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Adwhizz
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"Verses/lines that COMPLETELY derail the vibe of the rest of the song"


  

          

https://youtu.be/u_C4onVrr8U

WTF was with Cole on the last verse of this song?!

The instrumental is a sexy, laid back guitar beat.

Cole's first verse is about trying to get with a chick he had a previous rendezvous with

You got R&B singer Miguel crooning explicitly about wanting to fuck and then in the last verse Cole comes in talking about Kapernick, Police Brutality and President Trump

Way to fuck up the entire mood Cole!

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Eric Sermon on You Do, I Do (Def Sqaud)
Jun 06th 2019
1
Aka “the father stretch my hands” post...
Jun 06th 2019
2
DUDE
Jun 08th 2019
15
Yeah. Plus I could've done without his Wolves verse
Jun 08th 2019
20
RE: Aka “the father stretch my hands” post...
Jun 10th 2019
33
^
Jun 11th 2019
41
T.I. Live your Life
Jun 06th 2019
3
Ah, the time-honored “Drink Away the Pain” post
Jun 06th 2019
4
lol, first thing that came to mind.
Jun 06th 2019
9
RE: Ah, the time-honored “Drink Away the Pain” post
Jun 06th 2019
11
First Thing I Thought About But It's Still A Dope Verse...
Jun 08th 2019
18
"I'm a Israelite, don't call me black no mo"
Jun 06th 2019
5
No matter what the song is about, Jay Z is gonna talk about himself
Jun 06th 2019
6
when Fatlip starts his 3rd verse on "4 Better or 4 Worse" .....
Jun 06th 2019
7
bizarre
Jun 06th 2019
8
hmmmmmm
Jun 08th 2019
16
      its a memorable verse
Jun 10th 2019
29
      always felt it was unfortunate considering the beat is amazing...
Jun 10th 2019
30
Okay, I think we've gone a little bit overboard..
Jun 08th 2019
24
That was such a great verse.
Jun 10th 2019
35
Big Boi's verse on "Dirty South" always sticks out like a sore thumb
Jun 06th 2019
10
Art of Storytellin
Jun 06th 2019
12
I can’t believe they even stayed a group as long as they did
Jun 10th 2019
36
      Ms Jackson is pretty bad too
Jun 10th 2019
37
Both of the examples above are exactly what you’d hear at Stank.
Jun 06th 2019
13
Tim Doggg's 2nd verse on 'Get Wrecked'
Jun 07th 2019
14
Tim Dog had a verse?
Jun 08th 2019
17
Tragedy details the entire War Report
Jun 08th 2019
19
It might just be me, but Cam's verse on Gone always gets skipped
Jun 08th 2019
21
Devins verse on Scarface Fuck faces
Jun 08th 2019
22
RE: Devins verse on Scarface Fuck faces
Jun 10th 2019
32
Kanye on Common's "Southside"
Jun 08th 2019
23
Add They Say
Jun 08th 2019
25
      WhEEEELs....stEEEEEEL
Jun 08th 2019
26
Red & Meth on "Left & Right"; Rick Ross on "Devil in a New Dress"
Jun 09th 2019
27
Left & Right should’ve featured OutKast
Jun 09th 2019
28
I wake up every morning holding my dick....
Jun 10th 2019
31
RE: Verses/lines that COMPLETELY derail the vibe of the rest of the song
Jun 10th 2019
34
RE: Verses/lines that COMPLETELY derail the vibe of the rest of the song
Jun 11th 2019
38
"Nina Simone, Defecating on the Microphone"
Jun 11th 2019
39
Kanye West Father Stretch My Hands "bleach verse"
Jun 11th 2019
40
Nas ruining I Gave You Power
Jun 14th 2019
42
that song could use a primo scratch section as well...
Jun 14th 2019
43

Adwhizz
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1. "Eric Sermon on You Do, I Do (Def Sqaud)"
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So the chorus of this song goes:

You drinkin', I'm drinkin'
You smokin', I'm smokin'
You freakin', I'm freakin'
You fuckin', we fuckin'
You fucked up, we fucked up
We make it, we take it
You hate me, I hate you
You talk shit, I talk shit

Red and Keith Murray's verses are standard party rap fare about getting girls and shit

So it's incredibly odd Sermon spends the last half of his best talking about being a responsible father to his kids

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2. "Aka “the father stretch my hands” post..."
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... always angry he talked about “bleached assholes” in that song

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15. "DUDE"
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right after the chorus?

