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Binlahab
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"eastwood: greatest living american filmmaker"


  

          

after watching letters from iwo jima...in addition to flags of our fathers a while back

has this guy made a movie that WASNT great?

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He makes a very, very strong case.
Dec 31st 2006
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Since you asked.
Dec 31st 2006
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i will never stop liking ur avy.
Dec 31st 2006
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I just wish it was a little slower. To capture his full creepiness.
Dec 31st 2006
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Heartbreak Ridge >>>>> Million Dollar Baby
Jan 01st 2007
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Yeah, let's pare this list down.
Jan 01st 2007
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Bronco Billy? Great?
Jan 01st 2007
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      grumblegrumblegrumbleargueargueargue
Jan 02nd 2007
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           You should've said Firefox. That would have been a better fight.
Jan 02nd 2007
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                We are 10 and 2 with Rex Grossman as our quarterback.*
Jan 02nd 2007
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Pale Rider is a pretty damn good movie
Jan 02nd 2007
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      RE: I won't say it's great, but I wouldn't dismiss it as wack.
Jan 02nd 2007
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           It was an interesting little "Shane" remake
Jan 02nd 2007
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im lookin forward to seeing letters from iwo jima
Dec 31st 2006
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Sure. Million Dollar Baby was some horseshit.
Jan 01st 2007
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I HATE all of this talk. It makes me want to not like Clint Eastwood.
Jan 01st 2007
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Here's his entire body of work:
Jan 01st 2007
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Compare that with this body of work:
Jan 01st 2007
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Or this one:
Jan 01st 2007
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      Or I'd dare say even this one:
Jan 01st 2007
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           or
Jan 01st 2007
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                Yeah, I coulda gone on.
Jan 02nd 2007
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                ain't hard.
Jan 02nd 2007
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                At this point, I'll put Eastwood over DePalma
Jan 02nd 2007
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                     Femme Fatale was fantastic
Jan 02nd 2007
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                          RE: Femme Fatale was fantastic
Jan 02nd 2007
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                          I'll admit, I completely forgot about "Femme Fatale"
Jan 02nd 2007
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                               he still beats Eastwood
Jan 02nd 2007
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You're type silly if you don't believe he's made some damn good films
Jan 02nd 2007
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      RE: Miami Vice? Really?
Jan 02nd 2007
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           Really.
Jan 02nd 2007
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i've never ever cried on any movie
Jan 02nd 2007
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um... yea.
Jan 02nd 2007
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scorsese died?
Jan 02nd 2007
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ZooTown74
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1. "He makes a very, very strong case."
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PTP hates him, but he makes damn good movies... always has...

Oh, and PTP might want to prepare to get mad again, as Letters is getting serious Best Picture Oscar talk... it's a pretty damn effective movie, the kind of joint the Academy tends to dig...
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2. "Since you asked."
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>has this guy made a movie that WASNT great?

# Blood Work (2002)
# Space Cowboys (2000)
# True Crime (1999)
# Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil (1997)
# Heartbreak Ridge (1986)
# Pale Rider (1985)
# Sudden Impact (1983)
# Honkytonk Man (1982)
# Firefox (1982)
# Bronco Billy (1980)

  

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3. "i will never stop liking ur avy."
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5. "I just wish it was a little slower. To capture his full creepiness."
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7. "Heartbreak Ridge >>>>> Million Dollar Baby"
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Gunny Highway bitches

  

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8. "Yeah, let's pare this list down."
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>>has this guy made a movie that WASNT great?
>
># Blood Work (2002)

># True Crime (1999)
># Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil (1997)


># Sudden Impact (1983)

># Firefox (1982)
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6. Miami Vice 7. Marie Antoinette 8. Inside Man 9. Brick 10. Tristram Shandy

  

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10. "Bronco Billy? Great?"
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18. "grumblegrumblegrumbleargueargueargue"
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1. When the Levees Broke 2. The Departed 3. Dreamgirls 4. Little Miss Sunshine 5. The Prestige
6. Miami Vice 7. Marie Antoinette 8. Inside Man 9. Brick 10. Tristram Shandy

  

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22. "You should've said Firefox. That would have been a better fight."
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30. "We are 10 and 2 with Rex Grossman as our quarterback.*"
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*The new "Both teams played hard, my man."
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20. "Pale Rider is a pretty damn good movie"
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I won't say it's great, but I wouldn't dismiss it as wack.

