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spidey
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"TOTD..Kanye West..."


  

          

Two for one...Peace!

"Two Words" with Mos Def and Freeway...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkFOBx6j0l8

"Family Business"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwAjANmjajc

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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Almost like a different person made these.
Mar 28th 2019
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I'd prob put Family Business as my #1 Kanye track
Mar 28th 2019
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      RE: I'd prob put Family Business as my #1 Kanye track
Mar 28th 2019
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      RE: I'd prob put Family Business as my #1 Kanye track
Mar 28th 2019
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      Yea that seemed to be a major turning point.
Mar 29th 2019
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           People say that Kanye was always brash and arrogant
Mar 29th 2019
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      Yea it's top 5 for me easy. Probably top 3. I liked the original better ...
Mar 29th 2019
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I miss that guy
Mar 28th 2019
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I miss the old Kanye.....
Mar 28th 2019
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We Don't Care is probably my favorite Kanye song.
Mar 29th 2019
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i miss this mos def
Mar 29th 2019
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Mos' verse is UNREAL.
Mar 29th 2019
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Mos Def heeding the words
Mar 29th 2019
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RE: i miss this mos def
Mar 31st 2019
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      Damn.
Mar 31st 2019
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      common followed through with the kanye/dilla formula
Apr 04th 2019
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Brew
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Thu Mar-28-19 01:03 PM

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1. "Almost like a different person made these."
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Still two of his very best songs, and two of my favorites. They were my favorites back when they dropped and remain among my like top 10 favorites today.

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Oak27
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Thu Mar-28-19 01:29 PM

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2. "I'd prob put Family Business as my #1 Kanye track"
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And yeah, it's amazing listening to his first album and thinking about how far gone he is from where he started from.

  

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spidey
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4. "RE: I'd prob put Family Business as my #1 Kanye track"
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Sad indeed....

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jimaveli
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6. "RE: I'd prob put Family Business as my #1 Kanye track"
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>And yeah, it's amazing listening to his first album and
>thinking about how far gone he is from where he started from.

That dude is in there somewhere. That's how stuff like Sunday Service still happens.

But wow, what a difference. I still 'blame' the Taylor Swift thing more than folks seem to. I think that hit him in even a different place than his mom's death.

  

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Brew
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8. "Yea that seemed to be a major turning point."
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>But wow, what a difference. I still 'blame' the Taylor Swift
>thing more than folks seem to. I think that hit him in even a
>different place than his mom's death.

But I'd argue that his mom's death allowed for the Taylor Swift thing to happen. As brash as he was even prior to his mom dying, I don't think he'd have pulled that move if his mom was still alive, for some reason.

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obsidianchrysalis
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13. "People say that Kanye was always brash and arrogant"
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But before his mom's death, there seemed to be more humor behind his boasts. After Donda passed he became more defensive, to me at least.

Maybe he doesn't transform his career and his ambition isn't as strong with his mom here. But he'd probably be happier.

*gettingUpFromMyArmchair*

  

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Brew
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7. "Yea it's top 5 for me easy. Probably top 3. I liked the original better ..."
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I remember being disappointed when he enhanced the piano on the album version.

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Eric B Is Prez
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3. "I miss that guy"
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DJR
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5. "I miss the old Kanye....."
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Yeah, those two along with Spaceships and We Don’t Care....I still play those regularly.

And that’s still his best album to me.

  

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Brew
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9. "We Don't Care is probably my favorite Kanye song."
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Fri Mar-29-19 08:15 AM by Brew

          

That beat is beautiful. And whoever wrote the "dyslexic/12 Questions" line for him deserves a Nobel Prize.


>Yeah, those two along with Spaceships and We Don’t
>Care....I still play those regularly.
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>And that’s still his best album to me.

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naame
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10. "i miss this mos def"
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never really liked kanye on this song but freeway and mos def held it down

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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Brew
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11. "Mos' verse is UNREAL."
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Kanye nor Freeway followed the song title's damn instructions properly haha.

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12. "Mos Def heeding the words"
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from the Gza 'half short, and twice strong' to the fullest. Such a short verse and so potent as well. It's a crying shame it's on a Kanye song.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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jimaveli
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14. "RE: i miss this mos def"
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Sun Mar-31-19 08:46 AM by jimaveli

  

          

>never really liked kanye on this song but freeway and mos def
>held it down
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>America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan
>than it has exported democracy.

That was during the time that I was confident Mos Def and Common were gonna conquer the rap earth with half albums of Kanye beats and the other half of whatever goodness they'd get from Hi-Tek, Dilla, and others. I was wrong of course, but oh well.

This reminds me: I'm still slightly mad at Common for moonwalking out of Electric Circus when the initial reaction wasn't good. I still need an explanation of how D'Angelo ended up not on the single version of Ghetto Heaven from LWFC. It betrayed the lineage between LWFC and Voodoo.

I'm NOT as mad at him as I was for Maxwell seemingly losing his aura over Embrya's reception. I thought it was the jam. It was 'slower' but Matrimony is easily one of his best songs ever.

  

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Brew
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15. "Damn."
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>That was during the time that I was confident Mos Def and
>Common were gonna conquer the rap earth with half albums of
>Kanye beats and the other half of whatever goodness they'd get
>from Hi-Tek, Dilla, and others. I was wrong of course, but oh
>well.

That would've been the best for everyone. Hah.


>This reminds me: I'm still slightly mad at Common for
>moonwalking out of Electric Circus when the initial reaction
>wasn't good.

He's since come back around, thankfully. Listen to his appearance on ?uestlove Supreme, they talk about it at length and how it was ahead of its time.


>I still need an explanation of how D'Angelo ended
>up not on the single version of Ghetto Heaven from LWFC. It
>betrayed the lineage between LWFC and Voodoo.

I mean, gotta think D' was to blame, not Comm right ? Just based on historical precedent and all that haha.


>I'm NOT as mad at him as I was for Maxwell seemingly losing
>his aura over Embrya's reception. I thought it was the jam. It
>was 'slower' but Matrimony is easily one of his best songs
>ever.

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naame
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16. "common followed through with the kanye/dilla formula"
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and Be was an amazing album. But Mos's downfall was really he got lazy with the lyrics and he should have kept up with Talib and continued to make Blackstar albums. He got to a point where he couldn't carry a full song, while Talib couldn't carry a full album. They needed each other.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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