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obsidianchrysalis
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"Examples of any non-lyricist turning into a lyricist?"
Mon Mar-18-19 12:29 AM by obsidianchrysalis

  

          

Like we've seen artists like Jay Z and Ice Cube among others go from being lyrical beasts into something less so.

But can you think of a rapper who started out as average or maybe even conversational and turning into an artist known for their lyricism?

I can think of producer / rappers who turned into decent rappers over time. But my mind is blank when I try and remember a rapper who started out not interested in lyricism and turned that deficiency into a strength.

  

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Lil Wayne
Mar 18th 2019
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Does Ghostwriters Count?
Mar 18th 2019
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Rick Ross
Mar 18th 2019
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he dumbed down and then brought it back, doesn't count to me.
Mar 18th 2019
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COMMON (92) vs (94/95)
Mar 18th 2019
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I imagine some people might say Jim Jones
Mar 18th 2019
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Andre 3000
Mar 18th 2019
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Ghostface
Mar 19th 2019
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Hell, the difference between 36 Chambers to Ironman was noticable
Mar 19th 2019
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      You could even notice the difference from 36 Chambers to OB4CL
Mar 19th 2019
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           He first flipped the switch on "Brooklyn Zoo 2"
Mar 20th 2019
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                You could see the progression from Can It All Be So Simple to ...
Mar 20th 2019
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TI
Mar 19th 2019
10
Not a Non-Lyricist, but can we talk about the growth Big Pooh had
Mar 19th 2019
11
good one. LOVE SLEEPERS
Mar 20th 2019
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phife? big jump from the 1st to the 2nd
Mar 20th 2019
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Bun B
Mar 23rd 2019
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Shaun Tha Don
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1. "Lil Wayne"
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And ironically he didn't become a lyricist until he stopped writing after that 10 000 Bars track and had to carry CMR on his back.

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Dj Joey Joe
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5. "Does Ghostwriters Count?"
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Having Gillie Da Kid & Drake writing his rhymes helped a lot for his career.


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dustin
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2. "Rick Ross"
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sweeneykovar
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3. "he dumbed down and then brought it back, doesn't count to me. "
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check his old pre-Hustlin shit. sounds like him now.

  

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4. "COMMON (92) vs (94/95)"
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High Society
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Mon Mar-18-19 07:53 PM

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6. "I imagine some people might say Jim Jones"
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because I see his name used when discussing this topic
though I’ve always felt Jim was underrated as a lyricist.
Since the first time I heard Diplomatic Immunity, the double disc joint,
I thought he was nice.

A perfect example is The First imo. He killed that. Actually as I sit here and write this:
Imo Jim I felt dumbed it down a bit on one of his solo efforts
- not the debut - and then picked the lyricism back up after that one dumbed down album.

Underrated artist and lyricist.

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Dr_Gonzo
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7. "Andre 3000"
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Not like he was ever weak, or even okay, lyrically. But he and Big Boi were good on their first, Dre had a moment or two on ATLiens, but I feel like he really became the monster lyricist we know him as on Aquemini. (I also think that's the album where Big Boi came into his own as far as delivery and flow.)

  

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8. "Ghostface"
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Not that he was a non-lyricist,
but when you listen to 36 chambers & Supreme Clientele
it's almost two different rappers (in terms of lyricism).

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9. "Hell, the difference between 36 Chambers to Ironman was noticable"
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Ghost was basically just yelling all his lyrics on that first album and they were pretty basic with a stilted delivery

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12. "You could even notice the difference from 36 Chambers to OB4CL"
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He was locked in by the time he did the 4th Chamber verse on Liquid Swords

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15. "He first flipped the switch on "Brooklyn Zoo 2""
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Got steadily better starting there.

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16. "You could see the progression from Can It All Be So Simple to ..."
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10. "TI "
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he was cool, but I feel like he got way better lyrically.

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11. "Not a Non-Lyricist, but can we talk about the growth Big Pooh had"
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once LB broke up, homeboy picked it up something serious. I became a legitimate fan.

  

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14. "good one. LOVE SLEEPERS"
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13. "phife? big jump from the 1st to the 2nd"
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17. "Bun B"
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He was basically a sidekick to Pimp C on the first UGK records.

He took a jump on Supertight. Then he became a monster in his own right on Ridin Dirty. His Murder verse was a master class. Pinky Ring too.


>Like we've seen artists like Jay Z and Ice Cube among others
>go from being lyrical beasts into something less so.
>
>But can you think of a rapper who started out as average or
>maybe even conversational and turning into an artist known for
>their lyricism?
>
>I can think of producer / rappers who turned into decent
>rappers over time. But my mind is blank when I try and
>remember a rapper who started out not interested in lyricism
>and turned that deficiency into a strength.

  

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