The Black Keys reached a point where their songs were in beer commercials and in video games. Beck is obviously a bigger Artist, but a couple of those Black Keys songs cracked the zeitgeist and were more ubiquitous in a way
20. "I think I'm biased against The Black Keys because I don't like their mus..." In response to Reply # 14
So that may be why I don't think The Black Keys are that famous outside of their big songs whereas I was impressionable when Odelay and Midnight Vultures had a number of hits, although smaller ones than the songs from The Black Keys that caught on.
21. "Did you mean 'at the time of the concert' when you made your post?" In response to Reply # 16
Yeah, at that time The Black Keys were more popular than Beck. I was going off of the impact of both acts' career but definitely by that time of the concert you saw The Black Keys were everywhere.
29. "nah I meant in general " In response to Reply # 21
At the time that I went to the concert, Black Keys weren't big. They were opening as the first act on the bill, the sun was still out, and the place was half-empty.
As of a few years ago, the Black Keys were headlining arenas. Beck hasn't done that in years (or ever?).
And I say that as someone who is absolutely a huge Beck fan and doesn't really listen to the Black Keys.
30. "I didn't realize this" In response to Reply # 29 Sun Mar-25-18 08:19 PM by obsidianchrysalis
>As of a few years ago, the Black Keys were headlining arenas. >Beck hasn't done that in years (or ever?). >
Maybe my perception is foggy since I came up as a music fan in the 90's when Odelay was big and Beck was a young star in the alternative scene. I wasn't big into the alternative scene in the 90's but I knew of Beck and just assumed he was really famous in the general public because MTV always seemed to play his videos.
Since I wasn't big into the indie scene but like in Beck's case I knew The Black Keys were popular, The Black Keys took up as much mental real estate as Beck which is why I thought they were at the same level of fame.
But outside of Where It's At, Loser, and maybe the New Pollution, I can't say that Beck's catalog is filled with radio hits. The Black Keys do have more hits over their run.
32. "Beck's got a sort of critical fame that is maybe..." In response to Reply # 30
...not a possible thing to attain today (or at least to the level that he achieved it and has maintained it).
Like, look, he's obviously big enough that the Recording Academy gave him the Album of the Year a couple years ago, in a move that everyone can probably agree is their "we have overlooked you for years so here's your recognition" play.
But yeah, like you said, he hasn't had many radio hits. He's not loved by the masses, but rather loved by the right tastemakers to ensure that he will forever be part of the conversation.
50. "I'm biased since Beck is one of my favorite artists but dude was" In response to Reply # 32
HUGE in the mid 90's!
Magazine covers. Grammy awards constantly featured on MTV and other music stations.
I can't off hand name a song by the black keys, alhtough I've probably heard a song of theirs in an ad or movie or something, but in terms of them being recognizable to random people I have to believe Beck is more well known
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38. "I get it-BKs were so off radar their label head had never heard of them" In response to Reply # 1
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2. "Do co-headliners count?" In response to Reply # 0
I mean, in 2006 I saw the Roots co-headline (but perform before) Gym Class Heroes (I left before they hit the stage). Come to think of it, a few years prior to that I saw the Roots open for 311. Rap-rock didn't last, who woulda thunk???
Saw Incubus co-headline (but possibly with a shorter set) before Deftones back in like 2000. Crazy thing is I saw them both 15 years later together, in an arena instead of a little theater, and the order had flip flopped.
3. "Not opening up, but N.E.R.D. brought Kanye out to perform Through" In response to Reply # 0
The Wire at Central Park Summerstage in the summer of 2003.
- Esperanza Spalding playing in Donald Harrison's band (with Christian Scott) on one of the side stages at the Newport Jazz Festival in 2007, about 6 months before she blew up.
The Chula Vista show had outkast as the closer,not sure about the LA show. I was going to go to the LA show cause I lived about 10 minutes from universal at that time but had a work function ended up driving to Chula Vista the following day
19. "RE: OutKast opening for Lauryn Hill" In response to Reply # 9 Fri Mar-23-18 04:08 PM by howardlloyd
outkast never had an album as successful as miseducation
they went "diamond" but only cuz it was a two for one i.e. 5 million copies. and i know counting international sales lauryn killed even outkast 2x figures
26. "I never mentioned fame either but ok" In response to Reply # 25
I am not sure if Kast is more popular or not to be honest with you. But I think people would rather pay for a Kast show than a Lauryn show at this point, that's why they went on a festival headlining spree a few years back.
