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"Poll question: Tetsuo & Youth vs The Impossible Kid"
Sat Dec-23-17 11:13 AM by Anonymous

  

          

Two of my favorite, and in my opinion best, hip-hop albums released in the past 5 years.

Lyrical dense.

Cohesive.

Well produced.

Great examples of an MC doing what the fuck they want and executing.

Which one do you think is better?

Discuss both...

GO!

Poll result (21 votes)
Lupe (11 votes)Vote
Aesop (10 votes)Vote

  

  

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Slight egde to The Impossible Kid
Dec 23rd 2017
1
Which hooks?
Dec 23rd 2017
2
      RE: Which hooks?
Dec 23rd 2017
3
           Two things...
Dec 23rd 2017
4
                RE: Two things...
Dec 23rd 2017
6
                     Yeah...because no hook on this album is bad
Dec 24th 2017
7
                          The hooks I named are bad to me
Dec 24th 2017
8
                               It’s cool if you don’t like them...I disagree with your description
Dec 26th 2017
9
                                    It’s corny white radio singing
Dec 28th 2017
10
                                         Nah cuz I don’t listen to the radio so that doesn’t help
Dec 28th 2017
11
props to aesop
Dec 23rd 2017
5
this is just such an unbelievably wrong comment
Jan 09th 2018
24
      wow you went in lmao
Jan 17th 2018
28
To be embarrassingly cliche: I.K.was good. T&Y much, much more soulful.
Dec 28th 2017
12
Don't get it twisted tho...NOT shitting on I.K. Great record. IJS.
Dec 28th 2017
13
So you say T&Y is soulful and Nick says it’s corny white radio shit
Dec 28th 2017
14
      Yeah, soulful shit makes for better radio listening. Not my point, thoug...
Jan 07th 2018
16
Slight edge to Lupe
Dec 28th 2017
15
Never got past Mural...tryin again now
Jan 08th 2018
17
?
Jan 08th 2018
18
      Mural was too good & the next few songs couldn't compete so I slept
Jan 08th 2018
19
relevant:
Jan 08th 2018
20
That's just Lupe being Lupe. A solid nigga with a good ear.
Jan 08th 2018
21
He's been crushing on Aesop for about a year now
Jan 08th 2018
22
Dope
Jan 09th 2018
23
RE: relevant:
Jan 09th 2018
25
I guess he's still lurking.....
Jan 10th 2018
26
Tetsuo & Youth gets my vote, but i don't blame any1 who chooses IK
Jan 16th 2018
27

Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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1. "Slight egde to The Impossible Kid"
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Sat Dec-23-17 03:39 PM by Nick Has a Problem..

  

          

Both albums were great but Lupe's bad taste in rock showed up on some of those corny hooks. Tetsuo is long as hell too. Like 30 mins longer than The Impossible Kid. Kind of a chore to get through sometimes. Aesop kept it tight and brief. Plus his skills as a producer has gotten better.

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2. "Which hooks?"
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>Lupe's bad taste in rock showed up
>on some of those corny hooks.

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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3. "RE: Which hooks?"
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Just my opinion but Lu is as bad as Em with the singing hooks. Blur my hands, dots & lines, prisoner, no scratches is all I can remember off top

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4. "Two things..."
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1 he is nowhere near s bad as Eminem...no one is

2 your comment on his “rock whatever” didn’t seem to apply since nothing about those hooks are rock-based.

  

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6. "RE: Two things..."
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>1 he is nowhere near s bad as Eminem...no one is
>

Agree to disagree. Lupe's hook game is weak imo. It wasn't as bad on this album as it was on the previous two.

>2 your comment on his “rock whatever” didn’t seem to
>apply since nothing about those hooks are rock-based.

Not heavy rock. More like top 40 pop rock. Lu always been on that "my favorite songs aren't rap songs" tip.

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7. "Yeah...because no hook on this album is bad"
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Nor do they sound “rockish” at all.

I know it’s cool to jump on him for hooks because of his past albums but this makes it seem like you haven’t heard the album more than once.

Prisoners?