I put the next record on.

also same w Roses. that "auntie team" line irks the shit out of me too

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20. "Yeah. Plus I could've done without his Wolves verse"
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33. "RE: Aka “the father stretch my hands” post..."
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>... always angry he talked about “bleached assholes” in
>that song

It sucks cuz it’s basically the best beat on the album and he completely squandered it. Completely.

  

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41. "^"
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3. "T.I. Live your Life"
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got love for the game
But ay I'm not in love with all of it
Could do without the fame
And rappers nowadays are comedy
The hootin' and the hollerin'
Back and forth with the arguin'
Where you from, who you know
What you make and what kind of car you in
Seems as though you lost sight
Of what's important when depositin'
Them checks into your bank account
And you up out of poverty
Your values is a disarray, prioritizin' horribly
Unhappy with the riches
'Cause you're piss poor morally
Ignorin' all prior advice and forewarnin'
And we mighty full of ourselves all of a sudden, aren't we?


Then Rihanna Comes in and says


You're gonna be, a shinin' star
In fancy clothes, and fancy cars
And then you'll see, you're gonna go far
'Cause everyone knows, just who ya are
So live your life (Hey! Ay ay ay)
You steady chasin' that paper, just live your life
(Oh! Ay ay ay)
Ain't got no time for no haters, just live your life


Its like they on completely different songs.


You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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4. "Ah, the time-honored “Drink Away the Pain” post "
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Flanked of course by the standard “but Q-Tip’s verse was still dope, just off-topic” comment.

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9. "lol, first thing that came to mind. "
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

  

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11. "RE: Ah, the time-honored “Drink Away the Pain” post "
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^^^

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18. "First Thing I Thought About But It's Still A Dope Verse..."
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...so I always kind of shrug it off as, if it's dope, who cares if it doesn't go along with the theme of the song.


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5. ""I'm a Israelite, don't call me black no mo""
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--
"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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6. "No matter what the song is about, Jay Z is gonna talk about himself"
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7. "when Fatlip starts his 3rd verse on "4 Better or 4 Worse" ....."
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8. "bizarre"
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16. "hmmmmmm"
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truuuue.

BUT.


that shit not only made the verse.....but made The Pharcyde.

as a real time listen to that album. we were fucking JAW dropped.

its almost like that verse made this opposite premise of this post true:

they shoulda rose to his level.

but then again the shock of that verse is what makes THEM them

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South Park TV Songs
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"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
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"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

  

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29. "its a memorable verse"
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but soooo different than the other two. i know the first few times i listened to it i would just rock with it but at some point i was like wait......when did the song turn to this?????

gotta love fatlip lol

  

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30. "always felt it was unfortunate considering the beat is amazing..."
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...when that that beat changed and that first verse drops and the fender rhodes sample comes in (i think its a sample) .. amazing moment right there!!!

This song is well on its way to becoming one of the great "love letter" songs in hip hop.. but then the dream dissolves into a nightmare lol (don't stop it yet!)

Wanted the instrumental for so long to this shit.. finally found it on napster one day and it was worth the wait.


  

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24. "Okay, I think we've gone a little bit overboard.."
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...FUCK YOU DON'T CALL MY HOUSE!

Yo, I love that. Ha ha.

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35. "That was such a great verse."
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One of my favorite moments from that album. Fatlip's helter skelter flow on that song reminds me a lot of OBD.

But to get back to your point of Fatlip derailing the song, doesn't the first verse start out on an upbeat note, then moves onto the second verse which hints at a bit of disillusionment, and then progresses to the third verse where the 'relationship' is totally dissolved?

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10. "Big Boi's verse on "Dirty South" always sticks out like a sore thumb"
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It's still one of my favorite songs ever, but Big Boi talking his player shit in the midst of all the serious subject matter always throws me off.

