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"Nine (Marshall, 2009)"
Mon Dec-07-09 02:21 AM by ZooTown74

  

          

in which some of our favorite and not-so-favorite actors and singers get together to... act and sing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJpwwdOomtY

You know what? This movie was quite entertaining, if ultimately shallow and quite inconsequential...

The story is this: Rome, 1965, Cinecutta Studio... famous director Guido Contini (Daniel Day-Lewis) is about to begin production on his magnum opus, Italia, starring his longtime muse Claudia Jenson (Nicole Kidman)... problem is, he doesn't have a script so he has no idea what the movie's about... meanwhile, he struggles to maintain his relations with a few women, most notably his mistress Carla (Penelope Cruz), a flirty journalist (Kate Hudson), and his lead costumer/good buddy (Judi Dench), while reminiscing about his moms (Sophia Loren), and a hooker by the sea that he met as a kid (Fergie -- yes, THAT Fergie)... and then his wife (Marion Cotillard) shows up... musical-romantic complications ensue...

So, yes, it's yet another "gay" Hollywood musical, except with a lot of ass and tittes for the straight dudez (no nudity, however)... and the songs are presented mostly as thoughts that each character has; in other words, there are no scenes of people talking then suddenly bursting into song... there would be a melodramatic scene then a number, then back to the melodrama, then a number, and so on...

The movie is certainly not as, uh, heavy as Rob's last musical, Chicago, nor is it dark as the film I immediately thought of once this started: Bob Fosse's All That Jazz; this movie is all fun and surface-level thrills, which is fine... the score was very cool, the picture looked great (shot by Dion Beebe), and the choreography was on-point... only problem for me was that it all didn't really add up to much... it's just the story of a stressed-out director (Daniel-Day brought the heat as usual even though he really didn't have to do much besides look worried; there's no Fosse-esque health dangers to be found here) trying to juggle various women and thoughts of various women while suffering from writer's block... there's no sense of stakes, or anything that would make the audience want to see Guido start his movie... the problem isn't with the character, btw, he's actually a very cool customer, it's just that there's no story meat here for us to ultimately give a shit... but I still liked the movie anyway for the serious "Let's Put on a Show!" vibe it gave off, which means it was highly entertaining as a whole...

Singing-wise, there were some hits and misses. The actors didn't have much vocal range, of course; Daniel-Day has a very good singing voice and was fine here, as was Marion Cotillard, and Judi Dench... I had a harder time fooling with Kate Hudson's and Nic Kidman's singing, though... Penelope was okay with the singing, but then again I wasn't really listening her words -- and once you see her VERY sexy number, you'll see why... and of course, as the only "professional" singer, I gotta give credit to Fergie for bringing the heat, so OKP should prepare to hate on her once again... each actor got a number to sing, save Daniel-Day and Marion who (if I remember correctly) each got two...

It's a very tight and briskly-paced film, even at 2 hours; I think Daniel-Day, Marion, Judi, Penelope, and the movie itself will get Oscar nominations... I liked it, but didn't love it, or at least love it as much as Chicago...

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I'm seeing this on Tues!!!
Dec 06th 2009
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can someone who's seen 8 1/2 comment on this?
Dec 07th 2009
2
Nine's a nearly 30-year-old Tony Award winning musical.
Dec 07th 2009
3
      Minghella came in for a rewrite after Michael Tolkin finished his draft
Dec 07th 2009
4
      I was using the Minghella reference more to show
Dec 07th 2009
5
           lol, right on...
Dec 07th 2009
7
      it's one of the greatest films ever made
Dec 07th 2009
6
           It stands on its own quite well on the stage.
Dec 07th 2009
8
How are the performances?
Dec 29th 2009
9
Well, to be honest
Dec 29th 2009
10
      Thanks. Sounds like it's worth it for DDL, Cotillard, and Cruz n/m
Dec 29th 2009
11
Seeing this now... even though the Weinsteins are starting to pull it.
Dec 31st 2009
12
Overall, quite good. Gorgeous visuals. Cruz= insanely hot.
Dec 31st 2009
13
overcasting 101
Jan 02nd 2010
14
I liked Marion Cotillard's songs, and...
Jan 03rd 2010
15
Cotillard was excellent
Jan 03rd 2010
16
I would change a lot about this picture.
Jan 05th 2010
17
it was entertaining
Jan 10th 2010
18

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1. "I'm seeing this on Tues!!!"
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Can't wait.
DDL is my favorite actor, I liked Chicago and am a HUGE fan of Dion Beebe's cinematography.

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2. "can someone who's seen 8 1/2 comment on this?"
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Because right now this feels about as necessary as that Bollywood version of The Godfather.

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Frank Longo
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3. "Nine's a nearly 30-year-old Tony Award winning musical."
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It doesn't have much to do with "right now." If I recall correctly, Anthony Minghella wrote the script adaptation, so this has been in development for a while.

