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"Rakim Reflects On His Life In Hip-Hop And What Happened With Eric B. "


  

          

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There's a good reason why legendary emcee Rakim is known as "The God" among hip-hop fans and disciples.

He was just a teenager when he first came to prominence as one half of the duo Eric B. & Rakim. Their 1987 debut album, Paid in Full, is often cited as a turning point in the golden age of hip-hop, thanks largely to Rakim's approach to lyricism. He raised the genre to new heights with his uniquely stoic flow and his use of a multi-syllabic rhyming structure that was complex, poetic and infused with meaning.

An example of the sheer density of his rhyming style (both structurally and metaphorically) is in the title track from Eric B. & Rakim's second album, Follow The Leader:
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"Everything was kind of organic, man, for me and Eric B. to do what we did," said Rakim on What's Good. "I was 17 ... I was so young it took me a while to figure out how I wanted to approach hip-hop and let the people know how I wanted to get down."

Rakim would complete four albums with Eric B. before their partnership dissolved amid a business disagreement in 1992 (he'll get into that in the interview). After a brief hiatus, he embarked on a solo career in 1997 that resulted in three albums, The 18th Letter, The Master and The Seventh Seal.

Eric B. and Rakim reunited this year for a series of live dates. Though Rakim hasn't released an album of new material in nearly a decade, his influence on hip-hop permeates the genre to this day.

Rakim joined What's Good hosts Stretch and Bobbito to look back on his iconic career, including reflections on his Islamic faith, the dissolution of his duo with Eric B., and the patience it takes to craft the perfect rhyme.
Interview Highlights:

On What Happened Between Him and Eric B:

I can't beat around the bush, because it would sound stupid. We had three more albums left on the contract and Eric B. came up with an idea. He said ... if he'd do a solo joint, I'd do a solo joint, then we get together and do the last joint. Then our contracts would be up, we could negotiate new contracts. Meanwhile, when he'd do the solo joint he'd take all the money for that, when I'd do my solo joint I take all the money for that, get back together new album, new deal. You know, it was money signs. Long story short, Eric B. did his, I signed off and when it was time for me to do mine, he didn't want to sign off. So that caused a lot of problems.

That caused the breakup of Eric B. and Rakim. Again, man, it was business. He felt that if he would have signed for some reason I wasn't going to sign back to the last album. He felt I was going to cut him out for some reason. That was the misunderstanding. I ain't gonna front, man, bitter taste in my mouth for a long time. But like I said, I finally matured on that situation and realized it was bigger than us, so we here right now.

On His Aunt, Singer and Actress Ruth Brown:

My aunt taught me through her actions, man, know what I mean? She let me know what to look out for and things of that nature, and I learned so much just from being her nephew, and watching and being around her, man... She heard my songs, man, and she was real proud of her nephew. She's real sharp with her craft so she was analyzing what I was doing. She'd tell me she heard a certain song and then she'll tell me I remind her of somebody from back in the days, a jazz artist or a certain way that I was rhyming, she'll tell me the time code, know what I mean? She just loved music, whenever she heard good music, she definitely appreciated it, and she was proud of her nephew.

On NFL Players Kneeling in Protest:

Deep down I am who I am, if it's rapping, if it's being a father... I still have the same ideologies on life. So I would've been not only kneeling down, I would have been encouraging my team to take a stand as well. Once I would've started seeing all the turmoil, then of course I would've tried to implement smart ways of bringing consciousness to the situation, man.

I think that's all it is, man. I think with all the craziness that's going on, nobody want to stir the pot, but we gotta make sure that everybody has their justice man, and athletes and musicians and actors, and things of that nature, we have a lot of power. So if we can influence the kids in the neighborhood to stand up, then we should be able to do that no matter what platform it is.