Come on bro

  

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8. "The hooks I named are bad to me "
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The album is dope. I’ve said that already. One of my favorite albums of 2015. If you like the hooks cool. I don’t. The hooks aren’t hip hop. Sounds like top 40 radio shit to me.

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9. "It’s cool if you don’t like them...I disagree with your description"
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First they’re rock now too 40...just seems like a cliche thing to hate on Lupe for when in this case it’s a bit off.

  

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10. "It’s corny white radio singing"
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That description work for you?

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11. "Nah cuz I don’t listen to the radio so that doesn’t help"
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Still sounds like cliche hate gone wrong bro.

You’re usually right but in this case you’re wrong.

  

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5. "props to aesop"
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for making a song about his cat lol

but Lupe all day, I did enjoy F&L2 but T&Y was the one I was waiting on, the opening of "Dots & Lines" reminded me of DJ Quik's skit off The Book of David about the banjo

but nah, Lupe had too many tracks that I could relate too, Impossible Kid is something im playing out of boredom or a change of pace, it was cool but I'm not reaching for that, didn't have replay value for me

really, Impossible Kid is like any RTJ album for me, it's solid hip-hop, great production/lyrics but nothing I'm seriously hitting rewind on

I'd say T&Y is the art piece of rap and Impossible Kid is textbook underground

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24. "this is just such an unbelievably wrong comment"
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>Impossible Kid is
>textbook underground

nothing about it is 'textbook', from the:

subject matter (songs about having a goth brother and a little league coach killing a gopher, your cat, seeing a psychiatrist, feeling old around trendy looking kids working at a juice shop, etc)

flow and rhyme style (aesop opening up his style to writing sometimes very direct and to the point but also many dense/abstract parts, really only a select few rappers can pull off that blend of direct and abstract, lupe being one of them)

instrumentals (combinations of live instrumentation, samples, synths, and breaks, sampling and working with the band Grimace Federation, there's a blend between boom bap, analog darkwave synth stuff, and even sorta prog-rock)

fine if it doesn't connect with you like lupe, but to say anything about it is textbook is absurd.

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28. "wow you went in lmao"
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I didn't say that as a knock, phrases have more than one meaning

and last time I checked underground was always the place for nonconventional subject matter

he's not talking about cars, clothes, and ho's, textbook underground

yall clowns need to learn to ask questions before yall jump out the window on people lol



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12. "To be embarrassingly cliche: I.K.was good. T&Y much, much more soulful. "
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Impossible Kid was a lot of good rapping and some cool
beats.

T&Y was some soulful shit, tho

Respect both records for sure, but T&Y another whole
level

  

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13. "Don't get it twisted tho...NOT shitting on I.K. Great record. IJS. "
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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




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14. "So you say T&Y is soulful and Nick says it’s corny white radio shit"
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Interesting

  

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16. "Yeah, soulful shit makes for better radio listening. Not my point, thoug..."
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>Interesting


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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15. "Slight edge to Lupe"
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Both were top 3 to 5 in the years they were released. Giving Lupe the edge because of lyrics and concepts, which is weird to write, because Aesop Rock is top notch at both. And was on Impossible Kid, too. I just feel like Lupe was just a bit better.

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17. "Never got past Mural...tryin again now"
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18. "?"
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19. "Mural was too good & the next few songs couldn't compete so I slept"
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Never been a big Lupe fan so figured Mural might've just been an exceptionally great exception

Just gave T&S another shot...it picks up again w/ Prisoners 2 & the rest is really good too

Didn't like his earlier stuff much as it seemed kinda cookie cutter but maybe those were just the singles...gonna dive into his early mixtapes now just in case

  

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20. "relevant: "
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https://twitter.com/LupeFiasco/status/950037897658343424

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21. "That's just Lupe being Lupe. A solid nigga with a good ear. "
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n/m

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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22. "He's been crushing on Aesop for about a year now"
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Not surprised by that tweet

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23. "Dope"
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25. "RE: relevant: "
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Brother has good taste...Not many seeing Aesop over the last 5-8 years...

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26. "I guess he's still lurking....."
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but quality recognizes quality I guess.

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27. "Tetsuo & Youth gets my vote, but i don't blame any1 who chooses IK"
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