11. "Saw Jay-Z curtain-jerk for Method Man, OC, and Mic Geronimo" In response to Reply # 0
Told this story before here. It was at Penn Relays in 1995.
Then the next year he was the second act on the bill. Opened for the Fugees, The Lost Boyz, and the Boot Camp Click.
Also, saw Kid Rock curtain-jerk for Ice Cube, Too Short, Yo-Yo, and Dangerous Dame. He was also the absolute first person that went on, even before the even smaller other local acts that I'm forgetting.
Actually, since it was in Oakland, Ice Cube went on before Too Short, even though nationally he was the bigger star.
15. "i don't know if this counts but" In response to Reply # 0
They did Eric b and Rakim greasy but letting them go on AFTER public enemy in PE's heyday on that Def Jam tour back in the day...I think i was 14 when Nation Of Millions dropped. That was back when they played half that album on daytime radio. The Def Jam tour came to philly. My big sister took me to see it at the Spectrum. I was soo excited.
Biz opened. BDP, slick Rick, and a few others was on it. PE was the real headliner back then. They tore it down. Eric B. and Rakim actually went on after them...to a crowd of crickets. My sister wanted to beat the traffic and leave, but that was a bad idea because everybody was leaving at the SAME TIME.
a shame remembering a frustrated Rakim spit his heart out at that show, while today we hail him the God.
51. "oh you KNOW that's comin" In response to Reply # 42
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35. "I saw Ursher open for Janet Jackson" In response to Reply # 0
I also saw dark haired ball cap glasses wearing Eminem open on a Soundbombing tour show (might not have been called soundbombing, but he sure as hell went on to be more famous than errybody in the function that day.)
40. "RE: I saw Ursher open for Janet Jackson" In response to Reply # 35
Was that the Lyricists Lounge tour in 1998? I saw Eminem on that, I think he was like second on the bill. "Just Don't Give A Fuck" was out as a single, Slim Shady LP hadn't dropped yet.
Hell, just for fun I dug up something I wrote about it back in the day.
Saw The Alkaholics, De La and Tribe right after Midnight Marauders dropped. Just knew we were gonna get "Buddy" or at least Trugoy on the "Award Tour" hook...nope....smh
56. "RE: /hmmm...no trugoy on award tour chorus? " In response to Reply # 46
Tribe headlined.
It was the night of a Holyfield fight (dont ask me which one, lol)
Tribe opened with "Award Tour", and right before the beat dropped and they took the stage, Tip yelled out "Holyfieeeellllld wooooonnn!!!!!!" and I just knew Trugoy would come back out and do the hook...nope.
48. "the college I went to always had the rap acts go on first" In response to Reply # 0
so I saw The Roots "open" for The Mighty Might Boss-tones right when Illadelph Halflife was being released and I saw KRS-One "open" for G Love and Special Sauce....oh, and the Fugees "opened" for Buffalo Tom or something stupid like that...but Lauryn Hill fainted 3 songs into their set so wasn't much of a show.
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52. "hahahahaha that's us all day" In response to Reply # 0
Fugees Big Erykah Jill Macy BEP Gaga Kanye Kendrick
we are the KANGS of this category
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57. "RE: I saw Kanye open up for Usher...." In response to Reply # 0
BEP opening for mark morrison and keith sweat
J cole opening for Wale
Tyga opened for us and gym class heroes
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59. "RE: I saw Kanye open up for Usher...." In response to Reply # 57
I may be the oldest person to ever post on this board( based on the other answers to the question), but i saw Prince open for Rick James, and on that night, Rick James won.
61. "RE: Early 80's Rick James should have won a whole lot of nights against" In response to Reply # 60
>Prince > >easily Yeah, Prince was really good as a newcomer, but Rick James at that time was next level. I'm sure watching Rick every night helped Prince advance rather quickly.
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