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mrhood75
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"I'm loving this" new" wave of underground gutter hip-hop shit"


  

          

However, I also gotta admit the sheer volume of it gets overwhelming. Trying to wrap my head around all of these releases can be tough.

I'd been thinking about making this post ever before the Crimeapple & Anklejohn post. Even thought about attaching it to the "new music" or even the Mach-Hommy post.

Regardless, I feel like there's a whole army of artists out there creating grimy shit. There's this whole subculture of artists out there, putting out dozens of EPs/albums/mixtapes anbd collaborating with each other. It seems like it started with Griselda, but I feel like it really began gaining traction with Roc Marci and Ka. And artists like Planet Asia have been revitalizing their careers taking this new approach. So while I'm typing to say it's East Coast-based, these cats are from all over the country.

So, the main artists I'm speaking of:

Of course, there's Westside, Conway, Mach-Hommy.

Also obvious are Roc Marci and Ka.

Then there guys who've been putting out stuff since the early 2010s like Smootvh and Hus Kingpin.

Then you've got MCs and producers

Knowledge the Pirate
Tha God Fahim
DirtyDiggs
Camoflauge Monk
Rozewood
$auce Heist
Jamal Gasol (has two "mixtapes"/EPs produced by OKP Kil)
Big Ghost
Crimeapple
Anklejohn
al.davino
Estee Nack
Vic Spencer
Nowaah the Flood
Chris Crack
Daniel Son
Bozack Morris
Vinyl Villain

So yeah, that's a lot of artists constantly churning out lots of music.

I'll be back in a bit to post some links to some of the songs.

Anyone else can feel free to contribute as well.

And anyone who knows the background of any of these dudes, feel free to share. I'm not having problems finding music, but I am also interested in their backgrounds/stories. And these guys don't do a lot of interviews.

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Whooo! a bunch of guys here I've never heard of.
Aug 20th 2018
1
Straight to consumer cut shiny suits and A&R cornballs out (sorta)
Aug 21st 2018
2
As a former indie rap A&R person...
Sep 03rd 2018
18
out of all the cats listed, who is the one you'd recommend as a MUST LIS...
Aug 21st 2018
3
I'm really feeling Sauce Heist and Jamal Gasol right now
Aug 21st 2018
5
      Also, though I didn't list them, check out Da Buze Bruvaz new album
Aug 21st 2018
6
      funny - I checked Sauce Heist first from the list, that name stood out.
Aug 21st 2018
7
Crimeapple is one of my favorite albums of the year.
Aug 21st 2018
4
You're talking about Aguardiente, right? Yeah, that's really dope.
Aug 22nd 2018
8
Also, if you haven't check all the projects he dropped last year
Aug 22nd 2018
9
      I gotta get to these. Only discovered through Big Ghost.
Aug 24th 2018
11
Normally when OKP talks about gutter hip-hop shit, it's just garbage
Aug 22nd 2018
10
BENNY THE BUTCHER #1
Aug 24th 2018
12
“A friend of ours” is definitely dope
Aug 25th 2018
13
RE: I'm loving this new wave of underground gutter hip-hop shit
Aug 25th 2018
14
Thanks for this.
Aug 25th 2018
15
Here's Five Kats I've Been Into Lately
Aug 26th 2018
16
only three i really know (and love)...
Aug 29th 2018
17
I’ma need these mafuckas to do better with their names though
Sep 03rd 2018
19
Chris Crack is great
Sep 03rd 2018
20
CRIMEAPPLE - Salud y Plata
Sep 06th 2018
21

High Society
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1. "Whooo! a bunch of guys here I've never heard of."
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And you're right - they're not all east coast based.

I'll be in this post when I get some time.

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Orbit_Established
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2. "Straight to consumer cut shiny suits and A&R cornballs out (sorta)"
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Those clowns still exist but you don't NEED them the way
you used to

Corny people legitimately stymied a whole generation of
rappers

  

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18. "As a former indie rap A&R person..."
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...this gives me feelings. lol


>Those clowns still exist but you don't NEED them the way
>you used to
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>Corny people legitimately stymied a whole generation of
>rappers

  

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High Society
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3. "out of all the cats listed, who is the one you'd recommend as a MUST LIS..."
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and does that artist have a particular project you'd say that gotta check out?