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12. "Art of Storytellin"
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Dre's verse is sad and philosophical about a girl who experiences tragedy

Big Boi's verse is about getting some head in the parking lot in exchange for a free poster

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36. "I can’t believe they even stayed a group as long as they did"
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Even as early as the second album, they were on different planets LOL

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37. "Ms Jackson is pretty bad too"
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Dre is all apologetic and taking responsibility and Big Boi is telling his ex that her girl was sucking his dick and that she and her mama can get the hell out.

Lol

  

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13. "Both of the examples above are exactly what you’d hear at Stank."
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Or The Dungeon at the time. I’ve never been around multiple DF niggas that can hold the same convo with each other.

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14. "Tim Doggg's 2nd verse on 'Get Wrecked'"
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KRS just finished ripping the track a new one and topped it off with the little patois, and Tim comes in with 'Baby, Baby, ummm... maybe, mabe, ummm...'

I cut the song off after KRS finishes

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17. "Tim Dog had a verse?"
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NO! LIST
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M J
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Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
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19. "Tragedy details the entire War Report"
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21. "It might just be me, but Cam's verse on Gone always gets skipped"
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22. "Devins verse on Scarface Fuck faces"
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I mean it was on topic with the rest of the song but it was so dirty that the entire verse was cut out of the radio version.

  

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32. "RE: Devins verse on Scarface Fuck faces"
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>I mean it was on topic with the rest of the song but it was
>so dirty that the entire verse was cut out of the radio
>version.

It was so amazingly Houston tho so it’s perfect. Tela has to swing in on a rope for the video version. Good times overall. It’s high up on the list of ‘can’t play it around kids’ regardless.

  

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23. "Kanye on Common's "Southside""
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Such a great beat ruined by a horrible chorus.

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25. "Add They Say"
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26. "WhEEEELs....stEEEEEEL"
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Sweet taste of victory, go head breathe it in like antihistamine, I knew they saying Damn Ye you snapped on this beat, fuck you expect? I got a history


Lol. I was with it until the high pitched wheels/steel part.

  

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27. "Red & Meth on "Left & Right"; Rick Ross on "Devil in a New Dress""
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Red & Meth throw off the album experience way more than they throw off the song though...I recognize the L&R is supposed to be a gritty, nasty funk record...but it would have better served the project as a whole to be a bit more subtle.
Also, Ricky's verse on DiaND has its moments, but pretty often, as soon as I hear "Lookin' at my b*tch, I bet she give ya ass a bone", I just snap out of the state that song puts me in and fall back to earth. Not a huge Drake fan, but it shoulda been him on that feature...that topic woulda been his bread n butter.

  

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28. "Left & Right should’ve featured OutKast"
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31. "I wake up every morning holding my dick...."
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...everyday like I know I'm the shit and you ain't fucking with me.

Joe Scudda on Little Brother's "Lovin' It".

Phonte's verse is happy, the sample is happy and Joe instantly throws the song off. I don't really know why Joe was on LB's first single at all compared to everyone else in the Justice League at the time.

It's not that I dislike Scudda's work....but man he was a bad fit on that song IMO.

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34. "RE: Verses/lines that COMPLETELY derail the vibe of the rest of the song"
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Mine...Danny Brown ruins it imo, the slowed down tone of the beat kills the energy, and not really diggin Danny here...

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38. "RE: Verses/lines that COMPLETELY derail the vibe of the rest of the song"
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I've listened to this song probably 100 times in my life, and only heard the third verse like 5 times.

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39. ""Nina Simone, Defecating on the Microphone""
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Rhymes but the imagery of that always threw me off.


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40. "Kanye West Father Stretch My Hands "bleach verse""
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damn near ruins a near perfect song.


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42. "Nas ruining I Gave You Power"
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He's the undisputed GOAT
but "it's like, like...I'm a gun" completely kills the premise
in fact the whole monologue is ass

We didn't need to be told you were rhyming from the perspective of a firearm
smarten up, Nas

  

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43. "that song could use a primo scratch section as well..."
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