edit is better, but the film as a whole is still not *that* good

Granted, I love both films, but I cn take a step back and see their flaws as well.

  

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30. "i watched them for the first time a few months ago"
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i SERIOUSLY didn't understand the hype. and it wasn't just the effects being outdated, i'm pretty lenient on that, but the acting was so wooden. the only thing redeeming was gene hackman was funny half the time, but then he was awful the other half.

  

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10. "did they update the article?"
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Now it only says Superman III was mediocre.

  

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12. "Nikki must have edited Mike's initial entry"
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13. "well now they're double wrong because that was the best one"
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19. "ha, there weren't even pictures when i clicked at first."
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they did all kinds of edits.

  

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5. "I really wouldn't mind a Mxyplyx or darkseid focused Supes project."
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7. "Seriously, please keep Darkseid out of the movies"
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Most comic book writers suck at using the character. In the hands of the average screen-writer and movie studio, it would be a disaster.

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11. "yeah, the film would turn into a bootleg Masters of the Universe"
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15. "It doesn't take a Brainiac to figure out who the villain should be"
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16. "Another case where Johns has basically already written..."
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...the script for them.

Take the Brainiac arc from a ywar ago or so, take out Supergirl, and you've got the perfect story.

Or you can just go the "Polar Bears and giant spiders" route and use Kevin Smith's script.

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21. "Dude could write Superman. Now Batman, on the other hand... "
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...not so much.

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22. "Why can't they expand the idea of what the franchise can be?"
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Why does a trilogy have to follow each other chronologically? Can't it just be three excellent movies about Superman that tie into each other?

I always felt that they could elevate Superman a la TDK just as long as they didn't take a myopic approach by trying to make Supes 'more edgy'. Superman doesn't need to be edgy. They can make a Superman movie that explores his alienation and savior-like status among other things as long as they do one thing: give Superman someone to fight other than Lex. People want to see him fight someone--physically.

EDIT: Another thing--it would be nice if someone slipped the execs and writers copies of Action Comics #775 as inspiration.

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23. "This also (partially) explains why Goyer left Flash Forward"
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I'd Audi 5 that bitch too if Warners wanted to pay me to keep Batman going AND restart Superman (despite what they're saying officially)

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25. "Ehhh, is it even possible to make a good Superman movie?"
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I don't know if I can watch two hours of a demi-god mope about how tough he is.

There are alot of great angles the comic uses that make some great superman stories (in particular, I love when Lex is smart+pro human).

But I don't think it would translate on screen.

  

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27. "no, it doesn't and it wont ever really work"
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What makes the ones that do work are character flaws in the hero and general depth in the "alter ego" lifestyles. When you get past the Lois Lane and "sent from a distant planet", what else is there to really explore about Superman? How Nolan will possibly make it interesting in live action form will be a challenge. Really, the most cinematically rewarding parts of this character have always been the youth portion. After that, it gets really bland quickly.

  

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29. "Have you ever read Last Days of Krypton?"
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>There are alot of great angles the comic uses that make some
>great superman stories (in particular, I love when Lex is
>smart+pro human).
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by Kevin J. Anderson? it's not a graphic novel but I thought it was a really good story. i'm not a huge superman fan at all but it was an interesting look at the back story of Krypton and the whole Superman mythos

  

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26. "They'll have to kill him or come up with something"
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off the damn wall. Just like the comics, his death or teaming him with Batman it was the only thing that brought attention back to Superman.

What I don't want to happen is a Twilight Saga'd out Superman, and you KNOW the studio wants that. Angsty Stupid Clark Kent... No. Please don't.

No more origin stories please, Superman has been around since 1938, we know who is he and where he's from but do we care? Batman is more interesting because he's resourceful, smart and he's human. We know why he's doing what he's doing. Superman is just an alien refugee who is the SOURCE of ALL his problems. Superman is an god-like idiot boy scout fool who I thought was cool as a child, but as an adult he's not that interesting. My SO's into Smallville and i watch it for a bit and doze off...he's boring and stupid.

Focus on Green Lantern, please.

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28. "Flashbacks are more than enough"
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>No more origin stories please, Superman has been around since
>1938, we know who is he and where he's from

Have it all take place in the same universe as Nolan's Batman (a reference or quick shot of Batman is enough for the first flick) but just start with Clark coming to Metropolis. I can't sit through another 30-45 minutes of Ma & Pa Kent.


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31. "no more Batman movies!!!!!!"
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please, its stupid to try for another round. It can only go downhill after Dark Knight, part three of any trilogy is never to best addition. I think they should focus on other DC heroes like Green Arrow and Black Lightning.

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