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23. "RE: I won't say it's great, but I wouldn't dismiss it as wack."
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I'll say that it's great.

  

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24. "It was an interesting little "Shane" remake"
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As usual, Clint was gully as fuck.

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4. "im lookin forward to seeing letters from iwo jima"
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flags of our fathers was good... woulda been great if didnt start to fall off towards the end of the film. but i hear Letters is the much better of the two so i have high hopes.

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6. "Sure. Million Dollar Baby was some horseshit."
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Plus bignick posted the rest of his shitty movies.

THAT being said, I think he's certainly a great director (Mystic River and Unforgiven...plus the performances in M$B are undeniably great - except of course his own), but he's definitely not the greatest living one. No sir.

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9. "I HATE all of this talk. It makes me want to not like Clint Eastwood."
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Because while he is very good, he is not even close to the best living American filmmaker. The only title he has earned is "most praised living American filmmaker."

M$B was alright. Mystic River was alright. I mean, the man is good at placing shadows in every frame of the movie. But are they REALLY that good?

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11. "Here's his entire body of work:"
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1. Letters from Iwo Jima (2006)
2. Flags of Our Fathers (2006)
3. Million Dollar Baby (2004)
4. "The Blues" (2003) (mini) TV Series (episode "Piano Blues")
5. Mystic River (2003)
6. Blood Work (2002)
7. Space Cowboys (2000)
8. True Crime (1999)
9. Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil (1997)
10. Absolute Power (1997)
11. The Bridges of Madison County (1995)
12. A Perfect World (1993)
13. Unforgiven (1992)
14. The Rookie (1990)
15. White Hunter Black Heart (1990)
16. Bird (1988)
17. Heartbreak Ridge (1986)
18. "Amazing Stories" (1 episode, 1985)
... aka Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories (USA: complete title)
- Vanessa in the Garden (1985) TV Episode
19. Pale Rider (1985)
20. Sudden Impact (1983)
21. Honkytonk Man (1982)
22. Firefox (1982)
23. Bronco Billy (1980)
24. The Gauntlet (1977)
25. The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)
26. The Eiger Sanction (1975)
27. Breezy (1973)
28. High Plains Drifter (1973)
29. Play Misty for Me (1971)
30. The Beguiled: The Storyteller (1971)

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12. "Compare that with this body of work:"
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# Munich (2005)
# War of the Worlds (2005)
# The Terminal (2004)
# Catch Me If You Can (2002)
# Minority Report (2002)
# Artificial Intelligence: AI (2001)
# The Unfinished Journey (1999)
# Saving Private Ryan (1998)
# Amistad (1997)
# The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997)
# Steven Spielberg's Director's Chair (1996) (VG)
# Schindler's List (1993)
# Jurassic Park (1993)
# Amazing Stories: Book One (1992) (V) (segment "The Mission")
# Hook (1991)
# The Visionary (1990) (V) (segment "Par for the Course")
# Always (1989)
# Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
# Empire of the Sun (1987)
# The Color Purple (1985)
# "Amazing Stories" (2 episodes, 1985)
... aka Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories (USA: complete title)
- The Mission (1985) TV Episode
- Ghost Train (1985) TV Episode
# "Strokes of Genius" (1984) (mini) TV Series (introductory segments) (uncredited)
# Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984)
# Twilight Zone: The Movie (1983) (segment 2)
# E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
# Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
# 1941 (1979)
# Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
# Jaws (1975)
# The Sugarland Express (1974)
# Savage (1973) (TV)
# Something Evil (1972) (TV)
# Duel (1971) (TV)