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thanks
Sep 03rd 2018
1
nobody has ever started out as good as he did and so young
Sep 03rd 2018
2
LL Cool J
Sep 03rd 2018
4
      Ra at 16 changed how everybody in rap approached rhymes
Sep 04th 2018
5
      Rakim was 17 when PIF came out
Sep 04th 2018
9
           I was 17 when PIF came out
Sep 05th 2018
14
           I feel you I was just saying there's nobody to really compare him to
Sep 06th 2018
18
                got you
Sep 07th 2018
19
                     The question was whether L was as good as Ra. He wasn’t.
Sep 08th 2018
20
           RE: Rakim was 17 when PIF came out
Sep 06th 2018
17
People really wanted an Eric B. solo album?
Sep 03rd 2018
3
Eric B. really wanted an Eric B. solo album
Sep 04th 2018
6
You're Right He Wanted To Go Solo But Nobody Else Did
Sep 05th 2018
12
      LOL!!!!!
Sep 05th 2018
13
nobody wanted an Eric B. album.
Sep 04th 2018
7
      He's even looking like "I know yall didnt ask for this, but please ...
Sep 04th 2018
8
           he's singing and rapping all over it
Sep 04th 2018
10
           I’m Just Here So I Don’t Get Fired: The Album
Sep 04th 2018
11
                HAHAHAHAHA
Sep 06th 2018
15
DOO DOO on MCs!!!!
Sep 06th 2018
16

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1. "thanks"
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yes

  

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2. "nobody has ever started out as good as he did and so young"
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4. "LL Cool J"
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5. "Ra at 16 changed how everybody in rap approached rhymes"
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So nah.

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9. "Rakim was 17 when PIF came out"
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and some of those rhymes, by his own admission, were a few years old by the time the album came out.

If you can show me a middle schooler writing rhyme dismounts like that, I'd love to see it. And in no way am I shitting on LL because he's always been a monster.

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14. "I was 17 when PIF came out"
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I'm 47 now and Rakim is 50. he may have wrote the rhymes when he was 17, still impressive though


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18. "I feel you I was just saying there's nobody to really compare him to"
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in regards to being that good, that early. Guy literally changed the course of emceeing forever, in a positive way, as a mid-teenager.

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19. "got you"
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but I wasn't talking about changing the game or impact. I was just saying that LL Cool J came out the gate really good, really young

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20. "The question was whether L was as good as Ra. He wasn’t. "
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Nobody has been as good as young as Ra = the claim

Your rebuttal = L

Except L wasn’t as good as Ra when they were 16 or 17. Or any given year up to the present, frankly.

So that’s that.

>but I wasn't talking about changing the game or impact. I was
>just saying that LL Cool J came out the gate really good,
>really young
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17. "RE: Rakim was 17 when PIF came out"
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...I will shit on dude...after this it was a rap for him...corny sell out...

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3. "People really wanted an Eric B. solo album?"
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I just can't see it

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6. "Eric B. really wanted an Eric B. solo album"
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I guess he thought it was make some money? Though I don't know how.

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12. "You're Right He Wanted To Go Solo But Nobody Else Did"
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What's real funny about that solo album, I heard that a young Freddie Foxxx ghostwrote the raps on it, which wouldn't surprise me since he was suppose to be the rapper Eric B. was working with before Rakim; but I know Freddie Foxxx didn't always tell people that cause that's like the kat from Brainsick Mobb who claimed he ghostwrote some of Melachi the Nutcracker's verses on "Livin' Proof", that's nothing to be proud of homie, LOL.

When I first heard about the solo album I thought it was going to be a compilation of other rappers over Eric B.'s production not him rappin' and singing, when I heard the single "I Can't Let You" I thought maybe somebody should've said that to him, so I never listened to the album and I'm glad I dodged that bullet.


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>not him rappin' and singing, when I heard the single "I Can't
>Let You" I thought maybe somebody should've said that to him,
>so I never listened to the album and I'm glad I dodged that
>bullet.
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7. "nobody wanted an Eric B. album."
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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8. "He's even looking like &quot;I know yall didnt ask for this, but please ..."
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I've never heard not one thing off this record ever in life.

After forcing myself to listen "Chinese Arithemetic", and "Eric B Never Scared", I couldnt do it to myself

**I just skimmed through it and, it's about as bad as you thought.
Just him (is that him?) rapping over a bunch of common samples. (Cameo-Candy, Misdemeanor...etc)



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10. "he's singing and rapping all over it"
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most of the beats are basically loops that had made big records already

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11. "I’m Just Here So I Don’t Get Fired: The Album"
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Face lookin hella apologetic.

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I remember seeing the cassette somewhere and just shaking my head.

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this was the best stretch & bob episode yet.. they finally had a pretty relaxed conversation that didnt feel totally rushed.. this was a nice improvement.

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