And I think the musical stands well on its own. It's more of a loving homage to 8 1/2 than any sort of remake. But I haven't seen the film, so I can only comment on the theater side.

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4. "Minghella came in for a rewrite after Michael Tolkin finished his draft"
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Mon Dec-07-09 06:14 AM by ZooTown74

  

          

Tolkin said the producers interviewed 14 writers before they got to him; he's a big fan of both Fellini and the stage show, so he relished working on this. He also said that if you read the shooting script, it's basically 8 1/2 with musical numbers... he also said that he was able to use this work to touch on Fellini's life, particularly his marriage to Giuletta Messina...

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5. "I was using the Minghella reference more to show"
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how long this production has been in the pipes. I should've acknowledged Tolkin as well.

I'm glad to hear it was fun. One of my favorite songs was cut... and I didn't hear great advance buzz about Nicole Kidman, who I already don't really care for (even though she's not a huge role).

I have a bet with a musical theatre nerd friend, who thinks this movie is going to suck. I mean, easy bet for me with the advance buzz, really, LOL.

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7. "lol, right on..."
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6. "it's one of the greatest films ever made"
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I can't imagine a musical adaptation being justified.

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8. "It stands on its own quite well on the stage."
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It's really not a strict adaptation. It takes the story of the film, tells it with a different style, has some terrific songs/dances, and serves more as an homage than a spin-off.

I reserve the right to take it back once I see the movie. There'll almost certainly be some more visual homages in the film, I'd imagine. But the show itself is fun.

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9. "How are the performances?"
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10. "Well, to be honest"
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It seemed all Daniel Day did was sit around with his head in his hands (which of course is the universally-known indicator of "creative frustration")

I also thought both Marion Cotillard and Penelope Cruz gave the best performances, and that's because they (imo) had the most dramatic material to work with... to be honest, Penelope Cruz, Kate Hudson, Fergie, and Nic Kidman were harder to grade for me, simply because they were walking symbols who weren't given much to work with besides the songs: the Needy Mistress, the Flirt, the Whore, the Star...


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11. "Thanks. Sounds like it's worth it for DDL, Cotillard, and Cruz n/m"
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12. "Seeing this now... even though the Weinsteins are starting to pull it."
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Major tank at the box office.

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13. "Overall, quite good. Gorgeous visuals. Cruz= insanely hot."
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Sometimes, I felt the transition of the number from stage to screen was a bit, well, stagey, but the film overall works.

Penelope Cruz gets the Hottest Scene of the Year award. That phone sex number... yowza.

Judi Dench is always great, Daniel Day-Lewis is always great, and Marion Cotillard has not missed in a single performance of hers I've seen.

Kate Hudson was surprisingly good in a small role. Fergie, also surprisingly, had the best singing and the best dance routine.

Nicole Kidman didn't work for me. Like, at all.

Overall, definitely worth seeing... though musical haters won't be converted. See it for Cruz's sexy number though... yeesh, I was sweating.

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14. "overcasting 101"
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too many stars for my liking. every time a new one shows up-- which is about every ten minutes-- you get pulled out of the movie. it was like watching an episode of TMZ. fergie and kidman were especially unnecessary. like dude above said, the story was inconsequential. it was a thin string to tie all the various musical numbers together. i thought kate hudson had the best musical number, but her acting is meh. the music got better towards the end, and marion cotilard is great. overall, it didn't work for me. wifey loved it though.

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15. "I liked Marion Cotillard's songs, and..."
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Daniel Day-Lewis' last song.

I'm not a fan of PenÚlope Cruz or Nicole Kidman.

There were things I liked.

And things I didn't like.

Overall, it was a cool movie.

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16. "Cotillard was excellent"
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Wish she had more screen time. So, I wouldn't recommend seeing the film just for her.

  

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17. "I would change a lot about this picture."
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I will probably store those ideas for an eventual article.

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18. "it was entertaining"
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having seen 8 1/2 in the past, i had to force it out my head and take the movie for what it was.

It just started off flat in my opinion. I was bored the first 30 minutes but as it went on the story became more interesting to me.

Hudson and Kidman's characters were useless and served as flimsy road blocks for guido.

Dench, Day-Lewis and Cotillard were the only characters that keep me attentive throughout since they were given more thorough roles to play, even though Guido seemed like even more of an enigma and introvert than in 8 1/2. 8 1/2 ws almost three hours so having all those characters worked but in a 90 mintute movie it felt rushed throwing all these people in.Oh, and Sophia Loren as the mother sorta worked for me.

overall, this felt like a cliff-noted version of 8 1/2 with no real connections to the characters . the only songs that stood out were "Be Italian", which seemed to have had more time and effort placed into than any other number and Hudson's only because its was so upbeat and catchy. the whole movie felt superficial throughout.

i'd say wait for dvd with this one.

  

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