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13. "Or this one:"
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# The Departed (2006)
# No Direction Home: Bob Dylan (2005)
# The Aviator (2004)
# Lady by the Sea: The Statue of Liberty (2004) (TV)
# Michael Jackson: Number Ones (2003) (V) (video "Bad")
# "The Blues" (2003) (mini) TV Series (episode "Feel Like Going Home")
# Gangs of New York (2002)
# The Concert for New York City (2001) (TV) (segment "The Neighborhood")
# Bringing Out the Dead (1999)
# Mio viaggio in Italia, Il (1999)
... aka My Voyage to Italy (USA)
# Kundun (1997)
# A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese Through American Movies (1995) (TV)
# Casino (1995)
# The Age of Innocence (1993)
# Amazing Stories: Book Four (1992) (V) (segment "Mirror, Mirror")
# Cape Fear (1991)
# Goodfellas (1990)
# Made in Milan (1990)
# New York Stories (1989) (segment "Life Lessons")
# The Last Temptation of Christ (1988)
# Bad (1987) (V)
# The Color of Money (1986)
# "Amazing Stories" (1 episode, 1986)
... aka Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories (USA: complete title)
- Mirror, Mirror... (1986) TV Episode
# After Hours (1985)
# The King of Comedy (1983)
# Raging Bull (1980)
# The Last Waltz (1978)
# American Boy: A Profile of: Steven Prince (1978)
# New York, New York (1977)
# Taxi Driver (1976)
# Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (1974)
# Italianamerican (1974)
# Mean Streets (1973)
# Boxcar Bertha (1972)
# Street Scenes (1970)
# I Call First (1967)
# The Big Shave (1967)
# It's Not Just You, Murray! (1964)
# What's a Nice Girl Like You Doing in a Place Like This? (1963)
# Vesuvius VI (1959)

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14. "Or I'd dare say even this one:"
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# The Ladykillers (2004)
# Intolerable Cruelty (2003)
# The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
# O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
# The Big Lebowski (1998)
# Fargo (1996)
# The Hudsucker Proxy (1994)
# Barton Fink (1991)
# Miller's Crossing (1990)
# Raising Arizona (1987)
# Blood Simple. (1984)

There are more movies I'd call GREAT in this list than in Clint's.

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15. "or"
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Brian DePalma, or Michael Mann, or Woody Allen.

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16. "Yeah, I coulda gone on."
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17. "ain't hard."
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21. "At this point, I'll put Eastwood over DePalma"
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He hasn't made a movie I'd even describe as "good" in 10 years. And his last close to great one was in 1993. And he had his share of stinkers before then.

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27. "Femme Fatale was fantastic"
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Mission Impossible was great. Mission to Mars has passionate defenders, as does Black Dahlia.

Check out the synopsis of his next movie:
Toyer is a madman, highly intelligent and masterfully manipulative, he charms his way into the homes of his victims, all beautiful young women and skillfully labotomizes them. With no trace of forced entry at the crime scenes, the police are baffled, and as the number of victims increases, they show no sign of solving the case. Enter Dr. Maude Garance. As the neurologist who cares for Toyer's victims, Dr. Garance is living daily with the horror that Toyer's savagery yields. She must stop him at any cost. As she builds a detailed psychological picture of the culprit she quickly realizes it will take every ounce of strength to expose him. However she may come face to face with him sooner than she thinks...

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29. "RE: Femme Fatale was fantastic"
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i'm glad i'm not the only one who thought so.

"casualties of war" was a great movie as well. (though that was 20 years ago.)

  

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31. "I'll admit, I completely forgot about "Femme Fatale""
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However, "Snakes Eyes" was ass-crack, "Mission 2 Mars" was boring, and he never should have bothered with "Black Dahlia." Shit was completely unadaptable. I will say I enjoyed "Mission Impossible," but to call it fantastic is a stretch. And between "Carlito's Way" and "Casualties of War," he made two supreme stinkers.

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33. "he still beats Eastwood"
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and even his worst films are infinitely more interesting than Eastwood's best.

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19. "You're type silly if you don't believe he's made some damn good films"
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And yeah (bignick), we can quibble over bin's use of the word "great," but let's stop acting like Clint Eastwood is Zalman King with a squint and a sneer. Jesus.
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25. "RE: Miami Vice? Really?"
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In your top ten?

  

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26. "Really."
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Though I suppose I'll "backpedal" a little and say that this list is always in flux and subject to change...
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28. "i've never ever cried on any movie"
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but the closest i've ever been to was during 'bridges of madison county'. that's some powerful shit right there.

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32. "um... yea."
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34. "scorsese died?"
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