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Brew
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"De La Soul "Held Down" (f. Cee-Lo) Appreciation"


          

Listened to a lot of De La yesterday during a heavily-delayed flight back to Boston from Chicago. And damn, this song still goes like it's brand new. It's always been among my favorite tracks on AOI:MT (despite the glaring lack of Dave on the track) and has aged very well. That gospel breakdown at the end is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo damn good. Chill inducing shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ckWYPMqPc

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goat grown man rap
Apr 08th 2019
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Hell yea that line is great. BTW it's on Bionix, obviously. My bad.
Apr 08th 2019
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one of the all time great tracks.. from the greatest group...
Apr 09th 2019
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Hell yes.
Apr 09th 2019
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that sample too! like some country western/blues shit! Then the strings
Apr 09th 2019
4
I gotta dig up my CD copy to confirm but wiki says that Pos ...
Apr 09th 2019
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      if i recall correctly
Apr 09th 2019
12
      yeah, man...Pos got beats!
Apr 10th 2019
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any update on the steaming stuff?
Apr 09th 2019
5
Not that I've seen. Brutal stuff.
Apr 09th 2019
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Amen!
Apr 09th 2019
9
Hm word - I'll have to check that out.
Apr 09th 2019
10
Great song, from a mostly great album
Apr 09th 2019
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Yes I really love Bionix as well.
Apr 09th 2019
13
solid track -
Apr 10th 2019
14
always loved this track
Apr 11th 2019
16
speaking of De La Soul... i've been running to their Nike mixtape
Apr 11th 2019
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I gotta revisit this.
Apr 11th 2019
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what was the Mission TV thing?
Apr 12th 2019
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      called it a mixtape
Apr 15th 2019
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1. "goat grown man rap"
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yeah i wish dave was on it, too, but i guess it was pos's itzoweeze moment.
dave killed it on trying people, aka goat grown man rap pt.2.
that "they were looking for god but found religion instead" line by pos got quoted by me plenty of times.


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Brew
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2. "Hell yea that line is great. BTW it's on Bionix, obviously. My bad."
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>yeah i wish dave was on it, too, but i guess it was pos's
>itzoweeze moment.
>dave killed it on trying people, aka goat grown man rap pt.2.
>that "they were looking for god but found religion instead"
>line by pos got quoted by me plenty of times.

I tend to blend those 2 albums haha. Wish we got part 3.

Anyway yea you're right - Dave had his shine elsewhere and they've both had plenty of solo moments on their albums so it's not a *huge* deal. Just wish they both got to spit on what is one of my all time fav De La tracks.

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3. "one of the all time great tracks.. from the greatest group..."
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Brew
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6. "Hell yes."
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4. "that sample too! like some country western/blues shit! Then the strings"
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so dope how they meshed that all together.

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Brew
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7. "I gotta dig up my CD copy to confirm but wiki says that Pos ..."
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... produced this track himself. Which is wild.

But yea no matter who produced it, it's fucking fire.

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12. "if i recall correctly"
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they did that at willie mitchells place

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15. "yeah, man...Pos got beats! "
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5. "any update on the steaming stuff?"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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8. "Not that I've seen. Brutal stuff."
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That whole situation has made me so sad so many times. Totally fucked up that (a) so many young people have been deprived of easily accessing the discog of one of the most important hip-hop acts of the golden era, and (b) more importantly, DLS has been absolutely fucked out of well-deserved income streams due to greedy ass fucking white-helmed labels.

The world is shit sometimes.

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9. "Amen!"
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Love this song. It also makes me think of how much I love Cunninlynguists' Caved In with Cee -lo. Similar vibe to the two songs.

there comes a time in every mans life when he's gotta handle shit up on his own Can't depend on friends to help you in a squeeze, please they got problems of their own---slim kid3

  

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Brew
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10. "Hm word - I'll have to check that out."
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I got started on Cunninglinguists' discog years back and got about halfway through. Don't think I heard this one and if I did I don't remember it, so I'll have to go back.

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DJR
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11. "Great song, from a mostly great album"
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I probably hold that album in higher regard than a lot of people, but other than a couple skippers it’s great IMO.

Held Down was always my second favorite after Trying People.

Am I Worth You? was also another favorite, and What We Do For Love with Slick Rick. I thought Baby Phat was a good single too.

Might have to revisit that album!

  

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13. "Yes I really love Bionix as well."
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I never really understood the derision. It's definitely not their best but I don't think it's their worst either. In fact I don't really think they have a worst. Because all their albums are either absolutely fucking perfect, or at worst really really really good haha.

Funnily enough (I've talked about this on here before), for a long time I never understood the hype about "Trying People". I think I was initially tepid because I felt like they built it up too much throughout the album (all those post-song interludes or whatever) so when I finally heard it I was kind of inevitably let down by it. I loved the subject matter but was so mehhh about the production that I just never cared for it like everyone else seemed to.

But I eventually fell in love with it, obviously.

Baby Phat was a tremendous single , No doubt about that. They really nailed the first singles for both AOIs. Also agree that there are a couple clunkers but that overall Bionix is really great. I have a lot of nostalgia tied to it as well; it came out my senior year in high school so I have a lot of great memories of cruising around in my emerald green 1994 Camry with this album on repeat, smoking Ls with the crew as we all prepared to go our separate ways. What a great year that was.

*snaps out of daydream* haha anyway - re: AOI: Mosaic Thump & Bionix, I always considered MT a summer album, while Bionix was a winter album. Which is kinda dope cause every year I revisit each of them as the seasons change.


>I probably hold that album in higher regard than a lot of
>people, but other than a couple skippers it’s great IMO.
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>Held Down was always my second favorite after Trying People.
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>Am I Worth You? was also another favorite, and What We Do For
>Love with Slick Rick. I thought Baby Phat was a good single
>too.
>
>Might have to revisit that album!

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14. "solid track -"
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Though the churchy sound of Cee-Lo always had me put off a bit. Gotta say, the track holds up after all these years.


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16. "always loved this track"
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Pos flips a pretty unique rhyme scheme on it. the beat has that epic feel, plus I Think its a 6 bar pattern which is always a nice change of pace

  

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17. "speaking of De La Soul... i've been running to their Nike mixtape"
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Are You In... man i love this. not their best work but good running mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ7nZ-9UV8Y

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18. "I gotta revisit this."
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I didn't love it upon first listen and basically never went back. They deserve more respect than that from me haha.

I think that was compounded by my frustration that it wasn't a *proper* De La album ... so I was just like "eff this" and basically forgot about it.

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19. "what was the Mission TV thing?"
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I remember I used to bump this song.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3AlonQz21g

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20. "called it a mixtape"
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''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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