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mrhood75
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5. "I'm really feeling Sauce Heist and Jamal Gasol right now"
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Tue Aug-21-18 10:33 PM by mrhood75

  

          

So I guess I'd say to find a way to check out their "Gasol Sauce" EP, which is the two of them produced by DirtyDiggs (who I also listed). Here's the link to the Bandcamp page (I don't know if it's available for streaming elsewhere):

https://iamtrevorlang.bandcamp.com/album/gasol-sauce

The Sauce Heist projects I've heard have also been really dope. I've been bumping both Sauce X Monk EPs (Sauce Heist and Camoflauge Monk) and the WAZA EP.

Here's the Bandcamp page: https://sauceheist.bandcamp.com/

"BENGALBONEMARROW" by Sauce Heist and Al.Davino is also extremely dope.


Now, let's head out to Chicago. Check out Chris Crack's "Being Woke Ain't Fun." I think that's on most streaming service.

Also, I recommended it earlier this year, but it bears repeating since he's in the circle of artists: Vic Spencer and Sonnyjim's "Spencer For Hire" is probably going to end up in my Top 10 for the year.

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6. "Also, though I didn't list them, check out Da Buze Bruvaz new album"
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"N*&&&ativity." Very dope. And gutter and grimy as fuck.

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7. "funny - I checked Sauce Heist first from the list, that name stood out."
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Been on youtube looking around.
Checked for most recent album and found BengalBoneMarrow w/ Al.Divino.

It's okay off first listen. Got to sit with it more.
But love that guys like Ankhlejohn and Crimeapple pop up on the album.

Reminds me of old Wu solos,
Rae and Ghost popping up on Infamous,
Nas popping up on Only Built,
etc. Those were fun times.

Restoring the feeling!

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4. "Crimeapple is one of my favorite albums of the year."
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Just real banging production and Crimeapple is a good lyricist with a REAL DOPE voice.

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mrhood75
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8. "You're talking about Aguardiente, right? Yeah, that's really dope."
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9. "Also, if you haven't check all the projects he dropped last year"
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PERFECT, PERFECT 2, the extended version of Metralleta, and SWEET DREAMS. All are really, really dope.

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11. "I gotta get to these. Only discovered through Big Ghost."
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haven't made it past their collab album yet honestly.

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10. "Normally when OKP talks about gutter hip-hop shit, it's just garbage"
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Roc Marciano, Conway, that other dude that's always mentioned with Conway, etc.

But I gave a listen to the Ankhlejohn and Crimeapple last night after reading this and was pleasantly surprised. I got Action Bronson vibes more than anything else, but I get the Can Ox influence as well.

They stand on their own though. The production was fantastic on both projects (don't remember the album titles off the top of my head, but the most recent album of each), and they're both capable of holding my short attention span over the course of an album, so both get a big thumbs up.

Looking forward to delving into the rest of the list.

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12. "BENNY THE BUTCHER #1"
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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13. "“A friend of ours” is definitely dope"
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Sat Aug-25-18 10:15 AM by mrhood75

  

          

Which of his other EPs/mixtapes/albums do you recommend?

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14. "RE: I'm loving this new wave of underground gutter hip-hop shit"
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Sat Aug-25-18 09:53 AM by melmag

  

          


https://www.complex.com/music/2018/05/underground-rappers-you-should-know/

  

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15. "Thanks for this."
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Knew a good chunk of these, but wasn't up on the others like Dark Lo and Sha Hef.

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16. "Here's Five Kats I've Been Into Lately"
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(1) Al Davino
(2) Estee Nack
(3) Borvoe McMidnite (MC Of The Night)
(4) Flashius Clayton
(5) Epidemic (Hex One & Tek-Nition)

And course we've talked about Noveliss of Clear Soul Forces who's seem to be the only member of the crew still making heat.


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17. "only three i really know (and love)..."
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...from this list are ANKHLEJOHN, al.davino, and Estee Nack.

Ankhlejohn has 4 albums between this year and last that do not leave my rotation, that guy is fucking amazing

i need to check some other cats off this list whose names ring a bell

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19. "I’ma need these mafuckas to do better with their names though"
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20. "Chris Crack is great"
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I highly recommend Tree too.

  

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21. "CRIMEAPPLE - Salud y Plata "
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2018 EP produced by I believe a gentleman by the name of Cuns.
It's got some live instrumentation on it that I'm feeling.
It's not as grimy as his last project, Aguardiente.
CRIMEAPPLE has a real dope voice to me.

It's on the streaming services.

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